Fundies gone wild: reaction to Vermont, Iowa, DC

Facebook having issues so I'm coming over here....

Seriously.  I am trying to wrap my brain around such utter nonsense trying to understand what their purpose is in life.  Is there NOTHING better they can do with their time?  No more worthy causes to take up?    And who (and for how much longer) can afford to keep pumping them millions of dollars... since he brought up the subject of wealthy.

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by: konagod @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 14:54:59 PM CDT

No.

Fred Clark of slacktivist has been deconstructing their motives for awhile. The problem is two-fold. One, they're fundies so they literally have nothing to do according to their religion but wait for Jesus to show up. Until then, their only duty is to show that they aren't on the side of the devil or the anti-christ and that basically means mobilizing against groups your pastor hates and who the pastor thinks you can get away with openly hating in public rather than private.

Secondly, opposing the gays is important for their more crucial goal which is trying to re-control sex in the hopes that it will give them more control over their wives and children and they can more easily treat them like property against the hard grain of time. If they can rule sex and self-knowledge as bad they can retain worshippers fully believing that they're natural sexual appetites are somehow morally repugnant and thus remove their entire crop of quiet little children to molest thus forcing them to get real jobs with no perks.

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by: Cerberus @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:51:41 PM CDT

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see, that's a REAL agenda

Our crappy "plan" to destroy the "natural" family? Pfft, it's nothing compared to subjugation of half the population.

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by: Lane @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:04:25 PM CDT

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Democracy in action

Man, how long ago was it that the right-wingnuts were complaining that it was up to the LEGISLATURES - THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, not the courts, to make decisions like the one made in Vermont? Seems like only yesterday. Sunrise, sunset. Sunrise, sunset...

But I digress.

Now that legislatures across the country are beginning to get on board with us, by either passing laws in our favor or PREVENTING amendments from being voted on (like in Iowa), all of a sudden, it's THE PEOPLE who must decide directly - not those rogue, freedom-hating, anti-family legislators who HATE marriage (I never got that last part. Aren't most of them straight and married?)

Weren't these wingnuts always telling us that if we didn't like the laws, we should do the democratic thing and get people who support our cause elected (yeah, right! snicker, snicker)?

Seems to me, if the wingnuts don't like the laws their legislators are passing (or not passing), then they should vote them OUT of office.

Granted, that might be a bit more difficult now that a lot of people are probably thinking, "Yeah, sure, you support gay people having equal rights. Go crazy. Give 'em whatever they want. Whatever. Where are my unemployment checks and where will my family and I be sleeping tonight?"

I'll bet the people in Ohio and Michigan, two states that have lost more jobs in the last 8 years than any other two states in the union, are thinking, "Well, we have no food. Our insurance runs out at the end of the month. And we'll probably lose our house within 6 months. But thank GOD we banned same-sex marriage. Look how strong are families are! Oh dear. Bobby, slap grandmummy on the face. She seems to have passed out again from malnutrition."

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by: stojef @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:10:06 PM CDT

It's the push for mob rule.

They know they won't be able to scare up a majority on most of their panic-button issues for much longer; they're making a frantic push to establish "democracy = mob rule" in as many legal precedents as possible.  Where they can, they're also pushing to make it more difficult for tomorrow's majority (or legislature, or courts, etc.) to overrule today's theocratic mobs.

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by: M @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:44:22 PM CDT

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This is the importance of the Prop H8 ruling,

  If the California Supreme Court let Prop H8 stand, it will be a green light for mob rule.

 But also if you look at what took place as well, taking a person's constitutional right away by mob rule leaves every minority, not just Teh Gays to be subject to what the majority thinks.

 When people feel it doesn't matter to them, other people's rights will disappear until they come after them and there is no longer anyone to stand up for them.  

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:34:12 PM CDT

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In a perverse and bitter way, I look forward to it

We'll see how well the shoe fits on the other foot when suddenly people can be fired, kicked out of their houses, have their children be taken away, and their families dissolved because of their religious lifestyle choice.

In all seriousness, it's a fucking tragedy that such a thing could be possible at all.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

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by: Keori @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:42:45 PM CDT

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They're counting on liberals for this sick game

They're assuming and sadly rightly so, that liberals actually believe in the rule of law and protecting the minority so that when they finally do fade into that minority, liberals will vote en masse to protect them from the very authoritarianism punishment laws they tried to foster on every single other minority group when they were riding high.

Sadly, they're right. Damn us for actually having a consistent value system.

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by: Cerberus @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:55:38 PM CDT

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If the right is pushing for "mob rule"

then they might find out it is not to their liking.

The "mob" for the most part spends far far more time thinking about things other than GLBTs. Other things such as bankers and their humongous bailouts for one.

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by: rfloh @ Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 01:29:42 AM CDT

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hmmmm

"The vote today by the D.C. City Council was a direct affront to the federal Defense of Marriage Act. The radical Left wants to destroy the traditional union of one man and one woman across the country and they will not rest until they do so.

Well, I'll be damned, I agree with Tony on something. . .he's right We Will Not Rest!

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by: ggw59 @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:12:18 PM CDT

backlash

Just as the right wing racial bigots were no doubt enraged & aghast at the election in November and can be counted upon to spread venom and plot havoc in the months and years to come, so the "traditional marriage" obsessed  can be expected to go berserk now.  Oh for the good old days when the Bishop was only concerned for the Duke & Duchesses' wedding.  Peasants could just say between themselves "we are one" and nobody gave a @#%&%.

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by: Passionforprog @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:13:34 PM CDT

religious intolerance, anyone?

Poor Mr. Perkins.  

Does he forget about the horrible pain he felt following the passage of Prop 8 when citizens that believe in liberty and constitutional principles and the separation of church and state voiced their indignation regarding the passage of an amendment that targets a minority group?

He cried crocodile tears of religious intolerance a few months ago when people voiced resistance to the relgious bigotry at the ballot box - even after he got his way.

He just wants to be a victim no matter how the cards are dealt.  He doesn't have any legitimate position whatever when it comes to American ideals.  He only has his religious zealotry to wield as a weapon of supremacy against those who refuse to accept his Christian fascism.

Mr. Perkins doesn't like to be criticized or have his positions analyzed and when his false theory of supriority is riddled with holes and sunlight shines inside his dark and bigoted soul he can only scream out in agony...like the demons leaving a possessed child in a hollywood horror film

Scream away, Mr. Perkins...scream away....the power of christ compells you...

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by: Patrick @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:21:24 PM CDT

I'd love to know

what weird psychological tic in these people makes them groove on the belief that they're persecuted victims.  Can anyone with a psychological background offer some insight?

Absent a sound, scientific explanation, I'll restate what I've conjectured several times before:  These people derive their worldview and their sense of self from old Hollywood movies.  Being persecuted is a romantic and exciting thing to be.  (And what's more, it sells!)  So they constantly peddle the weird notion that they're being persecuted, just like Frederic March and Elissa Landi in The Sign of the Cross, like Richard Burton and Jean Simmons in The Robe, like Victor Mature in Demetrius and the Gladiators, like Robert Taylor and Deborah Kerr in Quo Vadis, like Paul Newman in The Silver Chalice, and on and on, at ludicrous length.

Believing in the movies' make-believe is a lot more fun, and a lot easier, than dealing with complex reality.  And so cavemen coexisted with dinosaurs, Native Americans are all bloodthirsty savages, Asians are shiftless sneaky villains, black people are tap-dancing shuffling imbeciles, gay men are all either pansies or psychos (or both), lesbians are icepick-wielding lunatics, trans people are seriously disturbed psychos, and yes, Christians are all persecuted.  How to penetrate that kind of infantile world view is completely beyond me.


I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights.  -Archbishop Desmond Tutu

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by: QScribe @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:13:19 PM CDT

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Secretly, we all want to be victims ...

As much as people say that they'd prefer to be empowered, well-adjusted individuals, I don't buy it.  Just put the representatives of any two oppressed minority groups together in a room, and ask them which group is more persecuted and victimized.  I believe that 99% of the time, each would try to top the other to claim the prize of Biggest Victim Ever.

The problem with the persecution and victimization of Christians is that no one is trying to take anyone's Christianity away from them.  All anyone is saying is that you can't force the rest of the world to be as Christian as you are, and apparently that's enough for some of them to claim victimhood.

But it's a natural stance for any of us to cling to, especially when you just got news you didn't like and someone tells you it's because the world is out to get you.  Who doesn't love that?

"There are two kinds of people in this world -- the kind who separate the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't."  -- Gloria Steinem

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by: red7eric @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:37:54 PM CDT

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lay psych theory

How about a BS in Psych (never intended to use it professionally) and years on the couch myself? We derive sense of self and worldview first from family. Maybe later, Hollywood becomes our frame of reference. A diva (Bette Davis), or an over-the-top dance number (Gene & Cyd), or one lovely, vulnerable young girl singing "Over the Rainbow" touches us, and it's a brand new world. But first, it's just Mom and Dad and Freud.

In a dysfunctional family (my admitted bias is that they are all from subtly or overtly dysfunctional/ abusive families), absent unconditional love and interpersonal affirmation, individuals will often turn to externals to build the self. Our appearance in comparison to others - our status - can become central to our identity. Throw in a belief system of one kind or another, religion or class for example, or in my house, racism and sexism, and there is now a prescribed, formal structure for defining our reality and our value. "Thank goodness! I thought I was worthless, but there are scads of people I'm superior to. I must be worth something!"

But when the inferior people have the effrontery to speak up, to assert that they are actually equal, well, meltdown ensues.  Our value, our worldview is inextricably linked with their inferiority.  They aren't just asking for their civil, human rights.  They are flouting our belief system; they are taking away our value by asserting their own.  This dissent is a profound, direct, and immediate threat on many levels.

A black & white religious doctrine of fanciful magic and supposedly clear rules and judgments is much easier to manage than taking personal responsibility for one's thoughts in a world of shades of gray - or worse, a world of gaily-colored rainbows.  That's the rub - it is easier to point to a book and say, "I didn't say this, God did," and smugly, falsely avoid responsibility for one's attitudes, perceptions, educational process, actions, and their consequences.

This scenario sets up the oppressor as the victim, since their perception is that they are being attacked, and attacked first.  Throw in a little Hannity/ Beck/ Limbaugh egging-on nonsense about "Christmas under siege!" or "Christian values being removed from our schools," and they're ready to play "Persecution Queen for a Day."  "You're persecuting us just like in Roman times. You people, you won't let us believe in our faith with your accursed logic and human dignity.  Boo hoo!"

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by: 555catnap @ Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 00:46:26 AM CDT

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Cover your keyboards! More freepers Madness!

I await the volcanoes, the tsunamis, the hurricanes and hopefully, the destruction of Vt and its pacifist secular socialism by the Lord. I actually do want it to happen with good Americans being protected as we see in the OT, when God protects believers that do good and trust the Lord. Since VT doesn't seem to believe in the Biblical God or His standards, perhaps a nice lesson in humility would be a nice taste of God's wrath. Oh I know, that is sooooo cruel.

Homosexuals like to target beautiful areas and states to infect them with their agenda to force the abhorrent lifestyle upon the unsuspecting, though often liberal-tending, population.

It is going on all over the country. Right here in Arkansas, one of the most beautiful vacation get-away towns of Eureka Springs has been overrun by homosexuals who have taken over the government and now are issuing "marriage licenses" to homo couples. I have sworn off going there and supporting the town since that move. I really miss it, as they have a wonderful production of the Passion Play...

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by: kevinchi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:23:39 PM CDT

Passion Play

Yeah, let's ditch that.  This homo doesn't like going there because of that bad vibe.

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by: konagod @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:29:46 PM CDT

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Wrath of Kahn

I await the volcanoes, the tsunamis, the hurricanes and hopefully, the destruction of Vt

Just like God smited MA... what? MA is still standing but... wha?

Shouldn't they be pleased we are hastening the Rapture?

watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka

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by: belfrieboi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:52:24 PM CDT

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But do you think

they'll abandon their imbecilic world view when none of the states that have legal SSM (and none that will) sinks into the bowels of the earth?  Fat chance.  Facing reality is simply not something they're capable of.

I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights.  -Archbishop Desmond Tutu

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by: QScribe @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:17:23 PM CDT

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Reality is

a genre of television.

watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka

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by: belfrieboi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:25:11 PM CDT

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If history is any guide

and if social psychologists are at all correct about cognitive dissonance theory, they won't change their worldview, but they will find a way to give themselves credit for preventing all the disasters they foretold.

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by: ebohlman @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:03:32 PM CDT

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Not only are we still standing here in Massachusetts...

...but the Red Sox won their home opener!

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by: Lane @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:19:03 PM CDT

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Let's review

Volcanos erupting recently: Mt. Redoubt deep in Palinland.

Earthquakes: NIMBY, but in the Pope's neighborhood.

Maybe the fundies will get lucky and it will be a nasty year in Vermont for mosquitoes or something.  

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:31:26 PM CDT

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And

the ocean will have to rise well over Floriduh before it starts to threaten the Green Mountain State with tsunamis.  One of those "be careful what you wish for" items, perhaps?

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by: Rae @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:25:01 PM CDT

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Earthquakes?

This same crap has been going on for hundreds of years. The fundies once blamed Ben Franklin for earthquakes spawned by his lightning rods.

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com

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by: davidhart @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:43:30 PM CDT

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I did not know that.

I had no idea that Franklin's invention of electricity* was blamed for earthquakes.

*It's a joke -- many people actually think he did invent electricity, rather than "discover" it.

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by: Lane @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:21:55 PM CDT

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Odd

One would think they would blame him for lightning....

There was an episode of living single where one of the women (Can't remember the characters name) says "Well actually the word invent comes from the latin Invitir (not sure if I got that right) which means 'to discover.' So, technically, I'm right."

watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka

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by: belfrieboi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:29:32 PM CDT

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The only thing I see is...

Churches being torn up by weather events.  Also a church in Italy was crushed because of the earthquake there.  I guess they just don't see God's warnings.

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by: Wes @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:51:31 PM CDT

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Good God, Tony

Go get yourself the usual manicure and pedicure, facial, and your eyebrows plucked, and you'll feel much better.

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by: bluegrassfool @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:24:12 PM CDT

Hahahaha!

I like Mr. Savage's clarification of what makes him sick,

"When I see two women kissing each other... on the lips... as lovers... I wanna vomit."

I guess he prefers two women kissing each other elsewhere on the anatomy as pornstars.

LOL!

And did he say "puffy" white males?  

watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka

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by: belfrieboi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:49:06 PM CDT

LOL. That' "puffy white males"

ruined another keyboard of mine. Is he saying he actually likes black guys? Latinos? How about...a Blatino?

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by: kevinchi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:52:07 PM CDT

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I think he means Rick Warren and T.D. Jakes.

Oops!  Looks like Mike spilled the beans.

I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights.  -Archbishop Desmond Tutu

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by: QScribe @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:19:23 PM CDT

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OMG, Rick Warren is TOO "puffy"

Now TD Jakes might be to his liking.

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by: kevinchi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:23:12 PM CDT

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He might be a chubby-chaser.

Though I think most chubby-chasers have better taste than Rick Warren. I certainly do! Give me Rik Waller any day...

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Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.

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by: tavdy79 @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:30:36 PM CDT

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Billy Mays

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by: GraciesDaddy @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:41:38 PM CDT

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...and you just know

that he'd be loud as hell in the sack.

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by: M @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 20:23:10 PM CDT

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Chubby-Chasers

>sings<
I like big bears and I cannot lie
you other brothers can't deny
when a man walks in
with a nice full waist
and that round thing in yo face
I get sprung...

um, sorry what?

watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka

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by: belfrieboi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:26:58 PM CDT

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You may not want to know this

but I gather there is pretty good reason to believe that Savage is a self-loathing closeted gay.  Even (vomit) pictures are rumored to exist from his younger days.

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by: onthesea @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:03:55 PM CDT

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oh, yeah

the Allen Ginsberg thing!

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by: kevinchi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:07:38 PM CDT

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Michael "Shallow Hal" Weiner

Like most fat white gay men, Michael Weiner doesn't like "fatties".

And apparently he likes him some shockolatte.

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by: bluegrassfool @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:18:47 PM CDT

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the sky was falling all day yesterday!

There was some mean precipitation out there!

God was punishing us with his omnipitent knowledge that Vermont would succomb to the wicked, wizardly ways of them homosexualists today -- or was he crying? I'm so confused.  

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by: RyansTake @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 15:53:34 PM CDT

April showers

bring May wedding bouquets??

They were happy tears, btw.

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:33:26 PM CDT

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What About

the snowstorm we had here in Ontario yesterday? Oh that's right, we've had same sex marriage for years now. Oh well, I guess God is not too mad at us if all we get is snow in April.

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by: Fiona @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:03:11 PM CDT

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We're supposed to get snow tonight

and probably upper NH and VT too.

Let's consider it God's way of throwing rice at all the happy couples!

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:08:45 PM CDT

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Must add the rantings of wingnuts from our state too...

From AP...

ATHENS, Ga. -- Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich says that a recent Iowa Supreme Court ruling legalizing gay marriage is "outrageously wrong."

Gingrich spoke Tuesday at the University of Georgia's law school, where he's been teaching a series on the judicial system.

Gingrich says that he was astonished by last Friday's decision in the heartland state, and predicts a major battle over judicial power. He says the decision demonstrated "judicial arrogance."

Gingrich is mentioned as a possible Republican presidential contender in 2012. He said Tuesday that any decision on a run was a year away. In the meantime, he's been keeping a high profile advising Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Can someone please take the Newt aside and tell him he has already had his 15 minutes of fame and to GO AWAY!

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by: Will St. James @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:41:03 PM CDT

Scooped!

I was running over here with this...

If I find a full text or video, will link. With Palin thrown under the bus and Newt looking like the 2012 GOP early fave, this lil speech of his should be interesting.

Any word yet from any other potential 2012 GOPs?

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:50:04 PM CDT

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Gingrich is on the thinnest ice

as as a BIG puffy white whale..I mean male..he is going to break that ice.

Was it judicial activism that allowed him to divorce not once, but twice??

TWICE?!??!  And then he peed in gawds eye by getting hitched a THIRD time!!!  

This puffy white guy knows all about flouting gawds law.  He does it for a living.

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by: Patrick @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:30:05 PM CDT

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Wrong Bam-Bam!

Barber states, what with both the Oval Office and Congress inhabited by "people who are bent on thumbing their nose at God."

They and the vast majority of Americans are bent on thumbing their noses at you, Peter, Tony, and the rest of the fundanazis!

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by: Jon Michaels @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 16:43:41 PM CDT

Poor God

He can dish it out--what with the smiting and all--but He can't take it!

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

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by: Sportin' Life @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:08:37 PM CDT

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Isn't God a Big Boy now?

I mean does he really need Daddy to watch out for him and protect him from things he doesn't like? He's over 2000 years old on his youngest side, had a bit of time to mature, surely he doesn't need the fundies to protect him from everything that might offend him. He's a Big Boy now and if he doesn't like something, he can pull up his Big Boy pants and tell us himself rather than relying on Daddy to protect him.

So get a new line of work, as the Iowa Majority Leader said, "you've already lost", right now we're just jump-starting the "waiting you all to die" process so we can move on already.

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by: Cerberus @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:03:54 PM CDT

Perkins needs to study up

The vote today by the D.C. City Council was a direct affront to the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

Actually, DOMA states that no state is REQUIRED to recognize same-sex marriages from other states as legal in their state. It says nothing about states electing to recognize these marriages.

You think that would be the one law he would know by heart.

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by: Corey S @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:06:58 PM CDT

There's this "full faith and credit" thingie in the Constitution...

Remember what FDR said, "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it." Have you written/called a congress-critter today? 8.25, 6.21

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by: Jacques @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:46:37 PM CDT

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Loophole

Since DC's not a state, DOMA doesnt' apply.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

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by: Daimeon @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:52:28 PM CDT

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Loophole 2

The other sentence after the Full Faith and Credit Clause says Congress regulates such things between the states--hence DOMA has a constitutional leg to stand on, sadly.

"More than half of modern culture depends on what one shouldn't read." -- Oscar Wilde, The Importance of Being Earnest

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by: Switchhttr69 @ Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 00:50:39 AM CDT

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Maybe this is God's way

of punishing Daddy Dobson for his latest naughtiness...

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:12:26 PM CDT

Antidotes to the freeper venom...

...courtesy of "The West Wing":

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by: GraciesDaddy @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:16:10 PM CDT

We wealthy Lesbian activists are celebrating tonight

A dozen bottles of Moet et Chandon are chilling here at my home, a caterer is due with hors d'ouerves and grilled chicken breast with bernaisse sauce, stuffed mushrooms, garlic mashed potatoes, asparagus vinagrette, french onion soup and traditional New England chowder, and chocolate torte with raspberry sauce. Heterodoxy is celebrating the first definitive legislative victory for our cause.  Probably the best celebration that the organisation has had in the 100+ years of its' existence. And well worth it.

Tony;
Sorry about not inviting you, but you would not have fit in, you are far too tiresome...

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:40:04 PM CDT

Do you have a few bottles of...

Crème de Cassis? Kir royales are so de rigeur amongst the Parisian lesbian set right now.

(they're also bloody gorgeous)

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Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.

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by: tavdy79 @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:46:59 PM CDT

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What? Bernaisse sauce on a chicken breast? And

what were you thinking by pairing either French onion or New England clam chowder with the rest of your menu?

Maybe these are all your favorite dishes, or something, but just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

Remember what FDR said, "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it." Have you written/called a congress-critter today? 8.25, 6.21

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by: Jacques @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:56:16 PM CDT

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The New England Chowder was a requirement

as for the rest, I had to go with what I could get on four hours notice.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:30:01 PM CDT

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and surprisingly

the chicken with bernaisse was delicious
especially when Perkins, Barber, LaBarbera and Dobson are dining upon ashes this eve!!!!!!

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:41:56 PM CDT

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Not surprisingly, it's just one of those recent inventions

(chicken breast with Bearnaise? IIRC only started in the 1950s when everything French became a fad. It's not inherently evil, just new...)  

Remember what FDR said, "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it." Have you written/called a congress-critter today? 8.25, 6.21

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by: Jacques @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:43:55 PM CDT

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Wealthy?

I laughed at the accusation that I'm a "wealthy homosexual activist."

I spend hours upon hours everyday blogging and going to meetings and fighting for the right to marry my boyfriend.

And I couldn't be more broke.  And I don't mean "broke" as in, "Oh, wow, I can't go out to eat."

I mean, "The economy is KICKING MY HOMOSEXUAL ASS!"

But guess what?  I'm not going to stop.  Even if it breaks me.

So Tony, you can kiss my broke, homosexual, activist ass.

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by: UnitetheFight.org @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 22:05:34 PM CDT

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Some comments from FauxNews

here:

by paintingpapa Massachusetts [Apr 7, 2009 4:43:54 PM]
One more reason I continue to boycott VT. Just wish I could get out of MA.

It's such a small state, dude- put on your sneakers!

This is my fave so far:

by tjpro NY [Apr 7, 2009 4:18:13 PM]
Lets break this down: we are fighting for a Word: Marraige....

Remember that we are a nation based on the principle that ALL men are created equal.

Ah, a classic hater:

by schott Oklahoma [Apr 7, 2009 4:11:13 PM]
foxnewsliars: It is the "noble actions" that homosexuals perform that have us so disgusted.

Gonna be lots of fun reading the papers tomorrow!

 

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 17:45:07 PM CDT

I love the last one

I am regrettably single at the moment, else I’d celebrate that last one by performing some “noble actions” of my own :).

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by: pgraydon @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:37:38 PM CDT

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Huge amounts of love going out to the Freepers!!!

Also found in my very special shout-out to all the haters. Not safe for work without headphones.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

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by: Keori @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:13:10 PM CDT

Thanks Keori!

We are playing that over and over here!!!!!
Thanks for adding to the celebration

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:33:12 PM CDT

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Heh.

I heard that song and had to go grab it from iTunes.  (The non-edited version, of course!)  I may even be able to talk my band into covering it.

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by: M @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:22:01 PM CDT

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Great article in Newsweek today

titled, "The End of Christian America".

http://www.newsweek.com/id/192583

No wonder they're flipping out.

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by: exfundie @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:19:45 PM CDT

Maybe an open thread

in the morning as well, so folks can pop in quotes/links to their local media reactions?

Goodness knows, they should be good- and on the heels of Iowa, a good barometer as to the national picture.

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:21:25 PM CDT

yes good idea

I have the perfect graphic to go with it...

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:46:59 PM CDT

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A HappyCat Dance ;)

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:53:31 PM CDT

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Now, Louise, we should be praying for these religious fools,,,

  Praying that when their heads explode it doesn't get on an innocent victim.  That shit could be toxic ya know.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:52:08 PM CDT

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"Sodomy Squadron"??!!?!!

Sounds like fun.
Sign me up right now!!

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by: Joe the Cynic @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 18:39:06 PM CDT

"thumbing their nose at God"

Matt Barber: "people who are bent on thumbing their nose at God."

Translation:

"people who are bent on thumbing their nose at ME and MY PERSONAL AGENDA".

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by: bluegrassfool @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:16:16 PM CDT

Perfect timingfor CWA,

  They have a new post up about Reflections on Marriage and give a damn good reason why Everyone should be allowed to Marry,

By publicly exchanging vows of fidelity and promises of love, those who marry begin a work of building something larger than they know. When both husband and wife lay aside their resentments when they don't get their own way, learn to appreciate their differences, and thus achieve a deeper understanding of one another than the mere romantic attraction that brought them together initially, their affection for each other can steadily deepen until the relationship they create becomes an influence on the lives of everyone who chances to witness the love they share.

 

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:20:49 PM CDT

Meant to add,

Husband and Husband, or Wife and Wife, and they would have it perfect.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:22:41 PM CDT

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Sweet maple syrup

I've been eating sweet corn since friday, going to switch over to corn chex with maple syrup starting today. Waiting for April 24th ME with fingers crossed so Louise can ship me a fresh lobster! I can't believe the fundies didn't bring up the fact that Iowa got a huge snowstorm last weekend due to teh gays getting marriage rights.

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by: berta @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:35:23 PM CDT

OMG

I've been insanely busy today and yesterday.  What a couple of days to be out of the loop.  But, I just have to stop in and say w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t! w00t!

I'd love to challenge Bam Bam to a verbal boxing match!  Please oh please Bam Bam.  Honestly, I'd love to have one of these fundies stop in and see just how pedestrian my life with my partner actual is. Maybe they can watch me pay bills, or pick up our laundry, or walk the dog, or commute to work.  JUST. LIKE. THEY. DO.

Electricity's for light bulbs!

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by: n8nyc @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 19:45:53 PM CDT

Well

wouldn't they have to actually work to be able to commute to it?

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by: Rae @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 20:38:52 PM CDT

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Concerned Women for America's President Wendy Wright

Concerned Women for America's President Wendy Wright issued a statement today condemning the bill's legislative supporters for "vainly redefining marriage."

Noting that Vermont was the first state to create same-sex civil unions, Wright said: "As pro-family leaders warned, and despite claims by homosexual activists, this debate is not about benefits. That was merely the wedge to demand more, to require that everyone in society accept what cannot - by nature - be, that marriage can be something other than one man and one woman."

"The decision by Vermont legislators to attempt to redefine marriage creates an urgency for other states and officials to protect marriage," said Wright

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 20:01:06 PM CDT

Oh, thanks for that one. We'll add that to the diary's main text. :)

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As if there were safety in stupidity alone.
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by: Autumn Sandeen @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 22:30:29 PM CDT

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Response to churches

If some churches want to discriminate, then they deserve to be called a "hate group". But, the question is WHO is calling them a hate group. It will be people like me who disagree with the hate being taught by those organizations. It's NOT the government calling them a hate group. It's your neighbor.

I think really your concern is that you are part of the hate group and don't like it. You prefer to discriminate under the guise of being on the just and righteous side of things. It stings when you're not. Well, let it sting. Maybe one day you'll find that to love your neighbor isn't always easy and comfortable

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 20:11:42 PM CDT

Focus, finally!!!!

Focus on the Family apparently thinks that some kind of super-secret trickery ws going on:

"The vote change reflects the triumph of a short-term view of political persuasion and correctness over a long-term view of the needs of future generations of Vermont's children," said Jenny Tyree, marriage analyst at Focus on the Family Action.

"Marriage is larger than any judge or legislator. It's the only social institution with the purpose of giving a mother and a father to every child, and lawmakers ignore that purpose to the detriment of society."

Focus on the Family Action's site also expounds:

Thanks to several legislators who mysteriously changed their votes over the weekend, Vermont has become the first state to radically change the definition of marriage through the legislative process......

.....Three states - Massachusetts, Connecticut and Iowa - have been forced by their state courts to redefine marriage. Forty-three states have laws that protect marriage as the union of one man and one woman, including 30 with constitutional amendments.

Gay activists have made no secret of their goal to legalize same-sex "marriage" in six New England states by 2012.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 20:23:26 PM CDT

Ahh yes

The "won't someone please think of the children" argument. I'm starting to see more and more people, not just in the US, but also in Europe and other parts other world, who oppose equal rights use that argument.

Of course, they have nothing to say when the rights, or rather, the lack of rights, of GLBT children are brought up.

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by: rfloh @ Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 01:56:20 AM CDT

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Genuine Right-wingnuttery

From comments at OneNewsNow:

Firstly they should have used the proper term "sodomite" instead of homosexual. And yes, that term should make you feel uneasy. It's certainly not "gay" to be against God in your conduct. I'll even approach this from an evolutionary standpoint - "gay" behavior is maladaptive, because it does not perpetuate dna into successive generations. That behavior should have been vetted out millions of years ago. So this goes not only against the supernatural, it goes against the natural. The Bible does say that prior to Christ's return it will be as in the days of Lot. I guess we're getting close folks.

Without marriage of the male and female, Vermont in a generation may not exist,

these demons in the vermont legislature will pay dearly for their refusal to obey the Holy Word of God, God will not be mocked, Vermont will suffer because of the immorality and pervertion of its legislators.

And from the Freepers, the expected insanity continues:

The Satanic forces take over while the rest of the nation slunbers on. We should be taking to the streets. Where the hell are our Republican/Conservative leaders? Why is there no massive boycott of Vermont. Boycott their hotels, businesses, products, produce evrything! Can we have a FReeper do this?

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 20:48:04 PM CDT

name change

Firstly they should have used the proper term "sodomite" ... It's certainly not "gay" to be against God in your conduct.

So are we supposed to start calling these homobigots "sodomites" now? After all isn't their hateful conduct against God?

watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka

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by: belfrieboi @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 21:25:19 PM CDT

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So...

why exactly would these fundies who don't believe in evolution be discussing dna inheritance?

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by: Rae @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 22:05:08 PM CDT

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Whose God are they talking about?

  We these fucktards continue to claim people are against God if they don't believe the same way they do, whose God is it?  There are so many different religions with different Gods and Godesses, who are they talking about?

 Is this the same God that said keeping black people in their place was his law? I know it is  the same bible that the KKK used.  Is this the same God?

 Yeah, I thought so, he is one hateful mother fucker to say the least.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Apr 07, 2009 at 23:00:49 PM CDT

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