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Land at Sea Over Iowa Marriage Equality - The Queers are Coming!

by: davidhart

Wed Apr 08, 2009 at 15:05:02 PM EDT


 Cross-posted at: http://www.tips-q.com/808260-land-sea-over-iowa-marriage-equality-queers-are-coming

richard-landRichard Land is the president of The Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. Mr. Land is also not content with the freedom to practice his religion; he seeks to impose it on everyone else. Furthermore, Land suggests that gay people pose some sort of threat to others. As a guest columnist in today's Christian Post, Land writes:

"'Wedding' Bells Rng Off Key in Nation's Heartland"

Note the gratuitous and  petty use of the quotation marks around the word wedding. Sorry Richard. Gays can marry in more and more locales. Their bind is lawful regardless of how much you deprecate the commitment. But I digress.

Land goes on to explain:

"It has been my contention for some time that each state needs to have in place a constitutional amendment defining marriage as only between one man and one woman. Without such an amendment, a state’s activist Supreme Court can overturn a law adopted by the legislature, declaring it to be unconstitutional. … Once again, it was the judiciary branch of state government rending the nation’s moral fabric, bent on rewriting our country’s social construct."

Why is it that every jurist who renders a decision that the right wing evangelical Christians don't like is an activist? Judges are supposed to invalidate laws that are unconstitutional. I would remind Land that the decision was unanimous and the the Chief Judge was appointed by a conservative  Republican governor. What Land is calling for is state-sponsored bigotry to coincide with his religious beliefs. The Iowa Court addressed this issue. Frankly, Mr. Land, I was brought up to believe that the "nation's moral fabric" was defined by a commitment to equality and freedom.

Land goes on to pontificate:

"This ruling turns Iowa into a destination for same-sex 'marriages.' No doubt there are weekend travel packages already being planned. Iowa will soon be the Las Vegas of same-sex “marriage” for America." 

Sounds good to me. Yet another reason for Nevada to do the same.

"And you know those folks won’t be resettling in the Hawkeye State, but will be heading back home–perhaps to your state."

Oh my! The queers are coming! The queers are coming!

What Land is disgracefully suggesting is that people have reason to fear gays. Presumably those committed couples are already living together. However, by getting married in another state and then returning home  (with a marriage that probably won't be recognized), they pose some sort of threat to others. Not surprisingly, Land does not specify what that threat is or who is threatened. Land is promoting homophobia in the true sense of the word. Trying to instill unwarranted fear over a group's differences is the worst kind of bigotry.

Who is next, Mr. Land? Who is next?

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THE QUEERS ARE COMING (to Iowa):

This ruling turns Iowa into a destination for same-sex 'marriages.' No doubt there are weekend travel packages already being planned.

How horrible that a bunch of people are coming to Iowa (for at least 4 days - there's a three day waiting period), spending a bunch of money, and going home.

Yep, that'd scare me to. Imagine money coming into your economy during a recession. No, we wouldn't want that.

And you know those folks won't be resettling in the Hawkeye State,

And this will mean there will be an increase of homosexuals in Iowa. Counting the coming and going, it would out to an increase of...

...sorry, there's something wrong with this calculator...

...let me try this again, just a second...

Sorry, it's coming out as a net increase of zero homosexuals permanently living in Iowa. That can't be right.

but will be heading back home-perhaps to your state.

HORRIBLE! The people who LEFT your state for a few days will be COMING BACK! Before, you may have had thirty thousand homosexuals in your state. Now, after these people go to Iowa and come back, you would have...

...wait, that can't be right...

...let me check the math again... carry the 2...

...it's coming out that there would still be thirty thousand. Why isn't it more? Maybe I can find the answer in the Bible...




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Indigestion In The Heartland
There will be so much more of these sorts of lamentations, wailings, breastbeating in the years to come. And threats, lamentation and created panics...

Best to watch and learn now how to calmly and logically deciminate these rants- the information will need repeating to those who could be swayed either way.

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."


The IA Supes did a nice job of calmly and logically decimating the rants...
Their equal protection discussion set up most, if not all, of the right's sacred cows and knocked 'em down, one by one.

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Same ol', Same ol' from the Xtian Hate Squad
Land's fanning the flames makes me concerned that some who takes him seriously wacko is going to be moved to violence against some committed gay couple that wants nothing more than a government-granted property right. Then, I'm sure, Land would use such an event to show how horrible it was that the gays ever came. Typical right playbook. Set up "the other", and then acted shocked when someone in the flock takes action against the monster you created.

Being a Xtian leader means never having to be accountable for your words.


Lesbian Socialist Obamanistic Activist Judges
are everywhere, waiting for a signal to implement a secret order worked into the text of the gay agenda and decoded by assigning each letter a number and adding to it the numbers generated by the phrase "secular-humanism" where the hyphen is a placeholder.

It's all part of our secret plot with the illuminati and the Freemasons....

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


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If there is anyone whose right to marry should be called into question,
it is the "marriages" of these counterfeit professional "Christians" and their insistance that their selective "religious" beliefs bear the exclusive endorsement of a constitution which strictly forbids the establishment of religion in every state.

Let there be no mistake here - this continuing fear-and-smear campaign against the dignity and the lives of GLBT citizens is the real moral outrage in our country. We should be questioning the foundation of the marriages of religious zealots who always seem to demand that those outside their selected faith make sacrifices of human rights and property to support THEIR churches - and to have those sacrifices enforced by the rule of law.

No gay "activist" - and no "activist" Supreme Court justice, has ever suggested that those who select "religious" beliefs which dictate that certain relationships are "sinful" must be forced to marry someone of the same sex - and yet these "religious" nutcases constantly attempt to deflect from their major talking points that others must be forced to adhere to SOME of their "religious" beliefs in order for them to maintain a healthy "marriage."

One thing that irritates me about our gay organization leadership is that we don't take the issue by the horns and just let loose on the hypocrites. This claim of the sanctity of one-man/one-woman households hasn't led any of their organizations to campaign to end the right of state recognition for heterosexual adulterers, murderers, or spousal abusers. The "protect marriage" organizations haven't done much to stop heterosexual pedophiles from marrying and producing children to abuse. In fact, they never seem to go on television or grant a newspaper interview when still another case of parental child abuse surfaces and pontificate about how these relationships degrade marriage and the family and redefine the institution for everyone.

And yet they whine on about "counterfeit" marriage, as if they don't regularly use the argument that gays can "marry" anyone of the opposite sex whether there are any ingredients of love and commitment involved. They support the idea that marriages of convenience are genuine and deserve legal recognition and benefits. They support the notion that there is nothing "counterfeit" about milking the marriage legal system to achieve green card status, to provide cover for property ownership, to gain financial benefits, as long as that counterfeit relationship is heterosexual in APPEARANCE. THEY are the ones promoting counterfeit love and counterfeit marriages - and go so far as to claim that their own are threatened if others aren't willing to engage in such counterfeit arrangements.

Someone on our side should do a study of which relatives are more likely to steal the inheritances and property of unrecognized same-sex couples when one partner dies. Why do I often get the feeling that the most zealous vultures are likely members of these churches who use their "moral" beliefs to suddenly swoop down from the heavens and proclaim their legal right to annex property of gay relatives they've long ago declared sinful strangers?

As for their outrageous fearmongering "save the children" argument, what have these organizations done to save the children from being born into heterosexual child abuse households? What have these churches done to amend the constitutions to prevent spousal murderers and rapists from engaging in marriage?

There is nothing "biblical" about these charlatans at all. They see a cash cow in promoting hate and violence against fellow citizens while engaging in their usual coverup of their own inadequacies and their promotion of counterfeit relationships - and then hide it under the guise of "religion." We shouldn't fear shoving it back in their faces - and questioning why such people of low moral standing and emotional insecurity should be granted state recognition and benefits.  


exactly where is this homosexual vegas being planned?
the heterosexuals of this country have had a good run of it--with overnight marriages in las vegas (a la britney spears), chronic adultery and divorce by the leaders of their bigoted organizations, sham marriages for convenience sake (as kevin so brilliantly outlines above), and silence from religious fundie organizations whose real sole purpose is to make gays and lesbians suffer as much as possible, for as long as possible.  they know damn well that the tides are changing and that theirs is a losing battle, and yet they continue with their de-bunked lies d falsehoods because they want to make us pay for having the audacity to ask for equal rights.

so what if some part of iowa--by some ridiculous stretch of the imagination--became a place where gays and lesbians gathered to party??  heterosexual equivalants of that "outrage" exist in EVERY CITY IN THIS COUNTRY ALREADY.  every college town, every city, often in multiple neighborhoods.  the quantity and quality of the debauchery, especially on a weekend night, can be staggering and totally obnoxious, and upstanding fundie kids are often right there with them, puking their guts out.  but give us one weekend, one parade, one advertisement in one magazine showing one gay couple, and they go fucking ballistic about us forcing our lifesyle on them.  time to drop the pretense.  we are under no obligation to anyone to live up to stricter standards than your average hetero.  a gay mecca in iowa won't happen, but if it did, we'd damn well deserve it.          

The gays stole my lunch money


Des moines, the Provincetown of the Plains?
It could work! The real estate has to be lower in cost than on the Cape, an ambitious developer could make a fortune!

We could have a midwestern DuPont Circle near the Capital as well.......

a grainbelt Greenwich Village if you will

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


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