Rachel Maddow & Behind the Scenes of NOM Video

Thanks for posting...

... that's the funniest damn thing I've seen all week. sigh

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by: nekobus @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 07:15:04 AM CDT

Silly people never learn

Whenever you try to censor something on the Internet it just pops up again in other places:

Auditions for marriage lie ad from End Marriage Lies on Vimeo.

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by: Stephanie @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 07:38:12 AM CDT

You beat me too it...

I was just about to post this myself.

Gilmore is right... "The Internet interprets censorship as damage and routes around it."

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by: TheAngryFag @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 08:26:07 AM CDT

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Sadly, it's been yanked as well.

n/t

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by: Robyn @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 09:34:04 AM CDT

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The beauty of Youtube! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

The original may have been yanked, but Rachel's clip STILL WORKS, with the green screen of ijdits still stumbling away...

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by: Louise @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 12:35:31 PM CDT

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someone needs to load it onto Dailymotion

I think that's a foreign-hosted service; I've seen a lot of videos that would have been yanked on that platform.

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 10:23:20 AM CDT

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New Coffee Mug Day at the Blend!!!

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by: Louise @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 07:43:02 AM CDT

Looks like a new sci-fi horror thriller

Watch Fundamentalist Tyrants from another world arrive on earth to stop human knowledge, love and freedom.

NOM

New from the Sci-Fi Channel

Premieres Saturday April 11th at 8:00 pm

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 07:46:16 AM CDT

Directed by Ed Wood Jr.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 10:53:13 AM CDT

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I think the thing we must keep in mind with ads like this

is that while Gay Marriage is the nominal subject what's really involved is homophobia at its pulsing core. Gay Marriage is the final step towards full induction into society. And these people are horrified at having to take us seriously at all -- at any level whatsoever. We are supposed to be The Unspeakable. We are supposed to lurk in shadows of fear and shame.

That we don't totally unhinges them.  

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by: David Ehrenstein @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 08:17:49 AM CDT

Very well said, David.

You've hit the nail right on the head.  

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by: Kringas @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 08:33:33 AM CDT

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What I really want to see is the casting call

I have had LIMITED experience casting for videos for my clients, and even the local talent who only works on the odd one-off project comes across as far more professional and together than any one of these folks. In fact, there are people we thought were staggeringly untalented who were still miles away from these folks.

Did they post the casting call at FotF? The local megachurch bulletin board? What?  

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by: Ailei @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 08:40:17 AM CDT

That's what I was thinking

These dolts didn't look like they'd even done public speaking before. I do a lot of it for my job, and I know I've done a better job with a script (which, by the way, you're supposed to read first) on camera than this.

Interestingly, during the 1968 Nixon campaign, they had a famous ad with a woman walking home alone along a city street, while the narration talked about how crime was rampant, etc. The music builds until you're sure she's about to get mugged, or worse, and she suddenly arrives safely home. Not very subtle race-and-counter-culture baiting in the ad, but it was effective. The interesting thing is that the campaign had a hard time casting the ad, because very few actors were willing to do it. They could not understand why anyone would have political or moral objections to a job like that.

I wonder if NOM had to cast relative amatuers, either because they couldn't afford high-quality, or because professionals wouldn't spew their BS.  

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by: CPT_Doom @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 09:23:54 AM CDT

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My thoughts, too

Perhaps these were local church members doing auditions? I assume that the "stories" the (amateur?) actors were speaking were not their own stories, but written for them to then act in the ad?

The ad comes across like a poorly done CGI straight-to-dvd horror movie. I wonder what future generations will say about this when same-sex marriage (along with lgbt issues in general) are less the cultural war issues they are now.

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by: bored beyond belief @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 15:14:29 PM CDT

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Actors are used to Starving ...

My theory - and I have nothing to back this up - is based on the actors that I know and have worked with in my life.

They're a progressive bunch, and they are very idealistic.  And it's not at all hard for me to believe that it would be very, very difficult for NOM to find an actor with any kind of talent who would be willing to star in one of their stupid commercials.

Furthermore, actors are used to starving: recession schmecession.  They're always out of work, and have learned how to rub two nickels together and come up with pasta salad for four.  They don't need to take work they don't want, and any actor with a brain knows that being featured in this kind of commercial will be - in the long run - detrimental to their careers.  I can't think of a single director I've ever worked with who would knowingly hire anyone who agreed to be in this ad, no matter how talented they were or seemingly perfect for the part they were auditioning for.  There's always another talented actor, preferably one who didn't sell their artistic soul for one measly day's work.

It's my hope that many actors who showed up for this audition walked out as soon as they read the sides, before it was ever their turn to read in front of the green screen.  And I don't think it's unlikely.

"There are two kinds of people in this world -- the kind who separate the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't."  -- Gloria Steinem

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by: red7eric @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 14:04:24 PM CDT

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Professionals and wannabees

Given their cheap and cheesy production values, I somehow doubt they were paying union scale for these "actors". There probably weren't many professional actors even auditioning for this.

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by: Stephanie @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 18:11:40 PM CDT

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Yes, and ...

As an actor, a union card is very difficult to get.  There are millions of SAG/AFTRA/AEA members out there, but ten times as many for whom union membership is still a goal.  Some of them won't ever get there, and not necessarily because they lack talent.

Put simply, there are lots and lots of really talented non-union actors out there, in every city of the nation.  And if the cause is right, they'll work for free (something union actors CAN'T do), figuring that the visibility in itself is worth the day's work.  But, if the pay sucks, and the cause sucks even more, they won't do it.

The fact that these actors are so uniformly bad (they come off a little better in the finished product because of production values, but not much better) makes me almost sure that lots of talented folks took a pass.

And then, I wonder ... what is it about a conservative mindset that somehow correlates to a lack of artistic vision or talent?  There must be something to it.  I've always believed that artistry led to a more liberal worldview, but maybe it's the other way around.  A new chicken/egg question for the 21st century ...

"There are two kinds of people in this world -- the kind who separate the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't."  -- Gloria Steinem

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by: red7eric @ Sat Apr 11, 2009 at 12:06:51 PM CDT

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Last Night

Rachel was awesome.  When she did the report on Tea Bagging and all the double entendres, I was laughing so hard I thought I was gonna have an asthma attack.

Besser ein ende mit Schrecken als ein Schrecken ohne ende

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by: becca @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 10:00:56 AM CDT

When Anna Marie Cox said.......

"Who wouldn't want to tea-bag John McCain?" That was it for me, it was fun watching Rachel trying to remain composed.

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by: exfundie @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 17:40:34 PM CDT

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The teabagging stint was hilarious

Think the director kept cutting away from Dr. Maddow because she was cracking up....I think I lost count after she said 'teabagging" over 20 times....think she was trying to get the word in as much as possible before the head honchos figured it out.  
Too funny and the repugs don't even have a clue.

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by: Karen in Kalifornia @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 20:20:23 PM CDT

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God

I love this Woman.

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by: ggw59 @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 10:05:27 AM CDT

If the MSM was on every attack like they were on this,

  Things would change quickly.  But then again, I don't think there was an ad campaign that has b;own up this big in the Fundies face.  I do know the LGBT watches these people with keen eyes, as many of us are on a few of the E blast lists and recieve their action alerts.

 The lies from the religious right are being exposed.  The damage that has been done to the religious right by this one KaBoom is great.  The taking points have been exposed for the lies they are.  Hopefully it will have serious impacts on the debate on our rights.

 I hope President Obama has been advised on the lies religion has told regarding the LGBT community.  His silence speaks volumns as his positions he holds have been exposed to be completely false not only by NOM's KaBoom, but the ruling of the Iowa Supreme Court and the actions of the Vermont Legislature.


If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 10:27:09 AM CDT

Thanks to Rachel....

and her "just enough" friend Kent Jones. Has anyone else noticed how they are becoming much more vocal regarding gay topics?

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by: pb1025 @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 11:08:32 AM CDT

...also on the KO show...

Which in on both before and after Rachel. ...and last night it was the new ED Show because KO and his whole crew were at his mom's memorial.  Well ED put the ad on, and invited Brian Brown of NOM and an HRC representative to discuss.

BROWN DECLINED!  Cluck, cluck cluck.  

HRC sent David Smith...(who is as bad a spokesperson as JOE S.... can't they afford some media guys?  Why not put MikeSignorile on... he is wasted on radio.. HOT!)

so there was a bit of talk basically about how passé 'group hate' think is and how it won't fly in the 2010 election cycle either. 

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 11:28:01 AM CDT

Does the ad work?

Seriously--these people are like zombies, affectless, and stand there like oafs, and read their lines with absolutely no conviction.  The whole concept with the cheesy lightning effect, and every other aspect seems designed to undercut the message.  Maybe the casting director actually is gay and was intent on sabotage?

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 12:07:51 PM CDT

Hell, Being A Decent Human Being In 2009

Is "very, very challenging".

Just ask Maggie!

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by: bluegrassfool @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 18:31:45 PM CDT

Oh Poppy Poop .....

... alas lovers of Rachel Maddow (I thought she already had a girl friend) the video has been deep-sixed by YouTube per copyright poppy pop.

NOM is on the run.

Aye matey, there be flukes in the water.

Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar. - Edward R Murrow

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by: Lyndon @ Fri Apr 10, 2009 at 22:26:35 PM CDT

We fixed with tht longer MSNBC video.

The piece now though comes with the other couple of stories in the segment.

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As if there were safety in stupidity alone.
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by: Autumn Sandeen @ Sat Apr 11, 2009 at 04:10:53 AM CDT

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