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Rick Warren's peeps start up the damage control machine - massive FAIL

by: Pam Spaulding

Sat Apr 11, 2009 at 12:17:01 PM EDT


Oh the joy of getting busted lying on international TV and having to do serious damage control. My post on Tuesday, "Rick Warren lies about his homobigotry on Larry King Live," was picked up by Huff Post and created a buzz for  pointing out that on the man who delivered the invocation at the President's inaugural, Rick Warren, the spiritual leader of Saddleback church, flat-out lied about his support for Prop 8. A recap from the CNN transcript...

WARREN: During the whole Proposition 8 thing, I never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never -- never once even gave an endorsement in the two years Prop 8 was going.

But of course he seemed to have forgotten his message to his flock prior to the election where he very clearly endorsed Prop 8:

WARREN: Here's an interesting thing: there are about 2% of Americans are homosexual, gay, lesbian people. We should not let 2% of the population determine -- to change a definition of marriage that has been supported by every single culture and every single religion for 5,000 years. This is not even just a Christian issue, it is a humanitarian and human issue, that God created marriage for the purpose of family, love and procreation. I urge you to support Proposition 8 and to pass that on.
OK, so after this blew up on the LGBT blogs, it also hit the evangelical, anti-gay sites because Warren's performance angered them because it looked like he was backing away from his staunch anti-marriage equality position.

Apparently the damage control is under way. On Friday I received an email from a Jim Anderson, who is a Christian music artist and self-described "worship leader" -- and a "media representative" for the Saddleback pastor. Folks, this is what massive PR fail looks like - it won't stop the laughter on the left, and it won't pacify the Religious Right:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Correction for your post on Rick Warren's CNN Appearance
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 09:47:37 -0700
From: Jim Anderson
To: pam
I'm providing this to you in an effort to clarify statements made by Pastor Rick Warren during his April 6th appearance on CNN "Larry King Live."  Several comments he made during that interview have caused confusion which I would like to clarify on his behalf as media representative for Saddleback Church.

Throughout his pastoral ministry spanning nearly 30 years, Dr. Warren has remained committed to the biblical definition of marriage as between one man and one woman, for life -- a position held by most fellow Evangelical pastors.  He has further stressed that for 5,000 years, EVERY culture and EVERY religion has maintained this worldview.

When Dr. Warren told Larry King that he never campaigned for California's Proposition 8, he was referring to not participating in the official two-year organized advocacy effort specific to the ballot initiative in that state, based on his focus and leadership on other compassion issues. Because he's a pastor, not an activist, in response to inquiries from church members, he issued an email and video message to his congregation days before the election confirming where he and Saddleback Church stood on this issue.

During the King interview, Dr. Warren also referenced a letter of apology that he sent to gay leaders whom he knew personally.  However, that mea culpa was not with respect to his statements or position on Proposition 8 nor the biblical worldview on marriage.  Rather, he apologized for his comments in an earlier Beliefnet interview expressing his concern about expanding or redefining the definition of marriage beyond a husband-wife relationship, during which he unintentionally and regrettably gave the impression that consensual adult same sex relationships were equivalent to incest or pedophilia.

Jim Anderson

Direct questions to:
Kristin U. Cole

a. larry ross communications
(p) 615.289.6701
(f) 615.825.9152

How can anyone take this pitiful defense seriously? The general audience watching the Larry King Live program was not aware of the hair-splitting and parsing going on; and Warren didn't address that prior interview that he surely knew would confuse the issue.

And come on, he knew that endorsement was going to circulate all over the place, and the Prop 8 folks had no problem with taking advantage of that. It's still a lie, a lie of omission because it's hard to explain away the very clear pro-Prop 8 statement.

And about that about the pedophilia/incest/polygamy stuff Anderson is alluding to? That BeliefNet interview didn't sound like an unintentional impression to me.

Rick Warren: But the issue to me is, I'm not opposed to that as much as I'm opposed to the redefinition of a 5,000-year definition of marriage. I'm opposed to having a brother and sister be together and call that marriage. I'm opposed to an older guy marrying a child and calling that a marriage. I'm opposed to one guy having multiple wives and calling that marriage.

As I said in my earlier post -- will Rick Warren ever be held accountable for trying to rewrite his bigoted history? If he's so confident about his position, why has he refused to debate it in public? Why did he try to back out of meeting with gay and lesbian families from Soulforce who were invited to his church? His attempts to weasel out from under his bigotry on live TV hardly represents integrity.

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Another TV spotlight ...
Warren is scheduled to be on "This Week ..." on ABC Easter Sunday morning.

Can't wait to see what kind of a pass he gets there by the Easter Bunny.

Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar. - Edward R Murrow




"I have become all things to all people"
Apparently "jesus" was the only one who could pull this off. Ricky you are no jesus.

So what he is saying is......
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...too late.

Can these irresponsible liars please stop...
...claiming that one man, one woman is the norm in "EVERY" culture in history.  For fuck's sake, polygamy is the norm in much of their own bible, and is still such in some cultures today.  They simply don't care about truth at all.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

Why...
let a little thing like the truth get in the way of PR spin.  Your point is well taken.  Perhaps Warren was sleeping during his Old Testament history class.

[ Parent ]
Even their explanation needs an explanation

Throughout his pastoral ministry spanning nearly 30 years, Dr. Warren has remained committed to the biblical definition of marriage as between one man and one woman, for life -- a position held by most fellow Evangelical pastors.  He has further stressed that for 5,000 years, EVERY culture and EVERY religion has maintained this worldview.

EVERY culture and EVERY religion has defined marriage as one man and one woman? Well, Islam allows one man and four women. (Not to mention "paid temporary marriages", but that's a whole 'nother story.) Mormons allowed one man with many women, until they received a revelation (spurred by government) that that wasn't the plan. What about the ancient Greeks and Romans? And, weren't there a few men in the Bible who had multiple wives?

Even some "primitive" cultures accept different views of man-woman relationships. You would think Rick Warren's spokesperson would have done a simple search of "primitive culture homosexuality".

So getting back to the subject title, sounds to me like their explanation needs some further explanation, such as what they meant by EVERY culture and EVERY religion.

-Ted


Can't have it both ways, Rick!
There has been alot of "Come Over To The Dark Side, Rick!" dissatisfaction for years...

Pro-Family Coalition Issues 'World AIDS Day' Appeal to Rick Warren to Address Homosexuality and 'Gay' Promiscuity in Effort to Stop Pandemic

Contact: Peter LaBarbera (630) 717-7631
Linda Harvey (614) 442-7998

CHICAGO, Ill. Today, World AIDS Day, a coalition of pro-family and Christian leaders is asking "Purpose Driven Life" author Rick Warren to address headon the issue of homosexuality and "gay" promiscuity as prime contributors to the spread of HIV in the United States, as Warren leads a "Global AIDS Summit" at his Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, California.

Linda Harvey, president of Mission America, said:

"We call on Rick Warren to get real about HIV and AIDS in this country. Will he say, flat out, that people who are practicing homosexuality need to get out of that lifestyle? Will he tell his millions of followers that being an open and unrepentant homosexual is incompatible with the Gospel?"

San Diego Christian activist and former homosexual James Hartline issued the following statement:

While Pastor Rick Warren of Saddleback Church is doing a noble service for the people of Africa by holding a global summit on AIDS, I must ponder in my mind where pastors like Rick Warren were those many years when I was struggling to get out of homosexuality.

Stephen Bennett, a man who once engaged in the homosexual lifestyle for over 11 years and is now happily married to his wife of 13 years and father of the couple's two children, said:

"The spread of HIV and AIDS worldwide CAN come to an end ONLY when the promotion, acceptance and tolerance of homosexuality worldwide comes to an end. Pastor Rick Warren knows that truth-yet does he have the courage to proclaim that? Warren chose the noble battle to end HIV and AIDS. Well, homosexuality is a big part of that package. Rick Warren should make it his 'purpose' in his 'driven life' to drive home the truth about the destructive and deadly alliance between homosexuality, HIV and AIDS. To do anything less is hopeless, 'purposeless' and simply a waste of time."

The following pro-family leaders and organizations are part of the HIV Truth Coalition:

Peter LaBarbera, Americans for Truth

Linda Harvey, Mission America

James Hartline, James Hartline Report

Phil Burress, Citizens for Community Values

Brian Camenker, Mass Resistance

Sandy Rios, Culture Campaign

Michael Heath, Christian Civic League of Maine

David Smith, Illinois Family Institute

Stephen J. Bennett, Stephen Bennett Ministries Worldwide

Dr. Vic Eliason, VCY America Radio Network

Randy Thomasson, Campaign for Children & Families

Diane Gramley, American Family Association of Pennsylvania

Joe Glover, Family Policy Network

Cathie Adams, Texas Eagle Forum

Anthony Verdugo, Christian Family Coalition

Christopher Long, Ohio Christian Alliance

This article was posted on Friday, December 1st, 2006 at 10:47 am.

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I find it interesting...
that Stephen Bennett has to emphasize that he's the father of his wife's two children.

[ Parent ]
That's Because He's The Only "Ex-Gay"
with allegedly "natural children".

One other has adopted children, and the rest are SO "ex-gay", they just can't get into an opposite-sex relationships.


[ Parent ]
Nice, nice dig, Louise.


It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Stephen Bennett
""The spread of HIV and AIDS worldwide CAN come to an end ONLY when the promotion, acceptance and tolerance of homosexuality worldwide comes to an end."
 I find this statement to be rather curious when research has shown that hetero sexual activity,especially in Africa, is the leading cause of the continued spread of AIDS.  I really doubt that this man doesn't know this, so what does that say about this so-called Christian's character?

[ Parent ]
This is what happens
When you want everyone to like you and don't stick with your convictions. I would rather he just stuck to his convictions whether his is for us or against us. Waffling is so 90's

Biblical Definition of Marriage = 1 Man and 500 Wives & Concubines...
Plus, Rick's lies about EVERY religion ever in existence denying same sex marriage are just that, lies.  Many American Indian religions recognized same-sex marriage, religions in India, even the Catholic Church have, in the past, sanctioned and recognized same sex marriages.

I don't know if Rick is ignorant, a liar, or both.


Or in Newt's definition
1 man + 1 woman
       another woman
       a third woman
and a religious conversion.

John McCain's definition
1 man + 1 woman
     + a beer heiress, after adulterous affair.

 

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[ Parent ]
... the biblical definition of marriage as between one man and one woman, for life ....
This doesn't even make sense!  IT'S NOT BIBLICAL!  

The only such Biblical definition only applies to church leaders.  

In what Christians typically refer to as the Old Testament it's as obvious as the nose on your face that not only is polygamy accepted, it's normal!  

At least if you're going to be a Biblical literalist get your scripture straight!  

Idiots.......


Nice Pam, very nice...

Hope this gets picked up by HUFF PO, too. 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


Of course he's a liar
More than any other shuckster on this free money, no taxes train, Rick is most obviously into it for the money and nothing else. He has no beliefs outside of making himself money and his obscene pseudo speech at the Inauguration was proof enough that he doesn't really seem to believe or care much about God or religion or even thinking about what he is saying.

He's a fraud making a mint and must be exposed as such. And shit like this helps.


But you know the fundies' response to this criticism, don't you?
They claim that having lots of money is a sign of God's favor.  So how can you criticize anyone who goes after lots of money?

How could anyone argue with that?

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
Man up, Pastor Warren!
Pastor Warren, you own this endorsement of prop 8!  To paraphrase AC-DC, Stand up and be counted, for what you are about to receive!

Arg
I cannot stand Rick Warren.  I still haven't figured out why Barack Obama couldn't have found a less-radical Christian to deliver that prayer (if indeed a prayer was truly necessary in the first place).  

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