Miss California at presser: if we don't save marriage kids won't have moms and dads

This is actually a great thing

NOM know that they are getting severely trounced around the country on marriage equality.  First their ad was a bomb (and not da bomb), and then Maine and New Hampshire are very close to adopting a marriage equality bill.  They know they're losing and are trying like hell to grasp onto somthing.

They're frantic.  I mean to highlight Perez Hilton! Com'on!

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by: BB @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 14:54:14 PM CDT

Another bubble

The anti-SSM marriage movement's bubble has burst.  With Bush and other GOP in office for so many years, it was easier to slow down the trend of favor by social moderates towards SSM.  But now all bets are off...the overwhelming amount of Democrats in office, coupled with a newfound energy from the prop 8 fallout, have created an environment amenable to pro-gay legislation.  We're realizing that public opinion against SSM wasn't nearly as strong as Karl Rove or NOM have protrayed, and the polls are starting to reflect this.  

Now the only question is, how long will it take?

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by: Bruno @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:47:36 PM CDT

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She's a dolt!

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by: BB @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 14:57:06 PM CDT

Gluttony & Vanity

"Miss Jugs for Jesus"

LOL!!!  I LOVE IT!!!  Keep the name for future use!

I find it hilarious that one of the 7 deadly sins (gluttony AKA Maggie Gallagher) has joined forces with another deadly sin = pride/vanity AKA Miss Jugs For Jesus.

Speaking of parents, if Maggie was so worried about kids having 2 parents, why isn't she spending time with her own kid(s), instead of focusing her time and energy on OTHER families?

Maggie is becoming like Peter LaBarbera - latching onto anything and everything she can, to keep herself afloat.  I hope Jugs likes being used for somebody else's personal gain.

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by: bluegrassfool @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 14:58:06 PM CDT

why , oh why

are these fundies insist on equating marriage equality with the flaws of heteros?

for once, why can't these hypocrites attack the true root in the failure of the family structure: deadbeat mom and dads, divorce, teen pregnancy, adultery, poverty?.  

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by: henry81 @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:04:38 PM CDT

She comes across as so completely defeated in that video. That's because she is. Yay!

NOM has been reduced to essentially apologizing for their bigotry and asking people to please just give hate a chance.

She still won't own up to only representing the Neo-Nazi citizens of the state of California, though.  Why is representing only half of the state is good enough for her?  Does she hate the other half that much?  Guess she wouldn't have a point if she acknowledged her job was to represent everybody.

One thing's crystal clear, though: she wishes she never got caught up in this mess and wants it to just go away.  Guess what, Carrie?  Us, too.

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by: diablorobotico @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:06:01 PM CDT

Me Too!

I wish it would go away as well, but we also have Perez Hilton to thank for this.  I don't like the guy, don't read his website, yet everyone has to pay for his little catfight.  

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by: bluegrassfool @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:09:11 PM CDT

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But at the same time

thanks to Perez Hilton, we now know what a vapid and insipid bigot Carrie Prejean is.

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:13:31 PM CDT

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Make no mistake

Prejean is a bigot and deserves to be called out as such.

However, IMHO, Perez Hilton is almost as useless of a life form.  One can be a non-bigot and still be an intellectual amoeba.

There truly is no reason that I (or almost anyone) should ever have heard of Perez (or Paris.) Their collective substantive contribution to society is quantifiably lower than the empty bottle of diet coke sitting next to my computer here in my office.

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:19:14 PM CDT

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Yeah, but the ones that traffic to his site

will probably be ones that cememnt SSM and all civil rights in place for good. Sure, it appeals to the lowest common denominator a lot of times (even in this case) but he does appeal (for whatever reason) any many don't.

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:35:54 PM CDT

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If we have Perez Hilton to thank ...

... then I guess all there is to say is THANK YOU!!!

In all seriousness, this woman is a gift to the LGBT equality movement.  We couldn't have asked our opponents to select a better spokesmodel for their side.

I generally don't like Perez Hilton.  I don't like that he called her a "dumb bitch" (only because it reveals a misogyny and lack of intellectual curiosity on his part and reflects badly on the entire LGBT community), but I thought he asked a great question at the pageant, and I'm thrilled (thrilled!) at Carrie Prejean's newfound celebrity and the geniuses at NOM who decided to exploit it.

"There are two kinds of people in this world -- the kind who separate the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't."  -- Gloria Steinem

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by: red7eric @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:26:13 PM CDT

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If you heard her answer when first asked,

  You would agree she is a dumb bitch.  Her joining with NOM just proves it.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:59:26 PM CDT

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PEREZ HILTON JUST GOT THIS AD PULLED FROM YOUTUBE...

... because of the copyright violation of using his image in it without permission!!!

Joemygod just posted about it.  Absolutely hysterical.  And a brilliant (if highly ironic) move by Perez.

I'm not a fan of his site and I'm not crazy about the misogynistic name-calling, but you got to admit he has totally owned Carrie Prejean from the beginning and now he totally owns NOM.  Way to go, Perez!

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by: diablorobotico @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 19:51:01 PM CDT

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I think

after that press conference she may start to realize that she's going to get asked a lot of questions she didn't want asked and it going to become a buffoon on national TV.

Why hasn't anyone asked Maggie Gallagher, who is an unwed mother (although I think she snatched a man to marry her eventually) why was it OK for her to raise her child with only one parent?  All these "reborn" sinners want to have control over everyone else's lives because they couldn't handle their own.

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by: BB @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:11:32 PM CDT

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Star Parker

You're correct - just like republican hero Star Parker.  She has 5 or so abortions while committing welfare fraud.  Then she goes "born again", telling women how to live their lives, as well as threatening to "quarantine the sodomites".  

Oh, and she also talks down to black people as well (being black, herself), because she latched onto a white guy.

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by: bluegrassfool @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:23:52 PM CDT

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Definitely.

Plus she's gone from hanging around fabulous, fashionable, fascinating people who treat her like a princess to hanging around weird, stupid, unattractive bigots who use her like a prop.  From people who buy her new breasts to people who beg for money from morons.

Carrie Prejean goes to all the best parties and knows all the best people.  Or, at least, that's what she thinks she's supposed to be doing.  Only those people don't want a thing to do with her now.

Misguided fake religious beliefs or no, a life as an outcast with NOM is not what Carrie Prejean signed up for.

I predict all it will take is missing a few good events that all her old friends are going to for this attention whore to suddenly believe that the way she was raised isn't so important to her, after all.

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by: diablorobotico @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:20:10 PM CDT

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"if we don't save marriage kids won't have moms and dads"

And people privileged by the double-luck of the prettiness draw and coprporate-financed boobies might not continue to get to avoid having to venture into the real world to compete, using brains and not smiles and curves, with real people to find real gainful employment in some objectively useful line of work.

The horror!

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:10:51 PM CDT

Haven't you heard?

Masked GLBT marauders will sneak into het family homes and scoop up Teh Babiez (TM) in pillowcases!

The ones that survive the kidnapping will be indoctrinated with Teh HomoSexshul Agenda then infiltrate Teh Skoolz!

The ones that don't survive will be eaten- natch.

That's why "if we don't save marriage kids won't have moms and dads" is TRUE- Mom need to protect the childrun and stand guard in their bedrooms while Dad marches the perimeter outside with his trusty shotgun.

(makes as much sense as anything coming out of Prejean!)  

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:39:42 PM CDT

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Huh?

Gee not all the seats are filled.  

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by: Donna @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:51:45 PM CDT

guess it's too late

to educate this woman.

http://EQFL.org

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by: banshiii @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 15:58:23 PM CDT

Damn, she's stupid

I'm sorry, but when did ANYONE - according to Miss JFJ - ever say the marriage between a man and woman is discriminatory?  It is such a bold-face lie.  What we are saying is that not allowing same-sex couples to marry is discriminatory.  People in opposite marriages can marry all they want!  And many have done so - even those who shout their morality from the highest mountain.

Side note - Does anyone doubt this woman will be running for a House seat in 2010?

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by: stojef @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:25:53 PM CDT

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If Virginia Foxx retires,

Carrie will have a lock on her seat.  Then she and Joe the Plumber could form a presidential ticket in 2012.  I know the perfect slogan for them:  Plumber and Dumber!

I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights.  -Archbishop Desmond Tutu

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by: QScribe @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:50:32 PM CDT

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I am dead serious

I'm not kidding.  I'm not talking about Virgina Foxx or being snarky.  I totally believe you will see her running for a House seat or, if that isn't available, a California state legislative seat in the next election cycle.

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by: stojef @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:39:41 PM CDT

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I'm thinking more...

of a pundit on Fix News or her own bible talk show.  I can't see her standing up to the political scrutiny, or wanting to.

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by: Bruno @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:03:05 PM CDT

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Yeppers, then Huckabee will be counting her boobies,

  I mean counting his blessings.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:11:38 PM CDT

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She's probably not intelligent enough to know this history, but...

when did ANYONE - according to Miss JFJ - ever say the marriage between a man and woman is discriminatory

Well, there were some ultra-radical second-wave feminists who advocated the view that there was no such thing as consensual male-female intercourse.

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:37:50 PM CDT

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Damn, she is stupid...

"If we don't preserve "traditional" marriage, Carrie says, children will not have mothers and fathers."

Someone in the media, please ask her this question:
"How does a gay couple getting married prevent a straight couple from also getting married and having children?"

That's such a straight forward question I think even her feeble little brain would be able to understand it.

I also think it's funny that she believes her position is correct just because a majority of Californians agree with her. Did she ever consider that sometimes a majority can be wrong?

She is the perfect little religious robot, isn't she? She has never questioned her religious upbringing, even after being surrounded by gay people throughout her pageant universe. I've come to the conclusion that she is incapable of any kind of personal introspection. Her church has made sure of that.

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by: obtusegoose @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:04:03 PM CDT

Gaydar rays have been shown to reduce sperm counts on prolonged exposure.

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by: mcc @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:02:11 PM CDT

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A rhetorical comment

Here's a perfect example of why in some sects followers of Jesus are called "sheep". It's the #1 reason I left Christianity in my teens...

I'm nobody's sheep -- I have a mind of my own, and there's no way in hell I'm going to have someone tell me how to think using a Bronze Age book!

Listen to "TransTalk" every Thursday at 4-5pm ET on http://www.falconradio.org

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by: Marlene @ Fri May 01, 2009 at 06:00:52 AM CDT

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Children won't have moms and dads...

...because of a lack of "traditional" marriage but because the moms and dads will get lost since many US Americans don't have maps and will some how mistake South Africa and the Iraq for home.

</snark>

Sorry I couldn't resist.

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by: craigkg @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:05:13 PM CDT

**spittake*

Dammit, Craig, I just spit water on my monitor laughing! My coworkers are looking at me funny!

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

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by: Keori @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:01:02 PM CDT

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or end up in that country called Africa,

  And I can see Gilligan's Island From my House.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:04:53 PM CDT

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Surgical goof

They must have used brain tissue to augment the breasts during surgery.

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by: Phil @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:13:18 PM CDT

that is easily one of the stupidest looking/sounding people i have ever seen

and stupidity is so unattractive.  she can barely put two words together...jesus, how does that woman even manage to get herself dressed in the morning?  NOM and prejean are a match made in heaven.  an organization with nothing left but lies and falsehoods, and a new spokesmodel who intellectually cannot delve into the reasons for her belief structure, let alone put together a coherent sentence.  nice!  

i loved the question about dating ex-gays.  that asshole should put her money where her mouth is....you think homosexuals can change?  great, prove it by marrying one.  after all, marriage is not about--according to this group--about love.  it's about procreation and mother/father combinations first and foremost.  i think the best thing that prejean could do to prove herself right is to go out and find some self-loathing fundie ex-homo and get to it.  her huge fake boobs can do the talking.        

The gays stole my lunch money

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by: matt in mpls @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:19:56 PM CDT

And if she knows there's no such thing as a real "ex-gay"...

... then how cruel and hateful is she that she would deny people who she knows can't change who they are (even if they wanted to) the chance to be part of a happy, healthy, loving, productive, legally-recognized couple?  And what business is it of hers to begin with?  After all, I don't remember any of us saying we didn't want her to be able to get married!

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by: diablorobotico @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:35:56 PM CDT

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This thread is (LOL)

the true indictment of Perez Hilton.

Perez, honey, anybody can call a woman the "b-word" or the "c-word." Leaving aside the misogyny, as a queen, we expect your insults to be much more inventive and refined.

Keep the hits coming guys, this *ish is funny.

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 16:26:46 PM CDT

"got milk?"

Since Prejean is such a such a champion of begettin' children in "opposite marriage," isn't it ironic that such a young woman chose plastic titties to replace her "god-given" ones?

Implants have been proven to prevent or cause complications for lactating mothers and the children that suckle thereof.

"Sorry junior, mommy traded her tits for a tiara."
["tits and tiara" borrowed from an earlier poster.]  

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by: picture_this! @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:14:19 PM CDT

"Counterfeit Marriage".....

meet counterfeit hooters.

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by: bluegrassfool @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:19:31 PM CDT

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Silicone Barbie

Dena

Cisgender. Because "Genetic" is so 2006.

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by: Denabeth @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:33:53 PM CDT

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Good Lord Ms. Prejean

don't you know that bitterness causes one to develop wrinkles?  Hold on to your most precious asset for as long as you can.

anybody else notice that she only mentioned her mother when stating that she was raised to believe that one day she would marry a man.  where's her father?

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by: exfundie @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:19:30 PM CDT

Miss California

is a STATE pageant. Sponsored by the STATE. We have have separation of Church and State. She can't spew her religious bigotry as Miss California. Take away the damn tiara. Fire her stupid ass.

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by: hank @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:25:55 PM CDT

What?

"If we don't preserve "traditional" marriage, Carrie says, children will not have mothers and fathers."

Where will children come from to be parentless if they have no parents?

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by: Cheryl @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:42:50 PM CDT

So, like, NOM has hired a 21-year-old UNMARRIED beauty pageant contestant

to help them "defend" marriage?

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by: Pollyanna @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:45:45 PM CDT

Quick!

Find her a man and force her to conceive- STAT!

The "Fate Of All Marriage and Families" depends on it!

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:53:10 PM CDT

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Umm...

My first real look at her was in that "press conference" clip above.  I'm thinking if she wants to conceive healthy offspring, she'd best put a few pounds of fat and muscle on that skeleton.

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by: Pollyanna @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:32:03 PM CDT

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She has a man, per his Gma she is dating...

Michael Phelps... not much between the ears there either. Wonder if he like the falsies.

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 22:16:34 PM CDT

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Oh that's right!

But according to him, they weren't dating... it was a "oh no WAY!" moment when I heard about Phelps and Prejean.

He's painful to watch yet has done far too many TV interviews; I know what you mean, Orion.

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Fri May 01, 2009 at 04:55:38 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Carrie Prejean

Future Stepford wife.

Dena

Cisgender. Because "Genetic" is so 2006.

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by: Denabeth @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:12:28 PM CDT

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She is clearly trying to be Anita Bryant 2.0

And just like Anita, Carrie will crash and burn because of her ignorance and the NOM folks will kick her to the curb and manipulate the next "savior" that comes along.

What a bunch of loons.

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by: DilworthDem @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:47:38 PM CDT

Carrie wasn't even a gleam of evil in her (missing?) father's eye when Anita Bryant was destroying lives.

If she has a role model, it's fellow beauty queen Sarah Palin.  Bryant actually accomplished something, however heinous.  Carrie doesn't have a hope in hell of being anything other than laughed at in this life.

Stupid?  Inarticulate?  Hateful?  Taken seriously by only the lunatic fringe? That's Sarah Palin through and through.  In her day, Anita Bryant could eat both those losers for breakfast (and wash them down with a tall glass of Florida orange juice, of course).

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by: diablorobotico @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:10:13 PM CDT

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Wasn't Anita 1.0 bad enough?

What's Anita 2.0 going to do?  Appear on Springer and get "deflated?"

I think they did a "Porky's" movie on that.

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by: Phil @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:13:29 PM CDT

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On Springer?

More like "Wanna watch me jump in place for Jesus?".

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by: bluegrassfool @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:28:24 PM CDT

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Just another pretty face with no brain...

Hm... They do make them Fembots pretty these days.

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by: minienigma @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 17:52:09 PM CDT

Wanna bet

She'll have a book (ghost written of course) out in a few weeks. Gotta milk that persecuted "Christan" demographic...

Available soon at your local Walmart.

Dena

Cisgender. Because "Genetic" is so 2006.

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by: Denabeth @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:24:39 PM CDT

She will end up under Ann Coulter's wing,

   

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 18:47:19 PM CDT

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OMFNG

OH MY GAWD.

That has got to have been the worst press conference performance I have ever seen. From the reading of the prepared statement to the answering of simple questions.

This dumb bitch is sure to become the next Anita Bryant.

Typical Railroader-Tired, Broke, Hungry, Sick, and Mad

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by: labrat78 @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 20:08:02 PM CDT

LIAR!

What is amazing here is that in the Pageant she stated "that she is HAPPY to live in a country where we are free to choose..." Which clearly is a lie, because NOM clearly DOES NOT support the right to choose....So which is it Carrie...???? Did you lie then or are you lieing now...btw..return the implants that the Miss Calif. organization bought you.

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by: mdoutloud @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 20:14:03 PM CDT

What a nitwit

If we don't save marriage by prohibiting people we don't like from getting marriage nothing will change.  Because banning same-sex marriage won't stem the tide of heterosexual divorce (which is why so many children have only one parent instead of the "mommy and a daddy" that I insist are necessary).  And who am I to speak of what's "normal" when I have fake boobies? But then hypocrisy has always been the norm of the RRRW so I can do whatever I want while still standing here with a fake smile and the pretense that I'm a victim of persecution la la la la.  

"If a bullet should go through my head let that bullet go through every closet door."
Harvey Milk

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by: Buffy @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 20:23:45 PM CDT

WHAT AN IDIOT!

Seriously!

-Divorce causes children to not have "a mommy and a daddy"
-Death causes children to not have "a mommy and a daddy"
-Alcoholism causes children to not have "a mommy and a daddy"
-Drug abuse causes children to not have "a mommy and a daddy"
-Domestic violence and spousal abuse cause children to not have "a mommy and a daddy"

-Orphans don't have "a mommy and a daddy"

Just because you have a soapbox and a spotlight doesn't mean that you are qualified to speak.

Charley sez ---- Bat sh*t crazies amuse me!

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by: vwboy81 @ Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 21:19:58 PM CDT

Ann Coulter better watch her back.

I think another blond show-pony wants her bony ass on the couch at FOX.

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by: steerpike66 @ Fri May 01, 2009 at 01:16:34 AM CDT

Thought the same thing

She looks like a "Dance Ten Looks Three" version of Coulter. THAT AINT IT KID THAT AINT IT KID...TITS AND ASS.

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by: bostonian queer in dallas @ Fri May 01, 2009 at 03:35:22 AM CDT

[ Parent ]