Did New Hampshire Become Domino, er, State #6 Overnight?

Not yet?

A fundie site is reporting the bill hasn't even been sent to the governor yet.

http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org...

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by: kathygnome @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 06:42:35 AM CDT

Yeah, it's too soon

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com...

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by: Lisa @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 06:47:59 AM CDT

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still waiting

I received an email from NHFTM the other day, said the bill is expected to reach the Gov's desk today so we have 5 days from then...

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by: zythyra @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 07:24:12 AM CDT

One major correction Louise - they would become # 7 - CA had legalized

same sex marriage but the bigots took it away.

Yet every media report that I see only counts the states that currently (or would currently) allow it - and they're all inaccurate in that respect.

If NH becomes law, then 14% of the States have had legally recognized same sex marriage - not 12% of the States.  With a few others potentially on the horizon.

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by: Scott_NC @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 07:40:09 AM CDT

Thank you Scott_NC

I grew tired of making this point after Iowa and Vermont hit the news.  

The fact that marriage equality existed in CA before the right was stripped from a minority population is an enormous statistical exception that should NOT be swept under the rug.  

What happens when Prop 8 is overturned or repealed?  Do all the subsequent states move up a notch or does CA become number 8, 9, 10 or 11?  

In any event, the thousands of same-sex marriages conducted in CA should not simply be forgotten in the horse race because the media has a hard time explaining the inconsistencies in equality.  

Thanks for not upholding that dishonesty.

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by: Patrick @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 08:45:27 AM CDT

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It's a very convenient way for the M$M to sweep it under the rug - bigots

stripped legal rights from one group of people - is not something they care to report on.

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by: Scott_NC @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 09:37:06 AM CDT

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Under WIKI

CA is now noted as 'recognized in some regions.'  

United States (CA, CO5, DC, HI, MD, NH, NJ, OR, WA)

   ??? Maybe others know more about this.

with the CO footnote = as of July 1.

New York is listed as 'recognizing, but not performing)

?? Also re California, as someone asked me. Are all legal marriages performed in other countries and other states before November 5, 2008 recognized in California?

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by: Orion45 @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 10:34:15 AM CDT

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those are some questions that are unanswered....

if the person was a resident of CA previously and was married internationally between june 15 and nov 4 then those marriages are probably recognized in CA after the Supremes rule.

Although earlier marriages (i.e. in Canada) went into effect on June 15th, I suspect that when the court rules they will determine that only marriages that actually OCCURRED in the window, not those that became LEGAL during the window, will be legal going forward.


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by: Mad Professah @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 12:06:44 PM CDT

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For better or worse,

if the CA Supreme Court upholds Prop 8, California will next year become the first and only state to have marriage equality supported by all "three" branches of government; the legislature, the court, and the voters....then what are the Antis gonna be able to say?

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by: Karen in Kalifornia @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 12:04:15 PM CDT

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Easy!

The reicht will whine once again that they've been denied their "divine" right to dictate what rights a citizen can have, in direct violation of the tenets of the conservative movement, and keep raking in the millions shilled from gullible folks.

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by: Marlene @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 13:40:49 PM CDT

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I'm not forgetting at ALL

since one of those 18,000 couples are dear friends of mine (Teac and her wife) and a few others are Maine residents who spoke at the public hearing a few weeks ago.

California knocked over the domino- then Prop 8 stood the damned thing back up. So now it needs to be knocked down again.


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by: Louise @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 12:42:13 PM CDT

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It would still be number six then.

Maine can't be counted until the issue of the Bringham Young Veto has been delt with.

I am the lizard queen!

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by: RainbowPhoenix @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 11:03:22 AM CDT

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Thanks for using the term "Brigham Young Veto"

We need to keep the focus on how out of staters from UTAH are attacking the rights of citizens in other states.

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by: MauraHennessey @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 12:53:52 PM CDT

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From today's paper

Legislative supporters in the House and Senate said they want to get both bills to Lynch at the same time.

The original gay marriage bill (HB 436) needs the signatures of House Speaker Terie Norelli, D-Portsmouth, and Senate President Sylvia Larsen, D-Concord, before it could head to Lynch's desk.

The bill that fixes the first (HB 310) still needs clearance from legislators who have to confirm it's been technically reviewed before it can then go to Norelli and then on to Larsen.

Once Lynch gets both of them, he has five days to make up his mind or they become law automatically without his signature.

It hasn't even reached his desk yet.

http://www.nashuatelegraph.com...

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by: TannerIL @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 07:53:15 AM CDT

Confirmed

I talked to one of our state Reps here in Hudson, NH this morning and he confirmed that Lynch has not seen the bills on his desk yet. He also said the calls and emails to Lynch were heavily in favor of the veto but also noted many were from out-of-state.

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by: Herb @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 08:15:13 AM CDT

Why do out of state people think they will have any influence

it's so bizare to me. I guess they think they can have influence by sheer numbers.

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by: bruhrabbit3 @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 13:13:35 PM CDT

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NH bill

We have a similar arrangement in Washington state.  A bill becomes law by default unless vetoed by the governor within 5 days of it being presented to her, excepting Sundays.  The exception is that the governor has 20 days to act if the law was presented to her within 5 days before adjournment of the legislature.  (Check your constitution in NH to see if it has such an exception).

We have a similar situation here in WA where it was widely believed that our governor would let the greatly expanded domestic partnership law become law by default.  Then she announced she would sign it on 5/18 (one day before the default deadline of 5/19)

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by: Erick in Seattle @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 09:02:50 AM CDT

WA governor is supportive, but...

word is she is postponing signing until the last possible moment in order to limit the amount of time available for opponents to gather signatures for a repeal initiative.

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by: Smartypants @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 13:04:35 PM CDT

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The gov is in no hurry to sign it....

and for once I'm thankful for government delay and foot-dragging!  If the governor were to line-item veto one little section of that massive 181 page bill (ie the section on public waterways, or fishing licenses, or dikage and irrigation districts...), I wouldn't be offended. The opposition would have to refile their initiative and begin a new waiting period for a ballot title.  Good for at least another week of delay.

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by: Erick in Seattle @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 14:37:02 PM CDT

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Well, WIKI....doesn't have it up yet.

...and they are pretty Johnny-on-the-spot. (Now where did that saying come from?)

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 10:29:01 AM CDT

Hasn't Reached his desk yet

As the Nashua Telegraph reported today:

The original gay marriage bill (HB 436) needs the signatures of House Speaker Terie Norelli, D-Portsmouth, and Senate President Sylvia Larsen, D-Concord, before it could head to Lynch's desk.

The bill that fixes the first (HB 310) still needs clearance from legislators who have to confirm it's been technically reviewed before it can then go to Norelli and then on to Larsen.

Once Lynch gets both of them, he has five days to make up his mind or they become law automatically without his signature.

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by: claudew @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 11:02:11 AM CDT

Seems the Union Leader story

was in error when they reported that the bill HAD been sent to the Governor.

How big a building is in Concord, anyways? Never looked that big when I passed it on I-93 before... funny how Maine was able to have Senators Damon and Bliss walk our bill from the Senate to Gov Baldacci's office in a matter of minutes!

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by: Louise @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 12:45:49 PM CDT

Disgusting Isn't It? (How slow this is going)

I think the governor is dragging this out as long as possible.

For the record you can see the gold capitol dome from I-93, but yes the building isn't all that big.

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by: xrk9854 @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 13:05:31 PM CDT

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Next we'll hear

about his dog eating the bill, how he can't find in amid the clutter on his desk, it accidentally got thrown in the recycle bin, etc.

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by: Louise @ Wed May 13, 2009 at 13:17:32 PM CDT

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