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LDS fringe mulls chemical castration as 'cure' for homosexuality

by: Pam Spaulding

Wed Jun 10, 2009 at 06:00:00 AM EDT


Blender Beth pointed me to this insane thread on the Mormon Apologetics Board, " Is chemical castration an option for LDS gays?, Why not reduce inappropriate sex drive?" where this is method of de-gaying is discussed -- and it's no joke.
[I]s chemical castration an option for LDS gays? I mean, if you're faithful LDS & accept that for whatever reason the Lord has put you on Earth as a "eunuch" (best case, if you can stay strong), why should you have to struggle with incessant thoughts that are not just inappropriate now, but will be inappropriate in the next life, too, only serve to pervert any desires to have children in a celestial relationship in the next life. There is zero point to having homosexual thoughts, it's not as though they're a normal part of the procreation process - they're just an annoying, perverted form of biology, entirely worthless.
And this from, heaven help us, a psychiatric social worker:
I have considered this dilema for years, but don't think much of it these days. "What is, is; what ain't ain't." Persons with sever mental illness do take medications, necessarily so! They take them with informed consent, voluntarily, and with increasingly greater success. If there are medications, which there are, that can help an alcoholic check his/her drinking should we suggest that the alcoholic not take the medications based upon the idea that it robs him of moral agency? What about the diabetic? I have seen diabetics, craving sugar, eat themselves into various stages of neuropathy. Medication can help stave off those cravings. Can we possibly suggest that because it would rob them of moral agency a diabetic should not take medications? In my view it would be immoral for those responsible not to do everything possible to get the person so sticken to take the medications that will provide the help they desperately need. If there is a chemical solution to help a chronic adulterer or a gay man acheive sexual sobriety, and worthy entrance to the temple, I AM ALL FOR IT. I don't remember questions on the temple recommend interview asking the kind of medications I take or why I have to take them. Do you?
Over at PostMormon.org, this garbage is shredded. See below the fold.
Pam Spaulding :: LDS fringe mulls chemical castration as 'cure' for homosexuality
You have to wonder how prevalent that belief is that we read above. DrW at PostMormon couldn't believe how deranged this is:
In an earlier post, I mentioned that our  pleasant little neighborhood (eight houses) was 25% gay by household.

A couple of weeks ago, I mentioned that I was looking for some used golf clubs for the 16 year old son of an unemployed single Mom in the next town. The son wanted to learn to play golf and couldn't afford clubs.

Ten minutes later, our gay neighbor knocked on my door  with a very nice set of clubs, bag and all, and asked me to give them to the boy. These have since become the boy's prize possessions.  

This and many other acts of kindness were reasons that I was shocked to read on the MADB board the other day that, had this gay individual been Mormon, he may well have had members suggesting that,  instead of living in a mutually supportive and loving relationship, he should voluntarily chemically castrate himself.

I kid you not.  

When I actually opened and read the post, I thought about someone suggesting that to my friend in person, and almost wished that this Mormon author could have that opportunity.

For a moment, I imagined this Mormon individual  receiving a personal lesson in gay pride that would take effect faster than any anti-gonadal chemicals.  (But it was just a fantasy. Our neighbors are in excellent physical condition, but would never cause bodily injury to another except in self defense.)

I apologize if posting this seems inappropriate. But the more I thought about this apparently acceptable Mormon viewpoint, the more upsetting it was.

I have heard some pretty silly, and even (perhaps unintentional) malevolent, suggestions for helping apostates or potential apostates to come back to the fold and live in accordance with gospel principles. But this one takes the cake.

Again, if apologies are needed for posting this bit or Mormon insight and wisdom, you have mine.

If this is too off the wall to respond to, please just ignore it.  However, I get upset just thinking about this. I makes me embarrassed to be a member of the Church, even if in name only (which I hasten to assure you is the case.)

I wanted to let this community know what kind of irrational (twisted?) thinking goes on in the minds of supposedly faithful members of the Church when it comes to what they view to be God's will.  

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Religious facism?
This idea officially puts these people in the same line with Nazis in Germany back in the 30ies.  The same reasoning the Nazis had when they ordered to castrate so called 'asocial elements' (gays, prostitutes, etc.) is applied here.  Disgusting but revealing, I'd say.

It also puts them in line...
with 1950s England. It's widely believed that the suicide of Alan Turing, who died after eating a cyanide-laced apple in 1954, was due to his court-ordered chemical castration.

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Besides,
Being gay or lesbian is more than just sex. I love my wife and will love her the rest of my life, even if or when sex is no longer an option because of illness, old age, crankiness (grin) or whatever. These people just Don't Get It! No libido denying medicine is going to change who I am or what I feel.
And remember,(just in case she reads this) I didn't mention Who would be the cranky one.

...
Fiona, you're missing the point. If they simply didn't get it, that would be forgivable because it would mean they could be educated. But the problem is that they don't WANT to get it. They simply want to force everyone to live according to their beliefs.

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Unsurprised
These people used electroshock therapy on witch-hunted gay BYU students and those who desperately wanted to be "cured." Obviously that didn't work, so now they're advocating chemical castration for men to assist in conformity. The female sex drive and desire for compatible loving companionship is, as usual, completely irrelevant. Mormons are sick, sick people.

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Will they slip it in our drinks?
Mormon roofie?

What a day, what a day for an auto-da-fe

Oh my God
That's just horrifying on so many levels. I find myself most offended that these fucks think my orientation (asexual) can be a "cure" for anything and will somehow affect love (I've been with my same gender partner for 3.5 years now). Also, isn't the production of good mormon children supposed to be important to being a good mormon in good stead with the church, so what are they supposed to be raped after they are castrated?

If there were any better proof that mormonism is a rape cult that should have no say in the relationships of consensual adults and instead should be raided on charges of conspiracy, it'd be hard to find it. I'm literally sick at this concept.


Pam
this ties in perfectly with a video clip I posted on indiana.bilerico.com, "The Dangers of Fundamentalism -- John Dominic Crossan"
http://indiana.bilerico.com/20...

Crosson talks about the dangers of this type of thinking and what it could potentially lead to.  It struck home to me thinking about how fundamentalist christians deomonize the LGBT community.  To what extreme will they act out their bigotry?  Scarey.  Hope you take time to watch the clip.


One more thing
LDS?  It should be LSD as in LDS on LSD.  Freaks.

Why is this not strange to me
Living in Utah nothing that flies out of a Moron's Mormon's mouth.  Since we essentially have a theocracy here run by the LDS church, I am surprised they don't try to pass a law about it.

"I drank what?"  Socrates

Chemical Castration = HRT for Me
I'm a trans woman.  I'm already taking what they consider chemical castration as hormone replacement therapy.  Funny how it doesn't make me go away (because I'm sure being trans is part of teh gay to LDS types).  Also, chemical castration only works on males.  What about females?  Idiots.

They don't care...
about women. Misogny is generally at the heat of homophobia. These people are obsessed with male sexuality. They don't really care what women do.

Its one of the reasons that it always seems odd to see women promoting homophobia.


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Women don't matter.
As far as they (and really all anti-gays) are concerned, female sexuality is a delicate happenstance for becoming vessels for sperm - and since females are so fragile psychologically, it's natural for them to be "confused" about sexuality and think they love women. Men are supposed to rise up and insert themselves into society and run it. Women are no threat. Only 100 years ago it was assumed women didn't have a sex drive at ALL. Now we're these fragile little creatures that "practice for boys" or "get confused about big complicated issues like sex" when we're actually just naturally queer.

I think that misogyny is indeed at the heart of homophobia. Two women being together? Women are already passive, who cares? But two MEN together means one of them takes on the passive - the WOMAN'S - role during sex and it is to be loathed. (of course, this is a ridiculous belief but this is what goes through their heads).  

- Emily K -


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Homogenizing the Homosapian
The basic rational of the LDS is seriously flawed. Can you imagine some religion telling a person of color to bleach their skin so they might become accepted into the church? Such superficial change demands would make that church a seriously A-listed nutter church!

Destroying someone's sex drive is not going to give the church the results it wants unless they are looking to have a congregation of zombies.

Why is it so important to homogenize people? This urge surely is coming from the lizard brain that says "my gene pool" (people who act and look like me) must prevail at any cost.

Mitt Romeny has some explaining to do.


That LDS psychiatric social worker...
...should lose her or his license if that person ever participated in such utter and completely unethical behavior.

I guess contemporary Mormons
aren't content simply to think back on the good old days of the Mountain Meadows Massacre.  They want to bring its spirit into the present.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


who are these people??
holy horsemeat!  a real stunner.

They're improving.
They used to be advocates of electroshock therapy. As in, hooking up a pair of electrodes to a man's testicles and running an electric current through them.

I am the lizard queen!

If chemical castration...
would keep Mormons from procreating, I'd be all for it.

There, that's the shoe on the other foot.


Exactly!
And they bring the crazy there in a futile attempt to use reason to justify the insane.

Educate me.

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not the fringe
Just to clarify, the Mormon Apologetics Discussion board (MAD for short) is not a fringe of the LDS community, but rather its self appointed intellectual wing and part of its mainstream. These are average, practicing mormons with educations who work hard to justify their faith (as all apologists do) to themselves and the wider world. Although the average mormon on the street wouldn't know the ins and outs of their apologia for, say, the Book of Mormon, they would (and do) blend in perfectly in any Mormon congregation.  You should take seriously what these people say as an indication of where theological and policy discussions among Mormons is at.

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"Intellectual Wing"?
Does that imply they think for five minutes before following the diktats of the Mormonführers, rather than just blindly obeying?

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[ Parent ]
oh, i think you can be surprised
at how intelligent a person must be to run through so many hoops to rationalize their bigotry and faith.

There are a lot of very, very intelligent idiots out there.  


[ Parent ]
My mother is one of them.


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[ Parent ]
Isn't Intellectual Wing
And LDS somewhat of an oxymoron?

I mean, I know lots of Mormons (less than two hours from Utah here), and while most of them seem to at least outwardly, be pretty good people, intellectual is not one of the descriptors that springs to my mind when asked to describe them.....


[ Parent ]
The people suggesting this are idiots
But, if someone is whacked out enough to decide he prefer's chemical castration to leaving the LDS church, he's the person that has the problem, not the idiots suggesting it.

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in time of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality. -- John F. Kennedy (inspired by Dante's Inferno)

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