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More on fair-weather progressive 'friends' selectively defending DOMA

by: Pam Spaulding

Sat Jun 13, 2009 at 18:27:58 PM EDT


My pal Joe Sudbay has written a thoughtful and spot-on piece about the sad reality that many in the progressive straight community, particularly those who are lawyers, are defending this administration's decision to defend DOMA in a manner that is completely soulless, devoid of humanity and it's not all that surprising to me (check out this DKos post for a prime example).
For some, the decision whether to defend or oppose DOMA is purely a legal exercise. For many of us, it's our lives. I'm sure, along the way, Thurgood Marshall and the NAACP were told to back off on their challenge to Topeka's segregation law. After all, that law had been unsuccessfully challenged already, and there was that very clear Supreme Court precedent on "separate, but equal." The law is the law. Who was this political activist Thurgood Marshall to suggest it should be overturned?

It's shocking how many people viewed yesterday's DOMA discussion through their own purely intellectual, legal lens. The condescending tone from some of the legal types, both straight and gay - all Democrat - was insulting, demeaning, and horribly out of touch (with their own humanity). Gay Americans lost rights last November in California. We had fundamental rights taken away by an election. Think about that. When was the last time that happened in this country?

Lots of progressives run screaming from the issue of race, for instance, running for cover out of fear of appearing racist; why should we be shocked that the LGBT community is getting a taste of the "just wait and be patient" dismissiveness as we watch progressives put the "lalalalala" fingers in the ears because they don't want to discuss the filthy, degrading arguments in the brief. They aren't about to go there, because there is no defense, and of course THEY AREN'T HOMOPHOBES, right?

This is really about heterosexual privilege, coming from people who have full civil rights; isn't it nice from that vantage point to smugly  tell LGBTs who could lose their job for being LGBT or legally marry in one state and lose all of those rights when you cross a state line that they have to wait -- and be quiet lest they ruin ___ (health care, the environment, economic recovery...fill in the blank). Joe:

Yesterday, a Democratic President of the United States of America, in the year 2009, and an African-American child of inter-racial parents no less, gave his lawyers the go ahead to compare our marriages to incest on the same day that 42 years ago the Supreme Court ruled in his parents' favor in Loving v. Virginia. And these people, along with our President, are suggesting that the appropriate response is to shrug our shoulders and go home, since, after all, the law is the law?

So, yes, I am advocating that we push the envelope and demand new and creative thinking on legal issues, on our civil and human rights. That's how change happens (there's that pesky word again). That's what we expect from our President who promised change, who promised to be a "fierce advocate" for our rights. Yesterday's homophobic brief would have met the expectations we had from George Bush (or Jerry Falwell). From President Barack Obama, it was an appalling betrayal of our humanity, and his own.

I'm sick of being separate, but equal. And it's now clear that many of you agree.

There are pathetic excuses flying about like "oh, President Obama couldn't have had any idea about what was in this brief." Um, that doesn't pass the smell test. They all knew multiple DOMA challenges were heading their way. Remember -- "they have a plan," right? Didn't I hear that somewhere? Oh, never mind.

Journalist Karen Ocamb asked Jon Davidson, Legal Director at Lambda Legal to comment on the brief and the choices the Obama DOJ had -- and decided to follow through with on this civil rights issue.

Whether or not the administration felt a need to defend, there are many ways one can defend.  The administration could have rested on the first two arguments raised in their papers (jurisdiction and standing) that these plaintiffs were not entitled to sue without arguing at this point that DOMA is constitutional.  Doing that would not have waived those arguments.  What they need to be asked is why they gratuitously went out of their way to make the outrageous arguments they unnecessarily included such as that DOMA does not discriminate based on sexual orientation or that the right at issue is not marriage but an unestablished right to "same-sex marriage" or that DOMA is somehow justified in order to protect taxpayers who don't want their tax dollars used to support lesbian and gay couples (while it's apparently fine to make lesbians and gay men pay the same taxes but be denied the benefits provided heterosexual couples).  Their public statements about the filing try to sidestep these points.  They absolutely knew they did not need to make these additional arguments, especially at this time and consciously decided to do so.  I am seething mad.
When will our progressive "friends" address this? We're waiting.

***

This reminds me of the charge levied against LGBTs by the black community -- that LGBTs don't care about social justice issues in the black community, then come around, not only asking for support on LGBT issues but also being chastised for the homophobia in the black church as if 1) all blacks are religious and 2) they are all homophobic. White privilege, like straight privilege, is a terrible blind spot that continues to exist because no one likes to talk about it (or are able to discuss it rationally). Progressives want LGBTs to be on board and promote their pet issues (and largely, we do), but when it comes down to the tough stuff on our issues -- and we need all the allies we can get -- they have a million excuses why it's not time, we don't have it bad enough, move along.

Soul-searching and looking in the mirror are something we should all do once in a while.

Related:
* What kind of leadership do we need?
* The godd*mn DOMA-loving Obama DOJ mess
* Video rewind: Obama asking for our support on the campaign trail
* The Obama admin defends DOMA in a brief comparing marriage equality to incest
* Watch one progressive bus run over Rachel Maddow and the LGBT community

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that diary was horrid
and I let the Obama apologists know it. People to think they're not strong supporters... but if this is the "support" they're willing to give -- I don't want it.  

amen!
I've posted about six times in response to things on that diary.  One person pleaded with me to be reasonable because after all, Obama is "sympathetic" to gays.  Fuck his sympathy.  Be patient?  Please!  The next well-meaning strayt "progressive" that tells me to be patient will be lucky if all I do is ask him to pay the hundreds of extra dollars in taxes we get slapped with for providing insurance to our family.  I was trying really hard to be patient, but unless he denounces the language used in that brief, I am DONE.

[ Parent ]
Another phrase for this might be....
I've posted about six times in response to things on that diary.  One person pleaded with me to be reasonable because after all, Obama is "sympathetic" to gays.

Compassionate liberalism?


[ Parent ]
assy
they are truly assy over @ dkos.

[ Parent ]
The only reason they call themselves "Progressives"
is that they're too cowardly to be Liberals -- as "Liberal" has been demonized so successfuly by the right and treated as such by the "Mainstream."

Since they won't stand up for themselves it's no surprise they won't stand up for us.

And when they say "Now I'm not homophobic" don't take so much as breath before saying "OH YES YOU ARE!!!!!"


That's not the only reason.
There was a point in the past where one could definitely say that there was a difference between "liberal" and "progressive" -- the difference between the corporate-capitalist center and the social-democratic center-left.  As soon as the term "progressive" started having broad positive connotations, corporate-supremacist liberal centrists like Obama quickly started appropriating the term.

(Of course, neither modern use of "progressive" is the same as the Progressive movement of the early 20th century -- words seem to get recycled in politics far more than clarity would encourage.)


[ Parent ]
The plan
"they have a plan," right?

The plan, as told to Joe Solmonese by the Obama administration: "We're gonna do nothing and hope for the best, OK?  We're too busy with other stuff, but we're with you in spirit."

Joe Somonese: "OK great, perfect!"


Unnecessary distraction
Any number of people, gay and straight, were accomplices and enablers, but we have no hope of turning this around at some point if we use buckshot trying to verbally hit as many as we can because of prior animosities toward them.

There's ONE person ORIGINALLY and ULTIMATELY reponsible for this and he lives at 1400 Pennsylvania Avenue.


[ Parent ]
Honey...
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

[ Parent ]
EEEK!
Mea maxima culpa. Alzheimer's is not for sissys!

[ Parent ]
No
I'll damn well hold Joe's feet to the flames if I please.  He's wholly deserving and it's not a distraction when one considers the position he's in going forward.

That said, I'm glad the HRC has FINALLY chastised the Obama administration after this debacle.


[ Parent ]
I posted my first diary on Daily Kos
because of the post noted here. I learned I'm a drive by asshole who wants to go back to the Bush/Cheney DOJ and just wanted to say homobigot and Obama apologist several times.

I did say Obama is a self-described bigot and made several references to Obama apologists. But the heck if someone who says they're opposed to marriage equality because of their faith is NOT a bigot - even if they REALLY support civil unions.

Pardon me while I whine... I live in Saddleback Church land and try to make the connection between racism, judeophobia etc. and homophobia. A bigot is a bigot. No one wants to be called a bigot, so I'm an asshole for pointing it out...

I also have no business telling the Gay Community what to do. Which of course, I'm not - I'm telling a politician to whom I gave money he's wrong (and a bigot).

Anyway, a lesson learned. Be careful who you consider a friend...  


The Left---and even the so-called New Left in the 60s and 70s--
has always been homophobic.  Their protestations of support nearly always ring hollow.

My college boyfriend and I were kicked out of an anti-Vietnam group on campus because we were open about our relationship.  "We don't want everyone to think our movement is a bunch of queers," we were told.  And this was a group that we had co-founded.

In the late 60 there was widespread left-wing animus (and even some boycotts) to a terrific British anti-establishment film called If... because it included a pair of gay lovers among its revolutionaries.  (The film is available on disc.  Do check it out, if you're not familiar with it.)

Etc., etc., down to this day.  "Liberals," by and large, are only liberal when it suits their own interests.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


Had similar experiences myself...
... though I guess my caustic personality [even then LOL] blocked the few who displayed any attitude about it.

You'll recall lesbians got the worst of it in the early women's movement, with feminist icon Betty Friedan a tireless gayhating witch, even coining the term "lavendar menace."


[ Parent ]
Lord, glad that I was in Spain
where I was the token straight feminist and even then, no one believed that I was or would remain straigjt...ooops, wait, they were right...

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

[ Parent ]
This Nails It!
"We don't want everyone to think our movement is a bunch of queers," we were told.



[ Parent ]
My side of the Left
seems to be more LGBT-positive.  Then again, that's the Left, as in socialists/anarchists/libertarian-socialists/anarcho-syndicalists/etc., not the corporate mainstream pseudo-Left.  Yeah, we deal with a lot of homophobes -- but our homophobes at least have the decency to recognize the basic "heterosexism/patriarchy/etc. is bad" principle and work on their privilege a bit.

[ Parent ]
Yeah, I think it really depends
Saying that ALL the left is homophonic is not true. The left is so fractured that painting with such a broad brush is not possible.

I should say that though that is isn't just the corporate mainstream liberals who might be unfriendly.

There is a...I guess I will called it a "strain" of leftism, of communists, of Marxists, of socialists, that views LGBT rights, feminism, women's rights, etc, as a "distraction", even a "distraction" manufactured by the right, a "distraction" from the far more important, to them, issues such as class, wealth inequality.

Not to mention, just because someone is on the left, does not mean that s/he isn't (very) regressive sexually.


[ Parent ]
The part of the left that isn't homophobic
-- is totally clueless whn it comes to GBLT issues.

[ Parent ]
Exactly...
I once belonged to a social/environmental justice group.  The head of the group needed my time, my energy and my influence to get a project off the ground.  When we got the go ahead and started working, I asked to include LGBT issues in the lineup.  Guess which of the many social issues did not get included in the two day program of speeches?  That's right.  LGBT issues.

[ Parent ]
The left changed for the better. Liberals and progressives just got worse.
If you're talking about progressives, who are often CPUSA Stalinists implementing their 'deep entry' strategy into the Democrat party, they are not part of the left. Neither are liberals. The Left wants to replace degenerate end stage capitalism - rule by the looter rich -with a democratic system. Liberals and progressives are under the illusion that the rich will roll over and give up and allow their wealth to be reformed out or existence. They are truly delusional.

The bigots you crossed swords with in the 60's and 70's could have Maoists or SDSers who were almost uniformly the children of the upper class or middle class aspirants. Bigotry towards GLBT folks and women was a trademark of their politics.

Even in the group I belonged to, which was the best on the left, homophobia took the form of saying "Oh, we loooove the gays, but they're susceptible to blackmail by the government." Stonewall put an end to that bullshit.  

For me the straw that broke the camels back was when by ex was physically assaulted by a bigot. The leadership asked me how I wanted it solved and I told them to expel his ass or put him in the ring with me. (I dabbled in Golden Gloves in high school to meet boys). They did neither and I quit as did a number of other talented GLBT folks at other times. One of them, Howard Wallace, was the key organizer in the Coors Boycott (irrespective of what they say in MILK) and a prime mover in founding Pride at Work, the AFL-CIOs GLBT constituent group. Howard first convinced me that socialist politics were best.

I'm sorry they were able to do that to you Q-Scribe; they did it to a lot of people. Now the Left is very much on our side and will be an invaluable ally and source of hardened political fighters when the time  

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


[ Parent ]
Guess this is what the religious right felt like when the repugs tried to give them the cold shoulder
Only the RR grabbed the RNC by the balls and is taking them for a ride down the drain.

Anyone for a tug on some Rahm and Barack balls?  We don't want to drag them down the drain, but that is what they seem to want to do to us.


Prediction
My guess is they'll try and cozy up to our community again by the end of the year because they'll want to pad their war chests for the 2010 mid-terms.

When they come calling, I intend to refer them to the brief they DIDN'T need to file and hang up the phone.


[ Parent ]
It doesn't exactly take a sharp prophet to make a prediction like that LOL
As soon as they want to reactivate the LGBT ATM, they'll be back, cooing about reconciliation.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
That will be an interesting phone call
I'll tell them in no uncertain terms to kiss my toned veteran lesbian ass.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

[ Parent ]
Donation requests...
I've committed to writing "no gay rights, no gay dollars" on any donation requests and mailing them back. I've spent a lot of years fighting for LGBT rights, through 2 full presidencies and now this one actually.  I'm tired of Dems and their faux-gressive allies telling me to wait for fundamental human rights or telling me that the struggle for my rights distracts from the "important" issues.    

[ Parent ]
Thanks Mel!
I LOVE your "no gay rights, no gay dollars" idea!

[ Parent ]
Soliciting donations
I wrote letters to my senators and congressman this weekend. I was following up on my barely-civil phone calls on Friday (what can I say -- I was at work and had to behave myself). I told them that I welcome their solicitations for donations in the future, because every time a Democrat asks me for money I will now make a donation to Equal Rights Washington, Equality California, Equality Maine, or some other group that actually works for the civil rights of GLBT Americans. (A tip o' he Howard hat to the Franken campaign for the idea.)

[ Parent ]
Well, we cozied up to a Centre-right Democrat
and look what we got for our pains...

And til we vote only for candiates that support us, putting us in the position of deal-makers for nomination, we will remain powerless, as opposed to the Reactionary Theocratic Right...

And tragically, that Right wing may be back in power in four years...

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


[ Parent ]
Thanks Pam
That was exactly what I was thinking and I'm happy I'm not the only one. I saw that DKos diary sitting there on the most recommended list and the title itself was already a joke.

Must Pave Our Own Way
I became disillusioned with politics several years ago because you have too many of the same old actors in high places. I believe that we the people have to make our voices heard and felt. I'm a volunteer for an organization that is working to create an independent media that address the concerns of poor and working people. This is the way we need to move-grassroots.    

To me too many people in high places are more interested in their own standing than they are doing the right thing.

Gennee


[ Parent ]
Never trust a power hungry man
Rahm Emmanuel for instance.  Obviously a brilliant and devious mind and so is his brother Ari Emmanuel, a power agent broker in Hollywood with progressive clients such as Michael Moore. Got there through dishonest dealings with former employer William Morris. David Geffen did the same thing.  Where the fuck is Geffen during this fight ?  They want more power.  It is a disease.  It's a fact of life.  They have no ethics.

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.

One more thought
For an administration that prides itself on being on message, what message is the Obama DOJ sending to the community?

up yours is the message
Once I was young and impulsive
I wore every conceivable pin
Even went to the socialist meetings
Learned all the old union hymns
But I've grown older and wiser
And that's why I'm turning you in
So love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal.
-- Phil Ochs


[ Parent ]
BRAVO!!!!
We've disagreed before but anyone who is familiar with the singer and the song whose tagline I've used countless times for the last 40 years can't be all bad.  LOL

I've read Ochs turned out to be gay but haven't been able to find any documentation...any data?


[ Parent ]
I really don't think
that Phil was gay.  His biographies are in storage along with the rest of my life, but I recall an account of whoring his way across Australia.

[ Parent ]
DKos is full of left-wing lunatics
who refuse to look at Obama as anything other than perfect -- needless to say, their main worry is to worship "The Messiah".

I'm referring to some members, not all
I have to clarify that...

[ Parent ]
Been saying THAT since the primaries
To paraphrase an old S,N! commentary, Kossacks have their head so far up Obama's ass that if he were actually gay it would be a religious experience for everyone involved.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

[ Parent ]
LOL
I'm waiting to see their reactions when "The Messiah" fails them. The real fun will begin.

[ Parent ]
it was the same during KERRY
thats when i bailed on DKos...if you so much as suggested that perhaps Kerry wasnt campaigning forcefully enough, you would be attacked as a troll.

so many people there are actually operatives, part of the DC machine, & they do not want the status quo rocked too much, one way or the other.


[ Parent ]
Bit of a contradiction there...
Obama has never been anything resembling a candidate that the left wing could get behind.  DKos is much more broadly inhabited by corporate-centrist Democratic Party hacks.

[ Parent ]
If you think that DKos is left wing,
I have no idea how you will read some of the sites frequented by socialists, marxists, anarchists, left libertarians, or even just social democrats.

DKos is not left wing. It is a centrist, slightly left of centre site that whose ideology is Party. The Democratic Party.


[ Parent ]
Stop!
Don't go down this path.  We ALL want to believe that Obama is not homophobic.  For many of us it is a process of many steps to recognize that he IS homophobic.  

Hell, I don't want to believe it and I have been calling him a homophobe ever since his 'separate but equal' solution for us called civil unions.

That said, EVERY progressive/liberal straight person I have personally spoken with about this is appalled by Obama over this SCOTUS case.  

The Obama defenders will always have a lot of excuses - not enough time, plate too full, your time isn't just yet, he has to do this for politics, etc, and each of those excuses is offensive.

But we need to focus upon Obama and the Democrats right now.  Our friends will eventually tag along with us.

We just need to pave the way.  


If this is true...
That said, EVERY progressive/liberal straight person I have personally spoken with about this is appalled by Obama over this SCOTUS case.  

Then they have a responsibility to step up, get off their sofa, and do something, call the White House, call their Senators, call their Congressmen, and "put up or shut up."


[ Parent ]
What "We ALL want to believe" has nothing to do with the truth
He's a 'phobe.

[ Parent ]
He believes that homophobia is an acceptable prejudice
though he himself is only mildly homophobic, using his "God in the mix" as the rationale, in a secular republic, yet...

Would Lyndon Johnson have invited segregationalist Jerry Falwell to give his inagural invocation on the basis of "being inclusive?"

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


[ Parent ]
My fear is MUCH bigger than that...
It's not just LGBT issues that he approaches like a Campfire Girl trying to earn her Kumbaya Badge. He imagines he can get the Israelis and the Muslim World to kiss and makeup with his pretty words and that all the Taliban needs is a hug.

[ Parent ]
Not quite...
He thinks he can get Israel to bow down and kiss Muslim ass.  I'm for a two-state solution and opposed to the settlements, but even I was appalled at Obama whitewashing the history of Arab-Jewish relations to make it seem that Israel was the sole offender and all the Arabs did was say mean things like that the Holocaust never happened.  Not to mention his whitewashing women's issues by focusing on the hijab, education and microcredit while ignoring the execution of 13 year old rape victims and gang rapes against women as punishment for the offenses of their male relatives.  Absolutely disgusting.  Of course, we can't expect him to do what Clinton did and acknowledge the ongoing genocide against LGBT people in the Arab world.

[ Parent ]
I beagn posting at Kos a few days ago
That diary was downright despicable. It's like, don't vent, never say anything bad or critical about Obama.

I get the same thing on huffington post too.

It's almost like when a white person really doesn't get the white privilege thing. Occasionally they get defensive or they strike back and you almost have to shake them and say, "You really don't get it, do you?"

It's the same way with gay people on Kos. No matter how much you virtually shake them up, straight Kossacks (and straight people generally) don't get it.

And (maybe it's just me) the entire idea that I have to explain myself in that manner is kinda demeaning if you ask me.


My bad!
This should read...

It's the same way with straight people on Kos. No matter how much you virtually shake them up, straight Kossacks (and straight people generally) don't get it.

From a "race" perspective I understand it perfectly.



[ Parent ]
I get it
A gay friend of mine that posts alot on Kos downplayed Obama's statement regarding marriage on Rick Warren's interview, this one, "God is in the mix".  He ignored the statement as if it was not important.

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.

[ Parent ]
Maybe this time
a few more clueless white gay men (like, um...me) will make the same logical leap and start to "get" race in some basic way.

[ Parent ]
Pam's right...
Much of this DOJ betrayal comes from the cozy, clueless world of Straight Privilege.

When there are still GAY Obots defending him after he's repeatedly thrown us under the bus and backed up and forward and back again over us several times who can be surprised that the Kinsey ZEROs are still singing his praises with a sippy cup of Kool Aid in one had and a straight razor in the other.

Obama hasn't tried to take away any of THEIR rights. One of the names on the DOJ brief is former California attorney Tony West, married with an adult daughter. Before becoming an FOB [Barack this time, tho he also worked for Bill] and a huge fundraiser for him, he was best known for defending he silly, young "American Taliban" guy, which, I have no problem with. BUT, neither his or his wife's name can be found among donors against Prop H8TE. Given he was a MOFO partner [whose chair is gay] before going to DOJ and, thus, probably pulled in a good $1 million a year, that, as they say, speaks VOLUMES.

The inmates are running the Kos asylum and anyone trying to talk sense to them would have better luck teaching Sanskrit to a zombie.

When y'all hit critical mass there you'll be Kos-banned just like it happened during the primaries.


[ Parent ]
Just gave dKos my first diary attempt to.
I tried to take a deep breath and pull in both some things I think we need to do on our side of the fence, and call them out on some things they need to start doing, too.

We'll see what happens.  I'm not optimistic.

--j

(over there as "Looking for Mauve")


[ Parent ]
Gay is where White Privilege hits the wall
Say the words, take a stand and find out what it's like to be a Nigger !

[ Parent ]
Been there done that!
I was forced to use the back door of a facility that held a campus GLBT group, because some were "offended" I came in as Marlene.

I wonder how many privileged gay men would stand for that, let along a protected minority?

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[ Parent ]
This gal
would have walked right beside you through the front door. And opened up an industrial-sized can of "Louise's Patented Whoop-Ass" to serve to anyone who objected...

Privilege? Yeah, I've got plenty- it came free with being born white and straight. Alot of folks think they need to hide and protect theirs; I'm trying my darnedest to share it!

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[ Parent ]
I refused to surrender my old straight priviledge
which is why I live overtly out.

And I want all of us to have it, but the only way to have it is to seize it.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


[ Parent ]
Oy...
So many thoughts...

First, yes there are plenty of people on the left who are fair-weather friends when it comes to our rights.  It's always "not just yet" or "be patient" or "there are lots of things going on".  There are always lots of things going on for an administration.  The economy will never be just right.  There will be foreign wars or other problems.  There will be urgent domestic issues that need attention.  As much as I dislike LBJ for the clusterf**k of Vietnam, he was willing to strongarm legislators to get the Civil Rights acts passed, and he did it at considerable risk to his political future.

Second, there is a hidden homophobia on the left that expresses itself in fag jokes and dismissive comments about our concerns (always sounds like "oh those silly queens are getting uppity again don't they know have to wait their turn" to me).

Third, I learned long ago not to trust politicians of any party (I grew up in the age of LBJ and Nixon), but this is the first time I've felt personally kicked in the groin by one.  Arguably the administration is right to defend DOMA at the trial court level, but doing it with a brief that could have been written by the demon spawn of Jerry Falwell, James Hartline, Peter LaBarbera just hurts.

Finally, this is the reason I don't identify with any political movement.  As a gay man, I can't in good conscience be a conservative, but as long as progressives are willing to stomp on me and grind my head into the pavement I can't in good conscience identify as progressive either.


Eh.
What you say of the left can equally be said of any large fractured disparate group. Especially one as fractured and disparate as the left: marxists, socialists, progessives, social democrats, liberals, syndicalists, anarchists, left libertarians, left enviromentalists. Etc.

Even just one of those "isms" contains various strains of thought.


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Democrats are not part of the Left.
They're right centrists and of course many of them are bigots. They're following the lead of Obama, the Clintons, Barney Frank (who's a homophobe, not a homobigot), Kennedy, Pelosi and etc. Then there's the pair of ordained pentecostal bigots who ran much of Obama's campaign, Rev. Josh Dubois, and Rev. Leah Daughtry who runs the DNC. Dubois is not in charge of bribing pulpit pimps with 'faith based' grants in exchange for political support for Obama. He's Karl Rove Jr.

Don't let your confusion about the 'left' be an excuse not to build and support marches and demonstrations to demand our equality or to work with the real left, as opposed to right centrist hustlers and bigots.

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


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The Demcrats have become
what the Republicans used to be--pro-business, pro-money pro-status quo, pro-bigotry-as-political-tool.  The GOP has become so far right they're off the radar for most Americans, but the Democrats have rushed to fill the void they left.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


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Why wait for someone else to liberate you?


My dad was a steelworker
My mom was a kitchen girl
and that's why
I'm a socialist.
-from an old song I used to hum to myself


Why wait for someone else to liberate you?
When you can liberate yourself?

Donate to the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund. Heterosexual progressives will be progressive about everything except GLBT issues.

Vote for your own kind. Stop waiting for straight America to free you.

Free yourself.

My dad was a steelworker
My mom was a kitchen girl
and that's why
I'm a socialist.
-from an old song I used to hum to myself


Don't vote for any Democrat or Republican.
They do what they're told by the bigots who run those parties. Barney Frank's treason in gutting ENDA is just one example of many. Barbara Mikulski voted for DOMA. Tammy Baldwin voted for the gutted version of ENDA that deliberately denies rights to transpeople.

Elected gays and lesbians in the Democratic Party need to get out and help build a party that fights for equality. If they don't they're worse than worthless. They're collaborators in our oppression.  

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


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Amen 1000 times over
Pam, this is one of the best diaries I've read on the Obama DOJ's appalling DOMA brief.  Keep I agree 1000% with everything you've said; you express much of the reasoning behing all the anger I'm feeling right now.  It's convenient to say "now is not the time" and "just be patient" when it's not your rights at issue.  And haven't we been hearing the same thing from our so-called progressive "friends" for, like, forever?

Light
I'm a straight radical left guy. I started to read LGBT blogs pretty much like you read model railroading magazines or bass player magazines, thinking "what's that like?"

As time went by I read more, i made some friends,  and started commenting.  And after a while I started saying "we" but I felt funny about it. I remembered the times I let people down, and I know I'm a really shitty ally. I've even said, you shouldn't trust me.

But when Obama started doing shitty things like pallin' around with Rick Warren and appointing an anti-choice, anti-contraception uber-Catholic to the faith based programs office, I began to lose my feeling of investment in Obama.

But when I heard about the California cases brief, it hit me like a hammer. I wrote a hugely angry letter to him, and I told my Congressman who had earlier voted against the hate crimes bill that he should think about returning home to the Deep South and leave the running of America to Americans.

I read the story about Obama writing an excuse for the little girl named Kennedy and the first thing to cross my mind was fuck that, and fuck him.

That's when the light lit. I'd connected on the level of feeling. you don't do shit like that to my friends. It's wrong.  

I have to go back now and tell other straight people how a really shitty ally can make that connection, and they need to do that too.

And if the reaction of the LGBT people hereto all of this is a big FU, I don't care. Wanted or not, I know what the right thing to do is, and I have to do it.

What a day, what a day for an auto-da-fe


Wish I could give this a 5.
When I saw that lil moment with the cute kid Kennedy (Green Bay, wasn't it?), all I could think was Maura Hennessey is absolutely right- there should be people at these town halls meetings standing up and asking about ENDA, DOMA and DADT.

If he comes up this way with one of these photo ops, I'm gonna ask!

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I agree word for word
as a 50+ straight, married, far left female.

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If you're surprised, then you must not have been paying attention
Not only was this predictable, it was inevitable.

Have you folks been asleep since the primaries or something?

I hate to say it, but I feel vindicated after getting eviscerated for calling Obama an anti-queer bigot back in December. ALl I did was point out the facts and I got mauled by a bunch of Obamaniacal homos.

If you check out my posts over at Queers Against Obama, you'll see a photograph of Obama participating in an anti-queer protest with Westboro Baptist Church.

I don't hafta say I told ya so.  My time-stamped posts criticizing Obama since his inauguration speak for themselves.  


Yes they,have
And I've read your site from time to time too! Good work!

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You're not the only one
Back in October, I sent this letter to the Obama/Biden campaign headquarters, and answered phone calls from local Dem organizations with, "Kiss my queer ass, you're not getting my money."

Been to your site before, and I love it. I'm snagging the video of "Ten Questions Never To Ask A Transperson" for re-posting on my own blog.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


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No, as Keori says, you're not alone
A number of us here have been warning about Obama since primary season last year, and we've been soundly and repeatedly vilified for our trouble.  To my knowledge, none of us have had the bad grace to say "I told you so, Dummies!" but the satisfaction of being proved right so early in this administration is satisfying indeed--for what it's worth.  I would much rather have been proved wrong.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


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Patrick, Q and I
used to take a beating here for suspecting that Obama was hurting us pre-election.

I posted that I only voted for him in the General election after taking a couple of stiff Jemmies and holding my nose...Donnie McCLurkin and "god is in the Mix" during the prop 8 struggle turned me off Obamania.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


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Now they are FRONT PAGING
their defense of Obama.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyo...

And it is always the same posters - the ones who defend him on technical grounds on this are the same ones that defend him on technical grounds on DADT and UAFA and every other
FU to the GLBT community.

And they always see each issue in isolation, and refuse to see a pattern.

A tipping point will come - perhaps at different times for each of us, but it will come - when we realize that our "fierce advocate" has no intention of exerting an iota of political capital to fulfill his campaign promises to gays.

And for each tipping point, dKos will be there defending him for that one act, and telling gays that they are being selfish single issue hysterics.


Well, dKos is also single issue
The issue being getting the Democratic Party in power, getting the Democratic Party ever more power.

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operatives
so many people there are actually operatives, PART of the DC machine, staffers & such, & they do NOT want to see the status quo change that much, one way or the other.

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Chaz Bono and Adam Lambert
The comments on various news and celebrity sites about the experiences of these two celebrities are very telling. In essence, they think we're all freaks and we wonder why America doesn't want to give us our rights. Because of Chaz Bono and Adam Lambert.


dont be blamin' Chaz or Adam!
tsk, dont be blamin' Chaz or Adam for being true to themselves; blame the media for focusing only on the sensational.

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Chaz and Adam are not freaks...
Transphobia and attacks on those who are gender noncomforming amongst gay people are no better than the homophobia of our supposed progressive/liberal allies.  It's just ignorant.  To a homophobe, you could be a raging queen or a bulldyke or a transexual or a straight-looking, straight-acting lesbian.  It doesn't matter.  You're still a freak because you sleep with people of the same sex or don't conform to the heteronormative, patriarchal model of acceptability.  Stop letting the homophobes divide our community.

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Freaks?
Oh hell no.

From what I recall, they didn't want to give us our rights LONG before yesterday, when Chaz Bono came out as a transman.

I seem to recall anti-gay discrimination predating the last season of American Idol, too.

Perhaps the country is already transphobic and homophobic, and they're receiving the brunt of it because they dare to be visible?

How about we put the blame on people who mistake victims of homophobia for causes of it, like yourself?


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gay apologist comment in Blade article

Read this gay apologist's delusional take in the Blade:
Robert Raben, a former U.S. assistant attorney general for legislative affairs under President Clinton who's gay, said a motion to dismiss a case targeting a federal law isn't unusual because "the Department of Justice doesn't have standing to decide which statutes they will or won't defend."

But Raben noted that the Justice Department makes a number of statements in its filing to show empathy toward gay married couples and to be sensitive to Obama's pledge to repeal DOMA.

"Some of it's really sensitive and they've gone out of their way to ... say gay marriage can be a great thing," he said. "I really was impressed that the Department of Justice that I used to work at used such supportive and sensitive language."

He noted that the brief starts by saying that in recent years some states have granted gay couples "the freedom to marry as a basic civil right."

"They didn't have to describe marriage that way," he said. "The freedom to marry? They're using our language. It's fantastic."

But Raben noted that after the introduction, the Justice Department goes on to "say really stupid things."

Wow. Saying Loving v. Virginia doesn't apply goes beyond "stupid". That brief laid out nearly every fundie argument that dehumanizes us.

Loving doesn't necessarily apply
Don't know how many times I can say this Pam: Loving v. Virginia has ALREADY BEEN dismissed by certain courts as setting a precedent for gay marriage.

This is NOT in the bag people. Loving does NOT guarantee our right to marry (unless the SCOTUS decides that it does).

That said, I really don't see how anyone can think any part of this brief was actually "supportive and sensitive" to gays. WTF??????


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You say the Truth then ignore it!
I'll keep saying this until people get it, including you, Eshto.

This discussion, inclusing ALL discussions about gay rights before 90% of courts has NOTHING to do with "merits" or "standing" or "constitutionality" or how well a plaintiff's case is or is not written. It's not "law" at all but theo-sociology.

Until they are occupied by judges NOT driven by their own bigotries they will, as DOJ just has, consciously turn law and common sense inside out to justify ignoring "law" to perpetuate the religiously driven status quo.

Cases challenging the 60+ year old ban on gays in the military have been the most blunt about this, for example, Justice Kennedy writing when he was on the Court of Appeals that despite the ban's obvious conflict with normal constitutional protections and rights what the military says is good for them TRUMP them all.

There is a case for that in times of war, but not in normal times which we were when he used that justificaton to affirm gay discharges.

Gay black civil rights icon Bayard Rustin said over 20 years ago that "gays are the new 'niggers'." In cases involving gay unions or military service we are but 2009 multiracial reincarnations of Dred Scott.

You should have just left your comment to "unless the SCOTUS decides that it does."  


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thinkprogress
i'm disappointed that thinkprogress isnt even acknowledging it.

"panties in a wad"
so i brought up the DOMA brief @ ThinkProgress & was told i had my "panties in a wad".

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dang!
i have been part of that community for a long time & its freakin' me out that they have ZERO interest in this!

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No allies here
I hate to be defeatist, but as a middle age gay man I don't see any significant progress for GLBT rights in the United States for the foreseeable future.

We keep giving our support to the Democrats because we have nowhere else to turn.  The Democrats take our money, time, and votes.  They make grandiose promises to work for gay equality.  But once they get into office, they typically ignore GLBT rights issues at best.  Now we get a President who spoke very eloquently as a candidate about GLBT equality, but who now has shown that he is not just ignoring our plight but he is actively working against GLBT people.

It's time to get out.  I think the best thing for many gay people in the United States would be to find a different country to live.  Sure, that hurts the gay rights movement here.  But 40 years after the Stonewall riots, and we still have the kind of crap that Obama's DOJ lawyers issued in defense of DoMA.  Time is too short.  We have no allies here.


Words Fail
For the homosexual community alone there is not enough I can say to convey to aleviate the pain you feel. Betrayal is always the worst of emotional crimes against the soul.
it's time to get up and keep fighting. I can only speak for myslef but I am still w/ you.

You could start
by not saying "the homosexual community," for one. That sounds like an awfully bigoted sentiment.

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disagree, as a member of the homosexual
community, I'd say the phrase is inartful, GBLT is definitely preferred, but "bigoted" is probably overkill. (Particularly, since we among ourselves can't decided if the approved moniker is "queer" GBLT, LGBT, LABGQTXOL....)

The overall seniment of g2k's posts is sympathy and support, so calling g2k by implication a "bigot" probably doesn't help move this forward for our community.


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That's not g2k I was responding to
first of all. And second, maybe you need to refer to this post

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...

I said that the "sentiment" was bigoted, not that  Robert M himself was.

I sensed the friendliness in his tone also, but that phrase does carry sound like it's carrying an awful lot of hetero privilege


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DailyKos is not "progressive" their mission
is to elect democrats, not progressives. In my experience there (pretty extensive over the last year) maybe 50% are on board with GBLT rights. There's about 5-10% that are full on hostile; "Democrats better wash teh gay off them!" and another 40% who are content to toss GBLT under the bus, either with glee or regret, matters not.

But when it comes to GBLT & Obama, a huge percentage of them have their head completely up their ass about Obama. Mention something critical on this issue and you're in for a chorus that would make Chris Cocker proud, "Leave Obama alone! Leave him alone!!!!!!"


Obama strategy
There seem to be two reasonable theories about Obama's LGBT strategy:

1. He's throwing the LGBT community under the bus, to one degree or another, for political reasons.

2. He's got a subtle plan for advancing LBGT rights, and it involves setting things in motion and getting out of the way of progress (where someone like Bush would actively stand in the way).

Whichever theory you prefer, raising hell about the DOMA issue is the correct response. Either Obama has abandoned his promises (in which case it's time to hold his feet to the fire) or his strategy depends on us to push in response to the red flag he has just waved.

(I'm seriously hoping it's the latter, but there is as yet very little to go on. The point is that we don't have to work out whether Obama is helping or hindering; the proper response is the same -- and don't let any pseudoliberals get away with claiming otherwise.)


Look at your W-2's
Look at all of those taxes taken out of your paycheck.

Now look in the mirror and tell yourself that YOUR OWN COUNTRY thinks you deserve LESS rights that Joey Buttafuco, Rudi Giuliani, and Rush Limbaugh - those champions of morality.

I'll continue to advocate a TAX REVOLT during the next 20 years, and hope we stop trying the same old tactics for political/social attention again and again and again.

Can you imagine the FEDS and I.R.S. having to deal with the prospects of jailing people like Ellen, Rosie, Suze, or ____ (famous LGBTQ) due to a united tax revolt?    

Decades MORE of Psychological Abuse? - OR - Stonewall.  Nationwide.  NOW!


PS
Self-Employment is always best.

Don't give away your power.

:-)

Decades MORE of Psychological Abuse? - OR - Stonewall.  Nationwide.  NOW!


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