The latest on the flailing gay DNC fundraiser as more attendees drop out

Ideas

Donate to Equality Maine to defeat the upcoming referendum.

https://secure.ga4.org/01/eqme...

Then save your receipt as a .pdf, and send it to all your local Democratic Party critters. I am printing out a copy to send to each one of my Democratic state Representatives and Senators, and to the Democratic Party HQ here in Hawaii, with a note saying that I'm sending my money out of state to an equality organization rather than give it to their campaigns after their pathetic, miserable, cowardly failure to stand up to christian hate groups and pass civil unions this year.

Screw the Democrats. Support equality instead, and tell the lying cowards where your donations are going and why.


God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

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by: Keori @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 05:40:01 AM CDT

Good Idea

My suggestion, being the pet owner I am, is to instead donate to a local dog/cat shelter.  Pets don't discriminate, and are more deserving of your $$$ than the DNC and HRC.

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by: bluegrassfool @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 06:58:29 AM CDT

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Extraordinary, painful personal courage...

We must applaud Corbins' extraordinary, and no doubt personally painful, courage in so fiercely and publicly criticizing not just his friend's husband, but his own friend since college.

Now we look forward to similar courage after he sees the light about Obama's refusal to stop DADT discharges which he [Corbin] defended on television just last week.

The flames of the inferno that erupted after the DOJ's DOMA brief have obscured people's memories that just four days before that the DOJ defended DADT in another legal brief using the same homophobic arguments that were used by Sam Nunn and his henchmen to pass DADT in the first place.

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IN MEMORIAM

LEONARD MATLOVICH

JULY 6, 1943 - JUNE 22, 1988

"When I was in the military they gave me a medal for killing two men and a discharge for loving one."

NEVER FORGET.

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by: Michael Bedwell @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 09:53:15 AM CDT

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Wish you could have been here this morning

The WaPo editorial by Gen. Shakishvili generated some discussion on the watch floor today. The sentiment from a bunch of Navy O-3s was, "Just get rid of the damn policy already, it stinks, it's stupid, and we don't care."

When I told them about the DOMA brief, and the pathetic, limp-dicked federal benefits response, a few of them let loose with the trademark strings of invective that gave rise to the phrase, "swearing like a sailor."

I wish you could have been a fly on the wall for that conversation, Michael. You would have smiled. :)

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

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by: Keori @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:12:05 PM CDT

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Flailing DNC LGBT Fundraiser

Finally, the leadership of the groups are standing up to a White House that has avoided our community at every turn until they have been repudiated for this insulting and demeaning legal brief filed in defense of DOMA. The Presidential memorandum offering a pittance of benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees, if intended as a ploy to "calm the waters" is a tremendous miscalculation by this White House. Indeed, it is more enraging that they have tried to "buy" us off. No official liaison to the community; no real engagement on the issues, even if HRC has access, we have no choice but to boycott and go into the streets. I agree with Pam, we should not wait until October to protest--NOW, I feel the urgency of NOW to voice my most vociferous protest.  

Tanya

"Well behaved women never make history."

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by: CaptainAlpha12 @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 06:48:18 AM CDT

please click through

and read the actual details about Jared Polis.  The post here makes it sound like he showed much more impressive support than he actually did.

It was first reported on AmericaBlog that he "boycotted" the signing.  Then his office made sure to contact AmericaBlog to explain he did NOT BOYCOTT the event.  He was invited to the event, but was just very busy and had to go play in a congressinoal baseball game.

I wouldn't characterize what his office has stated as "turning down" an invitation for any substantive reason.  It sounds more like he would have been perfectly happy to attend if he didn't have a previous "baseball" game committment.

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by: timNC @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 07:04:13 AM CDT

Hmm, I don't know...

In most situations, what politician would prefer to play a baseball game when he could be on TV standing behind the president? I wonder if the party leadership called up Polis and told him, "you find an excuse other than 'boycott' or no more party money for you!"

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by: cbear @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 08:06:21 AM CDT

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Sounds like Frank is leaning on Polis

Polis is in the dog house for not going to the White House on Wednesday night.  No wonder his office had Aravosis update the language...a boycott would make it sound like there is strife.  Polis simply was busy...

Bullshit...Polis is pissed.  We read his statement.

He can be swayed.  

Polis does not want to go to that fund raiser next week.  It is crystal clear to me.  But Barney Frank doesn't like it when people speak their minds and stand up for themselves and against the Party.  The Party is everything to Frank.

C'mon Jared...you know you want to ditch this mess.  Don't associate your (still) good name and reputation with Frank's moblike mentality.  

Be your OWN man, Jared.  Stand up for yourself!  

Stand up for US.

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by: Patrick @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 09:57:57 AM CDT

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Even more...

Polis is in the doghouse for voting against the war funding bill.

Obama threatened all freshman Democratic Congressmen who voted against the wars.

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by: Jim @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:25:09 AM CDT

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some OBAMA™ person posted...

some OBAMA™ person posted @ dkos that, since "gays supported HILARY™", OBAMA™ feels no obligation.

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by: grover nerdkissed @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 07:35:01 AM CDT

Yeah, I saw that on another blog (not dKos)

along with the race card (again) being played.  

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 08:24:44 AM CDT

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At this point...

I don't think that he should feel obligated. As I've said before, they should cancel the event. There are PLETNY of constituencies that would love to have the VP attend.

At this point, I think that the administration should just move on. Its clear that they are dealing with a constituency that can't be reasoned with and totally indifferent to the rest of the agenda. That's just fine. The point now is to work with people that you know that you can actually work with to achieve reasonable goals in a reasonalbe time frame.

The great shame of all of this is that the President will find that its probably easier to work with opponents that understand compromise and priorities than with former allies that only want what they want NOW and to hell with everyone else.

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by: SciFi Geek @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:30:23 AM CDT

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But they don't know the constietuency

And that's part of the problem

Look, I think it's as easy as some sort of acknowledge that the brief went way over the line, some sort of timeline for working on various issues, and regular progress reports. And no silly as jokes.

The amend for the brief would go a long way, actually.

The other part of the problem is that other than Frank Kameny, there was no one in that room representing many angry people, say, in the Blend. That's the part the Administration really doesn't get, I think.

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:38:45 AM CDT

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"acknowledgement"

By the way, whie it could come from the President, I know the significance of maintaining separation of the White House and the Justice Department. Put it in Eric Holder's hands.

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:40:31 AM CDT

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"while"

wow! Spelling is very off, today!

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:41:10 AM CDT

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Remeber OBAMA's own 'joke' ... at the LA fundraiser...

Where a demonstration headed by Lt. Dan Choi was out front with signs asking him to remember 'Promises'... Huh, he says 'Which Promises?'   Does that mean he made too many to remember...or he really didnt' ever remember promising to do away with DADT?

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 11:18:21 AM CDT

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There is no

consensus that the Brief did go over the line. The problem here is, again, people are judging the brief based on pure emotion rather than logical legal precedent. The Brief merely restates the establish argument used to justify the existance of DOMA in the first place. It factually states precedents for the policy. It may not make people FEEL good that those arguments exists and have been successful, but that is the precedent.

Its a legal brief written in cold legal language.

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by: SciFi Geek @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 11:46:47 AM CDT

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In fact

it wasn't even that cold. Or I should say it was warmer than usual recognizing gay marriages granted by the states as legitimate and good.  

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by: Jay @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 11:58:42 AM CDT

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OBVIOUSLY the vast majority of LGBTs from a broad range took this brief PERSONALLY

This is more Obama apologists, and blow all the smoke up my a$$ ya want, and repeatedly state it was just unfortunate choice of words.
It comes down to OUR FAMILIES being compared to cousin-f*ckers....and that tends to bring out some EMOTIONS.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 12:00:36 PM CDT

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Not in your mind that is...There is major concensus the brief was over the line.

I guess you don't mind your personal relationship being equivalent to pedophilia and incest.  Congratulations.  

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by: Karen in Kalifornia @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 12:16:06 PM CDT

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Do you read Rod 2.0?

Go and read the thread on this brief. I assume that most of that readership is black gay men and there is outrage on that thread, even the one that say they would still vote for Obama.

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 14:26:58 PM CDT

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Every lawyer that I know

straight or gay, felt that the brief went way over the line and the the arguments were not on point either.

There is no purpose to putting arguments of the nature of the ones included into the brief when they are not on point except to cater to the worst in bigots.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:10:45 PM CDT

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Obama swore to uphold and defend the Constitution

but you don't think he should "feel obligated" to do that, either, do you?  He should find people who want to compromise that, too, right?

Do you ever get tired of having yourself around?

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  

-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:42:21 AM CDT

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I definately

think that he should uphold and defend the Constitution. That is precisely why I think he SHOULD feel obligated to defend the law. The entire purpose of the executive brance is to carryout the laws enacted by congress. It is NOT their job to decide which laws they will or will not enforce. I consider that totally inappropriate and ultimately unconstitutional behaviour. YOU seem to think that the DOJ should simply ignore laws that they don't like. So, you must then find it perfectly acceptable that the Bush Administration flouted the law on a regular basis. How are going to feel about a GOP, DOJ not defending laws against discrimination? A truly law abiding government and leadership should NEVER feel like it is ok to simply dismiss laws simply because they object to them.

Besides, you are working on the premise that the WH thinks that DOMA is unconstitutional. It is not contradictory to think that the law is legitimate under the Constitution and yet still advocate for the repeal.  

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by: SciFi Geek @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 11:43:02 AM CDT

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Obama said multiple times during the campaign

that he thinks both DOMA and DADT are unconstitutional and should therefore be repealed.  If you feel so honor-bound to defend him, it might be helpful if you had a clue what he's said and done.  Or do you simply think he's a pathological liar?  (If so, I'd be more than slightly inclined to agree with you for the first time.)

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  

-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 12:01:30 PM CDT

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he SAID it!!!

"Besides, you are working on the premise that the WH thinks that DOMA is unconstitutional."

HE SAID IT DURING THE CAMPAIGN!!!!
its not a premise, or alleged, HE SAID IT!!!!

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by: grover nerdkissed @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 13:36:57 PM CDT

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But he didn't mean it, besides, God is in the mix

and God is a homophobe who delivers more votes

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:12:16 PM CDT

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Stampp Corbin

The Stampp Corbin editorial is a huge deal. Not only did he work on the campaign, he's been friends with Michelle since they were both kids.

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by: cbear @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 08:07:36 AM CDT

Craig Ferguson Nailed Him

Last night Craig talked (joked) about Hillary breaking her elbow and went on about Sotomayor breaking her ankle.  Then he said about things happening in 'threes' so someone else in politics was probably going to break something -- like the President breaking campaign promises.  Followed with Mr. Obama, if you don't ask me I won't tell!

I don't have the wording correct but its close.  I almost fell out of my chair!

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by: The Woodrow @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 08:29:24 AM CDT

The only problem is...

...Obama has broken way more than one promise.

Maybe 3³ = 27 promises?

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by: Jim @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:29:55 AM CDT

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I adore Ferguson

He's way smarter than the average TV comedian, at his best he's sidesplittingly funny, and he has the most aggressively gay-friendly show I've ever seen on network TV.  He's taken heat from CBS and some viewers for being too gay friendly, but he just thumbs his nose and keeps at it.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  

-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:46:18 AM CDT

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What the hell is with GMHC and NBJC?

What don't they understand about what's going on?  How can NBJC, of all groups, support this bigotry?  And I'm really disappointed the Keith Boykin is still on the list of attendees.  I've always thought he was one of the smartest, savviest spokesmen we have.  He needs to pull the hell out of this thing.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  

-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 10:50:00 AM CDT

Maybe

NBJC does not think that the community that it serves would be pleased with them bowing out. Maybe they have some issues with the idea of publically spitting on the first balck president, and recognize that in doing so they ailenate themselves from the very people who's minds they seek to change. Maybe they understand that their community has needs that extend well beyond DOMA.

Maybe they recognize that the President's support could be critical to changing minds in a way that the usual white gay elite cannot understand. Or perhaps, seeing as how they represent a frequently alienated and dispised minority of a minority, they get that turning your allies into enemies is counterproductive. Maybe they think that by being there they can have a positive impact on the administration. Maybe they don't want to be seen as being pushed around by the white elite that is making the most of this noise.

If they do attend, I applaud them for being there to represent those of us not represented by the spoiled privilledged elite.  

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by: SciFi Geek @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 14:14:35 PM CDT

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But Geek

You and I are in Chicago, so we have known Obama for years.

Obama never went around the African American community as if he were a preacher or anyting, quite the contrary, he was considered to be a part of the Hyde Park establishment. Trinty UCC is a pro-gay and, yes, pro black church.

This particular element in the African American church is not Obama's thing, or at least it hasn't been.

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 14:24:34 PM CDT

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And I agree that

its not his thing. Which is why I find the mind reading concering his position rather odd. But that has nothing to to with the attendance of the NBJC. They DO have to deal with the wide spectrum of views in the community.

Truth is, as I've said before, I have very little sympathy for the spoiled elite that have decided that this is the MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE WORLD and that it must be dealt with now. My empathy for them is definately not what it used to be. Irregardless, the point has always been that this is not some crisis that has to be put on the front burner right now. There are already news reports that the Administration is stretched too thin and that they need to focus on fewer issues right now. To have the LGBT activits pushing to add not one but 3 or 4 more items to the pile is disturbing. I'm of the opinion that they need to focus on dowing a few things well, rather than trying to handle everything poorly. I do belive that they are trying to do too much to fast while dealing with a perpetually fractious congress that has a split personality and does not have a clue what it really wants.

People keep pointing out that the President said that he can multi-task. Well there comes a point in which you take on so many tasks that they all start to suffer from neglect.

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by: SciFi Geek @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 15:56:15 PM CDT

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Donnie McClurkin and Rick Warren

easy question with an easy answer.

But I feel very strongly that Obama brought some of that on himself. He fomented the homophobic shit and continues to, what, you expect the gay community to always sit back and allow it to happen all the while believeing Obama has their back?

The interesting thing is a lot of black people are baffled at why I (just as an example of a gay person) would be so upset with the McClurkin and Warren episodes. If you explain it sloooowly (I've even looked at the McClurkin on youtube and used it in my explanations) black people to understand why those particular episodes in the campaign would be considered homophobic. Sure, some make excuses for it but that's whn I keep pushing them.

Not saying that I convince them to support marriage equality or anything like that but you do have to begin somewhere.

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:07:55 PM CDT

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BOTH McClurkin and Warren trace back to that ODIOUS Josh DuBois

he's a cancer growing in the presidential inner circle, I'd liked to see dropped.

btw Josh seems no stranger to sequins...IMO

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 17:27:54 PM CDT

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Problem is Geek

I think you are dead wrong about this being merely an elite thing. Some of the "leaders," yes, to be sure, but you would have had to participate at some of these protest. The elite don't like to get out in the streets protesting, by the way. Plenty of them were looking from their condo balcony on Halsted during the Prop 8 protests. There really is a lot of anger out ther; maybe it's the need (for lack of a better word) to have a movement of their own. I have seen that up close.

And don't underestimate the powerful images coming out of Iran either, the world is watching them too. And people are taking notes.

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:13:01 PM CDT

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More of your maybes and ifs

The supply is simply endless.  Anything but deal with the plain facts.  

Maybe that's why Pam rated my comment excellent.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  

-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 15:53:24 PM CDT

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Couldn't

actually address the substance of the post hmmm?

You're one to talk about facts when you FREQUENTLY elevate the opinions of others to the level of fact.  

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by: SciFi Geek @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:02:03 PM CDT

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IF and MAYBE are not facts except in science fiction.

Oh...that explains it.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  

-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:31:52 PM CDT

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Alexander Robinson not with NBJC anymore

He is no longer ED. Sylvia Rhue is interim director and said the NBJC has not taken a position one way or the other re: the fundraiser.

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 21:44:00 PM CDT

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VT Senator Shumlin out too....

This from the Bonauto blog:

A letter from DNC honored guest who's withdrawn
Vermont Freedom to Marry has posted a letter from Vermont State Senator Peter Shumlin, who will not attend as an honored guest at the gay DNC fundraiser. Another OUCH.
A copy of Senator Shumlin's letter withdrawing from the DNC event:
Dear Andy,

Further our recent telephone conversation, I was looking forward to seeing you next week in DC for the DNC event with Vice President Joe Biden, but after learning how the Administration and the Department of Justice is choosing to defend DOMA, I am writing to let you know that I am canceling my participation in the upcoming event.

As an early and strong supporter of Barack Obama I am shocked and disappointed at the level of insensitivity that the Department of Justice has shown towards gay and lesbian couples and their families.  By defending DOMA and making reference to horribly inaccurate and deeply hurtful stereotypes about gay and lesbian Americans, the Administration has chosen discriminate against a minority group that we all have a responsibility to be more courageous in defending. This action will only serve to sow the seeds for further hatred and division against the only minority group left in America that politicians can publicly discriminate against and see their approval ratings rise.  My disappointment in this has led me to the regrettable decision not to be a participant in the DNC event.

I am proud Vermont made history in how we enacted marriage equality - not through a court order but through legislative action.  The tides of history, love and justice came together in Vermont and I look forward to witnessing this movement swell across the nation as all of America's citizens are granted equal rights.  It is my hope that the Obama Administration will actively support what we did in Vermont - grant marriage equality to all under the law - nothing more and nothing less.

Andy, I appreciate your hard work on behalf of the DNC and I make this decision with regret.

My Best,

Peter Shumlin

by: Pam Spaulding @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 08:40:40 AM CDT
[ Reply ]

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 11:07:30 AM CDT

The brief was bad but the focus on case citations is

simply wrong and shows a real lack of understanding of what a legal brief entails.

If one believes that case citations imply moral equivalency then that person must believe that the DOJ's citation of a KKK case shows that the DOJ believes that the LGBT community is the moral equivalent of the Klan.

But does anyone actually believe that?

The problem with the brief at its most basic level is that it claims the DOMA is not an attack on homosexuals. But of course it is. Race neutral statutes may not be a clear attack on a minority but if their effect is to discriminate against a minority then they're unconstitutional because they won't be able to pass strict scrutiny (for the most part though with this court who knows) but that same standard is not being applied to the DOMA cases because no one has successfully argued that gay is a suspect class. If someone could win on that argument these laws would start getting destroyed.  

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by: Jay @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 11:56:47 AM CDT

Suspect class...

Now that there's been "suspect class" assignations by state Supreme courts (mainly California), perhaps that'll arise in our favor soon.

The point isn't whether or not the DOJ "thinks" same-sex marriages are morally equivalent to incestual or pedophilic marriages, it's whether the DOJ "thinks" that they're legally equivalent.  Implying that they are implies that homosexuality, like incest and pedophilia, has a community standing akin to these illegal practices.

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by: Bruno @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 13:28:57 PM CDT

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Precisely

Implying that they are implies that homosexuality, like incest and pedophilia, has a community standing akin to these illegal practices.

Since Lawrence vs. Texas was decided based on the 4th Amendment right to be free of unreasonable search and seizure and to be secure in your own home (the government has no business dictating what goes on in your bedroom), anti-sodomy laws criminalizing homosexuality have all been overturned. There is no comparison. For the Prop 8-supporting mormon flunky at Justice to compare us to a guy marrying his underage niece is a horrendous farce of legal reasoning while grasping at the straws of his own christian hate.

The state does not have a compelling interest in criminalizing homosexuality. The state does have a compelling interest in outlawing pedophilic and incestuous relationships. Don't think so? Check out your nearest FLDS compound.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

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by: Keori @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 16:24:27 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

from a thread yesterday

here's my post about Stamp Corbin and Stonewall Democrats cancelling from another thread it was linked from Towerload
  http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 12:09:37 PM CDT

I dont normally agree with Andrew Sullivan on anything BUT

I agree 10000% with him and the rest of the community that has chosen to pull out of this fundraiser. I also never thought I would agree with anyone that said 'divorce the Dems' but at this point, Karen Ocamb makes total sense.

We ARE like the abused spouse that keeps going back for more hoping it will change. ENOUGH! The dems have had their shot and they have royally blown it. If they lose the house and senate in 2010, it will be because they took us for granted...AGAIN.

We all need to do our part and keep the pressure on. IMHO, we need to make sure our voices are so loud that our 'fierce advocate' cannot ignore it. And we need to keep the pressure on until we get the 1138 federal benefits we are due by our citizenship.

NO MORE MONEY UNTIL YOU GIVE US EQUALITY! NO COMPROMISES!

Support the UAFA

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by: LoveMoby @ Fri Jun 19, 2009 at 13:45:46 PM CDT