The Latest Christianist 'Rationale': Marriage is Like Puberty

SCOTUS disagrees

http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...

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by: dyssonance @ Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 21:18:29 PM CDT

Specifically

From the ruling on Loving v. Virginia, emphasis added:

The freedom to marry has long been recognized as one of the vital personal rights essential to the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men. Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.

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by: TechBear @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 08:33:41 AM CDT

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Yes...

but these people would argue "activist judges" did that, and how wrong that is, blah, blah, blah...

Hate stops a beating heart.

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by: KarenS @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 09:43:25 AM CDT

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So all those porn actors I see

with no pubic hair must not be married then, right?

The American people, taking one with another, are the most timorous, sniveling, poltroonish, ignominious mob of serfs and goose-steppers ever gathered under one flag in Christendom since the end of the Middle Ages.
-H.L. Mencken

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by: QScribe @ Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 21:29:37 PM CDT

I am glad I clicked on the original link after reading

and before posting.  And sorry about the long comment....
Part of what I have been looking at (some how it ties into our oppression) is that the radical right, the moral majority, the christian coalition grew out of the white separatist movement. First they spawned the anti-abortion movement out of it, and now the Anti-Gay industry has grown out of all of those.  They are most afraid of losing their majority status as privileged and white but they are very afraid of change of any kind. Oh, my point? So, after reading the original article, what do I see but the first comment:

kurt9 says:

"The white and asian birthrate in the U.S. correlates with Affordable Family Formation (from Steve Sailor). In the "red" states where land and housing is reasonably cheap and the standard of living is good have white birthrates of 2.1 or better. The "blue" states where housing is fiendishly expensive and "hood" and PC influences abound in the schools have white birthrates significantly lower than 2.1. These are the places where the yuppy couple has their one designer baby at age 39 that they send to private school. As the "red" states become more "blue" over time, the white birthrate will drop accordingly.

Asians deal with the problems of the "hood" and PC by self-segregating into their own neighborhoods where they can send their kids to their own schools. Examples of this include the Peninsula (west side) of the Bay Area and the I-10 corridor to San Gabriel valley in SoCal. Another factor is that the Chinese want their kids to learn their home language (Mandarin or Cantonese) in addition to English and, of course, our public schools do not offer this. Thus, they create their own private schools for this purpose.

The other people lack the future time orientation to think about things like housing and schools in deciding to have kids. They just have kids without thinking about it."

I am not an alarmist, well, maybe just a little, but I don't like that these groups have ties in common. I don't like that they are separate now but all know how to organize better than the majority of people who see no reason to, including us.  I just watched an old video made back when the moral majority and christian coalition were a force, what struck me is how many people went through their training on how to recruit and fight are still around passing it on.

Here is the link to the video if anyone is interested: Life and Liberty for All Who Believe http://www.theocracywatch.org/audio-video.htm

"They say that time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself." - Andy Warhol



"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal

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by: TruthandLove @ Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 22:34:24 PM CDT

Motley Fools

"just watched an old video made back when the moral majority and christian coalition were a force"

Unfortunately for them, Motley Crue hasn't made that many records since the mid 1980's, so it was kinda difficult for them to ride on their tailcoats and find more "hidden Satanic messages" without any new tunes from The Crue.

When I think of that era, I think of "christians" sitting around playing rock records backwards.  You know, being scientific & stuff.

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by: bluegrassfool @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 00:57:21 AM CDT

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typo

"Coat-tails", rather.

Hand that "Tailcoats" to Tony Perkins, and he can probably find a hidden Satanic message there, too! LOL

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by: bluegrassfool @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 00:59:29 AM CDT

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OMFG!

I forgot ALL about that. They started "emphasizing" backward "masking" (I think that was the "proper" phrase they gave it) when I was in junior high school which was a.......wait for it.......wait for it.........yes, an "XTIAN" private school. Apparently Led Zeppelin's "Highway To Heaven" was chalk full of "Natas Taetg" (you know "Great Satan" when played backwards.) Lucky for me, I got myself kicked out of that school in 9th grade and went into public school. I remember telling my parents that either I was going to public school or I wasn't going at all. I won! LOL

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." ~~~ Thomas Jefferson

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by: SD_Dave @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 01:32:20 AM CDT

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I wrote about backmasking recently

http://blog.albumartexchange.c...

Some writer for MTV didn't know the difference between subliminal and hidden messages.

There's also stuff about a Jesus message on a U2 album cover.

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.

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by: Fritz @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 01:45:48 AM CDT

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OKAY PHBlend!

You're falling behind. The big "gay" news of the day is the RAID on a Fort Worth bar that took place early this morning, the 40th Anniversary of Stonewall, and there hasn't been anything on the main page. What's up?

"A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine." ~~~ Thomas Jefferson

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by: SD_Dave @ Sun Jun 28, 2009 at 23:53:22 PM CDT

IT'S A CHOICE!!!

"One doesn't have a right to go through puberty. One either does or doesn't."

Which is why Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Joe Scarborough, Rush Limbaugh and others from that camp have chosen NOT to go through puberty.  

IT'S A CHOICE!!!!! LOL

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by: bluegrassfool @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 00:50:13 AM CDT

Don't worry darlin'

You'll either go though puberty or you won't. Anyways you make one purdy virgin Christian bride!

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.

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by: Fritz @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 01:51:31 AM CDT

Marriage is not a right

The choice to marry is, however. I wonder how they would feel if we could vote on their ability to go through puberty?

Always thinking about it...

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by: kudo451 @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 02:02:14 AM CDT

Some Intersexed people

Don't go through puberty. Not without assistance.

Young TS teens have to have their puberty put on hold until they're of the age of consent - for hormones.

And just a few Intersexed people have two puberties, both incomplete.

Somehow I think the author of this article didn't have any cases like this in mind.

There is no situation so complex it can't get even worse

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by: ZoeB @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 05:47:24 AM CDT

I saw a TV show

It was about a man who didn't go through puberty -- and he became a doctor and still didn't know what was wrong!

It was very sad. He didn't have a sex drive and didn't mature completely. Then, he saw a specialist for something else and was told that he had a problem.

He started taking male hormones and his body changed dramatically. He ejaculated for the first time -- in his late 20s.

He became interested in the opposite sex and got married.

I wonder what he'd think about the statement that puberty isn't a right.


When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.

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by: Fritz @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 15:55:12 PM CDT

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Puberty is a phase. It's temporary. Like wingnut monogamy.

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Claim to fame: Posted first PHB diary to be demoted

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by: cindik @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 06:19:21 AM CDT

An essential resource

It's all explained quite thoroughly in Tony Perkins' new book, What's Happening To My Body?  A Guide For People Undergoing Marriage.  It's an essential guide explaining all the bodily changes, strange new urges, and emotional instability that are a natural part of the "marriage" experience.

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by: popebuck1 @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 09:30:12 AM CDT

There is a subtext to this referring to puberty

In more unenlightened times, back when psycologists were calling gays/lesbians mentally ill, they would reference same sex bonding before puberty, and that gays/lesbians were emotionally stunted in that phase of their lives. They would reference opposite sex attraction as the NORMAL grown up attraction. So while this is a STUPID ad campaign it ties into what STUPID bigots believe and still spew.

What have you done today, to make ya feel PROUD?


~Heather Small

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by: peteyPornpig @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:48:29 AM CDT

psychologists....typo

What have you done today, to make ya feel PROUD?


~Heather Small

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by: peteyPornpig @ Mon Jun 29, 2009 at 10:49:38 AM CDT

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