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The View From My Window

by: JohnVisser

Mon Jul 06, 2009 at 04:41:11 AM EDT


( - promoted by Lurleen)

I am home alone this weekend. Nick is out of town and we haven't been in Connecticut long enough to make many friends. So I've had time to reflect on the past 8 months, since the election, which have been rather chaotic. My emotions have been like the lines on a heart monitor; shooting from extreme highs to extreme lows and then back again. But deep in my own thoughts tonight, while walking past one of our windows, I noticed the moon over the Hartford skyline and it inspired me to write this diary.

First some background. Nick and I met about 7 years ago and were engaged four months later. Living in a suburb of Los Angeles at the time, we found we were no longer intrigued by the Southern California lifestyle and wanted to move to some place with a slower pace, less traffic and more trees. No state had achieved marriage equality at that point so marriage laws did not factor into our plans.

Within a few months we were settled into a new home in Smithfield, North Carolina (not far from Pam and Kate's home). We quickly began to fall in love with North Carolina. Not just its natural beauty, but also with its people. Expecting to be confronted with more homophobia than we had in California, we were braced for the worst. But to our surprise, it was almost (repeat almost) like being back in California. We had found a new neighborhood with a mostly progressive set of neighbors who had settled in there for similar reasons. We grew our little network of friends and neighbors; some gay, the vast majority straight; to well over a hundred.

They all expressed nothing but support and affirmation for us a couple. Nick was unofficially anointed as "The Mayor of Forest Oaks" and later became the Home Owners Association President. We started a neighborhood newsletter, hosted numerous meet and greets, held neighborhood parties, theatre nights, poker nights and more. We raised money for local charities, visited each other in the hospital, and even went on trips to Las Vegas together. It was, for us, the perfect little community. We loved it there and we loved our neighbors and friends.

We designed and built a new home in the same neighborhood. Our dream home. No expense was spared, everything was custom and we put our hearts and souls into it because we were certain we would live there until we retired. As an interior designer, and knowing this home was long term, I went all out on the interior. We had created a beautiful home. We loved it and we loved our community.

At the time, neither of us were actively involved with the LGBT civil rights movement, with of course the exception of an annual contribution to HRC and the obligatory blue and gold equality bumper stickers (you know the ones). We weren't well-versed on LGBT topics either. We didn't know about ENDA, UAFA or the Matthew Shepherd Act. The extent of our LGBT civil rights knowledge was DOMA and DADT and we for the most part assumed those would come with time and through the work of others.

But then something changed.

JohnVisser :: The View From My Window
One evening, sitting on the back porch and taking in the news on CNN, I sat in horror as I watched George W. Bush, the President of the United States and leader of the free world, stand before the country and pronounce that marriage needed to be protected by writing discrimination, marginalization, segregation and oppression into the Constitution of the United States for the first time in its history. It was then that I began to realize how ignorant I was of politics and of our country.

I had been living in a bubble of idealism which had been spoon fed to me by my public school education. All those ideas about the American Revolution, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution and Bill of Rights, the freeing of the slaves, woman's suffrage, the heroism of US soldiers liberating the Jewish people from the horrors of the Nazi holocaust, and the Civil Rights Act. I was taught to be proud of my country and I was proud. But that night was when I realized that I had only been taught half of the truth - the pretty half all tied up in a bow like a present under the tree on Christmas morning.

They never told me about the dark half.

Although I didn't immediately become actively involved in politics, my mind was maturing, my eyes were opening and I was learning. It wasn't until the 2008 election that I became heavily invested in the outcome. I began the year teetering between Clinton and Edwards and settling firmly behind Clinton.

But then I read a passage from Barack Obama's book, Dreams from my Father, that completely and radically changed my opinion of this unknown candidate. That passage reads, ". . . the underlying struggle - between worlds of plenty and worlds of want; between the modern and the ancient; between those who embrace our teeming, colliding, irksome diversity, while still insisting on a set of values that binds us together, and those who would seek, under whatever flag or slogan or sacred text, a certainty and simplification that justifies cruelty toward those not like us - is the struggle set forth. . ." These words had an impact on me - a deep and resonating impact.

I promptly moved into Obama's column and for the first time in my otherwise politically uninvolved life jumped full bore into the campaign. I volunteered to work on his campaign, made phone calls, posted on blogs, talked to friends, neighbors, family, and convinced others to register to vote and actually vote. And I followed the news, main stream and internet, like my life depended on it.

Then on the night of November 4th, when MSNBC announced Obama as the projected winner, I was filled with an overwhelming and overpowering joy. And relief. Not so much because my guy had won, but because the party that had eroded the Constitution, that had raped the US Commission on Civil Rights and the Department of Justice, that had oppressed all those who were not of their kind were finally and fully no longer in power. We were as a country headed in a new and better direction - a promising new course.

But as you all know, that joy turned out to be so fleetingly brief. As the election results came in, we learned that California's Proposition 8 had passed. It was a shock - a devastating shock. The big prize of California that most of us expected to win had slipped through our fingers like a precious wedding ring falls into an eviscerating garbage disposal. And what about our friends back in California who had wed over the past months - what would happen to their marriages? I was, quite literally, consumed in a state of near uncontrollable rage and grief for what would be several weeks.

Knowing that I needed to do something to channel my rage I googled "prop 8 protest" and learned about Join the Impact. That's when I met Will Elliott (it was Will that told me about Pam and Pam's House Blend) and Tom Greene, two of the thousands of unsung heros of our movement. We organized the November 15th Join the Impact Protest for Raleigh.

We started out hoping to get two or three hundred people to show up. But on November 15th, in the rain, over 1,400 people marched through the streets of downtown Raleigh around the Capitol and to the Governor's Mansion- a milestone for LGBT history in conservative North Carolina. Someone even raised the Rainbow flag on the Governor's Mansion flagpole. But while the protest was therapeutic, other events were adding to my anguish.

A very close and dear friend when listening to my rants about marriage equality and religious persecution told me I shouldn't take the actions of religion so personally. I verbally attacked her, we didn't speak for nearly a month and although she came to our wedding two weeks ago, I don't think I'll ever feel the closeness we once had. I still love her dearly, she is a good person, but our relationship was damaged. Other friends seemed so nonchalant and unconcerned. All of this led to my increasing frustration. Some were completely unaware of how what they were saying was hurting me even more. Like the very good friend who said she was, "all for equal rights and equal benefits but felt that marriage was a religious institution and should not be open to same-sex couples." She might as well have slapped me - it wouldn't have hurt as bad.

Of all of our friends, only two showed any real understanding toward what I was going through. One of them, Betty, was from liberal New York and the other, Connie, was half of an interracial couple. Each of them from their own unique experiences understood and offered a compassionate shoulder. I will never forget the day Connie and I sat on the front steps and cried together arm in arm connecting through our mutual experiences with discrimination.

Nick, recognizing how much I was struggling to get a grasp on my emotions and how much distance had been created between our friends and me, suggested we move to Connecticut or Massachusetts and get married. It did not take long to decide to leave our dream home, our neighborhood, and our friends behind and move to a state where not only could we get married, but also have our marriage recognized by our state and local governments; to a place where we would no longer have to humbly ask for our dignity and respect.

After placing the "for sale" sign in the front yard, everyone wanted to know why we were moving. Telling them why, for marriage equality, actually solidified my decision to move. Barely a third of our friends and neighbors expressed congratulations for our upcoming marriage. Most said things like, "Oh" or "Well we are sorry to see you go," never realizing that they were quietly revealing their hidden bigotry for the first time. It's that look on a person's face when their eyes dilate momentarily and they look like a deer in the headlights for about two seconds while their brain goes into overdrive trying to figure out how not to reveal their intolerance and disapproval. They can all happily vote away your rights in a private booth, but few have the courage to tell you that to your face.

On the drive to New England, I became almost giddy with a sense of liberation. I reflected on how slaves from centuries past had made similar, albeit extremely more difficult and dangerous, journeys on the Underground Railroad. At times it seemed as if weight was literally being lifted from my heart and soul. But I also still wondered if we were making the right decision. Would New England be any different?

It did not take long to get my answer. What I have found here are monuments to Abraham Lincoln and Harriett Beecher Stowe, and to Union soldiers who fought and died for the idea of liberty for all; a stark contrast to the Southern monuments of those who fought to uphold their ideas of slavery, privilege, superiority and segregation. I've found Rainbow flags in church windows; again a stark contrast to the chilling language emanating from the Baptist churches of the South. I've also found a Rainbow flag hanging beside the state flag of Connecticut inside Hartford's City Hall with a large banner proclaiming welcome to all. I've found politicians who are seemingly light years ahead of their Southern counterparts on equality. I've found marriage equality blooming in surrounding states. And I've also found a state that has every LGBT equality issue proscribed into law (except the T in ENDA but we're working on that - hopefully next year); but once again a very stark contrast to North Carolina where we had not a single one.

But most important, is what I have not found. I have not found a single person who didn't eagerly congratulate us on our wedding. Even perfect strangers on the street smile brightly and say, "Good for you! Congratulations!" The healing has started.

Nick and I are married now and I love him dearly. We left behind a lot in North Carolina. I miss the home we built together; I miss the community we helped to establish in our old neighborhood; and I miss our friends so much. But I would not trade my marriage nor my dignity to get it all back.

So as I take in the view from my window, I have a deep and uplifting appreciation for what I see - equality.

Link to our wedding day: http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...

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Welcome to Connecticut
I would like to welcome you to Connecticut, I was born and raised here and think it is one of the best states (Of course I am a little biased.). We are less than two hours from Boston or New York City. We are only an hour away from the ocean, two hours from the mountains and the lake region of New Hampshire and Vermont. We have quaint country inns and summer stock theaters in the northeast and northwest corners of the state. In the fall most of the wineries in the state have wine tasting parties and their wines are excellent.

I hope that you stay active in politics, even though Connecticut has made great, there is strong opposition from the religious right (yeah, we have a small but vocal group of religious fanatics). We need all the help we can get to pass the gender inclusive anti-discrimination bill. If you do want to stay active in politics, I would like to suggest that you contact Love Make a Family before they close in November.

Another great organization here in Connecticut is True Colors, they work with LGBTQI youth (They are moving into LMF's office on Farmington Ave in Hartford this month and need help moving - helping out would be a great way to get acquainted with LGBT community here in CT [a shameless little plug]). They are always looking for mentors for LGBTQI youth who are in foster care. They also have a conference for LGBTQI youth and allies in March. It is the largest conference for LGBTQI youth in the nation with over 3,000 attendees.

I hope that you find your home here in Connecticut.


Beauttiful essay, John
It put me in mind of something I came across a few years ago, in a piece by Ed Vulliamy in the Observer:

America was always a dichotomous, Janus nation - born of a revolution by democratic visionaries such as Tom Paine but built on genocide and enslavement. Enriched by immigration but made greedy by power and wealth. It was always a question of which America was in the ascendancy at a given time.

Says it all very nicely, doesn't it?  It's such a pity that those of us who espouse the ideals of Thomas Paine are so often regarded as nuisances or even as something like enemies of the state.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


Holy Real Estate Batman ...
Boy you do live right downtown don't you !?!

Unlike the "lovers of the Nutmeg State" you already know my feelings.

But by living where you are, and walking or buses, you can take full advantage of downtown Hartford.

As QScripe wrote, very nice piece.

If you haven't already here's a bar in Hartford to check out .... ChezEst (http://www.chezest.com).

Just because your voice reaches halfway around the world doesn't mean you are wiser than when it reached only to the end of the bar. - Edward R Murrow




Great essay, John
I also took the time to go back and look at your wedding pictures. I noticed for the first time that you and your husband (or is it partner? I've heard a lot of debate about the spousal nomenclature) wore flip flops. Wonderful touch!

Husband. . .
definitely my husband!

I refuse to accept anything less!!

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
I have another take
Once again, I see an assimillationist, well-off gay couple thinking they arrived... only to quickly find out sadly that their "friends" were okay with their tokens until one became "uppity" and started making waves -- like demanding equality.

John, dear... I've faced discrimination and prejudice my entire life. It's too bad your naïveté was torn asunder, but it was for the good.

I've been fighting for equality for over 30 years -- both on the job and politically. My state of Ohio for the first time allowed an ENDA-style bill out of committee, but due to the financial budget woes, has put the bill on the back burner.

I am a child of the '60's -- I watched the fight of Dr. King and the SCLC and his allies to fight for equality, and growing up trans showed me it's the same prejudice.

It didn't take GWB calling for a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage to awaken my political chops, I've been doing it for years -- and losing jobs and interviews because of it.

I am glad though, John that you and your hubby have found a place more to your liking... just remember that we ALL need to work for pushing bigotry against us over the cliff of history, just as society has done with religious and race-based bigotry.

Listen to "TransTalk" every Monday from 4-5pm ET on http://www.falconradio.org beginning January 11th!


Villagers with pitch forks
against same-sex marriage are over at Bilerico, as you probably know coming from Indiana.  

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.

[ Parent ]
More on
Bilerico - they're actually getting worse. They're now the 'LGBT' center for opposition to SSM. If Obama doesn't like it, they don't like it,  http://www.bilerico.com/2009/0...  

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.

[ Parent ]
e.g.
anti-marriage crusader Yasmin Nair for whom gay is all about fucking everyone in sight, complaining that marriage-equality campaigns with people kissing are ruining the fucking. Umm... what?

Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls


[ Parent ]
How damn tedious
Once again, I see an assimillationist, well-off gay couple thinking they arrived... only to quickly find out sadly that their "friends" were okay with their tokens until one became "uppity" and started making waves -- like demanding equality.

So, would you rather John and Nick stay living in their former bubble?  Why not be glad that they've made the intellectual leap, and even gladder to have two new allies?  

I used to think Fritz was overreacting when he complained about people here who seem determined to be offended by everything anybody posts.  But more and more, I think he's absolutely right.  So you figured out what's what a lot sooner than John did, huh?  Well, pin a rose on you! Don't welcome him to the ranks and be glad he's there.  No, no, no.  Attack him.  That'll be sooo productive.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
Thanks QScribe
That comment was bugging me - didn't know exactly how to take it.

I'd also like to note I am the furthest thing from an assimillationist - I only am who I am and if somebody doesn't like (whether more queer or less queer) that's really their problem.

And we're also not well-off, but it would be nice.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
Over the last few months, this blog
has been hijacked by the Purity Brigade.  Every discussion becomes about them and their grandstanding efforts to demonstrate that they--and no one else--are utterly righteous.  It creeps into one thread after another.  And it is inexorably bringing the Blend--which not too long ago was a lively, engaging forum for the exchange of ideas and viewpoints--to a grinding halt.  More and more, recently, I've found myself starting to read a thread only to suddenly realize it's full of more of the same crap.  The usual mantra is "Privileged white males!"  "Privileged white males!" but there are others.  (I swear, if one of us "white males" was to post a diary about how blue is his favorite color, these fools would find some way to be offended by it.)

It was that same doggedly boring rubbish that finally drove me out of formal activism.  I still remember the last activist meeting I attended.  We were looking for a name for an ad hoc group that had come together to organize a protest.  We had six weeks to plan, which normally would have been plenty of time.  But that first meeting was hijacked by a clown who insisted we call the group an alliance instead of a coalition, because coalition was an "elitist" word, for mysterious reasons only he seemed to understand.  When I pointed out that the two words are synonyms and in fact derive from the same root, the guy started screaming that I"m a fascist.  This went on for three hours, with the guy shouting constantly at everyone--even after we agreed to call the group an alliance (he still objected to the fact that the rest of us still thought that the words were synonyms, so it was a non-issue).  That first meeting accomplished nothing at all, thanks to him, and I never went back to another.  He left the meeting feeling smug and self-satisfied, though, having "proved" what a fascist concept a coalition is.

That same kind of idiocy is now infecting the Blend.  I  I I I am much more righteous than you, for reasons that only I I I I understand!    This is not only childishly insulting, it's BORING.  It doesn't make a lot of sense to work for LGBT equality if you have to sacrifice your own self-respect to do it.  These Purity Police actually manage to make quiet assimilationism look downright appealing.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
Obnoxious.
There is nothing assimilationist about having mostly straight friends, nor about moving from NC to CT. My take on the essay was that they moved from North Carolina to Connecticut, they sound very happy with the move, and they still have mostly straight friends.

In fact, it's hard to tell what the point of your post was -- it's basically just an incoherent but self-congratulatory harrumph.


[ Parent ]
A comment
There's nothing wrong with having straight friends.

There's nothing wrong with trying to live in safe areas.

There's something wrong in trying to live like a straight couple when you aren't.

That's not to mean TLBG couples should live in the gay ghetto, either.

What I have a problem with is affluent gay and lesbian couples thinking that because they think they've arrived, they won't be discriminated against, or called names in their nice neighbourhood, or face bigotry in their town.

I also have a problem with affluent gay and lesbian couples who ignore the plight of their brothers and sisters in other states, thinking their plight doesn't concern them, because they've arrived, and thus above their poorer brothers and sisters.

As we've seen... this is not the case. Never has been, truthfully!

Where's the tens of thousands of dollars these affluent gays and lesbians donate which should be sent to the local and state groups fighting bias? Why haven't their dollars been given to us in the trans community so we can gain our guaranteed civil rights?

Call me jaded, call me a cynic, I don't care! I've eaten from garbage containers because I was hungry and had no money to buy even a hamburg at McDonald's!

I too have been asked "Why stay in your part of Ohio when you can do more somewhere else?". My answer is, if we all left rural Ohio for the three "C's" (Cleveland/Columbus/Cincinnati), then that gives the bigots the victory!

Not to mention is the fact I've never held a full-time job for very long, especially one where I could pay the rent and the utilities. It's hard to pay the bills when part-time, minimum wage jobs is all most of us transfolk can get. Not all of us can afford to build dream homes. Thank goodness for Section 8!

If I was in John and Nick's shoes, I'd still move out of bigot central, but find a real welcoming community in your town and start linking up with other NC activists and fight for your rights.

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[ Parent ]
Dear Marlene
In response to your comment:
"There's something wrong in trying to live like a straight couple when you aren't."

I think you fail to see the illogicicalness of your point and to help you to understand I ask you to think about how the following statement  makes you feel:
"There's something wrong in trying to live like a woman when you aren't."

But I've never said that. What I have said here on PHB, prior to posting this diary, and have said in plenty of other places as well is this:
Inclusive ENDA will pass eventually. Maybe not this year, maybe not next, but it will pass within a decade. I can wait for ENDA protections until it can be passed inclusively. I will not throw even the smallest minority to the back of the line while I enjoy my new privilege with the rest of society.
Ojrocks hypotesizes correctly, IMO, that if the T's get left behind it will be a very long time and cold day in hell before they are added. I won't to do that to them.

Additionally, we have survived this long without any ENDA and I think we can survive a little while longer until the votes are their for all of us. And BTW, I am not speaking hypothetically here, my husband, Nick, was fired 5 years ago from his job of 20 years because his new boss was a f**cking homophobe. So I am speaking from a position of experience.

Leaving the T out of ENDA is same damn thing as the straight democrats who complain that we should wait while their other "more important" issues are taken care of first.

And here's the link to verify this http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...

And I will also tell you that I was one of few who have volunteered with Loves Makes a Family to collect signatures to get the "T" added to Connecticut's ENDA law. I will also be actively involved with this effort next year when it comes up in the legislature. And I've been putting pressure on Rep John Larson's (D-CT) office to get off the fence on Inclusive Federal ENDA this year.

Moving On. . . I am certainly not naive enough to think we will not face discrimination here in CT. And you can verify with Lurleen that we have not ignored those in other states as we have made a contribution to Equality Maine to fight R-71.

Finally, we are not "well off" as you say. Christ, you've made so many assumptions about us that it's pointless at this point to point them out. I think they do nothing more than to prove my point that you pre-judged us and wrote us off as I'm sure you have done with thousands of other G's and L's.

I hope one day that you realize you need to determine who your real enemies are in the LGBT community before you indiscriminantly attack everyone who is not trans.

I emphatically include you in the LGBT community, You apparently wish to eject me.

Inspite of what you have said in this thread, I do understand where you are coming from. No, my experiences have not been as bad as yours, but would you prefer I be un-empathetic towards you?



Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
We all have to fight this battle in our own way
I think leaving NC for more welcoming grounds sends an incredibly strong message to those straight neighbors & friends who were around them in NC who see what a lack of equality costs NC... good people who supported the community they lived in.

And as someone who is still in NC pushing for equality I certainly don't feel abandoned by John & Nick moving to CT.  It definitely sounds like the right move for them both in striving for equality but also on a personal level & for their relationship.

I think there are many paths that must be taken by many different people to try to reach equality, all that matters is that we have a common purpose of equality even if we are each striving for it & pushing for it in different ways.  And I wish them all the best in CT!


[ Parent ]
Oh, the nail on the head. . .
Our decision to move to Connecticut, although not for this reason, did force a lot of friends and nieghbors to face their own unrecognized intolerance. Maybe I should have included that in my diary, but many have expressed different views already in the past several months.

One case in point, the friend I mentioned in the diary who talked about marriage being a religious institution has since posted comments on her facebook page expressing support for marriage equality.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
Thanks, John!
John, thanks for the clarification and your expansion of your comments.

I also agree with Jake that leaving sends a signal too... but it's just that most will see this as a victory of getting the f*gs out of their town. I can see both sides of the story.

And I do have to remind myself that not every TLBG person's cut out to be an activist -- but living openly is just as much a part of activism as writing letters to your various representatives, or marching in a parade.

John -- I don't know if Hartford's trans community does this, but every November 20th, we hold the Transgender Day of Remembrance -- a day to reflect and remember the transwomen and transmen who've been murdered due to their status. I hope that you and Nick will attend it (or start one up if it hasn't).

I want to sincerely apologize to you as well. When I saw your original post, I saw red, because here was another gay couple talking about having their dream home built, while I and thousands of transfolk struggle even to put a roof over our heads cause we don't have the protections some G&L folk have taken for granted for years.

I guess I've been radicalized, but struggling to find work and have door after door after door slammed in my face does that to a person.

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[ Parent ]
Not Necessary
An apology is not required and not necessary. I do completely understand where you are coming from - I've always had a keen ability to think about being in someone else's shoes (or high heels if you prefer!) and understand the difficulties and challenges they are going through in thier lives. If only I could bottle it somehow and slip it into the reigious right's holy water. LOL!!

Always know that you have many friends here (including me). And you've got my e-mail address should you ever care to share.


Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
Thanks, John
You're a sweetie!

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[ Parent ]
I can relate
having lived in in the mountains of North Carolina for years.  Those Baptist churches take your breath away, literally.  When I moved there from Palm Beach, Florida,  I was thinking the simple life "covered dishes", rocking on the porch listening to the crickets, and "barn raisings", organic gardening, pure air and water, like the technicolor 50's musicals at the "State Fair".  How delusional I was.  But Kevin and I were happy there for ten years.  Then he had a meltdown with drugs and alcohol.  I thought a change would be good for him away from the redneck mountain negative neighborhood.
Palm Springs was a great change, gay wise (wall to wall gays) but has had an awful psychological effect on my husband.  He met up with the wrong people in the music industry, developed an alcohol drug problem, went ballistics and made death threats on law enforcement officers and is now in jail.  This has been one hell of a year. Hope you don't have to experience the roller coaster I have been on since leaving North Carolina. I could live in Chapel Hill and Durham.  But the research triangle is populated with highly intelligent and educated people such as Pam and Kate.

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.

Holy Cow!!
Jeez Charles now that is a story and when does the book come out!!

But I can relate to your story as well. Back in the early days of California (Redlands to be exact) within in a week of my first cohabitating boyfriend movin in, I realized he was a non-recovering recovering alcoholic. After about six months when the relationship became abusive and financially unstable I left.

PS - Thank you for your work on the Dallas Principles - I am an ardent suporter.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


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Thanks John
I was only one out of 24 people that made up the Dallas Principles. I was amazed at the energy of diversity in the meetings.  LGBT's, black, hispanic and white, were all represented.  Many had been financially successful but it was  self made.

My husband Kevin is now a felon due to his death threats and the state is putting him in a recovery center. Meth addiction is very prevalent in Palm Springs. Hopefully he will recover to become a productive and happy person.  Alot of his relapse had to do with anger about our case against the IRS.  He has problems with authority figures.

Thanks for your essay.  I don't normally discuss my personal life, but I felt like we had things in common.

Best to you and your husband.

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.


[ Parent ]
I'm Intrigued
Was your IRS case LGBT equal rights related? If so, I'd love to hear more about it.

I wish you and Kevin strength and happiness as you work through your struggles.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
John, it's a challenge to DOMA
through the U.S. Tax Court http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...

Thank you for your kind thoughts.

Same-Sex Marriage is good for the economy.


[ Parent ]
Congrats on the move!
(& on the marriage, although I really hope I've said congrats for that already =p )

Your voice will be missed in NC, but I'm sure you'll make for a strong voice in CT too.

I fell in love with Boston when I got marred up there, and could totally see myself living up there someday (or elsewhere in New England).  But in the mean time while my husband & I are both in grad school down here, we'll keep the fight going in the ways that we can, and hopefully 1 day NC will be a place where everyone feels welcome.

We've made recent progress with passing the Bullying Bill & the Comprehensive Sex Ed bills (both of which were pro-lgbt legislation in some respects) just last month.  (I think NY was struggling to pass one of those bills up there, but NC got it done.  Kind of funny & messed up that somewhere NC doesn't have a constitutional ban on gay marriage - the only state in the south that doesn't, but CA does)

And I fully expect Chapel Hill will have an openly gay mayor by the time November roles around... I think that'd make for the 3rd openly gay mayor to have served in the triangle area of NC.

I've never been to Connecticut, but you make it sound like a very inviting place, I hope I can see that state some day.

Congrats again, it sounds like you 2 are starting a wonderful new stage of your life.


Thanks Jake
and yes you did congratulate us earlier.

I heard about the Bullying Bill and called Julia Boseman's office to thank her for her hard work - I just love her assistant, she's so nice.

But I had not heard about the comprehensive sex-ed bill passing. That is indeed good news, not just for LGBT folks but for everyone. NC is slowly becoming more progressive, more open and more reality based. Let's call it a "wannabee blue" state. It's getting there but more work needs to be done.

All my best to you and Ted and thanks for your comments here.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
Congratulations
I would love to see this essay reach a larger audience.  Have you considered something like Newsweek, or other national magazine that has a place for contributions.

Later,

Marlin


I did sent it.

To Michael Signorile, and to PY of the Gay Civil Rights Media page. Also Waymon, on Bilerico.

...can anyone get it on HUFF PO? 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Connecticut's gain is North Carolina's loss.
I feel like printing your essay and leaving it around my office in North Carolina. Better yet, perhaps you would consider sending it to the N&O? People need to hear this.

Meanwhile, congratulations and best wishes to you and your husband! I wish you many, many happy years together!


Congratulations and thanks for this piece!
Living all my life in places where being GLBT is barely acknowledged, it was hard for me to expect more in my life by moving elsewhere.  In North Dakota, my gay friends were very closeted--tolerated as long as you were single and didn't draw attention to yourself if coupled ("just roommates").  In Montana, where I moved after graduation and came out, same-sex sexual acts were felonies with years in prison and thousands of dollars in fines if prosecuted--but they didn't prosecute you--instead, employers used it to fire you and you lost your professional licenses on morals grounds, and you lost custody of your kids if discovered (these Blue Laws are now thankfully off the books). And now in Colorado, which is arguably more tolerant (in the Denver Metro area), our state ENDA has passed and we have a hate-crimes law. But still, many justify assault and murder based on "gay panic" and we can't seem to get even a civil union law passed.

You described so well how you and your partner are well-treated as long as you are 1) helping your neighbors and community (a rural value) and 2) not naming your relationship and your need for recognition.  "It's that look on a person's face when their eyes dilate momentarily and they look like a deer in the headlights . . ."  Perfect.

Just this week, a friend of mine from high school caught up with me after almost 15 years, and though everyone at my last small-town HS reunion (20 year) heard through the grapevine that I was a lesbian, he was uncomfortable by my discussion of my commitment ceremony with my partner 5 years ago (after he revealed in detail his marriage problems and divorce) saying "Sounds like you are happy ... though I don't understand same sex relationships very well."

And I find myself suddenly and acutely aware that no matter how highly someone regards me, such regard can be abruptly changed with my honesty.


Forget the Hate, Remember the Love
John, I re-activated my account to congratulate you on your essay.  It really does need to get published beyond The Blend, with all respect to Pam!  But as a straight old geezer, I've got to say:

Forget the blank-eyed stares of the closet bigots.
Forget the religionists who want un-civil marriage to be the only marriage.
Forget the years of being engaged when you you had no good prospect of getting married.
Forget giving up the house you had lovingly built and lovingly decorated.
Forget feeling forced to uproot yourselves and go to a strange new environment.
Forget politics.

But remember - always remember, only remember - your love.  It's what makes any of the above worth it.


...and now you could get a job in WASHINGTON DC.
And get the same things!

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


LOL!
I can run for President and have equal rights in the White House. I've been watching the news for anything coming out of DC this past month - but it never dawned on me that the WHITE HOUSE, the CAPITOL and the SUPREME COURT are now all marriage equality zones (as long as you get married some where else)! Ironic in a way.

So are federal employees who work in DC that got married in Iowa eleigible for spousal health care now? Hmmmmmm.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
Too bad, it can't be printed as a "WEDDING CELEBRATION' story in a

Connecticut paper. Not that there aren't a lot of them every day there now, hopefully.

Very nice share, thanks John and Nick.  



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


Congratulations!
May you continue to feel at home.

Very nice essay...
It's terrific that people can get married. And even more terrific that they're demanding the right to get married. But it's awful that Clintons DOMA and Bushes state DOMAs deny equality for most of us.  

There are a few GLBT opponents of marriage as an institution and I agree with many of their criticisms. Marriage is patriarchal and connected to cults. But in the real world, the right-now world, it's wrong to oppose the fight to protect and expand same sex marriage simply because it's a very imperfect institution. That's a textbook definition of sectarianism.

ENDA is imperfect. It won't come close to ending discrimination, but it's a beginning and deserves our support. The same is true of the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes bill - it won't end harassment, beatings and murders. It'll have to be toughened up and deliberately aimed at prosecuting relations and political leaders whose bigotry emboldens thugs before it can begin to work.

Marriage evolved as a way to protect men's private ownership and insure the labor of women and children. It's fundamentally flawed.

The leftist or socialist view of marriage is that the state should have minimal interest in partnering except for defending the rights of women and the welfare of children. And that religious cults should be banned from any sort of interference in partnering; it's up to partners to call the shots and the only other interested party is the state. Everyone, partnered or not, should have the same rights, tax privileges and etc.

Partnering arrangements should be easy to get in and out of. While people should be held strictly accountable for the welfare of children in their care, society has to accept ultimate responsibly for the welfare of children. Part of that is mandatory educating in parenting skills. Another is to encourage everyone to parent all children. Society should insure that all children have decent housing, good medical care and good nutrition.

I can't wait for those kinds of revolutionary social norms to be won in fights against no longer viable governments and the cults. In the meantime if GLBT folks want to get married most of us will continue to encourage and fight for them just as we fight for all the parts of our agenda and all the segments of our communities.

We can multitask.


The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


Agreed
You are probably surprised that I completely agree with you, but I do. The vast majority of society's traditions and institutions are based upon religious interpretations and the holding of power. Both obviuosly fundamentally flawed.

But I'll take what I can get, or get away with.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
Moving is the Answer??
I'm glad it worked out for you personally, you do what you have to do.  But would say I'm a bit bothered that one would feel the need to move from NC to CONN to feel that personal validation.  WE all deserve our full rights exactly where we are now.  And some of us need to stay in those places to keep on fighting for them.  To be visible.  To confront friends, family, co-workers, strangers on their bigotry and prejudices.  I think it's a great loss to NC that you moved, instead of resolving to be open, honest and change NC from within.  Every bit counts.  My anger at the lack of full equality simply wouldn't allow me to move for this reason.

Although, ironically, federal immigration law will -- my partner is from Spain and we've run out of options to keep him here legally.  He goes back August 5th.  And I'll be spending half the year there with him -- we've found a great home in Madrid, commuting back and forth, eventually working to sell my businesses here and move to join him full time.  Funny -- I can get full equality in Spain (and Healthcare!) -- but am denied that in my own country.


So what you're saying
is his reason for moving is bad, but your reason for moving is good. The end result is the same, you're both moving.

I would say I'm a bit bothered that one would feel the need to move from the US to Spain to feel that personal validation living with someone else brings.  WE all deserve our full rights exactly where we are now.  And some of us need to stay in this country to keep on fighting for them.  To be visible.  To confront friends, family, co-workers, strangers on their bigotry and prejudices.  I think it's a great loss to the US that you plan to move, instead of resolving to be open, honest and change this country from within.  Every bit counts.  My anger at the lack of full equality simply wouldn't allow me to move for this reason. I've done long distance relationships before, and I could do it again.

Cause any fool knows, a dog needs a home; a shelter from pigs on the wing


[ Parent ]
FWIW
I don't actually think either of you have a "bad" reason for moving. We all do have an obligation to the greater community, but if we're not being true to who we are, we can't adequately meet the community's needs. If part of that is living in a place with the support we can't get elsewhere - whether legal or emotional - our first obligation is to do that, so we can also do the rest.

Cause any fool knows, a dog needs a home; a shelter from pigs on the wing

[ Parent ]
Thank You
I do want to clarify that the reason for moving was not to escape the lack of support or run away from the dissapoint in my community. The reason was two-fold. The first being to the stop the harm my emotions were causing to our relationship. The second reason was to gain legal protections for our relationhip (albeit only some).

One of the reasons I wanted to write this diary was to inspire hope here on the Blend; to say that change is possible and that it is taking hold here in America.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
Read it carefully QueerInSoCal
His lover, who is not a U.S. Citizen, has to leave the country. It is a bit off putting for JohnyinGA to talk about the need to "stay," and then write about moving, but if he wants to be with his lover, he HAS to move to Spain.

John didn't HAVE to move to Conn to be with his lover. I think that is the distinction.

Ah, I see you've done 'distant relationships before.' Sounds like plural...as if they work for a while, but not forever. Perhaps Johnny wants to try "forever."


[ Parent ]
I read it most carefully
and wrote my reply the same way. Both of them.

Cause any fool knows, a dog needs a home; a shelter from pigs on the wing

[ Parent ]
Clarification
We did not move to gain "personal validation" as you put it. We moved because I had become obbessed with the the issues of bigotry and equality. Nick recognized that it was having a negative impact on our lives and that we needed a change to get back into a healthy place mentally again.

You said in your commment, "And some of us need to stay in those places to keep on fighting for them.  To be visible.  To confront friends, family, co-workers, strangers on their bigotry and prejudices."

I should say now, because I did not in my diary, that prior to become an engaged activist, Nick and I were VERY out, open and honest. We NEVER let anyone keep us in the closet. I have for the last 10 years or so made it a point to out myself constantly while watching for the signs of bigotry and promptly calling the attention to it. I can also tell you that while we were in NC, our "out" presence their helped many NC gay natives become comfortable enough to come out. I also believe we effected change in the hearts and minds of probably hundreds of North Carolinians. We never kept quiet about the fact that we were engaged and we used our engagement to point out the inequity and hypocrisy to traditional marriage minded folks.

When I say that I have now become actively engaged in LGBT politics, I am in fact referring to my expansion of activism, from the average out gay man changing hearts and minds to an even more involved activist.

Additionnally, I should say that our move to Connecticut should not be viewed as giving up or dropping out of the fight. I have, since my arrival here, been working on changing the hearts and minds of CT's federal represenatives in Congress. I will be working on Alpert Merricks's senate campaign next year as he challenges the DOMA voting Senator Dodd. I've also been pressuring Rep Larson to get off of the fence on ENDA. And I'm working on Lieberman as he he is the only DOMA supporting federal politiican left in CT. I've also helped collect signatures for getting the "T" added to CT's ENDA law next year and will be involved with that campaign when it kicks in.

I guess what I'm trying to say is we have not and never won't stop fighting for equality until every L, G, B, T, Q, X, Y, and Z has the full protection of the law and is no longer denied their inherent rights.

One last note, you are criticizing me for moving when you in fact stated you are moving to Madrid full time. I get the point that you are out of options becuase of a lack of UAFA. But, I was out of options as well mentally - the place I was in mentally was damaging our relationship and I had to break the cycle.


Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
I just want to thank you for your help...
on HB6452 and your help next year. Your work is appreciated.  

[ Parent ]
No John, I'm not surprised at all.
There's a vast radicalization taking place in the United Stares because of the failure of the two parties to contain economic failure, revulsion with religious cults and bigotry and a whole bevy of unwinnable wars.

GLBT folks are, because we're under the gun, being pushed into the forefront of that radicalization and are already playing a play a key role in it. With the huge exceptions of immigrant and imported workers and their unions most other groups that need fundamental change to survive are quiescent for now. But not us. We have demonstrations all the time for our rights and most of them involve SSM. We're one of the engines driving the radicalization forward by our militancy and 'won't take no for an answer' attitude.

The fight for SSM is progressive because it's a major organizing tool for our selves and our allies. Anyone who claims that because marriage is poor partnering is we ought to surrender the field to the religious right is dead wrong.

But I do have one question, John. Connecticut? December? January? February? Sleet? Ice Storms? Nor'easters?  

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


Don't Remind Me
"Connecticut? December? January? February? Sleet? Ice Storms? Nor'easters?"

It's gonna suck - We hate the cold.

Also, I agree again - NEVER SURRENDER. They can force us against our will, but we shall never go willingly.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.


[ Parent ]
GREAT
my best wishes,and congrads,,,to both of you,as a longtime Vermonter,and proud of my state with its first attempt at civil unions (then gv dean signed the bill, behind closed doors,no publicity,later remarking... i signed it...because it was the RIGHT thing to do.... I maintain a winter home in Florida, but only several months, love the weather, but HATE the 'people climate' same as you encountered in NC. Anyhow, best wishes, to BOTH of you, for  and add'l 100 years together, of  happiness,love,and caring...HUGGS, Cody j

Blessings for your marriage and your new home
So glad that story got a happy ending!

Soon DC will have marriage equality too. I want to move there when my girlfriend and I get married. So that we can be a legitimately married couple. So far, she doesn't want to move to DC, she wants to stay here in Virginia where LGBT people have no rights at all! We shall see how this develops over time...

Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls


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