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The Peter's flaccid fed lawsuit against Holiday Inn charges 'religious discrimination'

by: Pam Spaulding

Sat Aug 29, 2009 at 08:00:00 AM EDT


Back in 2007, Americans For Truth About Homosexuality was planning to hold one of its pitiful fundraising banquets at the Holiday Inn Select in LaBarbera's town of Naperville. He told staff there that there that he expected the homophobia-laden event would draw protestors. Six weeks before the event, the hotel canceled on him, citing "potential negative publicity."

So now The Peter is dropping a federal discrimination lawsuit on Holiday Inn -- based on bias against AFATH's religious beliefs against homosexuality. OK. Look at how weak this is:

LaBarbera did not have a written contract, and no money was exchanged, but he said organizers verbally worked out details of the 100-person event, including the menu, during two meetings.

..."It's always easy to come up with excuses," said LaBarbera, AFTAH's executive director, "but the real truth is they didn't like our message. If you allow this sort of hecklers' veto, you're sanctioning discrimination."

OMG, what flaming crap that is -- "heckler's veto." How many times has the right wing protested LGBT and progressive events? If bible beating attempts at a "heckler's veto" fail to garner the desired results (cancellation, bad publicity), perhaps it's because the message is so ridiculous and offensive that no one gives a flip. When you sue a hotel for religious discrimination that you didn't even sign a contract with, that smacks of either stupidity or raw headline hunting, not a noble effort to protect religious liberty.

And when The Peter opened his trap and announced there was a potential for demonstrations outside the venue, he basically handed Holiday Inn an out -- they aren't obligated to sign a contract with any organization if the hotelier doesn't want bad publicity, potential for violence or to need extra security (after all, who knows what kind of overblown expectations The Peter relayed).

More below the fold, including reaction to the article.

 
Pam Spaulding :: The Peter's flaccid fed lawsuit against Holiday Inn charges 'religious discrimination'

In this case, the Holiday Inn Select was also going to host a wedding event on the same night as Peter's shindig and didn't want blowback from that paying customer that surely already had a contract in place. When something like this happens, it may suck for your organization, but you can always speak with your feet and take your business elsewhere. And AFATH did.

I'm having difficulty seeing any religious discrimination angle that would get this past the first review of the case. Commenters at the Daily Herald were blunt:

Peter LaBarbera's all-consuming obsession with All Things Homosexual strikes me as both incredibly un-Christian and more than a little, um, perverse. Help him, Jesus.
Lunchbox :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:41 AM+29

Is it fair to all the other guests - including an entire wedding party - to allow a controversial group gather when protesters are expected? The Holiday Inn is not a public place. You do not have freedom of speech everywhere you go. Read the constitution, in detail. This was not a case of discrimination. Hotel management simply made a sound business decision, period.
hester1 :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:52 AM-5

Nothing in writing.....no contract.....what is Mr. LaBarbera talking about? Without proof of an agreement, this case should go right into the circular file. I am also completely heterosexual, and the only time that anyone who is homosexual would bother me, would be if they tried to push their beliefs onto me. Well, that is what Mr. LaBarbera's group sounds like they do, just the opposite. Its too bad that this man scheduled this conference without booking it properly through the hotel, as evident by lack of a contract. No contract.....no case!
pn :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:34 AM+6

We still have a long way to go in treating people equally, and civil rights for gays/lesbians is a big part of this. It's too bad that Mr. LaBarbera and people like him don't realize that. Bravo to the hotel management for considering their other guests when deciding how to handle this situation.
Haereticum pro Orthodoxy :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:38 AM+15

Sounds like someone was 'fishing for media attentions', free publicity, drumming up false outrage to me, and perhaps making a fat handful of cash from a settlement.
WilsonP :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:41 AM-6

For those who support the hotel in this, imagine that the tables were turned. Suppose it was a homosexual group that had been turned down by the hotel because of "negative publicity.
Would you still support the hotel's right to discriminate in this fashion?
Sauce for the goose...
zabes :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:12 AM+9

I hear that the Klan has a hard time booking places as well.
motorcyklmikl :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:36 AM+6

Unspecified damages and attorney's fees? Get over it and move on.
used to be jimbo1958 :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:47 AM+10

Peter Laberbera
Disrupting someones wedding is more important to you, You are a shortsighted person, I know if I owned a hotel and a blissful thing like a weding reception was at my hotel and a hete filled banquet was scheduled the same night with no CONTRACTS signed you would be on the street, also I hope the judge tosses out your suit, because you didn't have a SIGNED contract. How many times have people told you, "Do you have it on paper?"
yahoos67 :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:55 AM+10

simple as this - no signed contract, no lawsuit. next.
Thu Aug 27, 2009 6:58 AM

Anyone who is that obsessed with the "gay agenda" is definitely hiding some issues of his own. As for having no written agreement, I have a bridge I'd LOVE to sell this guy. What an idiot! This has inspired me to rent a room in this hotel.
yahoos67 :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:15 AM-7

The Holiday Inn Select should have the absolute right to consider the impact an event will have on their property when deciding whether to book an event. If goofus tells them that the little soiree he has planned is going to bring down 300 protesters making the front of the hotel look the the pride parade, then he should expect to be told... "Umm, thanks for thinking of us, but we just don't think that event is in the best interests of our business." Period. There should be no guarantee that just because a group has enough money, they can go anywhere they want and do anything they want. Homo/straight, pro-life/pro-choice, pro-2nd amendment/pro-gun control - matters not the cause. Mr. LaBarbarella: it's called PRIVATE PROPERTY for a reason. Get over it dude, and go cry to someone else. I'm sure that there's a hotel somewhere in the chicago area that will gladly take your group in with open arms. Maybe even give you a big group hug while their at it...
Nancyspartan :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:50 AM+10

This group is not a Christian group - it is a hate group. Do some research. I believe that Holiday Inn has the right to say who does and does not use their site. As far as this group goes, there are forest preserves, open air park or maybe a garbage dump where they can promote their hate doctrine.
NoBS :: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:52 AM+3

The Peter must be hard up for cash and attention; I guess the purses of the seasoned citizens he scams into thinking the Homosexual Agenda is going to destroy society have slammed shut. I wonder if his BFF Bam Bam is helping him out on this legal plea for attention.

H/t, JMG.

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Didn't he brag about getting some fetish event cancelled?
Wasn’t he the one that was bragging about getting a hotel to cancel a fetish event in DC this January?

Oh, right. Hypocrisy only applies to other people.


Memory not faulty after all. Yay.
Now that I’m not operating on 3 hours of sleep, here’s the link: Breaking News: Victory for Decency: Homosexual ‘Pig Sex’ Organizers Cancel Orgy at Doubletree Hotel.

To quote Porno Pete in criticism of his own acts, “If you allow this sort of hecklers’ veto, you’re sanctioning discrimination.”


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Oh Peter
Now you will have to find another revenue source for those fabulous ass-less chaps you've been just dying to appear in at the next Folsom Street Fair.

Maybe Bam Bam Barber will lend you his -- that is, if you promise to have them profesionally cleaned after you've finished "photographing" the events....

Oh, and please work on the combover, nkay?


Something similar happened with a motorcycle gang in my hometown
The leader of a notorious outlaw motorcycle gang signed a contract with a hotel for a wedding reception. When the hotel found out who they were, they cancelled the event.

The leader's daughter is a lawyer who often sues people on behalf of the gang. She sued the hotel and lost.

The strangest thing was that the local newspaper sided with the motorcycle gang! I even had a nasty e-mail exchange with the editor, who called himself a strict civil libertarian.

The case went to trial. It ended up that the jury didn't like the idea of a motorcycle gang stirring up trouble in their community.

LaBarbera's case will get the same result. A jury will be disgusted with him and his organization. All the hotel has to do is show what he does.

So, it won't even come down to who is right and who is wrong as far as discrimination or breaking an oral agreement goes. It will come down to reasonable people being revolted by him.

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.


Protected Classes
Outlaw Motorcycle Gang (OMG) members, or 1%ers, are not a protected class.  It is perfectly legal to discriminate against them, same as with smokers.  I'm surprised they haven't started their own church to try that angle.

The Peter is claiming religious discrimination because that often does provide protected class status.  Of course, he would have to prove that it was his religious belief and not his discriminatory philosophy that caused the hotel to decline his business.  Seems it would be easy enough to find plenty of Christian organizations that don't share LaBarbera's bigotry.

What about the white supremacist "identity" Christian churches?  Same thing.  I don't think Holiday Inn would want to host them either.


[ Parent ]
And he's not a church
He runs what at best can be described as a political organization.

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.


[ Parent ]
Homemade porn distribution company is closer to the truth


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This is great........
The more he makes an ass of himself and the more publicly it is done the better.

It's NOT a "flaccid lawsuit"!
It's a STRONG, TURGID, GROWING, THROBBING, MIGHTY and HUGE LAwsu... oh.

Whoops, premature explanation.

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[ Parent ]
GAH!!!
We did not need that image of the peter!!!

I am the lizard queen!

[ Parent ]
Love you for that


"Oh, I thought you meant a specific plan. With maps and stuff." -Buffy

[ Parent ]
Be glad I'm in Britain...
because if I was in the US I'd be sending you the medical bill for the surgery I needed last night to sew up the side I split laughing.

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I can't think of any reputable hotel that would hold you a spot 6 weeks out
Regardless of the reason given for the cancellation business is business. The hotel would have to set aside the venue (Which also often includes setting aside a number of rooms); hire extra security, notify the police and fire safety to be on hand, and make meal preparations including ordering the menu in advance. If no money or contract had changed hands 6 weeks prior to the event I can't think of any hotel that would go through all of that unless they where sponsoring the event out right. But I also don't know of any hotel that doesn't have that little sign right on the front desk that says "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."
:)    

Always thinking about it...

You're perfectly right
I've had experience running events at hotels--writers conferences, SF conventions, etc.  Most hotels have their space booked months in advance, sometimes more than a year.  And they want contracts signed, sealed and delivered as far in advance as possible.  Staging even a small event at a hotel requires a good deal of logistical planning, allocation of resources, staffing concerns, etc.  For this baboon to expect a hotel to save space for him and his playmates a mere six weeks in advance without having a signed contract is simply one more demonstration of how delusional he is.

As a side note, I can't help but notice how the right-wingers always claim anti-discrimination laws are evil but don't mind invoking them themselves for every perceived slight.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


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You're right
And if no money had changed hands and no contract was ever signed, with only six weeks remaining, what exactly is the hotel "cancelling," anyway?  It sounds like they had only talked about the event in the vaguest terms.

This makes me think that the supposed plans for the "big event" were tentative at best, or that expected registrations never materialized, and that the REAL reason the hotel cancelled was that Peter L. never did come up with a deposit or something similar.  What do you want to bet the hotel's motivation is a little more basic than the prospect of protestors or the nature of the group?


[ Parent ]
We should be rooting for him to win
The Peter is dropping a federal discrimination lawsuit on Holiday Inn -- based on bias against AFATH's religious beliefs against homosexuality

And if this line of thinking prevails, that would mean that if one of us was fired or not hired by a christianist, we could file a religious discrimination suit - saying that OUR religious beliefs about homosexuality, transsexuality, etc. (namely, that there's nothing wrong with them) were being violated.

Go, Peter, go!

>^..^<


The hotel should have put the burden back on LaBarbera
to estimate how many protesters would be expected.  Then get an estimate of the additional costs to provide security at his controversial event.  Oh, plus a signed contract, deposit and security costs open ended in case they exceeded estimates.  I think LaBarbera then would have canceled on the hotel.



Knowing Petey he'll bring up himself as the Virgin Mary...no room at the Inn complex


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Knowing Petey he'll bring up himself as the Virgin Mary...no room at the Inn complex


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Good Customers
I'm a Platinum Priority Club (Holiday Inn) member.  This kind of event at a hotel where I was staying would make me uncomfortable enough to stay elsewhere.  I have found that the Holiday Inn chain has always treated me and my partner wonderfully when we travel.  I know gays have a way to go on civil rights, but let' face it, we are an economical force to deal with.

Nobody's brought this up yet?
That "The Peter" is disregarding the wish for a heterosexual couple to marry in peace without anyone bothering it? Don't Mess With Marriage indeed!

"Oh, I thought you meant a specific plan. With maps and stuff." -Buffy

It's Not Religious Discrimination
when you're a pornographer.

And Holiday Inn should use that in their defense: Peter is WAY more famous and known for his gay pornography than for his "Jesus work".

I'm no fan of Alan Colmes, and even he hinted to Peter that he enjoys his pornography career a little too much.

Not that I'm personally against pornography - just only when you're making pornography without at least paying your involuntary actors a tip.  That's cheapskate shit!


I wonder that it's never occurred to him
The Peter could make way more money from the Holiday Inn by selling his homemade gay porn to them for in-room entertainment than by suing them for religious discrimination.

And while we're on the subject, for anyone looking for good gay, lesbian, trans, and genderqueer porn, I recommend the Crash Pad series. Excellent stuff. Google it.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


[ Parent ]
I've heard of Crashpad
There was a review on Fem.men.ist a few months ago. Doesn't sound like your run-of-the-mill hump & dump.

____________________________________
Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.


[ Parent ]
No better than a two year old
Peter wants any attention he can get-he's no better than a 2 year old child, and he never grew out of the toddler's desire for attention. Grow up, Peter.  

Oh poor Pete
I know he's reading this because the thin skinned bastard can't handle any blowback (EVER).

I really feel sorry for his wife and kids, he's broke (or on the verge), she's got nothing in a retirement account, spare a pair of leather chaps and there are 5 kids to put through college.

I watched my father work his ass off to provide for his family doing construction.  I've always been proud of how hard he worked and what he did to put food on the table (and I'm almost 40).

What do you think Pete's kids will have to be proud of when they're 40?


What do you think Pete's kids will have to be proud of when they're 40?
Getting out.

[ Parent ]
When They're Living In An Affluent Neighborhood
(as according to this website: http://www.phatpage.org/news/0... why would they WANT to leave? LOL

I don't see how anybody could be living above their means when their primary source of income is from.....basically doing NOTHING!  Unless somebody keeps on financially bailing him out, and you know whoever THAT is will eventually get tired of it.  

I'd hate to see anybody bankrupt themselves, especially if they have kids to take care of.  But I can't have too much sympathy if daddy's what I call a "too good": too good to live in an average neighborhood in, too good to live in a modest house without all the bells and whistles, and too good to live like the rest of us - when he's not even a celebrity.


[ Parent ]
Credit
Another thing that wouldn't surprise me, and it's been kinda popular with conniving people lately - is taking out credit or credit cards in the name of one of their children.  

I don't know how many times I've read about parents ruining their childrens credit before they're even old enough to graduate high school.

Now THAT would be lower than low if that were the case.  AFTAH is NOT worth keeping afloat; it's like putting your money on a horse with a broken leg.


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