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Maine: No on 1 Has Small Lead, But the Race is STILL CLOSE!

by: atdnext

Wed Oct 14, 2009 at 12:54:21 PM EDT


(This is great stuff, but you KNOW the opposition will get the big bucks from NOM etc now! - promoted by Louise)

(Also at Nevada Progressive)

We have some good news today on the Maine front.

According to new poll data, 51.8 percent of people who plan to vote in November say they will vote no or are leaning in that direction on question 1, the people's veto of Maine's same-sex marriage law.

The poll shows that 42.9 percent plan to vote yes, or are leaning that way. And 5.2 percent remain undecided.A "no" vote would allow the same-sex marriage law to stand. A "yes" vote would overturn the law.

The poll was from Portland-based Pan Atlantic SMS Group, which released its fall Omnibus Poll today. [..] According to Pan Atlantic, the survey is of 401 Mainers who identified themselves as "likely" voters in the Nov. 3 election. The margin of error is plus or minus 4.9 percent at the 95 percent confidence level.

So either we have quite a tiny lead or we're starting to see a larger lead. But most likely, No on 1 is leading by just under 9%. Folks, that's still too close for comfort.

atdnext :: Maine: No on 1 Has Small Lead, But the Race is STILL CLOSE!
And Gerald at Dirigo Blue has the internals. While we're holding our own in the more progressive Portland based 1st District (only 34.2% voting Yes on 1), we're still being clobbered in the more conservative 2nd District up north (51.8% voting Yes on 1). And when leaners are taken out, we just have 50.6% knowing for sure they will vote No on 1.

So basically, we still have a lot of work to do. The No on 1 ads are clearly working in turning around public opinion, but now we need to focus on turning out the No on 1 vote. By the way, here's the latest No on 1 ad that's turning on the waterworks for my eyes.

Here's another recent ad fighting back against blatant Yes on 1 lies.

Now if we want to keep seeing ads like this on the air, we need to donate so the No on 1 campaign can afford it. And if we want to help the campaign turn out the No on 1 votes needed to win, we need to volunteer for virtual phone banking! There's just no getting around it. We can't afford to be lazy.

Remember this time last year? Remember when all of a sudden, what was thought to be an "easy win" for No on 8 California suddenly became a losing campaign? Do we really want to see a repeat of that in Maine? Let's remember that the very same people who ran the disgustingly deceptive and hateful Yes on H8 California campaign are doing it again this year in Maine. There's nothing they won't consider doing to trip us up and steal away our civil rights.

As I've said before, I'm sick and tired of seeing LGBT families being kicked around like political footballs. I'm also sick and tired of hateful idiots trying to capitalize on "momentum" in Washington and Maine to spread the discrimination to states like mine... And here in Nevada, we'll only be trying to protect domestic partnerships! So don't think what happens in Maine won't affect you, as they may already be planning to hit your state next!

Again, this is why we must keep fighting. No matter what the poll numbers say, this will be a hard fought race all the way to the last minute before polls close on November 3. So please, please remember to donate what you can through tomorrow to ensure No on 1 has what it takes to win!

Thanks.

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I have a bunch of charts and the source data on this
The "indoctrination" theme doesn't seem to be working well anymore.

http://www.tips-q.com/1475890-...

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com


Sample size is pretty tiny, 401
so cautious optimism is warranted, but good news nonetheless. From everything I'm reading the No on 1 folks seem to be running a good game (and the yes on 1, not so much...)

Yes, Jesse Connolly
(No on 1 campaign manager) is my hero. The man knows what he is doing and is running a very effective campaign. Still, we have three weeks to go and I won't rest until Nov. 4. If you can donate money or time or both, please do. It is crucial to the fight. My ActBlue page:

http://www.actblue.com/page/bc...

Thanks!

L


[ Parent ]
Yeah, But There Was An Equality March!
Who needed to go to Maine to help out on the referendum when there was a PARTY in Washington, D.C.!!

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tired ill informed statement
is this a repeat of the pre- march claims that it was going to be a big party and that it would take away focus from work on(insert your local/state fight here)?  or perhaps you're confusing the HRC fundraising party (why weren't those people in maine instead of spending $250 for a dinner & lady gaga?) with the action the following day.  
what i'm hoping is the use of all caps PARTY was a misunderstood attempt at humor, aimed at those who seem to feel that the movement is incapable of doing more than one thing at a time, and that when masses of gays gather they are incapable of doing anything but PARTY.

folk the war

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In line with other polling...
but, it's also in line with polling taken in California before proposition 8 passed.  The rule is, all the undecideds go to the anti-gay side.  That would leave a tiny 51-49 ish lead...well within the margin of error.  Frankly, unless I see something in the upper 50's for the No side, I expect this legislation to PASS.

I also think the No on 1 campaign, like its counterpart in California, has been too defensive and let the opposition control the dialogue.  I hope I'm wrong about the legislation passing obviously, but I don't think they ran this campaign strongly enough.


Too Pessimistic
I don't think upper 50s is the bar. Maybe mid-50s to feel confident. I do agree, though, that the current polling is within the margin of error.

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[ Parent ]
In August of last year in California...
it was 55% No on 8 to 39% Yes.  Of course, I'd argue that the Field Poll and PPC had some sort of built-in biases...I have to wonder how they approached interviewing their poll subjects.  But at the very least it goes to show you have to take these numbers with a huge grain of salt.

[ Parent ]
August Is Not October
Obviously, the numbers moved in Calfornia after August.  

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Yes...
But they were still around 51% by September/October as I recall.  This is nitpicking, though.  The point is, polls are untrustworthy.

[ Parent ]
I'd like to think we are teachable...
Yes, what happened in California was horrible and people paid too much attention to the polls and so on and so on...

I'd like to think we learn from our mistakes. The campaign here in Maine is going well and is upbeat. We believe we can win and polls like this fuel our momentum.

Bruno, what have you done to help us? Have you donated money? Take time to work a phone bank? Come here to Maine to canvass? Instead of telling us how we should be all quivering in fear of a repeat of last year, come here and help us make history. As they say, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

L

PS, In case you are wondering I have: 1) given money; 2) phonebanked (30+ hours); and 3) voted last Friday. I'll be marching in Monument Square on Sunday. NO on 1!


[ Parent ]
Thanks!
I donated money, and I'll probably give more.

It's important we continue to give what we can, because the cost of the progressive issue of equality is always more than the conservative side which is to stay the same.  Progress comes with a price and each No vote costs more to obtain, because it represents change.

I like the No on 1 ads.  That's one reason I gave.  They sound confident ("It won't work.") and they're answering the smears head on.  This rather than letting them define us.  They're confident, strong, and tough when needed, and we need more of that in the progressive arena.  


[ Parent ]
Suggested Commercial
Show part of Cynthia Nixon's speech at the National Equality March:

"Our right to marry is of paramount importance whether you as an individual gay person listening to me right now want to get to married now or ever. It is important because when a country has different laws for different categories of people it sends its population a message - that the different group of people with lesser rights are somehow inferior and less deserving of respect and are in fact not fully human. And that message is heard loud and clear by the worst elements in our society. And it instructs them that if they are looking for someone to bully or beat or even kill; if they are looking for someone vulnerable to prey upon, gay people are a ready target."

And intersperse it with this video:

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