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Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act Passes - Reactions

by: Lurleen

Thu Oct 22, 2009 at 17:45:33 PM EDT


UPDATE (9PM ET): More reactions are below the fold.
From National Center for Transgender Equality:
Hate Crimes Bill Passes
Historic First Federal Protections of Transgender People

In an historic move, the United States Senate, by a vote of 68 to 29, joined the House of Representatives in passing The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, which will be the first federal law to include gender identity and transgender people. Once signed by the President, this law will add sexual orientation, gender identity, gender and disability to the categories included in existing federal hate crimes law and will allow local governments who are unable or unwilling to address hate crimes to receive assistance from the federal government. President Obama has indicated that he will sign the bill into law.

"Transgender people have been waiting so many years for assistance from the federal government in addressing the rampant and disproportional violence that we face," noted Mara Keisling, Executive Director of the National Center for Transgender Equality. "Today we move one step closer to our goal of ending violence motivated by hatred.  Everyone in America deserves to live free of fear and of violence. We know that the dedicated leadership and hard work of Senator Kennedy and Representative Conyers and many other legislators made the passage of this bill possible. Words can't really express our gratitude for their commitment to equality for all people."

In the past, federal law has only mentioned gender identity in a negative context, such as explicitly excluding transgender people from the Americans with Disabilities Act. The passage of the hate crimes bill marks a significant turning point from the days in which the federal government contributed to the oppression of transgender people to today when federal law takes action to protect our lives.

The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act will have a number of positive impacts. First, it will help educate law enforcement about the frequent hate violence against transgender people and the need to prevent and appropriately address it.  Second, it will help provide federal expertise and resources when it is needed to overcome a lack of resources or the willful inaction on the part of local and/or state law enforcement.  Third, it will help educate the public that violence against anyone is unacceptable and illegal.

Transgender people continue to be disproportionately targeted for bias motivated violence. Thirteen states and Washington, DC have laws which include transgender people in state hate crimes laws.

Lurleen :: Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act Passes - Reactions
The National Gay & Lesbian Task Force
Dear Lurleen,

I've got some amazing news!

Today, the Senate passed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act.

Now that this bill has passed both the House and the Senate, it's on to President Obama's desk for his signature.

For years, Task Force supporters like you have spoken out, written letters to Congress, and signed thousands and thousands of petitions demanding federal hate crimes protections for LGBT Americans. I'm proud to say that after all your efforts, we are now just a signature away from making these protections a reality.

President Obama has promised to sign this bill into law. When he does, it will usher in a new era, one in which hate-filled violence will no longer be overlooked, undercounted or tolerated.

This is a victory for the Task Force, for LGBT people, and for everyone committed to justice and equality. Together we rejected efforts to protect some but not all by demanding that gender identity be included in the law. And you spoke out - loudly and clearly - against efforts to twist hate crimes protections into an excuse to expand the injustice of the death penalty.

Today, we have taken an important step forward on the march to full equality. We still have a long road ahead of us, but with your continued support and action, and with the unwavering commitment of the LGBT community and straight allies, we will finally create a world where no one will be subjected to violence or any other injustice simply for living their lives, honestly and openly, and being who they are.

Thank you again for standing with us through this fight, and for helping achieve this historic victory.

Sincerely,
Rea Carey, Executive Director
National Gay and Lesbian Task Force

People For the American Way President Michael B. Keegan:

"This is a key victory for the LGBT community and all those concerned with equality across the country. After more than a decade of fighting for equal protection under the law from hate crimes, Congress has affirmed that no one should be forced to live in fear of violence because of who they are.

"Hate crimes legislation has consistently been demonized by the right wing and their allies in Congress. They've said that the bill would punish preachers for speaking out against homosexuality, and religious leaders and their supporters would be jailed. They portrayed the hate crimes legislation as a 'threat to religious liberty,' and spread the lie that churches will be silenced if this bill passed. Today's strong bipartisan vote should put an end to such misrepresentations.

"Each year, thousands of Americans become victims of violent crimes because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, and disability. The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act will direct important federal resources to help local law enforcement fight violent hate crimes, and authorizes federal law enforcement to step in when locals don't. Today's vote is all the more important because it marks the first time gender identity will receive positive protection in federal law.

The Matthew Shepard Foundation:

"Dennis and I are extremely proud of the Senate for once again passing this historic measure of protection for victims of these brutal crimes," said Judy Shepard, president of the Matthew Shepard Foundation Board. "Knowing that the president will sign it, unlike his predecessor, has made all the hard work this year to pass it worthwhile. Hate crimes continue to affect far too many Americans who are simply trying to live their lives honestly, and they need to know that their government will protect them from violence, and provide appropriate justice for victims and their families."

National Jewish Democratic Council's CEO Ira N. Forman:

Today's action by the U.S. Senate is a testament to the strong leadership of our Democratic House and Senate leadership in passing hate crimes legislation - legislation which has been delayed for far too long. The American Jewish community has reached a virtual consensus in supporting hate crime legislation for so many key reasons; most importantly, these despicable actions victimize a much larger community, while fostering intolerance and bigotry.

At a time when the hand of extremist violence can be seen all too frequently, this essential legislation will expand the scope of the federal hate-crimes law and lend a powerful tool to law enforcement to combat hate crimes. NJDC applauds our Senate and House Democratic leaders for addressing this top Jewish community priority, and we look forward to the President signing this bill into law.

Kevin Cathcart, Executive Director of Lambda Legal:

"We anticipate that President Obama will sign the Hate Crimes Prevention Act which will become the first federal law that specifically protects the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. Years after the tragic murders of Matthew Shepard, Brandon Teena , Sakia Gunn and others our government is finally standing up and saying: No more. This law will send a message that violence motivated by hate will not be tolerated in this country and is a welcome first step towards other critical protections for the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community."

Lambda Legal represented the family and estate of Brandon Teena, a transgender man who was brutally raped and murdered in Nebraska in 1993 (the subject of the movie "Boys Don't Cry") to make sure that the law enforcement officials who had failed Teena were held accountable.

"This law comes too late to provide justice for the victims of violence we have already lost, but it holds the promise of greater safety and respect for LGBT people today and in the future." Cathcart said.

"Now that the Hate Crimes Act has passed adding protections for all members of our community against violence motivated by hate, Congress must also pass an inclusive ENDA to protect us against discrimination on the job. The majority of Americans support workplace protections for lesbians, gay men, bisexuals and transgender people and there is no reason for further delay."

Winnie Stachelberg, Senior Vice President for External Affairs at American Progress:

"Today the United States Senate passed the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Prevention Act, turning the page on a dark era for the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community. I clearly remember the day 11 years ago when I learned that Matthew Shepard had been found beaten and abandoned in rural Wyoming. The murder told gay and lesbian Americans across the country that we were not safe. And the federal government could not help to prosecute this crime. Lack of federal support forced the Laramie Sherriff's Office to furlough five deputies for the Shepard investigation.

"This story repeats itself all too regularly for transgender Americans. A transgender woman named Tyli'a Mack was recently stabbed to death in a likely hate crime this August, blocks away from the Capitol. But once again the federal government was not able to provide assistance.

"Today's vote changes that. It firmly places the federal government on the side of LGBT Americans and sends a clear message that homophobia and transphobia are unacceptable. The bill urges police to take into account the homophobia and transphobia that undergird too many crimes, while giving law enforcement agencies around the country the tools they have asked for to effectively fight these crimes. This assistance is especially critical at a time when police department budgets are already being cut.

"Just as importantly, this bill starts Congress and the White House down the path toward full equality for LGBT Americans. Further progress will require a broad and engaged coalition and plenty of hard work. But I am confident that we can continue to move forward with the support of President Obama and congressional leadership on repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell, protecting LGBT workers from discrimination, and recognizing all our relationships. I look forward to President Barack Obama signing this bill into law next week."

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Hooray!

"Money is the only thing they respond to, the only thing they understand. The vision of the Founding Fathers is dead. The Constitution is dead. Only bribery remains." -RW Givens


One down, a couple of more to go
Excellent! Now onto ENDA, repealing DADT, and other bills. I'm happy but not ready to rest.

Exactly, Alvin
I need another piece of LGBT legislation (or 2) to consider voting for Obama again...

Of course, he could theoretically sign 4 or 5 pieces of legislation and I wouldn't vote for him but the chances of that are very very high...

We need to keep the pressure up on Obama and the Dems...


[ Parent ]
Yeah
Also the fact that signing the legislation is different from actively trying to get Congress on board - I want to see him actually going before the House and Senate etc. to make a case for the other bills.  It's not like this victory is Obama's victory, though obviously it wouldn't become law without his signature.  I give more credit to Congress overall, and of course ultimate credit to our fantastic grassroots communities.

[ Parent ]
Well, all Obama did more or less
was write a short position paper on the damn thing, really...not much of a bully pulpit but still...

It does help to have a president who will sign the damn thing.


[ Parent ]
That's what I mean about the "bully pulpit"...
...it's been non-existent so far.

Yay for signing.  But not extra cookies.


[ Parent ]
Yeah because obviously...
The President has never said a WORD publically in support of the LGBT rights.

Fact is the President does not need to go before congress to get the bills passed. The important part is that the bills pass and that the President sign it.

He has already given public support (on several occasions) for ENDA and other LGBT friendly laws.


[ Parent ]
in spite of the fact
that you dont think that gay folks are suffering.

[ Parent ]
Making a cutesy speech about us
is NOT the same as using the bully pulpit.  That's why it's called the bully pulpit.

[ Parent ]
Folks...
Let's not forget the UAFA...my lover is still in Venezuela and I can't get him into the country. 4 years and counting.

"Money is the only thing they respond to, the only thing they understand. The vision of the Founding Fathers is dead. The Constitution is dead. Only bribery remains." -RW Givens


[ Parent ]
The world loks a tiny biy sweeter now.
So long overdue!  Let's hope it's not the last good law we get.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


*bit
Damn.  It's the keyboard's fault, not mine.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary


[ Parent ]
was just reading this at HuffPo
35 GOP Senators Vote Against Defense Bill With Hate-Crimes Amendment

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Same pattern in the House....

Repug hawks there who normally will vote for any bill that gives more money to the military proved their homohatred trumps their militarism by voting against this one, and demonstrating as I've observed before that if they didn't hate us more than they even hate Obama DADT's weakening of national security would be another charge they'd be hurling at him.

But Brava for Judy Shepard who instead of letting her grief understandably bury her turned it into a crusade that fewer mothers would get that, "I'm sorry to inform you that...." call."

In my heart I kneel down....


[ Parent ]
This may backfire for the ones who voted against the bill
next election time their opponents could show how they voted against the county's fighting men and women.

That won't go over well with conservatives.



Cisgender. Because "Genetic" (or non) is so 2006.


[ Parent ]
Good
the assholes deserve to suffer for it.

[ Parent ]
payback
35 Senators just bought themselves some HATE of their own, LGBTs will actively support anyone who runs against you. How did Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham vote? Cuz messing with you own TRIBE is seriously offensive, your campaigns will get our SPECIAL attention, I guarantee it.

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


cloture vote
NAYs ---35
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Not Voting - 1
Hatch (R-UT)  

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
final vote
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)

Not Voting - 3
Byrd (D-WV)
Hatch (R-UT)
Murkowski (R-AK)
 

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
I don't see McCain there.
Did he actually vote for it?

I am the lizard queen!

[ Parent ]
McCain voted with REPIGS for cloture, then switched to aye


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
I looked at the link AmericaBlog had and it listed McCain as nay on final vote???


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Huh?
Feingold (D-WI)


[ Parent ]
what?
Why did Feingold vote against Cloture?

[ Parent ]
Oh......I get it....
It was the defense bill that Feingold was probably opposed to...not the hate crimes bill...

[ Parent ]
As am I
It's really too bad that while we're celebrating the passage of the hate crimes bill, it also guarantees funding for these horrible wars :(  The ultimate of mixed bags!

[ Parent ]
they were going to pass a defense bill anyways at least got something they couldn't stop


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
I think Feingold's vote was about defense spending


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
probably
due to some aspect of the Defense Measure, not because of us. I don't know the particulars, but he's not in favor of the insane defense spending typical of the Congress every year. Feingold is one of our allies, I wouldn't hold this against him.

"Money is the only thing they respond to, the only thing they understand. The vision of the Founding Fathers is dead. The Constitution is dead. Only bribery remains." -RW Givens


[ Parent ]
It's either a protest over escalation in Afghanistan, or an airplane he wanted scraped


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
I'm pretty sure
that this is the first gay rights bill to ever be signed into law...

I'll give Dems credit they all held together except Byrd who didn't vote


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


I think Byrd is not altogether present
Has he even been physically IN the Senate in the last while?

[ Parent ]
Byrd voted yes on cloture
Then booked after cloture. He's been there, he even managed the Homeland Security Appropriations thing. Which is actually good news because we do need his vote for some things.

[ Parent ]
I wonder if Hatch abstained because utah = Hate State


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Hatch sees the tide coming in
Orrin Hatch is one of my senators, so I can perhaps lend a bit of insight here.

Hatch does not care either way about gay rights, but he can see the writing on the wall.  The tide is turning on the issue.  

Furthermore, he handily won reelection last year, meaning he has five years to go before he has to face the voters again, so an abstain isn't going to hurt him.  Especially if he can sing a song about how he didn't want to vote against "the troops."  A "yes" would have gotten the Utahns riled up, but he can see that voting against the historic first piece of federal gay rights legislation might come back to haunt him in 5 or 11 years.

Bennett, on the other hand, faces an election next year, and he's got a credible primary challenger on his right, so he can't afford to do anything that gives his opponent something to harp on.


[ Parent ]
For all the states that didn't have Hate Crimes bills, like LA this is HUGE!


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


actually
You might be surprised to know that Louisiana has extended their hate crimes laws to cover sexual orientation...however now the trans people of that state will be protected as well!

[ Parent ]
You sure that sexual orientation in LA wasn't just New Orleans?
I hadn't heard LA had hate crimes bill statewide

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
LA didn't have hate crimes
list of states without hate crime provisions for sexual orientation:

alabama
alaska
arkansas
georgia
idaho
indiana
minnesota
mississippi
montana
north carolina
north dakota
ohio
oklahoma
pennsylvania
south carolina
south dakota
utah
virginia
west virginia
wyoming

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
ooops got this backwards LA did have hate crimes my mistake


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
I thought MN had hate crimes bill statewide, must have just been Minneapolis


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Minnesota DID.
Unfortunately it was struck down by the State Supreme Court in 2003 and obviously with a Repig governor getting it reinstated is Not Gonna Happen.

All the more reason we need a DFLer who isn't just a log with "NOT PAWLENTY" scrawled on it.


[ Parent ]
thanks kitty
I moved to LA from MN in 2002

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Definitely. Like Oklahoma...
It reminds me of the guy who was just attacked in OK and whose attacker won't be charged with a hate crime since OK doesn't have them for sexuality.  This will change in future cases, finally.

http://www.fox23.com/mostpopul...


[ Parent ]
YEA!!
Does anyone know when President Obama may sign this into law and where?

I'd guess with in a week
probably fly Mrs Shepard in for the signing

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
I'm hoping sooner
Some of us need the Defense bill signed so we can stay employed next week.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

[ Parent ]
No surprise here in Oklahoma
Our two Republican Senators (Coburn, Inhofe) voted against it.

 

Cisgender. Because "Genetic" (or non) is so 2006.


When when all the things
the bigots claimed will happen don't, it will destroy the credibility their arguments against the rest of our bills would have had.

I am the lizard queen!

Only if the media
actually do a little bit of fact-checking when they claim that there has been a massive government roundup of homophobic preachers.  Because they will claim that people have been arrested for "preaching the word of God", and none of the major media outlets will be willing to point out that no, all the people they put forward as examples will actually have been charged with other, actual crimes.  The next thing you know, the whole Republican congressional contingent will be pushing through a "religious freedom restoration act" to legalize hetero-supremacist violence in the streets.

[ Parent ]
Can we please remember...
That Obama is a homobigot that hates gay people!

He'll probably veto the bill because of his obvious hate of the LGBT community.

Vote Republican in 2010 and 2012...becaue they hate gays openly.


never again
  http://www.tchastings.com/Matt...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
You know just ONCE...
I'd like to see someone in the LGBT media acknowledge that the bill includes James Byrd Jr.

I've always found it appalingly myopic the way some folks sort of gloss over James Byrd Jr. The man was conscious, dragged behind a truck for miles and eventually decapitated but some kind of way Matthew Sheppard is the one everyone remembers.


[ Parent ]
you just did


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Oh I didnt think the blacks
wanted to be mentioned in the same breath with the gays and their nasty lifestyle.

[ Parent ]
that snark was at geek, of course


[ Parent ]
I have actually
been in 2 racist homophobic hate crime attacks (the perps in the first were black, in the second attack, the perp was white)

forgive me if I can't tell the difference between the 2, geek.


[ Parent ]
at the risk of being skewered . . .
I think geek is saying let's not forget all of those suffering because of hate crimes. It's a great victory for us all.

Personally, I have to say let's not spoil this moment. It's a great victory but more is needed. I got a little taste of victory and I'm becoming accustomed to it. I want some more.


[ Parent ]
I don't think anyone is
In the LGBT press, I have often heard the 2 crimes mentioned together (and I often think of the 2 crimes at the same time myself).

Of course, you don't hear any support from the black community regarding Matthew Sheperd much less the nummber of hate crimes perpetuated against black gay men.

For example, no outcry from the black community regarding the "black fag" comment...

of course, "black fags" dont exist...


[ Parent ]
or black lesbians for that matter...
(see, even I forget, sometimes)

[ Parent ]
Ohh Kevin
you do make me laugh so.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.

[ Parent ]
I wonder how many heads are exploding
in Colorado Springs, Colorado

(headquarters of Focus On The Family)

Cisgender. Because "Genetic" (or non) is so 2006.


crossing fingers.....ALL OF THEM
and f*cktard Tony Perkins TOO

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
but wait. . .
MSNBC is saying it is not clear if Obama will sign the bill because some weapons programs were funded which he and the Pentagon do not want. Anybody have any clarification on this?

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.

Working on it
In the meantime, defense contractors pressuring Daniel Inouye to strip the rape victim protections amendment.

Oh, HELL NO.

I'm researching which contracting firms did it. If my firm was one of them, I'm publicly resigning. I'm sure the Women's forum would LOVE to hear about that.


God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


[ Parent ]
Wow! Finall, great news!
This is amazing.  I have to touch myself to realize this isn't a dream.

I feel like crying tears of JOY.
:-)  :-)   :-)


will someone be keeping track
of the number of pastors who will be imprisoned?

Pastors preaching hate
don't deserve to be pastors.

"Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis."

[ Parent ]
Alvin McEwen over at Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters will be keeping track
He will be putting up a clock when Obama signs the bill to determine how long it will take until a preacher is arrested for anti-gay speech from the pulpit. That clock will run for a very very very very very very long time.

Close the GayTM. Only give to candidates who have actually done something other than make promises - most are just pandering for our cash.

[ Parent ]
Meh
While certainly this is a good thing, it doesn't affect the day to day lives of most gay and lesbian people. I'm concerned that Obama can now say he did something for the gay community and rest on that for awhile before he takes on something that has more substantial effect (DOMA, ENDA)

This law provides a basis for establishing us as a "suspect class" at a federal level
So I'm not complaining.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

[ Parent ]
You sure?
The law is based on "sexual orientation." It doesn't specify which orientations would be part of a suspect class. Theoretically law would cover hate crimes against straight people for how straight they are.

[ Parent ]
Pretty sure
The definition of a "suspect class" is a presumptively unconstitutional distinction made between individuals on the basis of race, national origin, alienage, or religious affiliation, in a statute, ordinance, regulation, or policy.

To be determined suspect class under the strict scrutiny definition, a group must be a discrete or insular minority, possess an immutable trait, share a history of discrimination, and be powerless to protect themselves via the political process.

If you look at the legislative history surrounding this bill, as well as court cases around the country, you will see time and again examples of the "shared history of discrimination," the fact our sexuality and gender identity is immutable, that we are a very definite minority who are legislated against in ways that violate several provisions of the Constitution (namely, the 5th and 14th Amendments), that there are attempts to distort or rig the political process against us, and that due to our small number we lack sufficient power to seek redress through the political process.

This has been aptly demonstrated at multiple state levels, but this is the first time that the federal government has acknowledged that we are an insular minority have a history of discrimination, and that we lack the power to seek redress when violent crimes are committed against us at the state level, requiring federal intervention.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


[ Parent ]
As a note
it does protect straight people for how straight they are -- which was part of the intention all along.

It's also based in Gender identity, which protects cisfolks for how cis they are.

The nature of federal law is such that it must protect all persons equally, inclusive of those who happen to have the power.

Your suggestion that it doesn't is akin to the idea that racial hate crimes don't protect white folks.

Oh, and hate crimes does affect the day to day lives of transfolk, since, for the first time, it allows for the recording and record keeping of attacks on persons on the basis of their gender identity (which is defined to include gender expression).

Which, at the least, means that we might actually start reporting them, given they happen surprisingly often.

http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...


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That is true
The FBI can't officially document numbers of hate crimes against populations unless those populations are defined in the hate crimes definition by federal code. They can - and do - unofficially track. But the numbers won't be reported to Congress, or to any Cabinet agency such as Health and Human Services, for real action.

Now that can start happening. Which means real action can finally be taken.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


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That's why we keep the pressure on...
But...he will be the first President of the US to sign legislation like this for LGBTs. Having been subjected to 4 crimes of this type (that I didn't report) it does affect our day to day lives...

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But what now
I'm just worried he's going to use it as an excuse to stall on everything else. He might say, "Well, I've given you this already, so now you have to wait."

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While this worries me too...
It would be the case for whatever first major victory we got.  Since the alternate would be never to have a first major victory on an issue, I don't see it making sense to then worry too much about it.  We just don't let up on the other issues that affect us.

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I believe
we will get ENDA and DADT repeal under his presidency.  Repeal of DOMA is something I'm much more skeptical about, but I certainly hope so anyway.

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This will buy Democrats and Obama some goodwill
any way you slice it, it is one promise fulfilled for us.
I agree inclusive ENDA, and repeal of DADT, and immigration reforms are what we need to apply pressure.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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It would be a good idea to write to thank Democratic Senators and your Congress person
It never hurts to send them something positive, and encouraging to take more baby steps, especially in states where supporting LGBT Rights is dangerous for their careers.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


I was pleasantly suprised my Republican Representative voted aye
I noticed David Dreier and Patrick McHenry two outed queers voted no.....f*cktards!
Here's a link for the congressional vote
  http://projects.washingtonpost...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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A MUST
Not just a good idea to thank Senators and Congress persons that supported this bill... A MUST! There WILL be a blow back from the opposition against these lawmakers. We must show them we stand behind them in full support. ENDA is next up in the legislative cue and will be voted on soon. Keep the pressure up. Especially in the Senate. That is where ENDA will live or die.

It's up to US!! If everyone of the 200,000 marchers called or wrote their lawmakers NEXT WEEK we will continue to witness the change we seek.

Please call!!

http://www.senate.gov/general/...


Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles, and see that the world is moving."
-Elizabeth Cady Stanton


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Watch what we wish for
While it is about time that our rights of life, liberty and property are finally recognized, remember that this bill is attached to funding the DoD, and some of the money will be used to enforce Don't Ask Just Beat Up the Queers, Kick them Out & Replace them with Felons and Heterosupremacist Tyrannical theocRATS.  I just hope that our celebration for the civilians does not put the brave gay and lesbian Americans in the armed service in harm's way.  

It will protect those soldiers, as well
If those of us in the DOD are violently attacked in a hate crime by an active duty servicemember, if the Defense Department refuses to investigate, we can ask the DOJ to investigate and prosecute. If a group of straight soldiers commit an anti-gay or anti-trans violent hate crime, they may be tried in federal court depending on where the crime was committed (different localities have different jurisdictional practices concerning trying troops for committing crimes against civilians). This law can be used to try them in federal court and bring hate crimes sentencing into the equation.

This law has ramifications for the military; don't think it doesn't.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


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I was thinking Hatch abstained, I thought over Utah = Hate State
But one of Matthew Shepard's killers was a Mormon, maybe he feels some guilt, or remorse.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Guilt? Remorse? From a straight white mormon senator?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. And my cat was really doing my taxes while I was at work today.

Yeah, Russel Henderson is a mormon. I hope he gets the news in prison and cries himself to sleep.

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi


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Remorse or guilt seemed unlikely to me too....BUT
Consider the HIDEOUS publicity of a Mormon Senator voting against the MATTHEW SHEPARD hate crime bill when a Mormon tortured and murdered Matt.

that explanation sounds more likely.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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I appreciate the 5 republicans who voted aye on the Hate Crime Bill
I doubt Log Cabin Republicans are very proud of their Party tonight.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


I honestly can't understand
how any LGBT person can support the GOP right now, whatever their general political views.

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beats the hell out of me too
I never met a Log Cabin Reublican when I lived in MN, but they'd have a two man booth at Pride. But here in Louisiana, the few times we have gone to social functions, there are several Log Cabinettes you meet. Most are conservative if they have wealth,or strongly Catholic and a few are extremely Anti-CHOICE.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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For the life of me
I can't see why anyone would be anti-choice.

Seems downright UnAmerican to me...

http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...


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