Gawker: 'Anderson Cooper Is a Giant Homosexual and Everyone Knows It'

Gawker's been speaking the truth

about Anderson for years now. They ran pics of his hot latino boyfriend and we all drooled.

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:12:58 PM CDT

I should say..

on the question, I guess every case is different. Gawker started as a site that only served the NY media market, magazines, news, tv, so speaking about him being gay, well, it's the worst kept secret in the biz. And of course, Gawker shows no reverence to any person or subject.

Gawker's mission has expanded with it's popularity.

I don't have strong feelings about Anderson. Watching "Outrage" documentary is something I recommend to anyone who is interested in this subject. It really demonstrated how the media's compliance to report breathlessly about every move straight people make, but ignore gay people's personal lives is kind of infuriatingly hypocritical and part of the attitude that "it's so shameful, we dare  not talk about it!" that keeps us down.

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:19:43 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Press Responsibility, not Cooper's

At this point, is there anyone left who thinks the Anderson Cooper is straight?

Um, my boss, a straight woman, until I let the cat out of the bag a few weeks ago. That's the thing when everyone knows someone's gay - most straight people don't, especially older folks, because they simply don't consider the possibility. Hell, there were people who thought Rosie was just a single mother until she came out, and let's just say she wasn't really hiding it.

That being said, it is not Cooper's responsibility to come out, but it is the responsibility of the press to cover his love life like they would Matt Lauer's or Brian Williams (were either of them single). This item, quite frankly, is exactly what I think the media should be dong - reporting on gays and straights equally. They can't know Cooper is sleeping with this guy, but they sure as hell should report he is with him on vacation, as if they were a couple, just like the press did with Lindsay Lohan and her ex-girlfriend.  

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by: CPT_Doom @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:14:03 PM CDT

Please, people were surprised when Rosie

came out (seriously, I knew people). People can be insanely blind.

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:20:43 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Giant? How tall is he?

I know...

I know...

But someone had to go there :)

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:24:41 PM CDT

I was going to provide correction

Anderson is not tall, maybe 5'8"?

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:00:16 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Well, no surprise

But seriously, private life is private. I wouldn't mind it if Maddow and Cooper made themselves more outspoken concerning some things, but if they don't want to, that's definitely fine. You have to respect their private lives and personal decisions.

"Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion, you must set yourself on fire!"

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by: Reiuji @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:28:07 PM CDT

I'm not proud of Anderson, playing it too cute

He does NOTHING privately, even professionaly off screen to maintain a closet, but won't just MAN UP and admit he's queer.
I don't agree with outing someone not actively hurting the community, outing is a LAST STEP,an ugly step to take when all else fails, against a real enemy.
To me outing Anderson is like outing Lily Tomlin or bea Arthur...they hurt no one, and if they did or didn't admit publicly who they loved, it didn't effect me an iota.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:28:38 PM CDT

I have a feeling...

...Anderson is of the mindset that a person's sexual orientation should be irrelevant in 2009. He is living his 'private' life as an openly gay man. (That goes for Zachary Quinto too.) The photo of Anderson and his boyfriend in their matching shirts is adorable. He also went on vacation with him, and rented a room with one bed. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

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by: obtusegoose @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:44:02 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I also don't believe Anderson would admit on air if he was asked pointe blank

He would skirt it saying it doesn't matter.

But the bigger question would an OUT anderson in any way improve your life?
for me the answer is no, it's his shame and hypocricy to bear, not mine.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:54:43 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Let's say that an OUT Anderson improves your life

That means that you have the right to insist that he come out?

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by: rfloh @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 01:54:52 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

insistin' ain't gettin'

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 11:31:48 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

Favorite quote from a celebrity

I live my life as an open book. That doesn't mean I'm going to read it to you.

David Hyde Pierce's response to a reporter who asked him about his orientation.

Second favorite:

I'm in my forties, unmarried, in musical theater - you do the math!

Nathan Lane, to a reporter asking the same question.

Cause any fool knows, a dog needs a home; a shelter from pigs on the wing

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by: QueerInSoCal @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:23:27 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Speaking of Bea Arthur

did ya'll catch wind of this?

She left $300,000 to the Ali Forney Center for GLBT homeless youths in New York City. The housing facility will be named for her (hopefully NOT "Shady Pines!").

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_...

Yay!

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:02:36 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

A lovely lady

who made the world a better place.

Click HERE and sign up: Campaign For Military Partners

Click here for DADT photobook

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by: Louise @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:17:35 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Indeed, in both life and death.

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:19:22 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

yeah I linked that story

a couple days ago

sweet gesture

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:37:49 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

The Bea Arthur gender jokes

When she was alive, it seemed as though every comedian would do a gender joke about Bea Arthur. I even saw Tommy Lee say something about her on a Comedy Central roast and they cut immediately to her hurt and bewildered face. I found it extremely distasteful, sad and ugly, given that she did nothing but bring joy into this world. And knowing that one of her final acts was to leave money for gay homeless youth only reinforces my respect for her.

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by: Donica @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 23:31:56 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

There is no outing.

There's nothing wrong with telling the truth.  There's nothing wrong with being gay.  There's nothing wrong with telling the truth about being gay.

What was called "outing" last century is just telling the truth about being gay.  And, since there's nothing wrong with being gay, there's nothing wrong with telling the truth about it.  It's not a punishment, for heaven's sake, to say somebody is gay.

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by: diablorobotico @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:32:35 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I'm with Clarknt67 on this one

I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about Anderson Cooper.

However, covering him as any other celebrity would be covered...fair game. It's not as if Cooper has been trying to hide it or anything, he just doesn't talk about it. And that's his right.

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:32:31 PM CDT

Why should he have to?

Why do we think that everyone in public should tell us every intimate detail of their lives? Is he covering stories about LGBT people in a hurtful way? No? Then let him live his life any way he chooses. And I don't see his lack of confirming rumors a failure of "manning up." But maybe I am in the minority of thinking that people in the public sphere have a right to any sort of private life that they can cut out for themselves, as long as no one is being hurt in a non-consensual manner.

"Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis."

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by: thehawke @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:35:39 PM CDT

This

If Anderson Cooper isn't doing our community any harm by using anti-gay rhetoric, or pushing christianist POVs as valid, I don't give a damn about what he does when he gets naked or with whom. (Usual disclaimers about legal consenting adults apply.)

If he does decide to say anything "publicly," I'm hoping it will something along the lines of, "Yes, I'm gay. And now, Special Investigative Units takes you into the hidden world of Hamid Karzai's CIA informant-drug kingpin brother."

God save ornery old queens! - kevinchi

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by: Keori @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:21:36 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

It would be good for his ratings

and his emotional health. He seems uncomfortable talking about LGTB issues on his show. He almost goes to the extreme of trying to appear neutral. All he manages to accomplish is to appear disingenuous. He'd be better and have better ratings being his authentic self. We can't preach to the masses that being LGTB is a nonissue and then take issue with this public disclosure. It would probably be a relief for him.

Come, come, my conservative friend, wipe the dew off your spectacles, and see that the world is moving."
-Elizabeth Cady Stanton

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by: T2inDC @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:35:57 PM CDT

I agree... I think it is more and more uncomfortable for him...

But, isn't it for everyone with a 'secret,' no matter what that secret is. 

Hopefully, like quitting tobacco, there will come a time for him to Come Out, that makes him feel better about himself and the world, not worse. To each his own.

I think being seen socially out is a great start. I hope he can even use his coming out as an effective tool in the fight for Equality someday. But it is all his life-timing, not ours. 

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:08:25 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I feel like Rachel Maddow has on occaision

avoided gay stories because she doesn't want to be known as "the gay pundit." Mind you, she does her share, but Keith does more. I've on more than few occaisions read about something here or another blog and though, "Oh surely RM will do this story tonight." And she doesn't.

But then she loves to talk about Afghanistan (a lot!) so I guess those minutes have to come from somewhere. :-)

I'm not criticizing her though, just relaying my observations.

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:38:01 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I would say that it's kind've unfair.

Rachel Maddow would be criticized no matter what she did.

I choose to mostly cover trans people and issues. I try not to speak for community; I try to write with a personal perspective because we try to treat Pam's House Blend as a virtual LGBT coffee house, I don't attempt to write as an objective reporter very often. And, I'm pretty open about my life, and I frequently spell out the perspective from which I'm coming.

Even though I'm very open about my life and perspective, I get criticized for having a voice that's not focused on the perspective of post operative status of some transsexuals, and of having too much of a perspective of transgender community, and having a "blood lust" for self-promotion. I've also been criticized for not being enough of a feminist, too much of a feminist, being a deluded man, for being tone-deaf when using trans-feminist related terminology, and accused of cultural appropriation.

In other words, no matter how I live my life, no matter what perspective I cover news and make commentary, some are going to criticize me. That's just the way it goes -- public figures (and semi-public figures like me) get criticized.

So, I look at the kind of life balancing that Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow have to do in reporting the news, and prefer to give them as much slack as possible. They're living their lives in a way that benefits many -- and offends many who wish they were more open about their personal lives, or chose to cover more stories about LGBT community. No matter what they do, someone will criticize them for not living more open lives, and for which LGBT stories they choose to and choose not to cover when covering the news -- and when they cover LGBT news stories, people, and issues, a good number complain about the way they cover these LGBT stories, people, and issues.

That's just the way it goes. Criticism comes with the territory.

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~~Autumn~~

As if there were safety in stupidity alone.
--Henry David Thoreau

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by: Autumn Sandeen @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 08:04:12 AM CDT

[ Parent ]

I hope you meant the situation

was unfair, not my characterizing. Because I agree, Rachel will be criticized no matter what she does. And I don't think she has crossed over into a land of pretending gays are not a part of the process, or I would be critical.

I do notice she does fewer GBLT stories than Keith, which I find kind of funny. I'd like to see her do more, but I'll grant, she probably couldn't really actually do enough to satisfy my appetite! LOL

But we don't "own" her and she doesn't owe it to us to be the voice of politically active gays.

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by: Clarknt67 @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 13:33:55 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

The Reason AC Is on CNN

Anderson Cooper's "mummy," uber-wealthy Upper Eastside heiress and socialite Gloria Vanderbilt, is a major shareholder in Time Warner, the parent company of CNN.

I also happen to know for a fact if you want to interview Anderson Cooper and you are granted access to him (something increasingly rare these days), you must agree to what amounts to contractual pre-conditions which include no personal questions about his romantic life or sexual orientation.

Should you violate this pre-condition, the interview will be terminated. He is protected and shielded by CNN/Time Warner like he's the Hope Diamond.

It's all so stupid on Anderson Cooper and CNN/Time Warner's part. Everyone I know in New York City who is gay and part champagne queer crowd, knows Cooper is gay. He's a regular on Fire Island in the Pines. He's seen at Sunday afternoon tea dance with his boyfriend and the couple are seen out and about biking around Manhattan and lunching in the West Village.

At least CNN/Time Warner hasn't taken to hiring a beard for him to take to the Washington Correspondents Dinner.  

People ask, "How have you guys managed to stay so long?" I tell them, "Don't sweat the small stuff." It's mostly small stuff.

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by: christopher di spirito @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 14:42:58 PM CDT

Actually, after attending Yale

Anderson started his career at ABC working with channel One and ABC News as a correspondent. He's worked steadily in the biz before his allegedly nepotistic landing at Time Warner.

He's far from the worst journalist on that network. Compared to what passes for journalism on CNN, he's Edward R. Murrow. If nepotism brought him there, more socialite children please!

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:10:58 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I Remember AC on ABC

He hosted the ABC reality TV show "The Mole." No wonder he asked Mummy to give him a hoist.

People ask, "How have you guys managed to stay so long?" I tell them, "Don't sweat the small stuff." It's mostly small stuff.

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by: christopher di spirito @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:46:34 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

wow, that is totally false

That is totally false.

Gloria Vanderbilt was swindled out of most of her money years ago by a therapist who conspired together with her financial adviser years ago. She had to move in with Anderson while she liquidated some assets to pay taxes and try to sue the guys to get at least some of the money back. That was before AC was ever on CNN. In addition to Anderson helping her out, she has produced art and books to get back on her feet but she is certainly not a major shareholder in Time Warner.

He was asked by an interviewer for Elle magazine not long ago about his sexual orientation and he answered the question (essentially his answer was that he thought if he declared his sexuality the media would just move in closer and there be more unwanted coverage on his relationships). The interview continued and was published. The idea there is some embargo on personal questions came from blogger Choire Sicha who requested a few minutes interview with Anderson because he wanted to convince Anderson to leave CNN. According to Choire, CNN requested but did not demand Choire avoid personal questions (without specifying what sort of personal questions they meant). Choire didn't agree but was granted the interview anyway.

I believe your friend is wrong about AC being a regular on Fire Island. He is a regular in the Hamptons instead where he owns a house and is a part of that social scene.

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by: ev @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 23:46:40 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Does he need to make a big splash coming out? No.

But he does need to be matter-of-fact honest about his life.  

His continued silence in the glass closet actually harms his reputation as an honest reporter.  To say that he has to stay "openly closeted" in order to not be pigeon-holed to GLBT stories is nonsense... obviously, his superiors at CNN know his orientation -- and are fine with the job he's doing.

The real question is, is the choice of being openly closeted AC's choice or his employers?  CNN has a non-discrimination employment policy covering sexual orientation -- are they living up to it with their on-air talent?

Staying openly "in" basically says that he agrees with the view that:
- Openly GLBT people can't be objective
- You have to "pass" to be successful
- GLBT employees can only work in and around the GLBT community or issues.
- straight-washing our lives and loves is OK

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by: txmichael @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:20:22 PM CDT

Unless he is harming the LGBT community - who cares? What real business is it of anyones?

For all the demands that LGBT people be treated fairly and equally, why in Dogs name does the community insist on defining the entire world by who they sleep with and whether they discuss it publicly.

I've watch AC's reproting for years and don't recall a single instance where he was either radically PRO or CON - he simply reprorts what is happening in the world.

Leave the guy alone.  He ain't hurting you.

Question:  What does an atheist do when they fall to the floor and start "speaking in tongues"?

Answer: Get a CAT scan.

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by: Snooky Ookums @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:44:12 PM CDT

watched....reporting...reports...oops

Question:  What does an atheist do when they fall to the floor and start "speaking in tongues"?

Answer: Get a CAT scan.

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by: Snooky Ookums @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:45:24 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I admit the awkwardness of Anderson asking out queers

Well what do "teh gays" think about such and such, sets my teeth on edge.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:48:48 PM CDT

What?

You have teeth?  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:54:05 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Yeah some foul race baiting Mo Fo is gonna step on my dress

Oh F*CK NO!
Beat it, before I smear your a$$ all over this site.

and to answer, yes I have teeth and I bought the sharpest ones the store carried.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:12:58 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Watch your language

You old goat. Before I report you. Oh, you're a mess.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:16:59 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

And you, dear are acting like

a pure piping hot mess!

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:20:01 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

God all of y'all just cracked me up here.

"Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis."

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by: thehawke @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:25:45 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Uh, I do know who you are

and I have even liked some of your posts on huffington.

That. was unnecessary, D. Leave my friend (albeit only in the blogosphere) alone, please.

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:17:42 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Thank you.

I actually like Petey. He's the first to welcome me here. I gotta soft spot for him. He says mean things to me for the most part. But I'm fond of him. He makes this place more homelike than not.

But the race bait attacks have got to go. I don't ever remember bringing up anyone's race. I'd prefer it remain that way.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:22:05 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

OK

Lets take a walk down your cookie trail of OREO comments towards other Black men

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:33:09 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Let's have it.

Okay Petey,when? When did I slam other black men for being Oreos? And of course you need to have it in writing with my byline.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:36:48 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I got it.....fat lipped,,UNCLE

You attack OTHER Black men who weren't even in your original beef with one Black artist.

ring any bells.....TOOL?

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:39:44 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

What in the world...

Petey, what are you talking about? Darlin' if you have the goods lay them out. And that's it. You don't. Quit slandering people. And quit calling people names. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:42:07 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

FINE

Derrick Mathis
I don't hate on oreos.  Really, I don't.  But LZ is  a bad oreo.  Tool? He doesn't even know how to use the right oreo words.  Now Brian Gumble is a good oreo.  Would NEVER use a word like TOOL.  No way.  Brian Gumble is the smoothest oreo in the world.  Matter of fact, Brian Gumble is considered to be by blacks and whites alike, the Shaft of oreos. My man wrote the book.
Yeah LZ. Give Brian a shout out. Tell him you need some oreo lessons-quick. Cause you're embarrassing yourself.  He'll sort you out, bro.  Brian'll get you together.
    http://unclefatlips.com/top-fe...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:44:36 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

how ya like them teeth?

  http://c2.api.ning.com/files/g...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:50:17 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Want to try for SLANDERING me ya liar?

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:54:06 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Oh Petey

THIS is what you were talking about? This post about LZ? Oh, honey. Oh, you poor thing. Between you and I, it's gonna take a heck of a lot more than that to even raise an eyebrow about someone's opinions on these two bozos.

You know, if you really want to hang something on me I've got some pretty heavy stuff I wrote back in the day. I can send it to you directly. I don't know why you get any gratification for wanting to hang me. It's not like we actually know each other. But...be that as it may.

Let me know. I'll send you my most damning essays. But this fluff? Petey, now really.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:52:38 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

F*CK YOU you just said you didn't call other Black men oreos

in front of everyone HERE

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:55:47 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

So I forgot about it....

What do you want, a cookie? I'm getting old too, you know. Can't remember everything I've said and done. Can you?  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:58:22 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

And what's so bad anyway about...

...calling other black men oreos? I've heard black men call each other far worse...I'm jus' sayin.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:00:24 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Well...

It's pretty bad, having been one of those black men that has been called an oreo or acting white or that other bulshit for most of my 42 years (def. over 35 of those years). What the fuck does it mean to be "properly black"?

Educate me, please.

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:21:27 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Properly black

Gee Kevin, I have no idea what properly black means, either. I've never heard the term. Oh, I myself have been accuse of many things. Been called oreos and all that. It comes along with the territory of having a critical voice and not always chiming in the black status quo. Just do your thing is all I can tell you. That's what Oprah does. She gets criticized all the time.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:32:43 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

True dat!

I just have a bad history with that term...that's all.

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:39:10 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

ANOTHER LIE

UncleFatLips is your BRAND NEW SITE, it links from your previous site STILL

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:03:53 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

even Alan Keyes is LAUGHING AT YOU

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:02:03 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Well that's nice.

Let's all laugh together:)  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:04:39 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

My Diary Post

Oh, Petey I forgot to tell you. I posted my first diary entry today! I'm so excited. I was nervous but I did it anyway. You should read it and tell me what you think. I'll take the pot shots. It's all good. I titled it One Of Those Days When Gay People And Black People Make Me Sick.  

I hope you like it.  

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:07:53 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Can't you READ?

I'm DONE playing with this rat, someone throw it out  

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:17:37 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

FLUSH

   http://img.villagephotos.com/p...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 19:11:27 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

I'm DONE playing with this rat, someone throw it out

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:06:22 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

wrong, wrong, wrong

All of you in this thread stop it now.

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 20:33:58 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Oh

I thought they were all friends pulling each others' legs. Shows what I know.

"Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis."

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by: thehawke @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:28:14 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

appreciate being called your friend, even virtual friend, and it's mutual

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:49:17 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Oh that's so sweet.

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by: renwl @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 17:54:35 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

Well, D (I know that's quite informal) I actually do like you

especially the night we took on the black homobigot squad of huffpost...huffpost gets to be a bit too much double duty for my tastes though (the homobigots and the gays who are racist (have to make a distinction between gays who are racist and gay racists)

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 18:25:07 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

distinction?

there is one?

"Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis."

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by: thehawke @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:29:03 PM CDT

[ Parent ]

To me there is a difference

between gays who are just good old fashioned racists and racism as it is in the context of gay culture...I would include the racist pushback post Prop 8 as an example of "gay racism"

Just as there are some black people who happen to be homobigots but that doesn't make them "black homobigots"; they are homobigots that happen to be black.

And then there are your folks who introduce race (homosexuality is a white thing, etc.) into the discussion like, say, Miss Bishop Jackson or Frances Welsing.

To me, those are black homophobes.  

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:40:53 PM CDT

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Not speaking for kev

but I'd say gays who are racist, is like everyone else, taught and instilled with racism.
where as a gay racist embraces their racism and acts on their racism.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:41:21 PM CDT

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now how this got into a discussion

of one of the cutest couples that I have ever seen is beyond me...

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:44:40 PM CDT

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Anderson has good taste

A previous boyfriend, was one of the hottest Latino men I ever saw.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:50:26 PM CDT

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Yeah but he did date JT?

from The Real World, who was a real asshole on the show...

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:52:30 PM CDT

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Many years ago when they'd send Anderson to cover hurricaines

There was a bear guy who was on his crew, which I often wondered about, sometimes this guy would grab Anderson if he was being tossed by the winds.

It doesn't seem like his current taste in men, so it might just be in my mind....which is JUST AS GOOD....LOL!

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:57:03 PM CDT

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I think it is a shame he is not more open

They make a rather cute couple. I agree with posters upthread, though: because he is not denying it and otherwise seems to be pretty open, I see no reason why his personal life should be treated any different than the personal life of any other celebrity.

Now, if the question is whether or not the personal lives of celebrities should be the subject of intense 24/7 media speculation....

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même merde.

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by: TechBear @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:53:31 PM CDT

Celebrities

How much do we actually hear about tier 2 news people's personal lives when they behave themselves anyway? If they're not hit with sexual harassment suits  or going into rehab, or not Katie Couric, I can't say I ever hear much about who so and so is dating or whatever.

Anderson gets more speculation because 1. we know he's gay 2. He's so darn cute.

I assume Tom Brokaw has a wife and kids but I can't remember ever reading about them or seeing a picture.

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by: Clarknt67 @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:04:24 PM CDT

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Sorry, you losers

Why is it that only you "losers" are so concerned with someone's sexual orientation.  You all are just trying to bring someone down to your level.  Do something with your life and then you can go GAY-GAY-GAY!!!    Otherwise, just slither back into your worthless life and deal with that.

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by: bigjeff @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 15:54:49 PM CDT

Actually my question would be different

and similar to Tech Bear's

...If we can submit, say, Will Smith's or Brittany Spears' or Madonna's or Prince William's life to incredible levels of scrutiny, then why not Anderson Cooper's?

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by: kevinchi @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:05:02 PM CDT

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The thing is though,

Why do people actually want to read or hear anything about any of those people?  Being in movies, releasing a bunch of crappy songs and prancing around naked, or being born to the "right" parents really don't make them at all interesting.  What I'm wondering is why so many people care about what is essentially background noise and simply garbage to fill a "news" hour with.  It has gotten so bad lately that I can't watch the evening news since I usually have to turn it off within the first 15 minutes, at the first sound of "Linds-" or "Britt_" (I got quick enough to not hear any more of those names).  
As for "big"jeff, is he calling himself a loser for caring what the sexual orientations of the posters around here are?  It seems to have gotten him into quite a lather...

My America includes LGBT families.

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by: Mena @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:14:08 PM CDT

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I actually do agree with you

about the fascination with celebrity status in popular culture (and this, in part, accounts for the cult of personality that seems to surround the President). Then again, well...things have always been that way, really...

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 09:35:59 AM CDT

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he's a news guy not a pop star

We can do it, but it wouldn't be about equality. The people you mentioned are not news people. I think it's appropriate for Anderson and all the other glass closeted personalities on the news to receive as much coverage as comparable straight people get in their industry. Comparable straight people in news really don't get much relationship coverage, though, especially if they try to maintain their privacy.

Right now I would say AC actually gets more personal coverage then he would if he were straight. Somehow all the other glass closet men and women in news get virtually no attention even from the gay media, though, so that is unequal.

Moving topics, he and the new guy are a cute couple.

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by: ev @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 23:59:09 PM CDT

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uh, Anderson Cooper is a Vanderbilt

that makes it news!

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by: kevinchi @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 09:26:13 AM CDT

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Well,

there are a couple of issues, here, whether we can / should, and whether anyone is going to care.

My personal view is that we cannot. Not to Cooper, nor to anyone else.

But that is a view that most people apparently don't share.

Cooper doesn't get paparazzi swarming all over him because the paparazzi aren't going to get paid for swarming all over him.

It is like ev said, most people simply don't care about the private lives of newscasters.

If Prince William had boyfriend, was gay, that would be big news, at least for those who follow celebs. Anderson Cooper being gay? Not so much.

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by: rfloh @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 02:46:43 AM CDT

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There is no closet now.

It's been disappearing ever since Ellen came out -- at least -- but, in the Age of the Internet, it is now completely gone.

The closet was where society put gay people back in the dark ages, pre-mass media, pre-organized community, pre-visibility.  Gay didn't exist and the way it didn't exist was by society forcing gay people to deny their own existence.  The closet was what people broke out of in the '60s and '70s and '80s.  You could choose to stay in the closet or you could choose to come out of it, but you didn't get to choose if it existed.  Society built that closet for you.

In 2009, there is no closet.  Gay exists.  Gay is a reality.  More importantly, gay is a possiblity -- meaning it is a possibilty that someone may or may not be gay.  It's no longer unthinkable, it's just another option.

If someone lives their lives as if they're gay -- by always being seen with a same-sex partner, frequenting gay venues, or by cruising London parks in the middle of the night, for instance -- it is now likely that the person in question is gay.  Vacationing in opulent one-bed hotel rooms in other countries with a same-sex partner moves that possiblity all the way up to a certainty.  Because there is no closet for these people to hide in.  The world recognizes that they could be -- and probably or certainly are -- gay.

Even if you're not a public figure, you can't stop people from discussing the obvious.  Even if you're trying really hard to hide it, people can still consider it about you and even still believe it of you.  Some people will always be so bigoted or oblivious as to deny or miss what's right in front of them, but even they know that gay is real for, at least, other people.  Because there is no closet.

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by: diablorobotico @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:28:30 PM CDT

Anderson's private life is

up to him to disclose or not disclose.  However, for the rest of us at some point it becomes almost painful to watch him keep trying to play it cute and not come out.  He might generate less gossip in the long run if he would just bite the bullet and come out and be over with it.  Neal Patrick Harris seems to have suffered no ill effects from coming out.

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by: Michael-in-Norfolk @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 16:59:18 PM CDT

He's as out as I am ...

Which is to say, I bet all his friends know.  I bet he's out to his family, and his co-workers, and anyone in his life who is meaningful to him.

He has the OPPORTUNITY to be more out than me, because he has his own TV show and I don't.  If I had my own TV show and THEN came out of the closet to the entire nation and anyone else in the world who might care, then I'd be in a position to judge Anderson Cooper.  But I don't and I haven't, so I won't.

"There are two kinds of people in this world -- the kind who separate the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't."  -- Gloria Steinem

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by: red7eric @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 20:45:22 PM CDT

Also ...

A commenter over at Gawker makes a good point:

As a reporter, Anderson travels not infrequently to countries where being gay is a crime punishable by death. Ever consider that as a reason he doesn't make a public declaration?

Makes some sense, actually.

"There are two kinds of people in this world -- the kind who separate the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't."  -- Gloria Steinem

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by: red7eric @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 20:49:05 PM CDT

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The Gawker quote isn't entirely accurate.

Technically there aren't any countries where being gay is illegal; what there are is countries where gay sex is illegal. In other words, gay people are safe from prosecution as long as they are celibate while within the country.

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by: tavdy79 @ Fri Oct 30, 2009 at 09:22:28 AM CDT

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I DEMAND

That at the top of every news hour, across the world, whether it be local or national, that every anchor, reporter, or other journalist immediately declare their sexual orientation!

And let's throw in gender identity to boot.

"Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis."

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by: thehawke @ Thu Oct 29, 2009 at 21:33:27 PM CDT