Abortion Coverage? No. Gender Transition Coverage? No. Religion Coverage? Yes????

pay

Whether it's superstition or wonder working power, you shouldn't need to pay for prayer.  And indeed Constitutionally it must not be considered in the health care proposals.

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by: Passionforprog @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 12:37:18 PM CST

Home remedy

Why pay for a "professional" service when the home remedy version works just as well?

If prayer is all that effective in healing, then why do we need health insurance at all?

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by: Stephanie @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 13:07:28 PM CST

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I can see..

pray away the gay coverage. They would like that wouldn't they? Well, I say NO WAY!

We are all a genetic experiment.

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by: TechChic @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 13:10:52 PM CST

Yikes!

I'm ashamed to say I wasn't even thinking of that noxious permutation of this.

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 14:09:05 PM CST

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stupid idea more for giggles than actual usage...

There's probably no point in trying this, because Republicons don't really understand the concept of "principles" (a rule only matters to them if it's in their favor), but I had to toss this noodle in anyway:

Since they're insisting that "religious freedom" means "freedom to impose religious ideas via the legal system", then for every brain-dead cause their religions espouse, we need to start a religion espousing something more reasonable:

The Holy Church of Christ, Abortionist holds that a woman's right to abortions is not only sacred, but enshrined in the Constitution -- because, of course, the Founders intended the US to be a Christian nation, and we Abortionists are Christians too! It says so right in the name of our Church. What, are you trying to question my Faith? Liberal censorship!

Not only that, but the Constitution guarantees that all abortions should be paid for by the government -- read that phrase again: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...." -- abortion is our religion, and we demand the right to practice it for FREE! Anything less is unconstitutional, and probably Nazi socialism too.

In Thy Image Ministries seeks to restore humanity from its sadly fallen state of worshipping that which is different, and return to the only true worship, the worship God intended, of the One who is in our image which is in turn in His image, the perfect partner who is of the same gender as our self.

Hath not the Lord stated quite clearly, in Leviticus 18:22, "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."? Clearly it is our sacred duty to Save fallen men from the detestable Abomination of lying with women, so that women may lie with themselves and men may lie with themselves and we may all be saved from the Satan-driven heterosexual menace -- the Beast with two backs!

Yeah, I know, Poe's Law... but still, it would be fun to watch them cringe.

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by: woozle @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 13:53:05 PM CST

Love it

Can I be Pope of one? Wait, would that require me wearing a dress? And hey, Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster worked pretty well, why not our own?

"Any transition serious enough to alter your definition of self will require not just small adjustments in your way of living and thinking but a full-on metamorphosis."

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by: thehawke @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 16:31:48 PM CST

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I hope Hatch et al. get into an accident, and end up with Christian Science EMTs

And, when they arrive at the hospital, find out that the emergency room doctor is a Jehovah's Witness who refuses to authorize a blood transfusion. And maybe the operating surgeon holds that if bloodletting was good enough for the Catholic Church for 1300 years, it is just as good today.

And then tell them that they have to pay for all of this. Assuming they survive, of course.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même merde.

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by: TechBear @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 14:11:17 PM CST

Seriously, what isn't covered ?

None of the things I take are going to be covered, none of the supplements.  

I've had great insurance before, and was kept constantly medicated and sick.  

I think the whole health care system is a huge massive scam, and ignoring that we spend near twice what the most expensive country (Switzerland) spends, and they cover everybody, should cause everyone great concern.  

The entire system is corrupt and dysfunctional, and I want no part of it.


= equality isn't free =

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by: NVTodd @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 14:26:25 PM CST

Why don't we just all resign ourselves

to the fact that we live in a de facto theocracy?  With our wonderful progressive (nudge nudge wink wink) president increasing his predecessor's cash bribes to churches faith-based initiatives and the senate proposing this idiocy, it's all but official.

Religion is and has always been the enemy of progress--and I daresay always will be.  Whether it's health care reform, LGBT rights or any other issue or set of issues, organized religion somehow manages to get in the way.  The constitution couldn't be much clearer, but the Christers keep making end runs around it.  It's only a matter of time before someone in congress proposes giving ministers tax breaks for every time they shove a communion wafer in someone's mouth.

Now cue the religious apologists:  "Not all Christians are like that, wah wah wah!"  No, you're not.  But you all support it.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 17:03:44 PM CST

Is that all it costs?

Leaders of the Church of Christ, Scientist, are pushing a proposal that would help patients pay someone like Lewis for prayer by having insurers reimburse the $20 to $40 cost.

I'm one of the fortunate Americans that currently has health coverage and it costs me $20-$40 out of pocket in co-pays to see my doctor and have a prescription filled.  If someone opts for alternative treatment (prayer) why should their costs be covered 100%?

$20-$40 for a personal pray sounds like a reasonable out of pocket expense to me.  And if they can't afford it where's the church charity?

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by: Guy in SF @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 18:02:09 PM CST

Hello, 2009 anyone?

I just can't believe that this is being brought up seriously in the year 2009. That a) makes us to the laughing stock of (at least) the western world and b) reveals a medieval mindset.  More than pathetic.  

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by: rupi3000 @ Mon Nov 23, 2009 at 22:57:04 PM CST

Kerry supported the anti-gay amendment

to the Mass constitution AFTER the court ruled that gays had the right to marry.
He said he supported "civil unions" but wanted to amend Mass. constitution to take away the right to marry because he thought that marriage was "religious".

That's when he lost me forever.

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by: tiponeill @ Tue Nov 24, 2009 at 09:05:15 AM CST

Unlike Patrick Kennedy,

Kerry is clearly promoting his church's policies at the expense of the American constitution.

Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
-Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

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by: QScribe @ Tue Nov 24, 2009 at 11:03:57 AM CST

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