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Crystal Dixon fired

by: The Author

Fri May 09, 2008 at 19:11:05 PM EDT


(Great post.
ee - promoted by The Educated Eclectic
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(cross posted from Holy Bullies and Headless Monsters)

Reports are slowly coming out that the University of Toledo fired Crystal Dixon.

Dixon had written a column this week calling homosexuality a choice and saying that she takes umbrage with the comparison of being black and being gay. She also said she did not consider gay rights as civil rights.

It was not a simple case of free speech. Dixon was an associate vice president of Human Resources at the university.

The Author :: Crystal Dixon fired
She was responsible for insuring equity and diversity at the university. Because of such, there was some concern with whether or not she could do her job adequately.

Also, as a staff member at the University, she was not entitled to the same academic freedoms that professors are.

Let me say a couple of things that will probably be lost in the flurry to exploit this situation.

As a gay black man, I was offended by yet again a heterosexual African-American speaking against their lgbt brothers and sisters. I was also offended by her very bad use of statistics and her relying on bad sources such as PFOX.

I also feel that the University had an obligation to investigate whether or not Dixon could do her job fairly in light of her comments.

And as of right now, I agree with the decision to let her go.

But I hate it when this sort of thing happens.

I wish there was some sort of compromise.

But to those who will spin this case as one of "an attack on free speech," how would you feel if her comments had been against Christians, or Muslims, or any other groups; people whose interests she was hired to look after while they are students at the university.

Ms. Dixon has a right to free speech, but that doesn't trump her responsibility to the students, whether or not they are gay. Their well-being takes precedent over everything.

She is not the victim here.

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But...
"She is not the victim here."

But, within a week she will be the christianist right's new martyr-cum-tool.

Kat

>^..^<


Free Speech Without Consequences

Yep, the wingnuts certainly will frame this as a free speech case.  They love to yell "free speech" in cases like this ... as though the freedom of speedom meant speech without consequences for the things one says.

In Ms. Dixon's case, her job was responsibility for ensuring the protection of the civil rights of glbt folks on campus.  She was clear; she did not believe the glbt folks had any civil rights worthy of protection.  How could she accept pay for protecting those rights she did not believe they had?  As a Christian, I would have thought she would have quit her job long ago rather than work under a lie.  Oh well.

If it is true she was terminated, it was a fair decision.

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


Wouldn't this be the...
   same kind of situation the Quaker lady would have had, if she would have sworn to defend the constitution of California?
How could she accept pay for protecting those rights she did not believe they had?

And what if that Constitution stated that marriage was between one man and one woman, would you have sworn to defend it and not support a referendum to change that constitution, just to get a job and if you did, wouldn't that be not defending that constitution that you swore to do, in effect making one elgible for termination? And if one didn't believe in it, shouldn't they refuse to swear to defend that Constitution as so worded, as you state that Ms. Dixon should have done in her honesty? And why should the Quaker lady lie in her case just get a job as you so previously stated she should have done?  

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


[ Parent ]
No...big difference between the two.
She actually did sign the loyalty oath, but had added a statement to it which the university did not accept. Nor did the loyalty oath have anything to do with the position she was hired for (it's a hold over from the days of McCarthyism).

Dixon was responsible for ensuring that ALL students were treated equally under university policies. That is her job description and she does not have the right to modify those policies based on her personal religious views. She has the Right to her personal opinions. However, her mistake was expressing those views in response to an editorial that was discussing the contradictions in policy (with regards to same-sex partners) at the U of Toledo. Because of that, her ability to perform her job was thrown into question. If she had responded to an editorial not related to U of Toledo policies, chances are she would still have her job (although an investigation would still have been warranted because of her job responsibilities).


[ Parent ]
sorry, you are incorrect
while there have been people who have been allowed to sign the oath with a signing statement, the big news story earlier this week was of a woman who refused to sign because she was not allwed to attach a signing statement.  i think you're confusing different peoples experiences with the ca oath problem.

DECLINE 2 SIGN REFERENDUM 71!

[ Parent ]
I don't believe so...
Or at least the gal I'm referring to signed the loyalty oath with an added signing statement, but the university refused to accept it because university policy did not allow signing statements. I remember thinking that I would have refused to sign and that if my position hinged on signing the unaltered oath, I would have told them to stick it where the sun don't shine and walked away.

I remember it because it reminded me of when Oklahoma State tried to make us sign (unaltered) loyalty statements a couple of years back. I refused because: 1) there were questions as to whether it was even legal (administration tried to force it on everyone without approval from the staff and faculty senate); 2) university employment policy already includes statements specifically regarding intellectual property; and 3) the oath, as written, could have been used to restict intellectual, academic, and personal freedoms (i.e. I could have been fired for participating in a protest against the OK marriage amendment even though it has nothing to do with my job description).


[ Parent ]
PhyllisMs!!

I was mucking about this afternoon and saw the old Quaker and the California Constitution post.  I saw where you posted some very interesting arguments to me and I never responded ... because I never read them until today.  I wasn't just ignoring you ... I did not read them.  I have been a bit depressed recently in grieving and been hit and miss here.  Very sorry not to respond to your excellent points.  I  really apologize.  I treasure your view points.

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...

[ Parent ]
Bless you, I wanted...

   someone to pick this up because I think it is very important, this "defending the constitution" of so and so state, like we are in the military or somethin and these requirements, in my view point, are unconstitutional. Like I have to swear or affirm that I will defend the "one man one woman" marriage adendum. That's not religious freedom to me, because it is my religious and spiritual belief that "marriage" is any union between two people who love each other. That's what it's all about, love isn't it? Not sex, which is the reason the straights and bigots started that, and it's "bible based on the Adam and Eve concept. It's ridiculous. 

   But thank you, I did think you were ignoring me. I'm sorry, I understand, I lost a person last month that was in my life over a 30 year stretch, my double life, male lover. I nursed him for a month before he passed on. My condolences, honey. I was wrong to dog you at such a time. How insensitive of me. My apologies.  



I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


[ Parent ]
My condolences, PhyllisMs


[ Parent ]
Thank you both...
   very much. I never lived with him but he was always my lover, at his country bungalow 20 minutes from my house, my one and only, except for that woman I married for a while. lol. He said he understood, that she was just a decoration and turned out she was. I wish I could have married him but I'll be with him when I leave here. I met his mother when we had first met because he was taking care of her and lived in the front bedroom. After staying there often he told her about me and she was very nice to me always. What a wonderful person, to graciously accept her son's male lover(I lived as male at that time). He was 52 and I was 27. I hope she is with him to receive me when I arrive. (smiles) She was the only person of the family that I had met until the funeral. Then I met the people in the pictures I had always seen at his home. Two first cousins were openly gay, but I left the funeral early anyway. I wish he were here now, these sheets are not the same without him. But I enjoyed every second with him and every chore I had to do while caring for him those last weeks.

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


[ Parent ]
GPC Report
Here's the report ( http://www.gaypeopleschronicle... ) in the Gay People's Chronicle:

An anti-gay opinion piece in the Toledo Free Press resulted in the suspension of its author, a University of Toledo associate vice president.

...

The university put Dixon on paid leave after her screed appeared.

"President Lloyd Jacobs has done the right things," said Michelle Stecker, interim executive director of Equality Toledo and a UT School of Law alumnus.

So, I'm curious.  Was she subsequently fired?  Or was the suspension what is being discussed here?

Either way, I'm glad that action has been taken.

Kat

>^..^<


She was fired
I had the link in on my blog. it didn't take here. but here it is: http://www.wtol.com/Global/sto...


That particular link doesn't seem to confirm that she was fired
"A University of Toledo official has told News 11 that Crystal Dixon is no longer an employee at the University of Toledo.

"We have no further information about the cause of the change in employment status."


[ Parent ]
Ms Dixon and The Quaker

Phyllis, there are real differences.  I've said my piece on Ms Dixon.  The Quaker in California had theoption to affirm instead of swearing to defend the Constitutions.  There are many ways to "defend."  NO ONE asked her or assumed she would defend the constitutions violently.  No one!  Constitutions are defended in the classroom, in the courts, in the coffee shops, onthe Internet, in many, many ways every day.  Most of them non-violently.  She ought to have affirmed and gotten the job in Calironia.  Ms. Dixon ought to have been fired.

Now, if the Constitution included discrimination, that is a horse of a different color perhaps.  Time will tell.

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


Just to clarify
Quakers (and some other religious groups) cannot take an oath on religious principle.  They can affirm, but not swear an oath.

An entirely different rationale.


[ Parent ]
As an analogy
Consider an administrator who publicly states a strong belief that the world will end in at most a few years. Normally, that's free speech but there's a legitimate problem if he happens to be in charge of managing people's pension funds; it would at least on the surface appear that he'd have to violate his own beliefs in order to invest the money responsibly. The situation would definitely require a thorough investigation to determine whether his beliefs would prohibit him from doing his job.

She should consider sending her resume...
...to Washington University.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

speech, vs. duties in educational setting
 How about this?
Free speech is one thing, it can be offered freely and might not result in any abject consequences, but her speech WAS under color of a certain type of job and duty.
But what if she ALSO had the option of sensitivity training and education to keep her job?

 She's obviously ignorant and is stupid on the subject of LGBT folks. If she felt her job was important enough to her, then the school could give her EVERY opportunity (as if she didn't already on her own time), to have the LGBT give her a refresher course on their lives and needs.

 People like Dixon don't actually KNOW anyone gay or necessarily care about them.
The school could cover itself from litigation if they gave her this opportunity. And she obviously SHOULD take it.

 But if she feels she knows all she needs to, in her opinion, about gay folks, then that job isn't right for her and she should know that too.


OT: Thanks, Regan!
We LOVE Torchwood, are working our way through the first season with great enjoyment.  What fascinating characters, what great scripts, and what a cool bisexual vibe.  A smart, smart show that reminds me a bit of MI5 in the way it explores the impact of the work they do and lives they lead.  The only episode we didn't like was Countrycide, which seemed too Grand Guignol.

Thanks for mentioning the show, which I'd heard of, seen ads for, but never guessed was so sophisticated, sexy, and fun.

Lev Raphael, author of My Germany, now on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...


[ Parent ]
Ms. Dixon on Television

I just watched Ms. Dixon on local television.  Very interesting.  She most certainly does NOT need education on lgbt issues.

Ms. Dixon felt a "Divine Mandate" to write the column she wrote in the Toledo Free Press.  She says she wrote it as a private citizen, in no way as a representative of the university.  That certainly appears to be true.

She has worked in Human Resources for 23 years.  She has hired both straight and gay people.  The university could find no instance of her being prejudiced against glbt people on the job!  That is significant.

She has a good legal team and is suing on three bases:  Freedom of speech, religious prejudice, and racial prejudice!  Wish I could get a hold of that law suit ... should be fascinating reading.

She is receiving "hold on and stand tall" emails from all over the USA and Iceland.  Emails in the 1,000's.  This woman has no intention of backing down, learning about lgbt people, or changing her mind.  She has God on her side.

What the case will rest on is the appearance of impropriety and prejudice in the University and the appearance that she will not uphold the University's values.  It certainly appears that she will not uphold the University's values ... she wrote so.  We'll see what the Court will say.



The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


at will employese
i wonder if, like most of the rest of us, she was an at will employee.  if so, she hasn't a leg to stand on.

DECLINE 2 SIGN REFERENDUM 71!

[ Parent ]
Excellent Point, Lurleen

Especially as management, I would bet a month's disability check that she is an "at will" employee.  Discrimination is illegal, certainly.  But "fredom of speech" applies only to the government.  Only the government cannot establish a church.  As to racial discrimination in this case ... well, that is a most interesting argument.  But it will be almost impossible to get past the "at will" employment contract.

Lurleen, you ususally get to the pith of the problem.  One smart woman!!!!

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


[ Parent ]
I have to disagree
I think she needs TREMENDOUS education regarding lgbt issues, especially dealing with lgbts of color.

But I also think that the university may bring up another issue that no one is addressing. Was it insubordination for her to speak on university policy (even if she was doing such as a private citizen) without approval?


[ Parent ]
Toledo appears to be a publicly funded institution...
...which may be a factor.

...

Question for the fundies, not legal but ethical:  Why should this woman be protected from discrimination on the basis of her beliefs when her beliefs are a choice?  In fact, why isn't she herself outraged by her own (impending) lawsuit, which elevates a behavioral choice to the status of a civil right, as if it were something immutable like skin color?  Serious question.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto


[ Parent ]
Of course
Of course they fired her! Since she is African-American, take out the word "gay" and replace it with the word "white" and certainly she would have been fired and nobody would have batted an eyelash for the same reason Randi Rhodes was suspended. She wasn't speaking in a vacuum, she was representing the university. It's not free speech if I go to work and start badmouthing sick people and it would reflect horribly on my employer. The constitution says that you can't be arrested and tried for speaking, it doesn't protect you from your employer.

University correct in this instance
Dagon:  "I just watched Ms. Dixon on local television.  Very interesting.  She most certainly does NOT need education on lgbt issues.

Ms. Dixon felt a "Divine Mandate" to write the column she wrote in the Toledo Free Press.  She says she wrote it as a private citizen, in no way as a representative of the university.  That certainly appears to be true."

Despite Ms Dixon's claim on TV, her column speaks for itself - and does appear to be speaking on behalf of the University.  See excerpts below.  

Column:
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...

http://lloydletta.blogspot.com...

The Peter is all over this one.  That's not surprising.

From her column - emphasis mine:

As a Black woman who happens to be an alumnus of the University of Toledo's Graduate School, an employee and business owner, I take great umbrage at the notion that those choosing the homosexual lifestyle are "civil rights victims." Here's why. I cannot wake up tomorrow and not be a Black woman. I am genetically and biologically a Black woman and very pleased to be so as my Creator intended.

****snipped references to Exgays, and bogus PFOX economic statistics******

The reference to the alleged benefits disparity at the University of Toledo was rather misleading. When the University of Toledo and former Medical University of Ohio merged, both entities had multiple contracts for different benefit plans at substantially different employee cost sharing levels. To suggest that homosexual employees on one campus are being denied benefits avoids the fact that ALL employees across the two campuses regardless of their sexual orientation, have different benefit plans. The university is working diligently to address this issue in a reasonable and cost-efficient manner, for all employees, not just one segment.

My final and most important point. There is a divine order. God created human kind male and female (Genesis 1:27). God created humans with an inalienable right to choose. There are consequences for each of our choices, including those who violate God's divine order. It is base human nature to revolt and become indignant when the world or even God Himself, disagrees with our choice that violates His divine order. Jesus Christ loves the sinner but hates the sin (John 8:1-11.) Daily, Jesus Christ is radically transforming the lives of both straight and gay folks and bringing them into a life of wholeness: spiritually, psychologically, physically and even economically. That is the ultimate right.



Middle paragraph...
...could certainly imply that she's speaking in her capacity as a manager of benefits for the University, given the topic of the column.  That's probably part of the argument that the defense will make.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

[ Parent ]
Particularly if the discrepancies are not widely known,
bringing them to the attention of the public, in the middle of the rectification process, is not wise.

[ Parent ]
This is completely false and...
   in direct conflict with scriptures and is a perfect example of the fundamentalists using the bible when it is convienient for them, only.
God created human kind male and female (Genesis 1:27).
   As it is stated, this is religion pure and simple, and violation of separation of church and state, and the basis for the "marriage is between one man and one woman" constitutional amendments, which in effect admits, bible based concept.  
God created humans with an inalienable right to choose.
False:
Roman 2:1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
God created humans with an inalienable right to choose.
This statement is blaspheme, saying man can choose to sin or not.  No, he did not. We are created human, with faults and weakness, prone to mistakes and not one human could live by the whole law. Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.  Man accordingly, had no choice to sin or not to sin.
There are consequences for each of our choices, including those who violate God's divine order.
This is christian science teachings. They will use anything, any doctrine, any skewing of the scriptures to fight us, these vipers. Romans 7:19 For as by one man's disobedience(Adam) many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. (We had no choice in the matter of sin, ZERO)
It is base human nature to revolt and become indignant when the world or even God Himself, disagrees with our choice that violates His divine order.
There is not a devine order, there are only wrongs that we do to one another as human beings, through selfish desire and wants. Most of the commandments deal with this (This is Paul speaking about himself)Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I. 16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good. 17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.  18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will(this is self, desire for self to have, wanting things for self, having free will) is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. 19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. 20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. 21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
And this last is significant "So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin".
Two separate entities, the spirit and the flesh and the flesh does not always mean sex, as I have pointed out previously, it is also material things, great wealth, worldly things. They make it sound like it is always sex, these lying fundalmentalists who skew scriptures for political adbvantage.

 

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


[ Parent ]
The Other Side of the Story

The Local TV Story (World News Daily website) also had a Toledo University professor interviewed.  He said Dixon's firing was squashing free debate and free thinking and writing at the university.  If one did not agree with the President of the University, then one better just shut up!

I also read the comments of the Freepers.  As expected they harped on the homofacism of the new USA ... how we progressive glbt's stiffle free debate (Dixon and Smith College).  They compare us to Hitler's tactics in the 1930's ... no alternative views allowed ... especially Christian views.

I am also struck by the fact that Ms. Dixon hired homosexuals for the university.  There was NO evidence that her personal views affected her job performance at all.  The President of the University had NO evidence, NONE.  Well, according to Ms. Dixon.

Interesting.  Gives me pause for thought.  Probably a diary entry rather than more here ... I need to think more about it all.

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


Well...
He said Dixon's firing was squashing free debate and free thinking and writing at the university.  If one did not agree with the President of the University, then one better just shut up!

That's what he said. But he also said that this is the first time in 26 years (or whatever) that he was 'afraid'. So if this really is an organized campaign to suppress free speech, then why didn't he see this coming? He is probably a fundie nutjob.

I am also struck by the fact that Ms. Dixon hired homosexuals for the university.

That is what she claimed. Maybe. But someone who thinks like she does can impossibly be objective. Of course, playing the victim wouldn't work if you are the offender, so she has to appear as moderate as she can. And it worked, the ABC-fools cast her as someone who had been fired for 'speaking out'. Would they have said that about someone who supported the Ku Klux Klan? No, but because it's anti-gay, it's not bigotry, it's speaking out.

I for one would have found it unacceptable if this witch had been retained. And the last thing we should do is support people like that, the people who hate us - even though they claim they don't.


[ Parent ]
How did she know?
How did she know she hired homos?  That's an issue that's not supposed to be raised in a job interview.  I find it unlikely that she asked or the information was volunteered. Sounds like a bogus claim to me.

Lev Raphael, author of My Germany, now on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

[ Parent ]
How about appearance and gaydar.
She's not blind. I agree that "But someone who thinks like she does can impossibly be objective."  I know that doesn't fly legally in this case.  I'm showing my predjudice too. A difference might be that I am willing to listen...Ms Dixon has a mandate.  


[ Parent ]
Gaydar? As if!
Straight people do not have gaydar, despite their claims to the contrary.  They've stolen so much from us, we have to draw the line here.

As for appearance--honey, back in 1989, I asked a gay friend I was staying with in San Francisco if our waiter that night was gay and he said, "You can't tell any more.  Everything's changed since straight men started paying attention to their hair and working out."  He was only partially kidding.

The lines have blurred, and this Dixon woman's perceptions of who is or is not gay are likely as on target as her reasoning about gay rights.


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[ Parent ]
She may simply mean that
in her 20+ years on the job she hired people whom she later discovered to be gay through means other than the job interview - maybe years later.

[ Parent ]
I am troubled by so many aspects of the "Affaire Dixon"
First of all, for many years a good Catholic wife and mother, I was by and large blissfully unaware of the existence of the "Ex-gay" movement at all. Dixon was aware of them and could quote their poorly prepared facts. She had more than a casual aquaintance with the arguments of the Christian Right in opposition to gay rights, certainly a greater familiarity with them than I did when, years ago, I fell in love with a woman. It is one thing to aquire the conception of homosexuality as sinful as a tenet of a conservative christian dogma, it is another to have the anti-gay rights campaign's screeds and propaganda at your fingertips to recite.

That said, I am equally troubled by the University's handling of her.

Using the same standard, a University Housing Officer in Ohio could be cashiered for advocating the recognition of LGBT couples in assigning living space, since Ohio's constitution expressly forbids the recognition of same sex marriage or any attempt to duplicate the rights of marriage by the state.

We would be screaming in unision were a Housing Officer discharged on that basis.

If there has been an investigation that suggests that Ms Dixon implemented her religious viewpoint at work, or if that investigation showed that in her private life Ms Dixon was participating in the campaigns against populations that she was employed to protect, then being asked to leave was certainly appropriate.

I have a suspicion that this might be the case.

But, if she was simply expressing her view, she ought to be disciplined or re-assigned for tying the University to that viewpoint.

Keep in mind that, should the Country turn more conservative (an economic downturn coupled with an attack upon American soil would predictably do that) the actions taken against our opponents will most certainly be taken against our advocates.


"I am not a Christian" - Abraham Lincoln


[ Parent ]
However
If the person speaks as an employee of the university revealing policy, that WOULD be grounds for dismissal.

We have all be debating WHAT Ms. Dixon said, but we may be forgetting the manner in which she said it. Methinks that is what the university will focus on if there is a lawsuit.


[ Parent ]
Television interview one-sided
I think the television interview was one-sided. While they talked to a professor who claimed that he is afraid to speak out, the interview omitted the fact that Dixon as a staff member is not entitled to the same academic freedoms that faculty is. So his fear is irrelevant.

[ Parent ]
Next let's clean the bigots out of the DNC and the RNC...
Next we ought to demand that the Democrats and Republicans clean house. They're infested with bigots and they're getting more open about it.

Billary tried wrapping herself in the Stars and Stripes and called for nuclear strikes on Iran. Then she and Bill wrapped themselves in the Stars and Bars and played a whole deck of race cards. But even that tried and true Dixiecrat maneuver failed. She got shot down for her efforts.

Obama, for his part, is in and out of bed with scum like Mary Mary and the Reverend Donnie McClurkin but repeatedly slaps down genuine anti-racists like Wright who correctly point out the direct like between Bush's abandonment of the Palestinians to zionist apartheid and ethnic cleansing and 9-11. (Wright is likely wrong about the origins of AIDS but he's right about the depraved barbarity of the Tuskegee experiment.)  

McCain, like the two Democrats is a pigheaded opponent of same sex marriage and his 'spirit advisor' Hagee is a certified bigot nut case.

And over at the HQ of the Democratic (sic) National Committee there's Chief of Staff Reverend Leah Daughtry, a pentecostal cult minister who's a pigheaded opponent of same sex marriage, just like Billary and Obama. They're just as bad in the RNC.

In the Congress there's a huge bloc of bigots in both parties. They vote in overwhelming majorities for bigot bills like DOMA and DADT and to make discrimination by cults legal and they refuse to repeal them. These same bigots prevailed on backstabber Barney Frank to cut ENDA to ribbons and tossed it and the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes bill in the garbage to prevent them from being wedge issues. After that treachery maybe they'll rename it the Matthew Shepard - Lawrence King Hate Crimes Bill. And if they want to do a thorough job maybe they'll dump reactionaries like Harry Reid and Dianne Feinstein, two of many Democratic (sic) and Republican Senators who voted for gaybashing Bush nominees for Attorney General and the US Circuit Courts.  

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Sam Adams  


What?
And over at the HQ of the Democratic (sic) National Committee there's Chief of Staff Reverend Leah Daughtry, a pentecostal cult minister who's a pigheaded opponent of same sex marriage, just like Billary and Obama.

So what? It matters what the DNC chief himself thinks. And he's in favor of gay marriage, it was recently announced.

They're just as bad in the RNC.

Really? The fact that they support everything except marriage makes them the same as the ones who vilify and demonize gays? Giving 99.9% is 'just as bad' as not only giving 0.0%, but also exploiting and demonizing gays for political gain?

I appreciate your passion, but make sure that your righteous indignation is directed at the right targets.


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Giving 99.9%?
Making empty gestures in the general direction of 59.9% is probably more accurate.  Still better than exploitation and demonization, though!  :-)

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

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It's a fifty fifty split. They both pray.
The right target for our anger is both parties in equal measure. It doesn't matter what Dean thinks, the vast bulk of the leaders and owners of the Democratic Party are against same sex marriage, including Clinton and Obama. Taking a page from George Wallace's Dixiecrat handbook they take the reactionary position that same sex marriage is a states right' issue.

You're dead wrong when you claim that "The fact that they support everything except marriage makes them the same as the ones who vilify and demonize gays? Giving 99.9% is 'just as bad' as not only giving 0.0%, but also exploiting and demonizing gays for political gain?"

It's 50/50, they're both bad news. The biggest difference is that Democrats lie and some people believe them and Republicans don't bother lying any more.

The Democrats voted for bigoted laws like DADT and DOMA and refuse to repeal them. Democrats gutted ENDA and canned it and the hate crimes bill. The Republicans were just along for the ride. Democrats join Republicans in consistently voting to allow cults like the catholics, mormons and baptists to discriminate against us in hiring and providing services and they vote to put Bushes gay bashers in office and on the bench.

The Democrats promise the sun, moon and stars at election time. But by late November they settle in for politics as usual. In 2006 they promised to end the war but the genocide grinds on killing thousands a week. They promised to help working people but instead voted to bust unions with NAFTA extensions, to cut taxes for the rich so they can further cut social services, schooling and heath care for us. (And don't get all excited about their starvation level minimum wage bill. It should be $25.00 an hour with full benefits.) They're hand puppets for big insurance and big pharma and oppose socialized medicine.

It's delusional to think they'll keep their promises to us and I hope you'll be joining one or another of the mass movements that'll spring up after the elections to help clean up the mess made by the election of the Democrats or Republicans.  

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." Sam Adams  


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Here's the WorldNetDaily link
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...
Catch the part about same gender relationships being more like incestuous and poligamist relationships than committed ones. This is supposed to be open debate?  I don't think so.

WorldNetDaily reports:

   An author who wrote two books about homosexuality told managers at the University of Toledo in an open letter they should praise an administrator who said being "gay" is not the same as black, not suspend her. The comments were addressed to University of Toledo President Lloyd Jacobs by Robert A.J. Gagnon, the author of "The Bible and Homosexual Practice: Texts and Hermeneutics" and "Homosexuality and the Bible: Two Views." . . .

   Gagnon said the closer parallels to adult-committed homosexual relations are not ethnicity or gender but, rather, adult-committed incestuous unions and adult-committed polysexual unions . . .

   He says the most "shameful" part of the University of Toledo's actions is that managers are shutting off any dissent.

   Such actions "come out of the Stalinistic, Soviet state . . .


And this is my...

   point exactly with swearing to "defend the State of California Constitution"

He says the most "shameful" part of the University of Toledo's actions is that managers are shutting off any dissent.

   Such actions "come out of the Stalinistic, Soviet state . . .

and it freezes free speech of dissent employees who disagree with the wording or certain statements, such as marriage "is between on man and one woman" and risk termination if they openly support refrendum amendments that read contrary to the present constitution of which one has sworn to defend.

  And on the "employment at will" contract, I believe is federally unconstitutional since it leaves open avenues wherewith employees can be terminated for "no reason at all", which is a cover for terminating someone because said company decides they don't like someone because, ad infinitum, which null and voids the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Civil Rights Act of 1991.

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


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Employment At Will

Howdy PhylissMs ... Employment At Will is the rule for most employees in the USA.  All organized workers in Unions under contracts can only be disciplined, including fired, for "just cause."  But most workers are "at will" workers, meaning the boss can fire you for any LEGAL reason at all.  The boss can NOT discriminate.  But the boss can fire you because you are gay or lesbian in most states or because of your opinion or because of your outfit or because of anything at all.  That is the way of things without a Union contract.

Now back to the Quaker in California and Ms. Dixon too.  The Quaker was NOT fired.  She simply was not hired because she chose NOT to take the loyalty oath to the state.  She was looking to work FOR THE STATE!  She wanted to be paid partly with tax dollars.  But she would not affirm to defend the constitution of the state.  Not wise.  And I have to still say, a tempest in a tea cup.

If you will not affirm the constitution of your state, then I suggest that you NOT work for the state.  You would be much happier working for an employer that did not offend you with its values.

Just like if Ms. Dixon freely chooses to be a homophobic, though Christian, bigot then she probably should not seek employment as an EEO enforcement officer for an employer with a nondiscrimination policy including glbt folks.  It is that simple.  Ms. Dixon will be much happier working for a homophobic employer.  Toledo University is not a good fit for her.  

A university is probably not a good fit for Ms. Dixon.  She is hanging her "civil rights" argument on the fact that in her good Christian faith, she believes homosexuality is a choice and therefore not worthy of civil rights protection.  But she forgets that religion, including Christianity, is a choice AND is worthy of civil rights protection.  Not too bright ... not to mention her butchering of statistics.  

No, I don't think a university is a good match for Ms. Dixon.  Perhaps Peter could hire her.  He does not seem too concerned about falacies in logic or statistics. (grin)

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


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Whether she is a good match is...

   of no revelance based or her religious and political convictions but is more a personal view point. Under your conception, I may not be a good match for a company because I was a democrat or a republican. Wouldn't that be nice, and a discussion about this did occur here at the blend, revealing persoanl information just to get a job, where we have to reveal private matters to possible employers resulting in not getting the job. Would you think that we should have to reveal our political convictions before being hired, or whether we are gay or straight, just to make a good match? Not I, dear one.

   Let me tell you what happens all the time. A person is discovered or perceived as gay who has worked for a company for two years. They do not fire this person because of that, but several months later, they fire this person, even with excellant evaluations, for "no reason at all" or "they just weren't a good match". A black man works for a company well for two years and then as fellow employees transfer, quit, etc., the replacements become generally more closed minded folks, homophobes, racist, white supremists, and they began to discriminate making petty infraction reports and low work evaluations. The person is eventually fired, for "no reason at all" or poor work ethics.

   What would I do if I were a homophove fundy and became a supervisor of said company? Wait two or three months and fire them for "no reason" or "I felt they weren't a good match".

   It's supposed to be about qualifications to be able to perform the same job for equal pay whether a homophobe or a fundy christian or a woman or a man or a transsexual or a republican or a democrat etc., etc. That's equasl rights, not opinions they weren't a good match.

  Also the state isn't a private company and should not discriminate on grounds of political or personal view points, otherwise, gay people will never get jobs. Only the fundies and bigots will have jobs.

  No Dagon, it's discrimination, pure and simple.

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


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Unions!

PhyllisMs, "Discrimination" refers only to those characteristics named in law or a Union contract.  The situations you desribe certainly do happen.  And they are quite legal in most places in most states.  That is why I am such a huge supporter of organized labor.  Nothing protects an American worker, ESPECIALLY a glbt worker, like a Union Contract at work.  The simple clause, "no worker shall be disciplined except for just cause." is a huge protection.

I am betting that Ohio, like most states, is an "at will" employment state.  If so, the scenarios you desribed are perfectly legal.  Welcome to the USA and welcome to the need for Unions!

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


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This whole case is puzzling
If Ms. Dixon acted on any of those prejudices in her role as a VP of UToledo, including using her position to advance political views of any stripe, then yes, IMO, she should be fired.  As far as I can see, that's not what happened.  She wrote a bigoted op-ed piece.  So what?  The issue is whether she's discriminating against GLBT employees in her job.  If someone can prove that, then yes, she needs to be let go.  However, as Phyllis alludes to, if bigots get fired everytime they say something offensive, than those of us who have "offensive" "lifestyles" are going to continue to have a hard time finding work.  The issue isn't whether Ms. Dixon's a bigot, it's whether she's doing her job in a bigoted way.

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lawsuit(s) are sure to follow
Dixon seems like she is trying to set-up sort of legal precedent and grounds for some type of lawsuit against the university.  I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that she certainly has grounds for a civil rights complaint and/or wrong termination suit.  

Her anti-gay article was phrased grey-ishly enough that one could argue either way whether she was representing her employer.  

It's true that employees do not have free speech protections.  However, if the University of Toledo is a public school, then she may have some free speech protections as a public employee.

More troubling is how quickly the university came to a decision to fire.  We obviously don't know the details of the schools personnel decision, but it seems like an awfully quick decision.  

Clearly, this story is going to wind up in court.


As a former student at U of Toledo
I began college at the U of Toledo while I was still a high school student and took several classes there before I went off to college full-time. My classes at TU were much more challenging than the ones at the humongous state university from which I have a degree. As a TU student and while still a minor, I was harassed in multiple ways by my professor (who is still on the faculty) because I was female, Jewish, gay, American rather than Canadian and lived in a ritzy neighborhood with rich Republican parents.

I don't give a hoot about the private opinions of the university's VP and certainly don't think that she should have been fired due to them. If she starts harassing people, then there's a problem


She was not fired - she was suspended
At least this was according to Peter LaBarbara.  The University is going to argue that this was because she discussed a sensitive issue that was undergoing negotiation (benefits), in a public article, without going through proper channels.  

Staff do not have the academic freedom benefits that tenured faculty do.  


She was fired
According to an interview she gave, she was fired - http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/st...

The article is one-sided but it does say she got confirmation that she was let go.


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All the comments
at the abc blurb are pro Dixon and anti school.

[ Parent ]
....That is an ABC affiliate?
Must be owned lock stock and barrel by AFA and WND people. Not a one of the commenters knows anything about employment law or the constitution!  But that isn't news.  

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


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Offensive
As a black gay man, her comments were very disrespectful to me.  I'm glad the university took action.

Dixon Fired
The University of Toledo should be commended for terminating the employment of Crystal Dixon.  Dixon is clearly a religious zealot and a bigot.  She is unfit to hold any human resources position let alone serving as associate vice president for human resources of a large public university.  If you have any doubt, read the material below.  

4/04 - Toledo Free Press editorial:  Gay Rights and Wrongs
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

4/18 - Crystal Dixon responds to Gay Rights and Wrongs in the Toledo Free Press.
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

5/02 - Dr. Lloyd Jacobs, University of Toledo President, responds to Dixon's column in TFP.
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

5/02 - Toledo Free Press article: Dixon suspended over Toledo Free Press article.
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

5/02 - WTOL11 article and video on Dixon Controversy.
http://www.wtol.com/global/sto...

5/03 - Toledo Blade article: Crystal Dixon on paid administrative leave.
http://www.toledoblade.com/app...

5/09 - Toledo Free Press article on Dixon suspension.
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

5/09 - Toledo Free Press Editorial on Dixon Controversy.
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

5/09 - Toledo Free Press publisher's statement on Dixon Controversy.
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

5/09 - Letters on Dixon controversy published in Toledo Free Press.
http://www.toledofreepress.com...

5/09 - WTOL11: Dixon no longer University of Toledo employee.
http://www.wtol.com/Global/sto...

5/09 - WTVG video interview with Dixon and article on termination by University of Toledo.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/st...

5/10 - Toledo Blade article: Crystal Dixon no longer employed by the University of Toledo.
http://www.toledoblade.com/app...


Ms. Dixon
I'm White, queer, and laughing my a$$ off.

What have you done today, to make ya feel PROUD?
~Heather Small


Really Sad
It's sad that as a black woman, Dixon does not support another social group receiving equal rights in society.  As a black gay man, I understand the struggles that women experience.  Religious fundamentalism is destroying this world.

Consider this...
I worked in the marketing department for a hospital. If I wrote an article in my local newspaper urging the community not to get flu shots, I would certainly be fired.

When you work for an organization, you can't work against its goals and mission.

What Dixon did is no different from my example. Any hospital has the right to fire an employee who endangers public health by spreading ignorance and lies. The university simply did the same thing -- fired someone for spreading ignorance and intolerance in direct conflict with their mission.

Oh, papa tuney. We've got a loony.

- Motormouth Maybelle


It's possible that she has been sanctioned before
- many universities have an orderly plan for firing employees past the probation stage.

At mine, the employee is mandated to have a chance at counselling, with specific goals set, and it takes about three offenses to fire someone. Immediate firing is reserved for flagrant offenses (getting busted with drugs, stealing, etc).


A different perspective
Hello, I'm a new visitor here.  I found your blog in a Google search attempting to learn more about the story on the firing of Crystal Dixon.  

I would say that I share a lot of religious beliefs in common with Ms. Dixon and agree with much, but not all, of her editorial comments.  I am also what many of you here may consider the "enemy", as some of my beliefs conflict with those many of you hold.  I am a white, heterosexual male, christian, with mostly conservative political views.  But I also feel that I have some common ground with many of you here.  

I have enjoyed reading the different perspectives found in the comments here, and have found serveral that are quite insiteful.  I can also understand why this is a very emotional issue.  Most of Ms. Dixon's stated belief probably strongly contradict the held beliefs of most who post here.  It's never easy to hear something that so vehemently contradicts what you hold to be true.  It is very easy to take strong offense from something pontificating views so diametrically different than your own.  That many of you have overcome this natural reaction to contend that it appears Ms. Dixon may have been wrongly fired is highly commendable.

I think that one of the areas that we have in common is how many of the conservative and religious segments have responded to those pontificating LGBT beliefs and views through violence, harrassment, disrespectful name calling, and other illegal and/or crass behavior.  I do not think that just because someone hold views opposites to ones that you hold as most important, justifies responses with the aforementioned actions.  

I do feel that living a homosexual lifestyle is a choice.  I don't feel though that to choose not to live such a lifestyle is necessarily anything but the most extremely difficult.  But I don't feel that living a homosexual lifestyle qualifies a person as evil, nor does it disqualify them from being a good neighbor, family member, friend, or coworker.  I'm certainly not perfect by my own standards, and I try not to hold anyone to a standard of perfection.  I also believe that people should have a right to choose their own beliefs and that I should respect the right of others to choose beliefs vastly different than my own.  As a Christian, I feel it my duty to love everyone as best as I can.  

Now my hope is that we all could agree on general principle that someone working for the government, as Ms. Dixon did, should have a right to express personal political and religious opinions without fear of reprisal because her boss just because he disagrees with her opinions or finds them offensive.  Certainly there are some exceptions to this principle, such as if the person breaks any laws in expressing their opinions or if the person attempts to give the opinion as the offical opinion of the government entity.  I realize that some of you felt that Ms. Dixon was attempting to give opinion as Vice President of HR and not just Crystal Dixon.  I disagree with that opinion, but respect that you see it differently.

I feel that freedom of speech and religion are two very important freedoms that we all must work to preserve.  It's realively easy to support those rights for someone you are sympathetic too and is exercising those rights in a cause you support.  It's much harder to do so when it's someone whose beliefs you disagree with and whose cause you oppose.  But if we are to preserve this right, we must stand up for those with whom we disagree.  I have stood up in church and publicly admonised others to show love to the LGBT community and to remember to accept your right to disagree with our religious belief.  I applaud those of you who have stood up for Ms. Dixon, even though you disagree with what she says.


dude lrbinfrisco
are you gay?  because if you're not, how can you possibly state that it is a choice with any credibility?  why do you think anyone cares about your opinion about it being a choice, anyway?  you do realize that your opinion is only that?  science AND religion will prove that it is not a choice.  it's unfortunate that the proper education needed by people like you is being refused as
It's never easy to hear something that so vehemently contradicts what you hold to be true.  It is very easy to take strong offense from something pontificating views so diametrically different than your own.
 once again, i would remind everyone that the Bible says "Male AND female" not "Male OR female."  try reading up on gender differences in people and get a clue.  you sound like an idiot when you say
I don't feel though that to choose not to live such a lifestyle is necessarily anything but the most extremely difficult.
 how the hell do you know?  don't you see that you have chosen to distrust gay people when they tell you who they are? you have decided that they are lying to you, pure and simple.  it is not about one group seeing it differently than the other.  it is about one group not believing/listening to/understanding/researching what the other group is saying.  the Bible and Biblical scholars have been around a long time and we are all very familiar with your viewpoint about "loving the sinner" and all that bullshit.  but, your viewpoint is not the only interpretation of the Bible.  if you are one of the crazies who ignores science, there's no hope for you on many levels.  but there is building scientific evidence that being gay is not a choice.  so, you have to figure out how to reconcile that with your current views on the Bible and religion.  just like with Galileo, and Darwin, and all the other scientific discoveries that "religious" people have had to reconcile with what "believers" used to believe.  this is not about freedom of speech and freedom of religion.  it's about truth and ignorance.  it's about something that is staring you right in the face, flat out TRUTH, that you continue to ignore based on faulty interpretations and teachings.  so don't bring your patronizing bullshit here in an attempt to "love the sinner."  it makes me want to kick you in the balls.  i'm quite certain that you don't have the same fireball in your stomach when you think about "the gays" and how you are superior to them.  maybe a flutter.  i cannot wait until you meet your God and he tells you where to shove your moralistic preaching.  i will be standing right next to him saying "i told you so."    

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clarification
dixon did not say that homosexuality was a choice, she said that the homosexual lifestyle is a choice.

there's a difference.


Homosexual Lifestyle?
How do you define the 'homosexual lifestyle'?  Crystal Dixon beliefs are straight up evil, and I'm a black man!  She's arguing that a group of people should not have civil rights in society.  However, her argument is based on uneducated and pure bigoted facts.  I'm a Christian too.  But, I don't think Jesus would be arguing against a group of people.  And as a BLACK WOMAN, Crystal Dixon should be the last person arguing against people receiving rights in society.  Fundamentalism is dangerous.  Dixon is a bigot brainwashed by right wing Christianity.

Dixon Termination
5/13  Toledo Blade article on Dixon Termination

http://www.toledoblade.com/app...

5/08  Copy of letter from Dr. Lloyd Jacobs, Univerity of Toledo President, to Crystal Dixon notifying her of employment termination.

http://www.toledoblade.com/ass...


Some Clarifications
As you can probably tell by my username, I am currently a student at The University of Toledo.
There is actually one huge clarification I would like to make
Crystal Dixon is NOT a 23 year employee at The University of Toledo, she worked at the former Medical College of Ohio, and was brought over to the university when the two institutions merged, she kept her seniority and her position in the new merged institution.  PRIOR to the merger of the two institutions (after the merger discussion had reached the point that it was up for approval by the Board of Regents), there was a rather hard drive to get "domestic partner benefits" approved for the unions at the university (but not the medical college as they were separate entities at the time).  At the time I found it odd that the union would push so hard to get the approval of domestic partner benefits put in as part of their contract.  It now makes sense.  There are multiple unions at the university, so I am not sure which specific unions the domestic partner health benefits apply to, but I believe it was the union representing the professors.  

The fact that Crystal Dixon specifically mentioned the domestic partner benefits and the "alleged discrimination" directly reflects her intimate institutional knowledge of the contracts that allow for the domestic partner benefits.  That alone implies that she was using knowledge gained in her position as an administrator at the university in the article.  As far as disciplinary actions against her and her hiring practices, The University of Toledo itself only knows of her actions going back to the merger of the two institutions, so her actual record at The University of Toledo only extends back a few years, prior to that her actual record only applies to The Medical University of Ohio.  The fact that she was brought over to the new merged university obviously shows that there is no racial discrimination on the part of the university, her argument on that point is moot.  

Crystal Dixon's argument that her right to free speech was violated because she was speaking under the protective blanket of religion is also a moot point.  The University of Toledo is quite proactive in its support of most religions.  They have a very active Catholic community in Corpus Christie Parish, they have many Christian groups that are active in the university community.  The only instance of the university not supporting religion is when the multi faith center located on the edge of campus in an older community in Toledo wanted to expand to allow for more space for Muslim/Hindu/Buddhist services.  The community members objected because they didn't want "unruly" college students to take over their neighborhood.  It should be noted that in the current incarnation the multi faith center is predominately christian.  

Furthermore, Crystal Dixon has overtly shown that she is not capable of performing her job at the university.  First and foremost, she refered to the university as the University of Toledo, the proper name is The University of Toledo, she doesn't even know the proper name of the institution that she works for.  Secondly the statistics she quoted are not consistent, they quote statistics for college educated gay couples, median income for couples in the US (no specification as to sexual orientation or race) and non college educated black males (who only make $500 less a year than this white straight college educated male in Toledo).  As a graduate of the graduate school of the university, AND associate vice president of human relations, she should be able to properly read and interpret statistics.  

President Jacobs was correct in terminating Crystal Dixon's employment with The University of Toledo.  As someone in charge of Human Resources, her overt bigoted beliefs are in direct contradiction with the university's mission statement and written policies.  As an administrator she is put on a shorter leash than the professors at the university.  The fact that she was fired has in no way stifled the free exchange of ideas on the university grounds.  I think that the professors who make that statement are confusing their own apathy with fear of a nonexistant situation.  The university has more important things to deal with like the low quality of student that the high schools are producing (I overheard a freshman state that they did not know what long division was and that they did not know that one could do division by hand), the poor state of the buildings and classrooms, and the apathy of the professors towards the students.  

BTW...Crystal Dixon was offered an alternative position before she was terminated, she refused because it was not a position equal to her original position (an associate vice president), and she felt that she did nothing wrong, so she should not be moved or have to take a pay cut in accordance with her new position with fewer responsibilties.  With the median income being $30,000 as she stated, and with gay individuals making in excess of $80,000 a year, I am wondering what category she fell into making in excess of $136,000 a year as a black christian female who has to deal with discrimination every day of her life.    


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