Advocacy groups turn up the heat on Clinton and Obama

Props to HRC

They done good on this one.

And good for Hillary particularly, and Obama also, for finally saying the right thing.

Pace's bigotry is all to our benefit, long term, because it makes it impossible any more for politicians to hide behind half statements.

All we need in this country is for some prominent politicians to stand up and say the opposite of whatever the hate-mongers of the GOP and the Religious Right are saying. People will listen (well, some of them), and we will win.

Meanwhile, keep the pressure on every Democrat to do right. Pace has generated enough outrage to give cover to even the timidest Democrat.

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by: S1 @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 16:32:46 PM CDT

I think

HRC has finally figured out that they need to actually listen to (read blogs) the people that they are supposed to represent.  Maybe now they'll be an effective organization.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

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by: Daimeon @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 16:39:20 PM CDT

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Finally!

Finally both of them did the right thing!

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by: miss wild thing @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 16:41:33 PM CDT

credibility

I share the perspective of the National Stonewall Democrats on this issue. Clinton, Obama, Edwards and others are running for the DEMOCRATIC nomination for President and they should know that our 2004 party platform says, "We will defend the dignity of all Americans against those who would undermine it."

General Pace's comments were clearly intended to undermine the dignity of me and my family. Which of these candidates is coming to the defense of my family?

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by: Clark414 @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 18:08:19 PM CDT

Dragged Kicking and Screaming

Is it doing "the right thing" when you are coerced to do it?  And when Hillary left us to hang high and dry, saying our immorality is "for others to conclude," it was on Good Morning America, with millions watching, then that clip shown on CNN and other venues.  How many people actually saw and heard Hillary backtrack on it? Same with Obama. 

Obama, Edwards and Hillary have this in common- they would boff us in the backseat of their vehicles in the dark.  But they don't like to be seen with us, walking down the street, in the daylight.

=>The truth usually isn't pretty. Don't blame me for telling it.<=

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by: Chadster @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 18:13:30 PM CDT

It is bad enough that General Pace, as an apparent spokesmodel

for the neo-con, christo-fascist Right, attempted to hijack the discussion over a policy that was not instituted on the basis of morality and make it focus on the Religious Right's spin. It irks me that news organizations are now running around asking everyone in sight if they think we are "immoral". . .which is exactly what the Right wants. They WANT the discussion to be centered on their "religious" beliefs rather than the policy.

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by: kevinbgoode @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 21:02:04 PM CDT

Kudos to

Markos Moulitsas, who I don't believe gets enough credit from the gay community for his unequivocal support of gay rights.

http://www.dailykos....
http://www.dailykos....

Kos was one of the few who in the middle of the 2006 campaign stood up to Harold Ford, knowing full well that the Senate could be at stake. Te amo, Markos.

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by: Gabriel @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 21:09:35 PM CDT

Not to mention...

Markos is quite cute and charming in person.

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by: Ian @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 23:40:37 PM CDT

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You gotta be kidding

I'm sorry, but KO$ is the bloggie equivalent of a paid talking head on TV.  He's got all the ethics of the average vulture.  KO$ will say or do any-damn-thing, pander to any-damn-one, to elect dems.  That's what he gets paid for, and he truly doesn't give a shit what his master may or may not stand for, because KO$ stands for absolutely nothing.

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by: AlanSmithee @ Fri Mar 16, 2007 at 08:56:32 AM CDT

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OK

Of course I would rather have the candidates get it right the first time.  So they have to be pressed to get it right.  But geez, I'd rather have them get it right than not at all.

Here is Richardson's comment, the first time out.

SANTA FE,  NM- New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson today called on Congress to repeal the US Military's policy of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" regarding homosexuality.  The Governor also repeated his reaction to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Peter Pace's remarks that homosexuality is "immoral".  The Governor issued this statement:

"I do not believe that homosexuality is immoral, and I believe Congress should repeal `Don't Ask, Don't Tell.' I voted against it when I served in Congress.  People should not be judged based on their sexual orientation.  Throughout my entire career I have fought for equal rights and against discrimination of any kind.

While others talk about doing the right thing, on my watch in New  Mexico we've made significant progress.  I support civil unions or domestic partnerships, and as Governor I have passed hate crime legislation.  I also supported and signed legislation extending civil rights protections based on sexual orientation, and I ordered that access to health insurance and benefits be extended to the domestic partners of state employees.

The remarks by General Pace are unfortunate and the Administration should reject them."
 

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by: miss wild thing @ Thu Mar 15, 2007 at 21:59:57 PM CDT