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Presidential candidates on marriage equality

by: Pam Spaulding

Wed May 23, 2007 at 15:00:00 PM EDT


Every so often I post an update on the presidential contender positions on marriage equality. It's interesting to keep track of those "I'm for civil unions" positions held by this crop of Dems.

It's important to know whether they advocate the repeal/amending of the 1996 federal Defense of Marriage Act, which would allow civil unions created at the state level to have full parity of benefits at the federal level. Over 1,000 benefits that married people take for granted, including social security and military pension partner benefits, are denied to gay couples with CUs.

So, here we go...

Pam Spaulding :: Presidential candidates on marriage equality
* Delaware Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr.
-- Marriage: Wishy-washy. He feels marriage is "inevitable," and that committed couples are "entitled to any fewer rights than any other American." Getting there [marriage equality] will "be an incredibly difficult thing for America to grapple with."
-- DOMA: He voted for it in 1996; hasn't commented on his position today.

* New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
-- Marriage: Nope. It's between a man and a woman. She's taken the standard civil unions position ("I believe in full equality of benefits, nothing left out...From my perspective there is a greater likelihood of us getting to that point in civil unions or domestic partnerships and that is my very considered assessment.")
-- DOMA: No position taken so far on amending or repeal.

* Connecticut Sen. Christopher J. Dodd
-- Marriage: No. Civil unions, yes.  "I think it ought to happen. To me the country is way ahead of us on these issues. I think the American people are there."
-- DOMA: For amending or repeal.

* Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards
-- Marriage: Nope ("it's a jump for me to get to gay marriage. I haven't yet got across that bridge." ... "I wish I knew the right answer."). Civil unions, yes (Civil unions? Yes. Partnership benefits? Yes).
-- DOMA: In 2004, he said during a Dem debate: "I would not support the Defense of Marriage Act today, if there were a vote today, which is the question you just asked Senator Kerry. I'm not sure what he said about that. But I would not vote for it." He then undermined his equality-minded position, by continuing with "the part I agree with is the states should not be required to recognize marriages from other states."

* Former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel
-- Marriage: unconditionally for full marriage equality. At a May 2007 forum in NH, he stated: "If a couple of lesbians or gay men want to get married, and they love each other, they should have the right to do that and enjoy all the legalities in our society that go along with that...Love between a man and a woman is beautiful, love between a woman and a woman is beautiful, love between a man  and a man is love...is beautiful too. What this world need is a lot more than what we presently have."
-- DOMA: for repeal/amendment of DOMA

* Ohio Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich
-- Marriage: on the record for full marriage equality
-- DOMA: it's assumed Kucinich would want DOMA amended/repealed if CUs are on the table.

* Illinois Sen. Barack Obama
-- Marriage: No. Civil unions, yes.
-- DOMA:  when he was running for the Senate in 2004 - "I will vote for its repeal on the Senate floor." No word on any change so far on the position.

* New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson
-- Marriage: Nope. "on the issue of gay marriage, I'm just not there. I want to be honest."
-- DOMA: He voted for it in 1996, and stated in Feb 2007 that he still stands by that vote now.


And just for fun...

* Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani
-- Marriage: Nope. Depending on the direction of the wind, he's for or against civil unions/domestic partnerships. In May 2007, he flip-flopped once again, in a speech at Houston Baptist University that he is proud of submitting, a bill in NY creating domestic partnerships for gay and lesbian couples.
-- DOMA: No stated opinion.

Romney
* Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney
-- Marriage: Nope. For your amusement, click on the above graphic for Bay Windows' reporting on Multiple Choice Mitt's history, The Romney Files.
-- DOMA: Of course he doesn't want it repealed.

Don't even bother with the rest of the GOP clown car...

* Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback
* Attorney John H. Cox of Illinois: "speaks of his lesbian sister when he discusses his opposition to gay marriage."
* Former Virginia Gov. James S. Gilmore III
* Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee
* California Rep. Duncan Hunter
* Arizona Sen. John McCain
* Texas Rep. Ron Paul
* Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo
* Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy G. Thompson

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No presidential candidate fails to advocate for full marriage equality will get a dime from me. And that's what I'm writing on every direct mail envelope those f*ckers send me.

choice
So let's see if I have this straight?  I can vote for Kucinich (again) or Mike Gravel (who?).  Where's Al Sharpton and Carol Mosely-Braun when I need them?

Nancy, I'm totally with you....years ago I contributed to Barbara Boxer...for the last 2 or so years I send their direct mail money request back with my message to BB, "When you support my full equality as a US citizen I will reconsider."


{SARCASM ALERT} Look at Hillary's Bright Side
She did say that if Gov. Spitzer works to enact same-sex marriage in New York then, "I won't stand in the way."

See?  She won't stand in the way.  What a Pal.

=>The truth usually isn't pretty. Don't blame me for telling it.<=


Pam, what about adding
pro-LGBT legislation that each candidate has sponsored or authored?  I know that's a lot of work, but it would provide a fuller picture of where their heads are.  Some of them are friendlier than others, even if they (except Gravel & Kucinich) all fail to value equality for all Americans.

It occurs to me, another question to ask candidates: "how can we trust you to uphold the Constitution when you state clear contempt for the 14 amendment?"

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if someone wants to do the legwork
I'll gladly add it to the post. I'm kind of swamped right now.

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Edwards on DOMA
Edwards said in 2004 that he would vote to repeal DOMA. From the transcript of the February 26, 2004 debate by democratic candidates:

KING: Janet, you have a question for Senator Edwards.

CLAYTON: Senator Edwards, you also oppose gay marriage?

EDWARDS: I do. I do. But can I...

CLAYTON: So why would you have opposed Rosie O'Donnell getting married today? Why does that make a difference? Why is that a threat?

EDWARDS: Here is my belief. I believe that this is an issue that ought to be decided in the states. I think the federal government should honor whatever decision is made by the states.

I want to say a word in answer to the question you asked very directly. I would not support the Defense of Marriage Act today, if there were a vote today, which is the question you just asked Senator Kerry. I'm not sure what he said about that. But I would not vote for it.

(LAUGHTER)

KING: You would not vote for it?

EDWARDS: I would not. I would not for a very simple reason. There's a part of it -- there's a part of it that I agree with, and there's a part of it I disagree with.

The Defense of Marriage Act specifically said that the federal government is not required to recognize gay marriage even if a state chooses to do so. I disagree with that.

I think states should be allowed to make that decision. And the federal government shouldn't do it.

And can I say just one other word about...

BROWNSTEIN: The part that you agree with is what?

EDWARDS: Well, the part I agree with is the states should not be required to recognize marriages from other states. That's already in the law, by the way, without DOMA.

Can I just say one other thing, because the other people have talked about this? On the constitutional question, it is really important for us to step back from this. Senator Kerry just talked about the political use of the Constitution. What's happening here is this president is talking about first amending the United States Constitution for a problem that does not exist. The law today does not require one state to recognize the marriage of another state.

That's number one. And that's been the law for many, many years.

Number two, we have amended the United States Constitution to end slavery, to give women the right to vote. This is clearly nothing but politics. It's a problem that does not exist today. And we need to stand up very strongly on that.



thanks
I updated the entry on Edwards. I wonder if his position has evolved at all on the whole "leave it to the states" response, considering his stumping about civil rights, when that position of course, allows the majority to determine the civil rights of a minority group with amendments.

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