A lesbian mom gives Mitt a piece of her mind

Lesbian Mom: "You're hurting me. You're hurting my kids."

Romney: "Blah, blah, blah.  And blah."

Romney behind the scenes: "She can kiss my golden dick."

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by: Holly Capote @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 09:06:26 AM CDT

I have never seen him

express any sign of being human, either as a candidate or as the governor. He will botch a line sometimes or misidentify someone - in fact, he has a pretty high error rate. But he only seems to show emotion on demand, like when he was temporarily outraged that gay people "are actually having children" or when he shed crocodile tears for the family friend who showed him that a woman's right to choose is sacrosanct.

To err is human, but to occasionally malfunction and require software updates is machine. It freaks the hell out of me.

What the hell was I doing in Oaxaca in 1992, on the eve of the Zapatista revolution?

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by: Cambridge Kid @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 09:34:51 AM CDT

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So, Ms. Fish wasted her breath in appealing to his humanity.

He's a fundyborg.

Ms. Fish will be absorbed.

Resistance is futile.

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by: Holly Capote @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 09:38:36 AM CDT

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Haha, yeah basically

unless she can find his power source.

What the hell was I doing in Oaxaca in 1992, on the eve of the Zapatista revolution?

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by: Cambridge Kid @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 09:41:22 AM CDT

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EM Pulse

Maybe we can send an electromagnetic pulse at Fundy candidates, see if they short out.

Or, at least, force the Chimp to answer questions extemporaneously.  That in itself would be worth the cost of the equipment!

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by: JoshWatermanMN @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 10:04:28 AM CDT

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Ms. Fish will absorb him

Well, that sounds kind of gross but I believe that America is getting kind of tired of being the hate capitol of the globe.

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by: Petey @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 17:53:16 PM CDT

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Fundies are great in PR and Customer Service I bet

You respond to a person's question with some platitude--"Oh, that's just great!" or "I am so sorry you feel that way," then launch into the company line, "Marriage is for straights, you silly little hellbound lesbian!"  Under no circumstances do you actually engage intellectually.

I forgive those poor people stuck in customer service jobs who have to engage in such soul-sucking inauthentic dialogue, but for a powerful person like Romney there is no excuse.  He doesn't have to worry about losing a paycheck for choosing to engage people as intellectual beings rather than customers to be appeased at the lowest possible cost.  Customer service workers answer to a hierarchy; who is Romney answering to?

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by: JoshWatermanMN @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 10:00:24 AM CDT

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the Fundie Product Line

is chock-full of vitamin-deficient, pre-canned statements.  and yes, no discussion of the actual ingredients in them, EVER. 

such as what, specifically, are these traits that only the father can provide to a child and what, specifically, are the traits that only the mother can provide?  hunting from the father and baking from the mother?  Fundie Product Line Service Reps, we need answers!

The gays stole my lunch money

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by: matt in mpls @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 10:07:24 AM CDT

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Apt analogy.

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by: Holly Capote @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 10:11:58 AM CDT

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exaclty

He essentially said, "it's great you're working through this problem I have."  He's pro-family but against a child in a loving home. In states that don't have protections for LGBT parents, children do get taken out of loving, stable homes. I wrote a diary (and an update diary) about just such a case a few weeks back.

Mitt or any of the GOP field is a terrifying prospect.  If elected, any one of them could ensure a long-term homobigoted SCOTUS and we could see many local LGBT friendly laws go the way of the Dodo.  Whew....  that's my Ultimate (as in the Marvel storylines) scenario. 

It's also frightening that he's the GOP's top fundraising candidate right now.  The media are ready to swoon for him too. Rodger Simon of Politico on Romney's performance in the last GOP debate:

Strong, clear, gives good soundbite and has shoulders you could land a 737 on.

Electricity's for light bulbs!

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by: n8nyc @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 12:52:43 PM CDT

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I missed your diary before

That is truly appalling. What a sick bastard that judge is. It seems that the interests of the birth mother, the child, and the adoptive parent, plus the professional opinion of the social service worker get thrown out the window because the judge thinks that lesbians are "icky".

Can you imagine if a family court judge were sifting through a case and said, nope, sorry, the adoptive parents are just too fat and ugly. I can't even wrap my mind around them having sex. At some point the child will realize that they are having gross fat-person sex too, and I just can't expose an innocent young person to that. Back to the foster home! It is all so juvenile and absurd that it would be comical if it weren't so heartbreaking.

Thank you for posting the update. And don't worry about Mitt's shoulders too much. He was lucky to slide by in a state that is less focused on superficial questions like "would he be a good drinking buddy?" and "how well does he fill out his magic underwear?" Put him before a national audience and he will get roasted.

What the hell was I doing in Oaxaca in 1992, on the eve of the Zapatista revolution?

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by: Cambridge Kid @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 13:10:57 PM CDT

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Yeah

that story made me sick to my stomach.  I was so glad the child made it back home.

Lol about Mitt's shoulders.  I hope you're right about his national roasting. :)  That would be a wonder to behold.

Electricity's for light bulbs!

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by: n8nyc @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 13:46:35 PM CDT

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I once lobbied a Congressman

Senator Mel Martinez, supporter of the FMA. My Florida friends were trying to speak out against it. They spoke with his secretary (of course). I saw three young twenty-somethings like me. The kind of people I'd go to bars with. Here they were. Two of them pleading and insisting on freedom from state-sponsored prejudice, the other one doing those "customer service" talking points. Trying to appease us with all the right words. My peeps had her on the run. "State's rights?" Why are we defining marriage for everyone with the FMA? She actually tried to say that under the FMA, Massachusetts would get to keep marriage. "Well what you see on paper tends to differ with how the law gets practiced". You've all read the two sentences of the FMA. Pretty damned cut-and-dry to me.

She threw everything she could:
"civil unions",
"this is a heated debate and we'll discuss it on the floor", "we've heard all sides on this",
"there's no way any legislator can divorce their personal beliefs from their decisions".

And she reminded us, time and again, that Martinez supported the FMA because of his "personal beliefs" about the need for "mothers and fathers".

It was a hell of a debriefing when we left her. But we think that we gave her a good backing into a corner.

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by: h3986 @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 19:31:15 PM CDT

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My main point

Like someone here said, she was a victim too. Forced to sell the robotic, meaningless talking points, just to appease us. She might have went home thinking her job was not that great.

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by: h3986 @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 19:33:03 PM CDT

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Romney is nothing more than...

...a glorified salesman.  That's all that MBAs are.  Some--like Romney--are better at it than others--e.g. GWBush.

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by: raj @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 14:39:40 PM CDT

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She took a page from suffrage

Her question to him was great.  It should be put to all of  the candidates. 

Women fighting for the right to vote stood in front of the White House burning pages of speeches made by the (Democratic) President who was rallying support for WWI.  He was calling it a war for democracy and the women protesting him were mocking his calls for democracy abroad while limiting democracy at home by preventing women from voting. 

Good for her - and lets hear more of it!!!!

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by: Patrick @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 09:46:32 AM CDT

Hell yeah!

We see over and over again that it is much easier to dehumanize an abstraction than a real-life person. If they want to say that our families don't matter, they have to step out of the world of political theory and focus groups and tell us face-to-face.

Even if it doesn't resonate with politicians, it brings it home to voters. THIS is what a lesbian mother with two young children looks like. THIS is who you are hurting. Now show us which straight couples are being hurt by gay marriage? Anyone?

What the hell was I doing in Oaxaca in 1992, on the eve of the Zapatista revolution?

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by: Cambridge Kid @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 10:02:20 AM CDT

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They believe no such thing

"People can live their lives as they choose"

I don't understand why more religionists such as RomDum don't get called on this specific lie - because from them, it is tantamount to a lie, for it implies that they believe that's the way it should be and should have always been.

The next time that the stooges get together to hold a joint lie conference, ensure that they are asked what their views were prior to decrimialization of sodomy - and if they have so-called 'strict constructionist' opposition to Lawrence v. Texas would they support a constitutional amendment that would have the same effect.

Have Wolfie of Chrissy or whoever ask them to say, yes or no, wther they can agree with this statement:

"My personal beliefs are that homosexuality is wrong and that gay marriage is wrong.  However, I recognize the current legal reality that same-sex couples do have the right to live togther and be free from criminal sanction.  Moreover, I not only have never done anything to block the removal of such criminal sanction, but as president I also will do nothing - covertly or overtly, passively or actively - that will alter that status quo."

Can ya say 'yes' to that, RomDum?

Kat

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 09:47:14 AM CDT

"People can live their lives as they choose" also implies...

...that sexuality is choice, so Romney is a potential homo who chose to be hetero.  Therefore, if he chose heterosexuality, he sees the sexual beauty in men, but just chose women.  I wish he'd chat about how he finds men hot, but chose women nevertheless.

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by: Holly Capote @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 09:52:33 AM CDT

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yes! because lord knows

how i struggle with heterosexuality....it's like god is whispering "angelina jolie...." into my ear, but i just clap my hands down on them and scream "clive owen!  clive owen!" until the whispering stops.  what name did god whisper into mitt's ear? 

The gays stole my lunch money

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by: matt in mpls @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 10:16:09 AM CDT

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Yep.

It's crazy, isn't it?  If one chooses sexuality, then the assumption is that we all teeter between homo and hetero.  Now, to varying degrees, I think that we all do, but fundies seem to believe that they're intrinsically hetero, whereas gay people choose their sexuality.  Therefore, some submit and some choose.  I get dizzy trying to untangle their cognitive convolutions.

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by: Holly Capote @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 10:20:47 AM CDT

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Clive Owen

Now, if only Owen had been in Velvet Goldmine, or more recently, the Tudors, doing what Jonathan Rhys Myers did in the season one finale.  Yow.

Owen's cologne ad is one of the hottest photos of any star since, jeez, those early dewy ones of Gary Cooper where he looks like a god.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 14:48:06 PM CDT

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When men and women express their sexual joys

The world of hope and love gets an enhancing boost.

Heaven bless to men and women who love sexuality :)

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by: h3986 @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 19:37:39 PM CDT

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Mitt the illogical.

1. "Who's going to tell us what a civil right is and what's not? Well, the people will."

If that logic was true, then there will still be segregation laws against minority races.

2. "Every child has a right to a mother and a father."

Yet another illogical reasoning from Mr. Romney:
-If a child deserves a "mother and a father", then bring some of them home from Iraq.  I don't think that a child will deserve a dead mother/father.
-Gay parents raise children better than, uh, certain people...like Tom and Katie or the now-divorced Britney and K-Fed.  Don't forget the parents who kill their children so that they could join God in Heaven.

3. "I'm going to want to see a marriage limited to a man and a woman.  I don't want to see civil union either."

What a "marriage nazi".

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by: Blood From Machines @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 11:07:15 AM CDT

Brother Mitt (or, perhaps, Catcher's Mitt)

"If that logic was true, then there will still be segregation laws against minority races."

And lets not forget laws against minority religions AND official state religions.

Or, is Mitt willing to let *that* be decided state-by-state (as was the strident view of former Alabama Gov. Fob James)?

How about a Mormon - from somewhere *other* than Utah -  asking him that?

Kat

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 11:16:49 AM CDT

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oops

It should have read:

'And lets not forget laws against minority religions AND laws establshing official state religions.'

Just a wee bit of difference.

Kat

>^..^<

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by: KatRose @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 11:18:09 AM CDT

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Is he saying what I think he's saying?

Marriage is an institution which is designed to bring a man and woman together to raise a child...

Did Mitt just come out against marriage rights for the elderly? Sure sounds like it to me.

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by: Narc @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 18:21:46 PM CDT

Not only that...

Not only that, but he should realize that people don't need marriage in order to raise a child.  Sure the church nazis have their own PC term for this ("out of wedlock"), but it's not really "taboo" to have a child outside of marriage.

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by: Blood From Machines @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 18:28:13 PM CDT

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Excellent point, Narc

It also sounds like he doesn't think that couples that do not have children - by choice or not - do not need marriage. 

Since the institution is designed for raising children then it seems logical that there is no need for infertile couples to be married.  Romney wants to ban same sex marriage and marriage for the infertile or willfully childless.

Are you a man of your word, Mitt?  Do you have ANY integrity? 

What is your position today?  Which side of your mouth do you speak out of on Fridays?

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by: Patrick @ Thu Jun 07, 2007 at 18:53:49 PM CDT

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