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Obama addresses black homophobia and HIV/AIDS at presidential forum

by: Pam Spaulding

Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 07:15:00 AM EDT



Click here for the Media Bloggers Association feed of event coverage.

At last night's presidential forum, many issues were touched upon that deserved the spotlight, including reform of the criminal justice system and educational opportunities and the achievement gap, but one small statement by Barack Obama broke ground in the debates.

On a question about the scourge of HIV/AIDS and its disproportionate impact on young black people -- black teens represent 17% of the population by make up 69% of teenagers diagnosed with HIV/AIDS, Barack Obama took on the issue of homophobia in the black community.

He brought it out of the closet in front of the mostly black audience there at Howard and for those watching at home.

One of the things we've got to overcome is a stigma that still exists in our communities. We don't talk about this. We don't talk about it in schools. Sometimes we don't talk about it in churches. It has been an aspect sometimes of our homophobia that we don't address this issue as clearly as it needs to be.
This was long overdue -- a presidential candidate calling out the silence that is killing people -- black women are 25 times as likely to be infected with HIV than white women, as Hillary Clinton noted. If the situations were reversed it would be a national health and education emergency commanding the attention of the MSM and government. But that is not the case -- there is a pitiful silence on too many levels -- but not last night.

Obama's short, but powerful statement on black homophobia is one that none of the other candidates mentioned. Is this a surprise? No -- addressing the responsibility of the black community to open its eyes regarding its reticence to take on an internal bias that has allowed HIV/AIDS to ravage it touches the third rail of race. The candidates fear perceptions of a paternalistic white finger being waved at the community will result in blowback from black voters.

I'm grateful that there was a black man up on that stage to broach the subject of homophobia in this community, but the fear of the other pols needs to be overcome, all bridges need to be crossed when the statistics are this stark and horrifying.

I want to add that there are people of faith in the black community trying to address this issue, and it's an uphill battle at times. Many gathered earlier this year at the  National Black Justice Coalition's Second Annual Black Church Summit, which I also live blogged. During a debate with homophobe Bishop Harry Jackson, Bishop Yvette Flunder  spoke the truth about the ignorance coursing through elements of the religious black community regarding homosexuality that results in stigmatization and silence -- the fuel for the spread of HIV/AIDS. From my liveblog (audio is here):

He [Jackson] didn't waste much time bringing up pedophilia in the context of sexual immorality and homosexual expression. Sigh. He wants people to define themselves as Christians first, gays and lesbians second.

...If we are going to understand SGL [same-gender-loving] people, Flunder continued, we need more people like Jackson to sit down with gays and lesbians to actually learn what their lives are like. We cannot address sexual immorality for gays only, as straight people who are pious are committing adultery and immorality themselves. Hypersexuality being attached to gay people only is tragic and wrongheaded. Conflating pedophilia and homosexuality, she said, struck a nerve with her, she works with many abused children, and none in the group she counsels was molested by a gay person. She managed to launch a mentoring program involving adult, moral gay people working with young people -- and it proved the naysayers wrong. Those involved are responsible contributors and the county that took the effort to sponsor it, wants to replicate it.

See the Rev. Dr. Michael Eric Dyson (who was at the forum last night in support of Obama) who discussed the white anti-gay evangelical movement's almost unchecked effort to take advantage of the homophobia in the black church. From the NBJC Church Summit:

Perhaps Obama's small very public foray last night into breaking the silence about the impact of black homophobia on the spread of HIV will spur more desperately needed discussion at the national level. One can hope.

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So "Homophobia" was mentioned.  It could have a double meaning to that crowd and either be positive or negative.  That's like saying the word "racism" was mentioned before the Civil Rights Act to a group of white South Carolina Southern Baptists.
(One of the things we've got to overcome is a stigma that still exists in our communities. We don't talk about this. We don't talk about it in schools. Sometimes we don't talk about it in churches. It has been an aspect sometimes of our homophobia that we don't address this issue as clearly as it needs to be.)

Make alot of noise. Life is short.

Even Saying the Word is Good
I heard him say "homophobia" loud and clear and thought "Glad to finally hear this in a debate."

Obama was being homophobic
with this remark he made about getting tested, making it perfectly clear he was not gay.
From the New York Times

Senator Joseph Biden of Delaware announced to the audience that he ? and Mr. Obama ? had been tested for HIV, the virus that caused AIDS: Mr. Obama peered quizzically at Mr. Biden as he shared this information.

?I got tested for AIDS, I know Barack got tested for AIDS,? he said. ?There?s no shame in being tested for AIDS. It?s an important thing.?

When it was Mr. Obama?s turn to talk he clarified what Mr. Biden referred to. ?Tavis, Tavis, Tavis, I just got to make clear ? I got tested with Michelle,? referring to a test with his wife, Michelle, during a visit last summer to Kenya to highlight the medical necessity for wide-spread testing in order to slow the spread of the disease.

?I don?t want any confusion here about what?s going on,? he said with a grin.

Mr. Biden responded: ?And I got tested to save my life, because I had 13 pints of blood transfusion.?

Make alot of noise. Life is short.


[ Parent ]
That exchange outweighs his remarks about homophobia
because it reflects the deeply ingrained homophobia that LGBT black people have had to live with all of our lives. If there is one thing I know it is black homophobia and that was a prime example. It reminded me of the Denzel Washington character in Philadelphia or the real-life Denzel when he advised Will Smith not to kiss a man in Six Degrees of Separation because black people would never accept it.

The statement about homophobia came from his head, where as that exchange represented his visceral reaction to homosexuality. I think we got to peer through a window to his soul and it is not very pretty. Coming at a time when doctors are urging routine HIV testing, especially of black people, it sends exactly the wrong message. I am really, really disappointed in Obama.


[ Parent ]
I didn't read it that way.
My first thought on reading Obama's response was that he wanted to be clear that Michelle knew, and that he wasn't getting tested behind her back, with the implication that he's cheating on her.

I thought it was a really strange thing for Biden to have said, and it reminded me of his comment a few months ago when he talked about how Obama was "articulate and clean". He seems to have a weird, almost fetishistic obsession with Obama that I find a little creepy.


[ Parent ]
Listen to the audience reaction.
Even if Obama was initially referring to infidelity, when you?re speaking about AIDS in the black community, that immediately brings to mind the "down-low" issue. The homophobia in the audience?s laughter was almost palpable. In any case the whole point is to encourage people to be tested, even if they don?t believe they have any reason to be.

I?m listening to the tape right now on Michelangelo Signorile?s show and it was when Biden said the Obama got tested that the audience breaks out in nervous laughter and that?s when Obama jumped in. Now someone just called in and said that the audience was reacting to the inference that Biden and Obama got tested together and Obama wanted to make clear he got tested with his wife and not with Biden. In retrospect, listening to the tape again, that very well may have been the case. But isn?t that too a little homophobic (although a lot less offensive than what I originally thought)?

In the end, no matter what his intentions, he may have ended up undermining the original point about removing the stigma of being tested. Still, the more I hear the exchange played the more I think you're reaction may have been correct, although I still hear some homophobia in the audience reaction.


[ Parent ]
I was glad to see AIDS prevention as one of the questions
Thanks Pam for covering this event'

Hillary's comment caused an ovation
Hillary mentioning if it was White Women with the rate of death caused by AIDS as minority women, there would be NATIONAL OUTRAGE....was very well stated, and caused the ONLY spontaneous standing ovation.

well said
But she left out - white men.

Make alot of noise. Life is short.

[ Parent ]
white STRAIGHT men
white STRAIGHT men....cuz I can testify when it was JUST white queer men.............they left us to die in the STRRETS!

[ Parent ]
STREETS
see the Band Played On, Borrowed Time, Angels in America,and Longtime Companion

I know
Thanks to ACT UP we got the government to take action and provide funding for HIV AIDS drugs.  We seem to be sadly lacking in activism today on publically confronting the candidates on same-sex marrige, hate crimes, ect..  Just mentioning "homophobia" is not enough, especially when it is not directly aimed at equal rights.

Make alot of noise. Life is short.

[ Parent ]
Exactly
I remember when ACT-UP demonstrated against Bill Clinton for not doing enough on AIDS, both before and after his election. I wish there was a radical group like that to confront these candidates on their opposition to same-sex marriage.

[ Parent ]
I am alive because of the drugs fast forwarded through Clinton years
As are most of the surviving People with AIDS. While I'm not a big Clinton fan on many issues, I will give him credit for the drugs now saving lives. Under Bush only one drug I know of, was developed in 6 years, compared to dozens and dozens of drugs developed under Bill Clinton.

PWAS and LGBT people should be calling Bush and the CDC on the carpet over their TOTAL abandonment of new HIV/AIDS drugs, and gutting 1/3rd of Ryan White Funds for KNOW NOTHING faith-based organizations with ZERO medical, scientific, or pandemic credentials.


here is a good time line into 2001 of AIDS drugs and treatments
You begin to see the DARK F*CKIN' AGES of Bush administration

"As of June 2000: 753,907 AIDS cases have been reported in the US, 438,796 people have died . . . 64,373 of them were women.

Editorial note: April 2001: At this writing, the AIDS rates presented above are the latest statistics available from the CDC. The preceding article was meant to give Women Alive readers an idea of the struggles and suffering that it has taken to get us to this point. It is by far not a complete history of the epidemic, and is only meant to encourage women to learn more.

Many of us who were diagnosed in recent years have no idea of the sacrifices it took by many brave activists and PWA's {most of whom were gay and lesbian (including people of color)} to have the services and treatments that are available to us today. HOPWA housing and other such benefits "didn't just happen" because the government or the general public wanted to be "nice" to us, quite the contrary; they were fought for by many who didn't live long enough to see their work come to fruition.

What many of us in the HIV community are witnessing in recent months is scary. So far in the year 2001, there has been a resurgence of AIDS related deaths. Many long-time survivors of AIDS, like Stephen Gendin, and our own Elsa Smith, have lost the battle. Many of them were taken quite suddenly. Pancreatitis, liver failure, Hepatitis C, are just a few of the complications. The Bush administration has already begun to take stabs at our programs, and it is only going to get worse. So for us, the fight is still very real (you can join in at any time). Nothing is promised to any of us, and the battle is not over. Everything that was fought for and won, for over 20 years now, can be taken away in 2 minutes with a presidential signature. AIDS is still a crisis, period. It is up to us to carry the torch into the next 20 years."
  http://www.aegis.com...


Candidate
I am finally starting to zero in on a possible candidate I can support and its Obama.  I was impressed by the speach he gave a week ago about the fundies and religion in general.

I still think there is a Clinton/Obama alliance struck already
I think the second debate when it was expected Obama would have to start chipping away at Hillary....he didn't, and she didn't focus any barbs his way either.
I believe the upper eshelons of democrats including Bill Clinton have struck a deal with Obama. Obama will be Clinton's VP for 8 years, and then with 8 years of Presidential experience (his one shortfall) and being an incumbant (nearly impossible to unseat or defeat), then another 8 years of Obama presidency. Obama is a young politician and could easily wait the 8 years, Clinton would get a HUGE boost of excitement and likablity forging a Clinton/Obama ticket. No repig would have a chance against this alliance. The idea of the first woman president and first Black VP would have immediate Historic appeal.

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