Seeing The Base up close at the IHOP

Why would people who voted for Bush...

...have any faith in their ability to finger a qualified candidate?  If I were responsible, in part by voting for Bush, for the doubling of the national debt, the shitting on the Constitution, the legalization of torture. the entanglement in Iraq, the loss of NOLA as a major city, etc., I'd be considering ways to prevent repeating my monstrous error.

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by: Holly Capote @ Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 23:31:34 PM CDT

Simple

Holly, if you voted for Bush, then you do not acknowledge any of the disasters you mentioned, let alone your responsibility for them.

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by: Jim @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 00:10:58 AM CDT

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Sadly true.

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by: Holly Capote @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 06:00:47 AM CDT

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Never admit failure

That's their motto.  Even those "friends" of mine who were here, the one with the mom that was against us marrying, admitted that they are sorry they ever voted for Bush.  But I'd be willing to bet they'll vote Republican in '08 and they're logic won't go any further than Thompson or whoever is the candidate is handsome and "looks like a leader."

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by: callie @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 10:55:39 AM CDT

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That's right, Callie.

They think, I made a mistake, but they revert to that mistake, selecting another manly man who promises to protect them, whatever the cost. 

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by: Holly Capote @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 11:19:57 AM CDT

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Take that line further

Not to let Republicans off the hook for anything you mention - they are on the hook and belong there.  They aren't alone, though.

Democrats voted long ago to give Bush permission to invade and occupy Iraq.  They supported (and some still do) the Patriot Act.  The Big Bush tax cuts weren't impeded by Democrats.

The Dems could have filibustered Supreme Court nominations.

The Dems could have harpooned funding for the war.

There are other examples, but you get my drift.

Democrats are not the salvation.  

 

 

 

 

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by: Patrick @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 12:50:34 PM CDT

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Those are good points, Patrick. Many Dems have enabled W.

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by: Holly Capote @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 13:31:59 PM CDT

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Exactly

They don't know or they don't care or they don't believe.

The return of the Know Nothings. 

Or maybe just the Booboisie. 

 

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 10:24:10 AM CDT

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Fred Thompson is that Man I seen on TeeVee Show, un huh...

Some folks lack sophistication but yet cast a vote that can affect us all.

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by: RogernDC @ Sat Jul 21, 2007 at 23:50:15 PM CDT

I only hope I live long enough...

...to see this man suffer for all the evil he has done to the middle class.

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If karma is a bitch, I want to be front and center when she comes a calling.

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by: chandler in hollywood @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 00:54:12 AM CDT

Kill Faux News

I agree, "the base" are a bunch of fucking idiots.  They have crippled this country and will eventually destroy it if something is not done soon.  Today I happened to come across www.foxattacks.com.  I read some of the comments and could not believe my eyes.  I could not believe how many Americans were actually sticking up for Fox News.  WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?  Fox News must be killed.  It has sedated 51% of this country.  After the Fox vs. Kdos incident I now see that our only why to save this country is through a Revolution. 

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by: dstavro @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 01:32:52 AM CDT

spelling

Kdos = Dkos and why = way

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by: dstavro @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 01:35:26 AM CDT

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PRO-CHOICE?

These people really are retards. AND he's from the liberral Hollywood elite, so he'll be soft on gays et al, no matter what he says publically. That man's been chatting with his make-up artist for an hour a day for the last twenty years.

 

SO like the base to confuse a man with the character he played on TV. 

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by: steerpike66 @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 05:05:58 AM CDT

reagan

unfortunately, we had Reagan, who proved that a hollywooder isn't necessarily going to be a Friend to Gays.  and don't think for a moment that whoever the repub mon is, theywon't invoke the godly reagan every minute of every hour of every campaign speech.

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by: Lurleen @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 12:10:32 PM CDT

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This is why we need 2 Americas:

the red one, which is forever waging war, borrowing money from the Chinese to do so, and building higher and higher walls around it.

And the blue one, which believes in diplomacy, the Constitution, freedom, and the pursuit of happiness for all citizens.

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by: Holly Capote @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 12:15:48 PM CDT

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Absolutely: The Split

I absolutely agree, and preparation for the split has been going on for a long time.

For the last hundred years, at least, Southerners of an open-minded bent have been moving north. And at least since 1980, Northerners of a venal bent have been moving south. There?s been a lot of “voting with your feet” going on. This is one reason the country has become so geographically polarized.

So, this is how it works: We give everyone two years to make up her mind to move or stay where she is. Those in the North who pine for a truly fascist nation can move to the South; those in the South who take pleasure in freedom can move to the North. Persons too poor to move, but want to, get financial assistance. After two years, the nation splits, and the South can knock itself out, becoming as fascist as it ever wanted to be.

The world would cheer this split because the U.S. would then be less powerful. Not only would the nation be cut in half, but the more venal part would be the less economically dynamic part. The S.U.S. (Southern United States) would devote much of its resources to weapons and soldiers and technology to keep the populace in line. Most creative people would have already fled.

The N.U.S., on the other hand, would become more like a European country.

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by: Jim @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 13:36:00 PM CDT

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the base

(in arabic known as al quaeda) is a pack of drooling robotards. No Bush voter deserves even the right to vote, nor even express an opinion. Their thinking license has been revoked. as I remind my parents frequently (who were Bush supporters).

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by: tim @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 08:04:49 AM CDT

Pam's first mistake....

You went into an IHOP. 

Just saying.  Russ, isn't their a Bill Hicks bit about the waitress who says "what you readin for?"

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by: dan l @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 08:33:22 AM CDT

the IHOP here is OK

The Durham IHOP has a diverse clientele, Dan. The problem this time around is we went at a time of the day we normally haven't. It definitely had a different "flavor" at 9PM on this Saturday night, lol.

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 10:09:31 AM CDT

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Pam

You could write a song to the tune of "The Eyes of Texas":

"The Eyes of IHOP are Upon You!" 

Or not. 

 

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 10:22:34 AM CDT

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I think...

that I know which IHOP you're talking about.  I've been there...and I've definitely noticed an odd  crowd at times.

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by: melissa @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 19:25:59 PM CDT

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w/all due respect ....

... IHOP is just SO Un-Gay.  Ditto Denny's.  I will NOT eat at Denny's unless it's the only lit sign on the side of a freeway for the next 100 miles.  When you walk into a Denny's, you always know exactly what you're going to get: a perfectly mediocre meal - not terrible, not really all that good, and NEVER great - that has been sauteed in grease.  IHOP is about the same, except maybe w/a little less grease.

My partner, OTOH, loves Denny's and will eat there at the drop of a hat, even though we live in Vegas and have many better choices at that price point.  I have long despaired of breaking him of this affection.

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by: ExHack @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 20:25:01 PM CDT

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Ha!

You live in a town with Robuchon's, and your man wants to eat at Denny's. I've heard it all. It's time for a treat, don't you think?

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by: TJ McFisty @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 20:50:06 PM CDT

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uhhhh ....

I don't want to eat at Denny's.  HE wants to eat at Denny's.

Unfortunately, we are poor.  Robuchon is a bit out of our food budget for, mmmm, about the next 3 years.  However, there are tons of video poker bars that sell good cheap eats partially subsidized by gaming.  We tend to go for those instead of Denny's.

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by: ExHack @ Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 23:02:20 PM CDT

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Guerilla Pam!

Pam was clearly  functioning as a member of a small strike force associate with the Gay Guerilla movement, gays who quietly invade public spaces to make a gay statement:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/22/fashion/22guerilla.html?_r=1&ref=fashion&oref=slogin 

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 17:17:27 PM CDT

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IHOP

The name always makes me chuckle becasue of HOP: Homos in Parade, a phrase from my New York days.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 08:56:05 AM CDT

sp.

Homos On Parade, sorry.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 10:21:07 AM CDT

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gaydar

Tell me, Pam, were you two sitting next to each other like lovers, or across from each other like friends? The former might have activated their gaydar.

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by: Bill Ware @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 18:06:48 PM CDT

across

We always sit across from each other so we can be animated when talking to one another. I think we activate gaydar all the time. For some reason all it takes is one trip to a restaurant for people to remember us the next time. I'm not sure what the deal is, but it happens so often it's kind of funny.

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 20:53:14 PM CDT

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Stuff like this makes me think that we try way to hard...

I mean, instead of putting up candidates who work really hard to know the issues, take a stand, make plans for the future, know their base, are familiar with foreign affairs...

 Why don't we just put up any stooge who has our views, but who has that certain "something?" We shouldn't be shopping for the candidate with the right experience and the right ideas.  Hell, let's just stop all pretense of this being a election based on something meaningful, and make it an effin' beauty contest. 

 We get spoiled being on the intertubes interacting with people who know what's going on.  We start to believe that the world is this way - where people actually read.

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by: Hype-Jersey @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 18:42:13 PM CDT

We could text-message in our next president

It could be like American Idol. Cheney could be the mean judge.

<3 Sam

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by: Samie D @ Sun Jul 22, 2007 at 23:40:58 PM CDT

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Random

I think they dropped in from Hillsborough. They can't be from Durham. Or Chapel Hill-Carrboro. Or Raleigh-Apex-Cary. Definitely Hillsborough. When we would play Orange High in high school, our volleyball coach would lecture us about not making fun of the tractors.

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by: emily2 @ Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 07:26:26 AM CDT

I don't know...

that they couldn't be from Durham.  I live there and on a regular basis, I stop by the gas station and there is a tractor at the pump next to mine.  I love it, but it always cracks me up.  Obviously I don't live downtown.

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by: melissa @ Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 18:01:09 PM CDT

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Please

Don’t be such a snob. Farming is a perfectly respectable profession. Without any farmers, you might have a harder time feeding yourself. And not all farmers are venal Bush-voters.

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by: Jim @ Mon Jul 23, 2007 at 23:41:37 PM CDT

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