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Media Matters: Tucker Carlson says he assaulted man who made pass at him in restroom

by: Pam Spaulding

Wed Aug 29, 2007 at 13:30:00 PM EDT


[UPDATE: See below. Carlson responded to Media Matters, but his story has changed. Now he says he and his friend merely "held" the man who came on to him as opposed to his macho claim on the air that he "grabbed him, and ... hit him against the stall with his head."]

The MSNBC host has serious masculinity issues. He  said that Obama "seems like kind of a wuss" and "It makes you wonder what he won't compromise of himself. Are we going to have mani/pedi parties next?" because the presidential candidate belongs to a book club.  More recently he went batsh*t on the air over a discussion about transgender issues when he fixated on gender reassignment surgery and the thought of his "boys" being removed.

Now he pitches a fit while discussing Larry Craig, relating to an incident he experienced in a public restroom. (Media Matters, which has video):

"Having sex in a public men's room is outrageous. It's also really common. I've been bothered in men's rooms." Carlson continued, "I've been bothered in Georgetown Park," in Washington, D.C., "when I was in high school." When Abrams asked how Carlson responded to being "bothered," Carlson asserted, "I went back with someone I knew and grabbed the guy by the -- you know, and grabbed him, and ... hit him against the stall with his head, actually."
As I've noted before, Tucker has to deal with Freepers continually questioning his masculinity and sexual orientation; I guess it leaves him so wound up about his manhood that he can't simply tell the bathroom perv he's not interested or report the guy to the cops. Think about it -- he came back with a friend to bash the guy. Nice.

***

UPDATE: Tucker responded to Media Matters:

Let me be clear about an incident I referred to on MSNBC last night: In the mid-1980s, while I was a high school student, a man physically grabbed me in a men's room in Washington, DC. I yelled, pulled away from him and ran out of the room. Twenty-five minutes later, a friend of mine and I returned to the men's room. The man was still there, presumably waiting to do to someone else what he had done to me. My friend and I seized the man and held him until a security guard arrived.

Several bloggers have characterized this is a sort of gay bashing. That's absurd, and an insult to anybody who has fought back against an unsolicited sexual attack. I wasn't angry with the man because he was gay. I was angry because he assaulted me.
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Gay basher
So Carlson is admitting to being a gay basher? And he can't plead "gay panic" since he actually left the washroom and came back with a buddy to back him up. Wassa matter, Carlson? Not man enough to take on a sissy by yourself?

Seriously, though, how does a so-called "respectable" journalist admit on national television to committing a hate crime, and then laugh about it?

Humm....
Steph, you beat me to it.
[ Parent ]
Tucker the Basher
And he can't plead "gay panic" since he actually left the washroom and came back with a buddy to back him up. Wassa matter, Carlson? Not man enough to take on a sissy by yourself?

Probably was afraid that he would mess up his hair or screw up that stupid bow tie he wears. 

What would have been great is if the "queer" he beat up was a plainclothes cop.  That would have been brilliant!

[ Parent ]
Need extra quotes
around "journalist".

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
[ Parent ]
We should all be writing MSNBC about this

I actually saw the MSNBC Live show where Tucker Carlson said this. 

On the MSNBC page for Tucker's show, there's an e-address to write the show's producers: Tucker@msnbc.com.  I know I'm going to be writing them, asking why MSNBC thinks it's okay for them to have a host who belives his commission of a hate crime is funny.

-----
~~Autumn~~

As if there were safety in stupidity alone.
--Henry David Thoreau

[ Parent ]
All Three of them
Tucker, Joe Scarborough, and Dan Abrams lauged with the right-wing hack.  All three of them need to be brought to the attention of MSNBC.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
[ Parent ]
I wish women would mace any unattractive man that make a pass at them
...but they have to put up with the little bowtied conservative pricks all the time.
For someone so anti-gay----

--why did he grab the guy by the "you know"? Why come into any manual contact with his genitals?  Sounds pretty murky to me, aside from his having to brag about how tough he was in high school.  Well, not so touch, because he had to go get back-up.  What's next?  Tucky-wucky boasting about how often he got laid and how many beers he could down without puking?

Man, this Craig affair is exposing pathology, denial, and just plain fuckery all over the place. 



"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report
Good point
Most straight men would be fairly unwilling to handle another man's penis in any way at all.Seems like Tucker was reaching for what he subconciously wanted (his secret bow-tie wearing self) and then the defense mechanism kicked in; 'WOO WOO DANGER, WILL ROBINSON HOMO DANGER, PANIC STATIONS!
[ Parent ]
I've got the video

Posted on my blog.

I'm in the middle of documenting LGBT hate crimes, and I gotta say Tucker fits the profile. He returned to the scene, with reinforcements, and assaulted the guy....after he'd already walked away.



TerranceDC
http://www.republicoft.com
The best were the HOWLS of laughter
Scrborrough and Abrams busted a gut behind Tucker's story

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner
[ Parent ]
Slightly OT
It certainly shows the vacuousness of television journalism that throughout that entire conversation they kept showing B-roll shots of a toilette(!)

Is that the actual washroom where Craig was arrested? Did they have the satellite truck parked outside to beam that shot to the studio? Or are they just showing generic shots in case anyone in their audience doesn't know what a public washroom looks like?

[ Parent ]
Perfect story

For the MSM, it involves no thought, no research, no investigaion, just trot out some "expert" and run the B-roll.

It's a slightly déclassé verison of a Trial Story where they plunk a nitwit down in front of a courthouse somewhere to blather.

It all reminds me of the CNN idiot who intoned, as Air Force One landed, "something imminent is about to happen."

 



"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report
[ Parent ]
LOL!
"something imminent is about to happen."

Thanks, Lev, you made my night.

I guess, unlike print journalists, TV anchordroids don't have to take English classes.

[ Parent ]
The REAL STORY
Tucker's recollection of the Halcion Days when his naivete was brutally ripped from his life.

It was one of those glorious rare Autumn evenings exactly 20 years ago, when a young man is simply driven to linger in Georgetown Park's restroom. This gentleman, well you could hardly call him a gentleman, he was wearing a white cheap t-shirt AFTER Labor Day.
He had the thugish audacity to put his tapping foot under the stall divider, well I can tell you I ran and ran as if the devil himself was chasing me, and I had on my brand new Weejuns, and developed a dreadful blister on my pristine dancing feet. Fortunately the man Daddy hired for my Cha Cha Lessons was also lingering in the Park, and I pleaded my rightous anger and he left his secluded spot under the bridge, and we marched back to that Nasty Naughty Bad Boy Bathroom. I grabbed my assailant by his inappropriate t-shirt which clung to his manly torso, and slammed, I tell you slammed that piece of man eye-candy up against the wall, and eloquently gave him a very large piece of my mind. My Cha Cha coach saved my life that night and he insisted on walking me safely back to Daddy's mansion.
I don't know what would have become of my cherry little tushie if that coach wasn't so brave and in touch with my plight.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner
what a liar

that never happened. 

made a pass at him?  how?  cops took the guy away?  what, they came in right after carlson had just assaulted him?  this was just an opportunity for carlson to 1) emphasize how irresitably hot he must be to all gay men, and 2) emphasize how repulsed he is by these "advances" and 3) emphasize how manly he is.

as for his assertion that this is commonplace and needs to be denounced by the gay community, it's not and it is.  i'm gay, my boyfriend is gay, and we have gay friends.  public cruising is pretty much a mystery to all of us.  we don't know the signs, we don't know how to spot a potential hook-up, and we don't know where these places are. 

public sex for the hetero population seems to be a non-issue for this MSNBC panel. 



The gays stole my lunch money
Homophobia in the media

I'm beginning to see and hear MSM stories that make it sound like public toilets are a major way in which gay men meet and have sex.  Instead of the focus being on a subset of men who find this exciting/dangerous or are driven to it because they're closeted, we're all being tarred with this brush.

 



"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report
[ Parent ]
I agree
He is trying to make himself attractive. 

Make alot of noise. Life is short.
[ Parent ]
Frilly-shirted disco queen
DICKy-bow wearing, weasel-endowed, made-up, becoiffed, bleached-toothed, ice-skater, panty-waste-of-space.
[ Parent ]
who's perving who?
Phone camera bearig queers, next time you see a het couple showing their breasts an rolling on their beach blankets, or humping in a hotel hot tub, snap a pic.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner
And please...
...send it to me for further review.

"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson
[ Parent ]
Too much
Every time you write something, even the smallest little thing, I want to spray coffee all over my screen.  So I guess it's a good thing I don't drink coffee.

Thanks for the laugh.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

[ Parent ]
Well, now we know
Why Tucker is afrad of Hate Crime Legislation... 

The trollish sounding blogger formerly known as BURNSEY
Crybabies...wahhhh

As I read your site, you are nothing but a bunch of 'haters'

You have nothing positive to say, absolutely no "Tolerance" for people who do not think, act, and speak like you do, it never ceases to amaze me how intolerant the left is of America, American values and American ideals.

Just because you let your urges rule every waking moment of your life, don't trash people who actually can control themselves...


food for troll

it's french.  you'll love it. 

Clafouti
serves 6-8

1 1/4 cups milk
1/3 cup sugar
3 eggs
1 Tablespoon vanilla
1/8 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup flour
3 cups cherries, pitted
1/3 cup sugar
powdered sugar

In a blender blend the milk, sugar, eggs, vanilla, salt and flour. Pour a 1/4 inch layer of the batter in a buttered 7 or 8 cup lightly buttered fireproof baking dish. Place in the oven until a film of batter sets in the pan. Remove from the heat and spread the cherries over the batter. Sprinkle on the 1/3 cup of sugar. Pour on the rest of the batter. Bake at 350 degrees for about for about 45 minutes to an hour. The clafouti is done when puffed and brown and and a knife plunged in the center comes out clean. Sprinkle with powdered sugar, serve warm.



The gays stole my lunch money
[ Parent ]
Sounds yummy!
Not lo-cal, though.  I need to save this for a special occasion.
[ Parent ]
zorya, it's SO good

puffed up on the edges, custardy in the center, and sometimes i use other fruits such as blackberries or peaches.  i was seriously generous enough to give this troll the best clafouti recipe i have ever come across--it's the one julia child used. see how nice i am?

as for the calories, it's not really so bad--milk, eggs, fruit.....i eat it for breakfast sometimes! 



The gays stole my lunch money
[ Parent ]
did you get the memo?

don't trash people who actually can control themselves...

 

dear, we are trashing people who *can't* control themselves, as you can plainly see from all of the front page. where have you been!?


[ Parent ]
Are you saying
that you hate this blog?  I had trouble telling if that was the case by all the positive comments that you made.  By the way, if you mean the historical American ideals like slavery, keeping women as second class citizens, making sure the the corporations are not accountable to anyone, and the rich don't pay their fair share of taxes you are right again.  We'd rather leave that to the uptighty righties.  They do it so well.
Next time though can you please control your urge to create an account for the sole purpose of showing us how profoundly superior you are to the rest of us?  If not, can you at least try to control your urge to preach Fox mantras?  You left out the part about blaming the MSM, shame on you.

My America includes LGBT families.
[ Parent ]
shame

You're absolutely right. It's just crazy to trash people who can actually control themselves. I take back every mean thing I've ever said about the five or six Senators who have not been caught using public toilets as a $20 all you can eat buffet.

(damn, that was a pretty good line)


[ Parent ]
At least Pam lets you pussies post a few screeds
before you get banned. The miserable weaklings at FreeRepublic.net won't let us put forward one word of response; they'd too scared of what would happen if their mongoloid circle-jerk was open to the rational and the articulate.
[ Parent ]
the trap door...
will open soon if this bonehead reappears.
[ Parent ]
Thank you sir for your brilliant analysis

It was wrong of us, so wrong, to trash Larry Craig, who as you point out, does control his urges.  Surely that's what you meant?

He only trolls for men in public toilets, and stays away from other meetings grounds for men seeking men: parks, bars, cruises, Log Cabin Republican meetings.  

This shows admirable restraint, insight, forethought (maybe even foreskin, who knows?), and considerable respect for his wife and family.

He's the best kind of American.

Thank you for the salutory reminder, and we will all step into line now.  Dare I say we'll straighten up and fly right? 



"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report
[ Parent ]
it ain't just the gays
Funny, the only public sex I've come across was between opposite sex. This happened frequently when I was in the hospitality industry and has happened a LOT at "clubs."
Yes!
A good friend says she has far more been bothered by straight sex acts of all kinds in public, and that's reporting to you LIVE and HAPPENING NOW from mid-Michigan.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report
[ Parent ]
TUCKER T-shirts

ll proceeds can go to AIDS hospices

 

      http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/TuckerPERVPatrol.jpg



"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner
Does the statute of limitations apply...
...to crimes you admit, of your own free will, to committing?  What about crimes that you fabricate to make yourself look like a big man?
Ahh, That is what his drive is,
  He wants to go to prison, so he can have it forced on him, so he can continue to deny his true passion.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.
[ Parent ]
To Straight America

You want to be outraged over restroom sex?  Okay, then please stop your sniggering, chuckling, wink wink about your "Mile High Club" activities.

 

 


One nice thing about being old as dirt
I know what most bloggers parents were doing at Drive In movies every weekend, and a third of you were concieved in the back of a car.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner
Drive-in movies,
  A thing of the past, and I wish they were still around.
Sure the back row or two had alot going on inside the car, but really, who cared? besides the bible bangers.  They went after the drive-ins because it was a place of sin, smoking, drinking, and sex. And few then thought they would succeed.

  And drive-ins gave another reason for foreplay, to fog up the windows so noone could see in.  And when the cops would show up and knock on the window, they knew, and most gave you the time to put clothes back on, so they didn't see anything.

  That is the problem with the right the last two decades, they want to control the sexlives of everyone, hets included.

 

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

[ Parent ]
Youre giving Tucker too much credit
I dont believe for one minute this even happened. He's just making it up, which is even more sick than if it actually did happen.
I don't find Carlson to be particularly butch...
...and I don't find him to be to intelligent, either.  Apparently, he is too stupid to know that the proper way of dealing with his situation was to walk away.  And, if that wasn't successful, knee the attacker in the balls.  The latter will put any male out of commission for a long time.

Query, why did Carlson return, with his sidekick, to the restroom at all?  Did Carlson want to prove a point, using his protector?

You got it!

He was trying to prove a point to:

the guy

his friend

himself

The point being: I'm tough and I'm not gay.

Of course, anyone needing to convince that many people has some serious problems. 



"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report
[ Parent ]
I suspect
that if Carlson is closeted anything, he is closeted trans. That's the sense I get when I see him. I think a closeted gay man could put on a more convincing performance of faux macho.

Also, remember his hysteria about his "boys" in a discussion of transgender employment a few weeks ago? Where he protests the loudest is where he is hiding his biggest secret.

[ Parent ]
How lucky for us trans people if he is one of us.

Um, no.

If TC is trans, he's not helping himself by acting this way.   It will consume him to have to put on a show, and if he wishes to manage to escape self destruction...throwing gasoline on his own fire won't extinguish the flames. 

Jumping into Denial? That river that WILL drown you. 



Hate stops a beating heart.
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