Breaking: Larry Craig may not resign

hooray!

This is exactly what we need, the GOP's dirty laundry out in public day after day.  

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 20:28:49 PM CDT

hee hee!

i was just thinking that i'd heard more than enough about that moron, but you make a great point.  let the stench of dirty repub laundry waft through the land!

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by: Lurleen @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 20:53:21 PM CDT

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Yes, let the fun begin,

  The Values crowd is going to come unglued. We are going to hear them screamng, hopefully loud enough to keep Vitter a household name as well.

  Can you picture, Craig fights the charge and win?

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 21:23:07 PM CDT

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Drip...drip...drip...drip...

I can't see any way for the Repubs. (except possibly Craig, and then only his seat until the next election) to win here.

Such a shame............  :)

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by: oddjob @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 23:28:49 PM CDT

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I do love the puns in your post

seat  and then the drip drip drip

 

:-) 

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 06:02:40 AM CDT

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So suppose Craig isn't in deep denial, and knows he's gay,

and knows which US senators are gay.  He could do a nice job of blackmailing the senate leadership; all he would need to do is threaten to name names on the floor of the senate
 (legislatures cannot be prosecuted for slander on the floor of the senate). 

But my guess is that Craig really is in denial, or else, he's so isolated as a gay man (or bi/married MSM or whatever he is) that he only way he knows how to obtain same-sex sexual gratification is in public restrooms.  No on-line dating or late nights in the bars for him.  So he probably doesn't know who's a 'member of the club.'  If this is true, he may have decided he can at least finish his term, that his enemies don't have proof he's gay (beyond the Minnesota case), and he can tough things out legally.  No fun for the Republicans.  Not necessarily good for gay people either -- I don't think it's so swell if the message of this saga is that 'gay' means furtive, shameful behavior.

Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.

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by: drosophila @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 21:34:51 PM CDT

message of this saga

the message of this saga is, of course, that a homophobic society pressures people into doing sad and pathetic things like living a lie.  we all need to be sure that this message is heard loud and clear.

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by: Lurleen @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 22:05:56 PM CDT

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It's my tinfoil hat paranoia acting up again...

I've been wondering about blackmail myself...something inside me thinks that as long as closeted gay Republicans "vote the right way" they are relatively safe in pursuing their sexuality.

Should there be a problem, well, there could be problems.  If one is caught, all bets are off, and the jackal pack will turn on  you...

In fact, a smart Karl Rove type fellow in the RNC might want a small closetful of homosexual Senators and Representatives...they are guaranteed fodder for blackmail.

 

Hate stops a beating heart.

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by: KarenS @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 22:37:30 PM CDT

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What about Vitter and Stevens?

I would rather be hated for whom I love; than loved for whom I hate.

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by: GordonOKC @ Tue Sep 04, 2007 at 23:43:58 PM CDT

thinking

As I have said, I bet he truly believes he isn't gay. These people are so adept at doublethink, it enters every area of their lives. To have an ongoing, loving, monogamous relationship with a member of the same sex-- that's gay, and it is wrong. A crime against nature. To have totally meaningless and dangerous sex in public toilets with complete strangers-- well, that's not gay. It's a bit like alcoholism I guess. Once in a while you just can't help yourself. It's an unfortunate idiosyncracy, but nothing to get alarmed about since at the end of the day you go home to your wife.

CARING RELATIONSHIP = bad

PATHETIC, DEGRADING, NASTY TOILET SEX = not a problem

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by: drsivana99 @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 00:20:23 AM CDT

Like many GOOPers, he's authoritarian*

How can all this stuff be going on in Craig's head?  The GOOP attracts authoritarian followers, and this is how they function:

"A high [right-wing authoritarian] can have all sorts of illogical, self-contradictory and widely refuted ideas rattling around in various boxes in his brain, and never notice it. . . .

Research reveals that authoritarian followers drive through life under the influence of impaired thinking a lot more than most people do, exhibiting sloppy reasoning, highly compartmentalized beliefs, double standards, hypocrisy, self-blindness, a profound ethnocentrism, and -- to top it all off -- a ferocious dogmatism that makes it unlikely anyone could ever change their minds with evidence or logic."

This is from Bob Altymeyer's study of Authorittarian psychology via Glenn Greenwald's column: http://www.salon.com...

*GOOP: Grand Old Obscurantist Party, plus goop is what they've gotten us into 

 

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 06:09:36 AM CDT

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thinking

As I have said, I bet he truly believes he isn't gay. These people are so adept at doublethink, it enters every area of their lives. To have an ongoing, loving, monogamous relationship with a member of the same sex-- that's gay, and it is wrong. A crime against nature. To have totally meaningless and dangerous sex in public toilets with complete strangers-- well, that's not gay. It's a bit like alcoholism I guess. Once in a while you just can't help yourself. It's an unfortunate idiosyncracy, but nothing to get alarmed about since at the end of the day you go home to your wife.

CARING RELATIONSHIP = bad

PATHETIC, DEGRADING, NASTY TOILET SEX = not a problem

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by: drsivana99 @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 00:22:20 AM CDT

Nicely Said, drsivana99

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by: Jim @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 00:52:40 AM CDT

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Yep.

Well done, drsivana99.

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by: Holly Capote @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 09:32:37 AM CDT

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As quoted above--

--you can't lead the kind of bizarre double life Craig has without

"highly compartmentalized beliefs, double standards, hypocrisy, self-blindness"

It goes deeper than addiction and denial and even shame. 

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 10:18:16 AM CDT

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Could this be a ruse put together by the GOP?

  I mean the timing of the news was in the evening.  Could it be he is suggesting he is going to stand and fight, so the rest of the GOP can stand up and tell him to go, and go now.  To show that the GOP still has Values to the Values crowd?  was just a thought, we will see tomorrow.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 00:22:32 AM CDT

his vote

i think they want to retain him for his vote now that time johnson is back in the senate after 9 month of illness.  johnson is a democrat.  loss of craig and addition of johnson = an almost guaranteed 2 vote lead for the dems on any issue.

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by: Lurleen @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 13:34:13 PM CDT

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H & C, Hannity can't get over Clinton' BJ

  Clinton was impeached for lying, end of story.  But keep bringing up that issue Sean, beat that dead horse as long as you like.  Bill Clinton didn't run on a platform of Family Values like you right wingers do.

  But the best part, and Mike hits it home, the GOP is the group pushing Craig to resign.

  I think Sean, Rush, and the rest, know there is more to come.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 01:19:31 AM CDT

Heh Heh, Heh Ho, Larry Craig back to your Stall in Idaho!

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by: RogernDC @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 06:43:24 AM CDT

Onward Christian Soldiers!

Craig is going head to head (or perhaps toe-to-toe!) with the Republicans on the ethics committee.  He's a-gonna fight:

http://www.nytimes.c...

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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by: Lev Raphael @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 12:32:21 PM CDT

some thoughts

Pam, maybe you have already discussed and I missed it, if so, sorry.

I suggested on my blog that we should be more irked that gays are being targeted in Minn. (povertybarn.com)

 

Yes, I am sure that his fellow intolerants will find a way to yank him since he can be replaced by another repub.  

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by: catherine @ Wed Sep 05, 2007 at 13:24:03 PM CDT