Laugh of the day: Winger blog Red State bans Ron Paul supporters

Irony

The irony! The ability of private industry to use their unfettered economic power to engage in tyranny against any less powerful tan they are is the very heart of Libertarianism. I certainly hope that Paul's supporters applaud this move as a perfect expression of their philosophy!

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by: kathygnome @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 13:21:28 PM CDT

Thank you

Thanks Pam.  That made my afternoon. 

 Because I find it impossible to look away from train wrecks I nosed around Red State for a while.  Their posters are still trying to find that 'family values' candidate they started looking for in the 1980's - still haven't found one.  Wonder what that means??? Hmmm...

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by: larz1969 @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 13:47:57 PM CDT

They're frozen in 1968 or 1972.

And for that reason they will fail, just as the Dems. frozen in the New Deal did.

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by: oddjob @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 22:04:02 PM CDT

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Ha!

I got nothing to add :)

I'm only a click away.

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by: JulieWaters @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 15:11:40 PM CDT

Uh, what?

the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party, the only wing of the Republican Party that acts like Republicans used to act, with care for balanced budgets, real moral values and sensible foreign policy ruled by facts, not Dick Cheney’s fantasies.

Uh, what Libertarians has *he* been talking to? 

Balanced  budgets at the cost of complete collapse of society into a moneyed minority and a slave class, "real moral values" that amount to the vast sum total of "bad things happen only to bad people.  If you're not rich, you deserve it", and a foreign policy ruled by completely different fantasies.

And, as a previous commenter points out, the use of monopolistic power to deny access to the disfavoured is *perfectly* in tune with Libertarian Party philosophy.

 

All that being said, I'm actually with Leon Wolf, on this one:  the Ron Paul sockpuppets add no signal, add a very great deal of noise, and drown out actual interesting discourse by endlessly repeating their debunked yammering and spamming the discourse with their fantasies.  Keeping them around is like endlessly needing to explain the same basic facts over and over to an unending stream of mass-produced identical Creationists when you're discussing biology.  Not only is it pointless and distracting, but it's fruitless, because they're SPAMMERS and SOCKPUPPETS.  They're not interested in listening to anything you say.  They're only interested in repeating their message over and over and over again as many times as possible.

Banning them is the only way to have a conversation, regardless of what topic they're weighing in on. 

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by: John @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 16:05:21 PM CDT

Yeah....

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the Ron Paul sockpuppets add no signal, add a very great deal of noise, and drown out actual interesting discourse by endlessly repeating their debunked yammering and spamming the discourse with their fantasies.  Keeping them around is like endlessly needing to explain the same basic facts over and over to an unending stream of mass-produced identical Creationists when you're discussing biology.  Not only is it pointless and distracting, but it's fruitless, because they're SPAMMERS and SOCKPUPPETS.  They're not interested in listening to anything you say.  They're only interested in repeating their message over and over and over again as many times as possible.

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the (feminist, queer, truther, etc) sockpuppets add no signal, add a very great deal of noise, and drown out actual interesting discourse by endlessly repeating their debunked yammering and spamming the discourse with their fantasies.  Keeping them around is like endlessly needing to explain the same basic facts over and over to an unending stream of mass-produced identical Creationists when you're discussing biology.  Not only is it pointless and distracting, but it's fruitless, because they're SPAMMERS and SOCKPUPPETS.  They're not interested in listening to anything you say.  They're only interested in repeating their message over and over and over again as many times as possible.  Ban them from DailyKOS

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Yeah I mean, by your logic, we should just pack up all discourse and say "fuck it".  Pam should ban my ass for representing a 3rd of little L thinking.   Hell yes, I believe in a a balanced budget, a small government, and a military with a big stick that is willing to make vigorous use of afore mentioned big stick, should the need arise.  

 

I'm glad to see that theoretical, albeit radical and 'outside the box' thinking has such an important place in your heart.  

 

 Now granted, I'm no Ron Paul guy.  I'm not even a Ron Paul supporter.  I'd take him over say a Romney or a Thompson, but I'm not going to go out there and become a Pauly. 

 

But still, more troubling is the fact that in the minds of many left learners/right leaning knuckle draggers, the little L wing of the GOP is some sort of annoyance, whereas the vast majority of conservatives (myself included) find ourselves aligned to the libertarian framework, though to more common sense degrees.  

 -I believe in a small government

-I believe in a balanced budget

-I believe in having a big stick and having the willingness to occasionally make use of it.  

-Surprisingly, the way I originally came to having a pro-LGBT bend, was the fact that based on simple libertarian principles, I simply never saw how anybody elses love life mattered to me in the least - let alone how it should matter to a state or federal government.  

 The problem is, though, Paul has become something of a symbol of a 'non-wingnut' conservative, and a plurality of non-rabid libertarian yet non-fundamentalist pyschopath conservatives have taken a liking to Paul.  It is understandable why the Christian Right lunatics beef with Paul supporters - as they represent a certain end to the Christian right's relevance.  But why would you really take issue it?  

 

 

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by: dan l @ Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 18:48:28 PM CDT

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They admitted they are Nazis

Score!

<3 Sam

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by: Samie D @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 16:22:12 PM CDT

Ron Paul!

ROTFL! what else can you say?

 

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by: vanitysmurf @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 17:44:34 PM CDT

Who likes libertarian

One one hand it does smack of cencership. Red State does have a right to moderate their site to their liking. In this case, keeping themselves in a conservative bubble.

Personally, I find libertarians scary. Glenn Reynolds and Megan McArdle are libertarians. They write the most batshit insane stuff. McArdle actually wrote that no Republican presidential candidate is espousing trickle-down economics. That's absolute bullshit.

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by: Michael Hussey @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 19:41:16 PM CDT

Another laugh...

They've got this new cartoon up at Salon that's tailor-made for the Blend.  Check it:

http://www.salon.com/comics/boll/2007/10/25/boll/

 

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by: Ross K. @ Wed Oct 24, 2007 at 21:10:32 PM CDT

Very Cute, Ross. Thanks.

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by: Jim @ Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 00:06:45 AM CDT

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It's His Sandbox...

First of all, "free speech" applies to government, not private people controlling their private property -- including their websites. "Private censorship" is an oxymoron.

Second, with all due respect (and in your case that's a lot of respect), you -- as a liberal blogger -- may not fully appreciate how out of control these Paulbearers (as I call them) have gotten on conservative and nonpartisan websites -- especially YouTube.

They are, almost universally, not engaging in reasoned commenting; they post canned placard slogans that are usually orthogonal to the original blogpost and, occasionally, totally nonsensical.

They are, in other words, spammers.

So, while no fan of RedState am I, I can feel their exasperation.

Cheers...

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by: KipEsquire @ Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 09:51:44 AM CDT

Paul posters are usually troll-like -

they can't post just once or twice, and then just leave it. And they blogswarm. I'd be inclined to ban them too after their first or second stupid post. Paul supporters who don't sound like clones - bring them on - post away.

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by: NancyP @ Thu Oct 25, 2007 at 12:53:15 PM CDT