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A view of American politics across the pond - most influential 100 conservatives and liberals

by: Pam Spaulding

Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 11:00:00 AM EDT


The Daily Telegraph is publishing its list of the 100 most influential conservatives and 100 most influential liberals in America, compiled with the input of its DC correspondents. The Telegraph's criteria:

To qualify for the lists, people have to live and work in the United States. conservatives are people identifiably – though not always self-described – as right of centre. liberals – though the term is an unpopular one in the US, with even Hillary Clinton preferring "progressive" – are those identifiably left of centre.

Although there are many Republicans on the conservative list and many liberals on the Democratic list, not all 200 are aligned with a party. The key to inclusion was the term "influence" – which people do, and will, most affect American politics both in terms of ideas and the enactment of policy.

We have chosen political candidates, pollsters, campaign operatives, members of think tanks, journalists, bloggers, fundraisers, big-money donors and the occasional celebrity.
There are interesting choices, take a look at the top 20. I'll pick a couple of ones further down the food chain to feature, look at who made #89 on the conservative list:

89. SENATOR LARRY CRAIG
Senator for Idaho

 SENATOR LARRY CRAIG
Oh dear. This is one person that Republican leaders just wish would go away. After being caught in a compromising position in a loo stall at Minneapolis airport by an undercover cop during a crackdown on gay cruising, things have gone from bad to farce for Craig.

He tried to make the issue go away by pleading guilty quietly. Then when the news broke he changed his mind but said he would resign from the Senate. The courts have rejected his bid to alter his plea and in another about face he is trying to cling on to his Senate seat. An unseemly ethics scandal Republicans could do without.

  • Top conservatives: 1-20 | 21-40 | 41-60 | 61-80 | 81-100 | Your choices
  • Top liberals: 1-20  | 21-40  | 41-60 | 61-80 | 81-100 | Your choices

    If you want to see a really offensive choice on the "liberal" side, look at this selection --

    95. HAROLD FORD
    Chairman: Democratic Leadership Council

     

    The centrist DLC is much less of a player than during the rise of the New Democrats under Bill Clinton but expect it to come much more to the fore if Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination and needs to attract moderate voters.

    An able congressman, he narrowly lost a bid for a US Senate seat in Tennessee in 2006. The son of a congressman and still only 37, Ford might run against for the Senate next year. Whether he does or not, his future is bright and if Obama fails this time, Ford would be an outside bet for first black US president.

     

    I can't wait to see your comments on the list...
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    A view of American politics across the pond - most influential 100 conservatives and liberals | 16 comments
    Error

    Hey Pam,

    I tried to go see the list of both liberal and conservatives but could only get to an error page. Did we overload the site? I just tried your links.


    fixed
    link problem.
    [ Parent ]
    Top 20 Each Side
    I looked at the Top 20 on each side. Besides disagreeing with their classification of liberals/conservatives, I noted that only 3 (2 lib, 1 con) are Jewish. So much for the conspiracy theorists.
    Without a doubt, the most influential conservative on the planet is
    Rush Limbaugh.  He is a shaper of elections and can get congressional bills defeated with a single broadcast (SCHIP, the Wet Dream Act). Little wonder the left would lock him in his car if they could.
    No!
    Don't do that, his head will swell more than ever.  I think his influence is over rated. Many like me listen to him for the comedic value.  I really don't think most of the "Dittoheads" that call him up are smart enough to vote.  Anyway one of these days the main stream press will get enough courage to expose him on one of this trips to the Carribean with his supply of Viagra.
    [ Parent ]
    On second thought . . .

    Maybe that's the way to do it!  Swell Rush's head so big it explodes like a balloon.  There won't be any mess to clean up because of all of the hot air.  The Jet stream might suffer a bit, though.


    [ Parent ]
    Hate to burst your bubble "Bob"
    but no one outside of the USA either knows nor gives a lying fuck who Rush Limbaugh is.  So I think your "most infuential conservative on the planet" is a pretty stupid and naive statement.  There's a world outside the USA "Bob", get used to it because when your little Republican Empire comes crashing down around your ears soon then you're going to hear more about it, and you might just find the rest of the world is pretty disgusted with the US right now.

    ALLY (ALLIE) (transitive) To connect or form a relation between by similitude, resemblance, friendship, or love.
    [ Parent ]
    Donna Brazile & Schwarzenegger
    Interesting they put Brazile in the top 20.  AFAIK, she's not doing anything active right now, so really she only qualifies for "top 20 POTENTIALLY most influential".

    Putting Schwarzenegger in the list of liberals is an interesting notion.  Can a republican be a liberal?  It's true that he's been great for LGBT legislation (except marriage).  But he also famously wanted to "kick the butts" of vital workers like teachers and nurses.  He still carys water for the GOP, and carries out his GOP cheerleading duties like his Bush support speech in the 2004 GOP convention.  He may be more of an old time repub (social libertarian, fiscal conservative), but top 20 liberal?  Naah.

    Lurleen on Twitter

    Ford is Black?
    How can you tell?
    The conservatives on the list WERE conservative.

    Only half of the "liberals" on the list were liberals.  The other half are moderates at best.  


    The Daily Telegraph is a Tory paper
    Always has been conservative. I like to do what are called in Britain 'Cryptic crosswords' and it always amused me that the ones in the Telegraph are super-easy, almost babyish compared to the ones in the ultra-liberal Guardian; my paper of choice. Stupid Tories.
    "Sir, I perceive you are a vile Whig.

    Why all this childish jealousy of the power of the Crown?"


    [ Parent ]
    Yes I am, ever since the terrible massacre at Peterloo
    Dem those ruffians!
    [ Parent ]
    Hey Steer,
    thanks for having a sense of humor.  I was just jumping at the chance to quote Boswell's Life of Johnson, one of my favorite books; the quotation was just for sport.
    [ Parent ]
    what a wierd list
    why are there more gay men listed as influential conservatives vs none on the liberal?
    Matt Drudge???
    Drudge?? #3??? i think something must have gotten lost in translation on the other side of the Atlantic.  I thought the egg-man had lost some of his sizzle.
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