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The simplicity and beauty of Dog the Bounty Hunter's racist tirade

by: Pam Spaulding

Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 10:00:00 AM EDT


The National Enquirer has an audio clip of bounty hunter and A&E reality TV star Duane "Dog" Chapman going off on a terrific self-immolating racist rant to his son Tucker, who is dating a black woman. He insists that his son stop dating girlfriend Monique Shinnery because it will "deny" Dog the freedom to express his inner Klansman.

Via Sandra Rose, a transcript of the audio:
Duane "Dog" Chapman: I'm not taking the chance on some motherf**ker. I don't care if she's a Mexican, a whore, whatever...it's not because she's black. It’s because we use he word n***er sometimes here.

I'm not going to take a chance ever in life for losing everything I've worked for for 30 years because some f**king n**er heard us say n***er and turned us into the Enquirer magazine. Our career is over. I'm not taking that chance at all, never in life. Never. Never.

If Lyssa [his daughter] was dating a n***er we would all say F*ck You. . .and you know that. If Lyssa brought a black guy home ya da da...it's not that they're black, it's none of that. It's that we use the word n***er. We don't mean you fucking scum n***er without a soul. We don't mean that shit. But America would think we mean that. And we're not taking a chance on losing everything we got over a racial slur because our son goes with a girl like that. I can't do that Tucker. You can't expect Gary, Bonnie, Cecily, all them young kids to [garbled] because 'I'm in love for 7 months' - fuck that! So, I'll help you get another job but you can not work here unless you break up with her and she's out of your life. I can't handle that shit. I got 'em in the parking lot trying to record us. I got that girl saying she's gonna wear a recorder...

Tucker Chapman: I don't even know what to say.
I thought this reaction over at Celebitchy mirrored my initial reaction:
It looks like all of Dog’s concerns could be coming to fruition. A&E has announced that it has suspended production on his reality series until they thoroughly investigate the matter. You know they’re just talking to their lawyers and trying to figure out how to tie up all the loose ends before dropping the guy.

Meanwhile Dog has asked esteemed Reverend Al Sharpton to help him, and has retained the African American pastor that performed his last marriage to speak on his behalf. He has also released a statement saying how sorry he is. The pastor makes sure we know that Dog has gone to black churches “to help inner-city kids” before all this happened. I wonder if he used the N word in front of the little kids, because he pretty much told his son that it just comes out without his knowledge when black people are around. Was he uttering it under his breath repeatedly while he was taking his vows?
How about a big Charlie Brown "ARRRRGGGGGGGH!" Right out of the Michael Richard playbook -- step 1: go hide behind Al Sharpton's apron (and, of course, Sharpton, never one to avoid a camera, is considering meeting with him). Man, this is incredible. Next step will be racial tolerance rehab, right? What a sorry spectacle.

But back to the simplicity and beauty of Dog's diatribe. It is beautiful in that it strips off the nicities, and exposes the third rail of race in a way -- albeit a crude, offensive way -- that can generate honest discussion about the "closeting" of overt racism. For some people -- who knows how many -- this is a sad cultural development. More after the jump.
Pam Spaulding :: The simplicity and beauty of Dog the Bounty Hunter's racist tirade
It's Tucker and Ms. Shinnery's fault that Dog's career might be threatened he believes, because he wants the free license to say nigger when he wants to. Well, no one is stopping him; free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences of social disapproval of that speech. He fully realizes that, which is why he said "Our career is over." (Actually, I don't think that's necessarily true, given that Don Imus will be back on the air after what I suppose the MSM considers the appropriate amount of time in media purgatory for his slurs against the Rutgers women's basketball team.)

It's as if her presence will cause Chapman to blow a gasket because in private, he'd have to watch what he says.  The more pointed question is why does he feel compelled to use "nigger" so casually -- he knows the connotations, the history, the vitriol behind the word. From his statements on the tape, it's clear he isn't using it as a term of endearment (the ludicrous excuse often cited by blacks as justification for tossing the denigrating word around). Dog isn't into self-reflection, it's everyone else that's not with the program.

Dog's dilemma is that he wants to project a public image of tolerance -- he may even have an honest sense that "racism" is wrong.  Remember, as defined in his minds of plenty of good people, when called on their ignorance-based racism, they usually cannot admit to themselves they are racist (see Michael Richards), even though are culture is steeped in it. A racist in their minds wears a Klan sheet, or hangs out in a white supremacist survivalist unit, they are not the person next door. "That couldn't possible be me," they say to soothe themselves.

Clearly burning a cross on someone's lawn or dragging a black man to death behind a pickup truck is not the same as hurling "nigger" at the dinner table, but it comes from the same place -- a dehumanization of an entire group of people in order to preserve a sense of supremacy in a world that is race-mixing out of control. It's clearly unnerving many, and when it "hits home" in this case, Dog didn't hold back.

Stripping away the crudeness of his remarks, you can see the underlying emotion being articulated -- Chapman's disappointment at his son for even contemplating, let alone actually dating, someone outside his race. It's pretty obvious that Tucker Chapman grew up in a home where the word "nigger" and other racial slurs were used casually. Through the profane bluster on the audio,  there is disbelief directed at his son in that moment; he's reallly saying "Didn't you get the message when I used that word in our home for all those years? Did I have to spell it out for you? Stay with your own kind."

I think it's safe to say that many parents who feel the same way about interracial relationships and their children are equally reluctant to spell that sentiment out directly to them. What has spun out of control for parents uncomfortable with the idea of their son or daughter dating outside their race is the ability for subtle (or in Dog's case, not-so-subtle) messages about what is "appropriate" to get through to their kids, because it's hard to project and foster tolerance in public, and then justify the opposite in private. In interpersonal relationships it's quite difficult for people who hold opposing public and private views on race they have to interact with a real person, not a stereotype, and that bores into long-held assumptions and beliefs. It. Does. Not. Compute. They only way to hold on to the security blanket of private racism is to isolate oneself from people in that group that challenge those beliefs, because the conflict is too messy to deal with.

Tucker Chapman ended up on the receiving end of  "It. Does. Not. Compute."

Chapman is unnerved that despite raising his son "right" he didn't get the message -- the culture of increased tolerance that Tucker grew up in allowed him to see Ms. Shinnery as a person he could be in a public romantic relationship with. He has forced his father to admit his inner racist exists -- and Dog's reaction is a fight for its right to exist. The realization that a cultural norm has shifted makes people like Dog long for the "good times" when dropping "nigger" in public or private was acceptable among friends and family. That's progress, in my opinion. This also shows, however, that we are so far away from eradicating racism and bigotry in this culture.

***

Public versus private views on race are kept well-hidden in some ways, and not in others. For instance, in the corporate sphere, no company would run an ad like that one on the left today, an example I blogged about during the Imus debacle. Eventually someone at the company realized this wasn't going to fly as a marketing tool; times had changed, and what was once publicly acceptable, had become unacceptable. David Pilgrim, Professor of Sociology, Ferris State University (and the The Jim Crow Museum), discussed this in  "Commercial Toms."
Rastus was created in 1893 by Emery Mapes, one of the owners of North Dakota's Diamond Milling Company. He wanted a likable image to help sell packages of "breakfast porridge." Maples, a former printer, remembered the image of a Black chef among his stock of old printing blocks. He made a template of the Black chef and named the product Cream of Wheat.

...Rastus, like Aunt Jemima, is more than a company trademark -- he is arguably a cultural icon. Rastus is marketed as a symbol of wholeness and stability. The toothy, well-dressed Black chef happily serves breakfast to a nation. In 1898 Cream of Wheat began advertising in national magazines. These advertisements were often reproduced as posters. Many of those advertisements are, by today's standards, racially insensitive.
Racism was bad for business (something clearly at the forefront of Dog Chapman's mind in his rant), and what is defined as racist or racism is always going to be a moving social target, and that can be unnerving for those who are having a difficulty getting past their internal biases. That's the place where the Bounty Hunter's anger comes from.

We all have prejudices, and some of us are self-aware enough to try to overcome them, others remain blissfully in their own world until it blows up in their face in public embarrassment, and then we have the Dogs of the world, well aware of the impact of private biases surfacing publicly and seeking others to blame for his desire to maintain them.

UPDATE: The AP reports that Dog's son was the one that sold the tape, to reveal his father's racism. As predicted, Chapman's lawyer put out the "he's not a racist" statement.

Hart said his client is not a racist and vowed never to use the word again. "I have never seen anything that suggests he judges people by the color of their skin or racial background or anything but on their character," he said. "Duane lost his composure and made very, very inappropriate remarks, for which he truly regrets."
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It has to become okay for white folks to admit that they're racist.

When Mr. Chapman denies that he's racist, he just comes across as a deluded racist, rather than a forthright racist who might have a chance at reducing his racism.

Nice reporting, Pam.



Dog was a sitting duck.

His attire and demeanor is macho biker redneck. He's a vigilante. His wife has piles of blonde hair and wears a size 50-DDD bra. All the things liberals hate rolled up into one.   Vigilante Dog  shows compassion for some of his quarry, like the episode in which he busted a guy who threatened his girlfriend, but softened when it was revealed the offender was the only caretaker his legless wheelchair bound mother had.

But the kiss of death for Dog?  He and his family sometimes rallied around their quarry and offered a (gasp!) prayer together, that the person's life will be straightened out.  Forget it.  His days were numbered.

When are we going to get away from the nonsense that an uttered word or phrase erases everything else and makes a person bad?  But that condemnation only applies to those who fit a certain template. It is not universally applied.  Trent Lott made a bland reference at a party for Strom Thurmond; he was hammered in the media, but  Robert Byrd said the N word. He's still babbling incoherently on the Senate floor.  John Rocker made comments off the record, apologized repeatedly, and  was drummed out of baseball.  Juian Tavares insulted San Francisco gay "faggots"  when he pitched for the Cubs. No problem; he's still playing.  Tavares' minority status saved him, but Rocker was a white quail hunter from George, so he was toast.

Dog? He had all those marks against him, template-wise. Like Rush Limbaugh on ESPN, who was fired for giving his opinion about sportwriters' racism,  Dog was doomed from the moment he started.  It was just a matter of time.

 



The Shame of It
Bob, you're right. I am so callous. I look out the window of my great house and see the cotton fields filled with stooped workers, all of them white conservatives. After decades of oppression, they still haven’t escaped the boot the keeps them impoverished and uneducated.

Mad Dog, Rush Limbaugh, Imus, and others of their oppressed class live in shanties on the edge of town with no hope of ever moving up the social ladder. Their children will remain poor and ignorant. Proper health care will forever be denied them and their families.

Around the world, the vicious way the United States treats its white conservatives is a matter of immense moral shame.

[ Parent ]
So how you explainin'

the double standard, Jim?  Some people get to bash.  Some don't.



[ Parent ]
Can't see the difference between racism and personal insults?

No wonder you're having such a hard time with this.

At least you're better than "charley6". Not much, but a tiny bit.



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[ Parent ]
Who's talking about personal insults?
I'm talking about the double standard that's applied as to who gets hammered for saying words and who gets a pass for saying the same thing.  Stick with it.

[ Parent ]
where to go now?

I agree with this entire article, but what can "Dog" do now?

 it seems that plenty of people are rushing to condemn his actions and rightfully so, but what course of action should he take to remedy the situation?

If he appologizes, he is deemed insincere.

He calls on a leader in the black community  to engage in dialogue with him (granted Sharpton wouldn't be my first choice for a "leader") but it just looks like he's doing damag control. As someone who struggles with my ingrained racism, what can a guy do to repair the damage?

 

P.s. Why is anyone suprised that an old crusty white guy is racist? 



Answering this question:
"it seems that plenty of people are rushing to condemn his actions and rightfully so, but what course of action should he take to remedy the situation?

If he appologizes, he is deemed insincere."

He should admit that he's a racist.  Without that first step, he can't take another. 



[ Parent ]
I know
He'll run for office under the Republican party...and win.

[ Parent ]
Simple answer

"As someone who struggles with my ingrained racism, what can a guy do to repair the damage?"

That misses the whole point. If a person was truly concerned, they would be taking action and denying themselves the comfort and zing they get out of engaging in this crap talk. Once the damage is done, you need to be totally honest. Dog likes to use the term obviously. Like many people, it gives him a little kick. For him to suddenly act horrified just because he was caught actually just caused more damage. So the question should not be "what can a guy do to repair the damage" until the person is man enough to stop causing the damage. Both Imus and Dog immediately claimed they weren't racist. So it's hopeless right from the start. They are both in total denial.



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He can't do anything. He's screwed.

There are certain folks who can apologize 100 times, and it's never good enough.  You know why?  It's not about forgiveness.  It's about exhibiting power.



[ Parent ]
For you, everything is about power.


http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...

[ Parent ]
Not true, sweets.

Actually conservatives advocate a weak central government which, ergo, gives them less power. Libs? The want big all-powerful central government, and they want to build dependent constituencies to keep them in power. 



[ Parent ]
First steps to getting a smaller gov't

Disband Department of Homeland Security

End "No Child left behind"

End "War on Drugs"

Restore Habeus Corpus

End warrantless wiretapping 



"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

[ Parent ]
Instead of the NCLB, let's just disband the Dept of Education.

No reason to cherry pick is there? 

 As for wiretapping or detaining terrorists or those in contact with terrorists, I consider those necessary government functions.  What we should eliminate is the Terrorist Bill of Rights the Democrats have crafted.

War on drugs? You might have a point.



[ Parent ]
Missed the boat

Warrantless wiretaps violate the 4th amendment to the constitution.  If they want to follow the law and get warrants from the FISA court I wouldn't have a problem.  I think 72 hours is more than generous.

Terrorist bill of rights?  You've got to be joking?  Did you get that out of the Sean Hannity book-o-talking-points?

As far as disbanding the dept. of education, while I disagree with dismantling the entire dept, the NCLB leaves more children behind by cutting off funding to schools who do poorly.  Is that how we wanna help our children?  You don't increase test scores by cutting off funds to buy learning materials and pay qualified teachers.  That sort of defeats the purpose.   



"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

[ Parent ]
Yeah

72 hours for the terrorist to get gone. That's brilliant. As for wiretapping, did they really have that in 1787? LMAO.

Sure, it's a terrorist bill of rights. Democrats have spent more time protecting terrorists then helping our side win. I notice you didn't refute it. All you can do is call it a talking point.

Why should we reward schools that don't care and do shitty jobs?  That was the situation NCLB was implemented to change.  Let those parents send their kids to private school through school vouchers.  Unless, of course, you don't like the idea of poor kids receiving quality education.



[ Parent ]
I don't have a recipe
but here's a video that includes pirates and kids having fun, maybe this will help ease the burns from the stupidity above.

My America includes LGBT families.

[ Parent ]
Do you people realize
that Mena has never discussed an actual issue.  Most of her time is spent bitching about another poster.

[ Parent ]
I give your comments the reply that they deserve.
http://www.youtube.c...

My America includes LGBT families.

[ Parent ]
Mena hits a grand slam reply.
  Better than recipes!!!

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

[ Parent ]
Thanks, hon!
He's trying to get people angry and since he has zero credibility I thought that I would like to add some humor.  Ya can't go wrong with kids playing pirate in a music video or with Ukrainian polka-pop, can you?  ;^)

My America includes LGBT families.

[ Parent ]
Mena, you're the best.


[ Parent ]
I'll bet nobody can produce a link showing Mena discussing an issue
It's incredible.....You go through her responses....Nothing...LOL.

[ Parent ]
What do I win?
You would have to go all the way back to yesterday.  It wasn't too hard to look up. 

I can put up a few others but to be technical, this is a thread about a guy who said a bunch of dumb things and comes across as a jerk.  This means that my replies to you are actually on topic.  You changed it into an excuse to spew Fox ConservativeTM dogma about  liberals being socialists and wanting to spend (borrowed) money on sick kids instead of quagmire or irrational Hillary-hate as always.  By the way, being confrontational about politics is a fad that it totally over.  I know that we shouldn't expect much from someone who apparently thinks that stomping around, being confrontational, and pouting like a two year old is such an admirable trait that it makes someone look presidential but do try to get with reality. 

My America includes LGBT families.


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In my humble opinion

a) That song deserved to win Eurovision this year

b)Bob/Josh is a deluded wanker

and oh

c) Bob/Josh is a deluded wanker

 

I'm still laughing at the thread where he accused HappyCat and me of being the same person. If we are, given the time difference between the US and Australia, and the time of our posts , I guess we never sleep. 

 



ALLY (ALLIE) (transitive) To connect or form a relation between by similitude, resemblance, friendship, or love.

[ Parent ]
Oh my, we arn't the same, LMAO
But I would love to take a trip to Austrlia some time.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

[ Parent ]
Hello

"72 hours for the terrorist to get gone. That's brilliant."

Don't you even read up on this stuff?  It's 72 hours after the fact which the government has to apply for the warrant.   

 



[ Parent ]
fascinating...

 

So, you want to ensure that poor children who are alreayd struggling on welfare are not able to recieve breakfast and lunch, ignore thefederal requirement to see to the education and welfare of the children of the united states, and essentially cause several trillion dollars of damage to our economy becuase you think one stupid little program that does the reverse of what its supposed is a place to set up your flag?

So you support the violation of the right to search and siezure, proclaiming it a necessary government function. Yessiree, Bob, you are just a wonderful human being whose seriously locked ina sick little misery of fear.

What bill is this you are talking about.  Specifically. And who are the democrats that have signed off on it?

Come on, a retort should at least say something worthwhile, Bob.

 



http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...

[ Parent ]
Oh, Impaired One

you remind me of the the terrorists, hiding behind "the children".  That's all you libs do.  You put out this red herring as an excuse to pass all your socialist legislation.  Free health care to all,  free lunch to all,  free insurance to all....in the name of the children of course.  But of course, you aren't volunteering your own money to pay for it.  See, it doesn't make you a "wonderful human being" to suggest all this stuff if you are asking others to pay for it. 

 The terrorists bill of rights?  I'm talking about all the Democrats  who are obsessed with the comfort and happiness of Al queda terrorists, and place it ahead of the welfare and goals of our troops, whom they don't seem to give a shit about.  The Democrats who encourage the terrorists at every turn by badmouthing our side, saying we've already lost. 



[ Parent ]
Pam, Russ, Autumn, EE, anyone:

Please block this lying troll, who lets others do the "heavy lifting" and who just repeats the serial adultering, draft-dodging Rush's words.

As I've said in the past: he voted for Bush.  He shoudn't be posting here.  He should be working a second and third job to pay back the trillions that Bush borrowed, the trillions that are making pennies out of the dollar.



[ Parent ]
Trapdoor time
I admit that it can be amusing for a little while whenever Josh-Rico makes a return visit and I can watch Blenders debate circles around the pathetic idiot. But that wears off pretty quick and now he is just tiresome and annoying. Time to show him the door.

[ Parent ]
I second it
Bob is an obvious troll, and should be done away with.

"The right most treasured by civilized men is the right to be let alone."--Justice Louis Brandeis

[ Parent ]
I third the motion

Hello? Anybody at the controls?

Josh has been banned so many times, what's the hold up? I get bombarded with his assinine commonplace arguments every day from so many sources. Does it have to be tolerated in this refuge of sanity too?
 If he had anything remotely interesting or original to say it might be worth it, but he's proven over and over again that at heart he's just here to be hostile hateful and childish because it gets him off, and so does the attention. It gets to the point where I don't like coming here sometimes. This isn't the AP, it's a private blog. Please don't feed the troll!



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[ Parent ]
Have a bit of patience
It's very early Sunday am. We can at least wait until Pam wakes up and enjoys a cup of coffee. ;-)

[ Parent ]
Lol
Fair enough, but he's been back since October 19th.

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[ Parent ]
that's lame. Serioulsy lame.

 I asked you a couple questions.

I guess you didn't like them, becuase instead of answering the questions, you come back at me with a ludicrous comparison to a murdering rebel.  THen you call me a "lib" -- after everyone here pretty much already knows I'm a Republican and conservative in a way that few ever see these days.

THen you call my bringing up *your* example as a "red herring" when I was asking you a question about your statement.

Incidentally, you did sorta forget tht all those programs you are ragging on are paid through taxes, right?  And that LGBT generally pay a higher taax rate than other people, right?  SO that hey -- if they want to do that, fine.

Me, I say we let the taxpayers decide what programs their money goes to, but that's not gonna happen in this universe, lol.

You still didn't answer the question about the bill.  Instead you suddenly change the conext and thrust of what you wrote, becuase you suddenly got caught spouting an outrageous lie that in some situatins might be looked on as treasnous - and certainly shows that you are a bigot. 

What democrats -- by name, and in what specific way -- are obssessed with the happiness and comfort of Al Qaeda?

Which ones, by name and in what specific way, place AQ ahead of the troops.

 Which ones -- specifically, again -- don't give a shit about our troops -- and what evidence do you have o this mind reading statement?

And who is badmouthing "our side"?  Near as I can tell, everyone's not bad mouthing our side.

THey are bad mouthing the miserable fascist prick in the white house, who has placed *your* livelihood at risk and ensured that taxes are going to go up  AND infrastrucutre is going to be left to rot.

 You aren't even a bad excuse for a conservative. You're a statist with a love for totalitarianism.



http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...

[ Parent ]
whoa?!
what does any of this have to do with my comment about Dog?

[ Parent ]
Bad Dog!
 

What an interesting little train wreak this has been. This was not a total shock, what do you expect from a guy named Duane in the first place?  Dog and his lovely wife scream "white trash," it is part of the appeal of the show. 

 

In a larger sense Dog Chapman will not move the discussion too far.  He and his crew are too far removed from "typical" Americans.  Too many will be able to throw up their defensive shields an say "what do you expect from trailer-trash like that."  They will then go on with their normal bigoted lives.

 

In a larger sense Dog Chapman will not move the discussion too far.  He and his crew are too far removed from "typical" Americans.  Too many will be able to throw up their defensive shields an say "what do you expect from trailer-trash like that."  They will then go on with their normal bigoted lives.

 

We keep missing these opportunities to have a real discussion about race. Imus, Dog Chapman, Twanna Brawley, O.J. Simpson these are ships that pass in the night.  Black and white have way too much invested in their world views to be really honest to others and themselves.  

 

It has been almost sixty odd years since Brown vs. Board of Education of Topeka Kansas et. al. and “progress” has been painfully slow.  De Jure segregation has died an ugly and well deserved death but De Facto segregation is still the 800 pound gorilla in the room.  It is not going gently into that good night.

 

There is hope though, even after getting bombarded with Dog’s apartheid message his son still went out and dated a black woman.  Inclusion is winning over exclusion.  Note that a majority of Americans now support civil unions for Lesbians & Gays.  Just a decade ago there was a crushing majority against any type of equal protection for same-sex unions.  Again this is “progress” of a sort. 

 

It is going to be a long slow slog though to reach the golden idea of the 4th amendment though.  Equal protection is a distant dream, just check out the stats of who is in our prisons if you doubt that statement.  Far too many people of color are spending their days in lock-down for stupid stuff.  Class and race still play too large a role in our society.  Homophobia and queer-baiting are still far too popular amongst the unwashed masses.  Mainstream society is way too proud of the successes; proud that we are no longer sicking police dogs on people of color or fire-hosing them on a regular basis.  Unfortunately Bull Connors was too easy of a target, as was Lester Maddox.  Way too easy to separate those piles of vile, vicious, hating flesh from our own selves.  Way too easy to keep our own prejudices while condemning theirs.

 

We have to get beyond the victim-oppressor frameset to make true progress.  There are no good guys here; there are no bad guys either.  There are just prejudices we have to unlearn, no one is innocent, and everyone has work to do.

 

A great post.
Thanks.

[ Parent ]
Possibly the funniest thing Josh ever did

was to pose a young female in the Blend.  I won't divulge her SN, because she's very useful and she's been around longer than Josh.  (What is so interesting it that of all of Josh's personalities, they chose the fifth one, "Josh", as the real one, the go-to one.)  Anyway, Josh had this young female write the most asinine ethereal bullshit.  In fact he made it so ridiculous, it was almost a parody.  Then Josh insulted the female SN, and then lo, and behold, Holly responded  what a great and thoughtful post the young woman had written.  I mean, Josh made it so ridiculous as to rival Jen's stuff.  And right on cue, Holly praised it. LMAO.

I think that was one of Josh's best ones.



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Effectiveness

If liberal or progressive people wish to change the minds of conservative people, I feel that we will be more effective by being respectful -- while fully honest and duly assertive -- without being shrill or rude, without making fun of anyone's looks or names, and without ever resorting to deception or chicanery.  Respect and empathy can work wonders.

BobSimonds, if your interest is in being effective at actually changing minds, I think you are going about it the wrong way.  Antisocial behavior like what you describe here makes people less, not more, likely to seriously consider your points of view.

 



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KC, your behavior here at the Blend is the most consistently balanced I've encountered.
Do you do breathing exercises and stuff before you post?  Whatever it is, it's a breath of fresh air when everybody else, myself included a couple times, is losing his/her head.  Thanks.

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Perhaps a little off topic, but
When reading "Dog"s tirade, I got to thinking.  On the one hand, it is wonderful that Dog is getting the chance to rexamine his inherent racism, and learn.  On the other, I thought of all of those who try to claim that bigotry based on race and bigotry based on sexual orientation are two different things--Try replacing the 'n' word with the 'f' word or the 'd' word (faggot or dyke) and re-read Dog's comments.  It still reads pretty much the same, only not as many people would say 'What do you expect from trailer trash?'  They'd be saying 'Hear! Hear!'

Okay, I just don't get it.
Often, when I claim not to understand something, it's because I don't like the explanation. But this is beyond me.

This transcript puts Dog in the bucket with Michael Richards of the racial slur comedy troupe and Bill Richardson of the oh-is-maricon-a-slur? bigotry in translation.

The speaker is a person whose deeds, actions and relationships trend toward the inclusive and diverse. Yet under stress, all three produced some nasty language that reflects prejudice and bigotry. Then the cover-up begins, and the statements about previous actions somehow negating present words come out.

Do they think that everyone secretly shares their prejudices? Do they believe that the dehumanizing slurs are only words, and they deserve to be measured by their deeds? What are they thinking?

And Dog spelled it out pretty clearly that he's entitled to use racial slurs in private, in stating that his problem is not with the son's GF's race per se but with the danger she represents as someone who will tell the world he uses racial slurs.

There are two ways to never get caught saying 'nigger': one is the path he describes, which is to exclude from family and private associations anyone who you can see from the color of her skin would tell on you. The other is to just not say it. One path puts your fate in the hands of others, as shown. The other gives you complete control.

I can't imagine what the underlying set of assumptions is here, that leads a person to destroy his career in an effort to preserve a habit that serves no apparent purpose, that of referring to others using slurs.

Seriously, I've thought about this quite a bit and it's just too many for me, as Huck Finn would say.

But wait, there's more!


Nice analysis.
I conclude that saying "nigger" is precious to him.  Why it's precious is Dog's work, if he's brave enough to undertake it.

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Why is it so hard for A&E to decide what to do?

Either cancel his show, or don't cancel his show.  Why put it on hold?  Either his remarks rise to an unacceptable level, or they don't.  Do we really need a study group to figure it out?  There is prima facia and incontrovertible evidence that Dog (what a fitting name) is a racist.

 

 



It's because of the writer's strike
If the writer's haven't yet gone out on strike, they will any day now.  The networks and cable channels are going to be scrambling to fill their air.  I read just recently that one of the things that will help save them is that unlike most programming, which is filmed only a couple of episodes ahead of air, reality programming often time has unaired seasons sitting on the shelf waiting to be shown.  So the unaired episodes of "Dog the bounty hunter" are worth a lot more to A&E right now than they normally would be.  They must be asking themselves if they can really afford to toss them overboard right now.

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Isn't he supposed to be some born-again Christian or something?

If so, he doesn't represent the type of Jesus I know.  Sad, very sad.



Yes. Mr. Chapman's concern was for his wealth.

Not for his son's happiness.

Not for his own goodness.

But money.  More money.  Evermore money.



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Duane has a lot to learn
Duane/Dog lives in Hawaii where whites are a minority. He is actually only half-white himself I believe. (native American in part) Yet he seems to harbor extreme racist views. He has a son who he may or may not have raised who seems to be a different kind of guy. This son also spent time in prison like his father. All that life experience informs people in different ways. Duane may not come away from this a changed man. He is on the defense and will close ranks with the like-minded. The pocket book is the only way to wake this guy up but it may not be enough.

Well, so do we.

I'm not defending him, but there's only so much attention that this guy merits, and then we ought to turn it to ourselves.  It's too easy and too seductive to use Pam's as a place to try and suck up to black people/gay people and show everybody what a good white/good straight you are.  I should know; I do it all the time.  We often do it with honest good will and the best intentions, but we're also usually checking our pose in some mirror: offering comfort and solidarity is all mixed up with trying to get on the good side of the Others.

Is there anybody here that has these kinds of sophisticated discussions with different-looking people in their neighborhood, or with lower-income versions of themselves?  I don't.  I live in a redneck town where everybody on my street is a white or black version of Duane.  It's a strange situation to find oneself in if one is educated and liberal enough to be attracted to the Blend.  I don't talk to my neighbors half the time and I'm guessing a lot of people here don't either.  I don't know the names of half the people on my street.  How many people here feel like they take what they do at Pam's home and deal with real bodies face-to-face the same way, where it actually affects something?  Do you have the same style of dealing with people in real life that you have here?  I sure don't.  Down with Duane on TV and on the internet, sure, but what about a whole neighborhood or a whole town or a whole state or a whole country full of Duanes...and you.  Just you.



Nice post, Ross,

but, hey, hey, hey, Dog said the n-word!!!

And I don't.

So, I'm not racist!

I don't have to meet with Al Sharpton!



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"TAKE HIM TO DETROIT!"


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I am not a racist

There's only one person who can help Duane Chapman.  That's Damali Ayo.  She runs the website Rent A Negro. Mr. Chapman needs to contact her and negotiate a fee for which she will go on television and testify that he is not a racist.  When you have a problem like that you need professional help, and Ms. Ayo knows how to handle white people.



Thanks, Spectral.
I had missed Rent a Negro before.  It's genius satire.  My previous post was somewhat jumbled, unbalanced and frustrated, but one thing I was trying to address is Ayo's subject: white people's cumbersome, irritating need to be forgiven by black people and also to have questions answered about black people as though they are foreign specimens that are incomprehensible without expert analysis...and how those desires cause black people to be treated as commodities.  I'm aware of these pesky cravings tugging at me and feel that they probably wear black people out, unless they just don't give a shit (latter more likely).  Even if a lot of black people aren't losing sleep over my nervousness, it's hard to have a dialogue without creating this structure where a black person is still in some sense an object for a white person working out his own psychodrama.  It's hard to find a way for both people to try and learn about the other without getting lost in self-involvement.  "Help! I need a Black Opinion!," "Challenging Racist Family Members," "Will You Tell Them I'm Not a Racist?," and "Certificate of Association" sum up my embarrassment of anxieties very well.

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Do bigots all use the same play book?

It seems that regardless of the bigotry ALL bigots work from the same damned play book.  They just fill in the blanks with the applicable slur depending on the target at hand (n*gger, f*ggot, etc.); then when they get caught they flip over to chapter 20 to recite one or two of the pre-printed denials that have proven to be effective in the past.  Then they turn to Chapter 21 for a list of clever excuses for why they might have said what they just denied they've said or they just skip to Chapter 22 where they get the play by play of how to scream FIRST AMENDMENT!,  FREEDOM OF SPEECH, reassert their Christian Values and play oppressed victim of some liberal agenda.

It is so infuriating to see them contradict themselves in the same sentence when they give their lame "apologies".

Like someone mentioned above, usually when this happens to gay people nobody, including other minorities, seems to notice or care.

We will not succeed in ending bigotry until everyone realizes that no bigotry can be overlooked or tolerated.

I have no doubt that the resurgence of overt racism is due, at least in part, to the fact that people were becoming so comfortable with the endless open displays of homophobia that have become so acceptable and unchallenged in our country.  Pastors and politicians use homophobic bigotry freely from the pulpits and from the floors of Congress/White House/Supreme Court/State Houses/City Halls.  It doesn't take long before the bigoted masses start to feel empowered and emboldened to openly express their own ignorance, fear and clan-based hate.



Chapter 23
If all else fails, go to chapter 23: make a public apology to Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, who can accept their apology on behalf of the entire race and grant them absolution for their sin.

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Everyone take a deep breath

Ok, before we tar and feather him, I just want to add my thoughts.

I think it's wrong to use that word (I have never used it and never will)  but I think that some people use it in a different context than the one most here have immediately assumed he used. In this case I think he and those who work with him use it not about race, but to describe a certain type of person... in that context it's more about character than race.  As he was alluding to in the long version of the tape, the n-word they use is to describe a low class loser type of person (of any race).  In the business Dog is in, he's around all sorts of rough characters, of all races.

I'm not saying that makes it right, because it is still an offensive word, that definitely has a lot of stigma to it.  I don't think it's necessary to use ever. But I am able to understand that not all people use it in that racist/hateful context, and I think this whole story is very sad, because I think that by and large, Dog is a good guy (albeit imperfect obviously).

What I find very ironic and sad as well, is the attacks on him by people calling him "White trash", trailer trash, etc, which I think are offensive and hateful as well.

Btw, it may have been mentioned already, but his pastor (who is black) defended him and said that he doesn't think Dog is racist...  this pastor also conducted Dog and Beth's wedding ceremony. 

 

 



Being a racist doesn't make you a bad person, though

Good people have long been racist.

Indeed, ther are more good people who are racist than there are bad people who are.

That's how the bad people can get away with the overt acts of violence and demonizationthat are so deeply linked to the concept of racism in our minds.

 That's why people don't see how the use of "black person" or "white person" or similar are racist -- I mean, the terms, themselves, are pretty innocuous right -- and they are being good people...

 ALthough they are identifying them as somethin gthat in most contexts is pretty darn meaningless.

 THey are persons.

 I admit, I have a pretty skewed view of things. I'm multiracial, and I look it. One moment I'm white, the next I'm black, the following one I'm something undefined because it just doesn't make sense visually to people.  I've made a conscious choice to learn about my various backgrounds, but I've never taken them for my own becuase I'm not one of them.

I'm not black.  I'm not white. I'm not amerindian.  I'm all of them -- and more.

Where am I going to put that on a medical chart or a census form or an equal opportunity checkbox? 

My son gets to add in hispanic to that mix.

 Does any of that make me a bad person?  No.

And I've used the n word -- usually to explain why its so bad, but still, that's using it.

Dog is using it as an epithet. He doens't use it against white people. He doesn't use it against hispoanic folks, or indians.  He uses it about and against black people.

 WHile that does make him a racist who needs to seriously sit down and deal with this problem he has, it doesn't make him a bad person.

 



http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...

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True, no one should be calling anyone names

You said that he was using it to describe people's character rather than race.  To my eye that is the same argument used by proponents of saying "That's so gay."  The negative meaning wouldn't be there if the term hadn't been used as a class-identifier first.  All this does is re-define who the members of the 'other' group are.



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This Should not be About a Word

The way I see it, this is not simply about someone using a nasty word. I think Pam is totally right that Chapman's real problem is his kid is dating a black woman, and he is very racist at heart. I mean, please, this excuse for demanding the break-up is laughable - let me get this straight. He want's the kid to break up with her because she's heard him drop the N-bomb, clearly more than once, got offended and might tattle. So, Duane, what you're really saying is that your son's girlfriend has gotten a pretty good dose of your racism face-to-face, has finally said enough, and you could not respect her enough to a) attempt to change your behavior (for your son's happiness) and b) sit down with her and talk as two rational adults, which might have solved all your problems without this public mess.

The real problem for Chapman, and A&E, is that this totally destroys the carefully crafted image of "Teddy Bear but Tough" bounty hunter on the alleged reality show, which is, of course, one of the show's main draws. Now we know just how much that image has been stage-managed by the producers, who must have been editing like crazy to keep Chapman's language from airing, which makes them and the network just as culpable. 



Brings back memories for me

In 1985, my twin brother married a woman of Filipino ancestory. Some family members made horrible racist comments behind his back. My dad and was upset that his grandchildren wouldn't be white. My grandmother made it clear that she was "disappointed" with the situation and told me, "You marry a nice white German girl, Fritz." (She pretended not to know that I'm gay.)

After 22 years, my family has changed dramatically. There have been a couple more interracial marriages and it isn't a topic of concern.



When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.


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