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The Christian Civic League of Maine's Mike Hein calls Pam's House Blend:
"a leading source of radical homosexual propaganda, anti-Christian bigotry, and radical transgender advocacy."

He is "praying that Pam Spaulding will "turn away from her wicked and sinful promotion of homosexual behavior." (CCLM's web site, 10/15/07)


Ex-gay "Christian" activist James Hartline on Pam:
"I have been mocked over and over again by ungodly and unprincipled anti-christian lesbians."
(from "Six Years In Sodom: From The Journal Of James Hartline," 9/4/2006, written from the "homosexual stronghold" of Hillcrest in San Diego).

"Pam is a 'twisted lesbian sister' and an 'embittered lesbian' of the 'self-imposed gutteral experiences of the gay ghetto.'" -- 9/5/2008



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A "vicious anti-Christian lesbian activist."
(Concerned Women for America's radio show [9:15], 1/25/07)

"A nutty lesbian blogger."
(MassResistance radio show [16:25], 2/3/07)


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--"Joe"

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Deb Price on the Obama/McClurkin debacle

by: Pam Spaulding

Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 10:00:00 AM EST


Deb Price, columnist for The Detroit News, has a piece up today, Obama's mistake raises questions on gay commitment, that does a post-mortem of the unsettling events from the perspective of openly LGBT blacks who watched the mess unfold.

Sad, disappointed and more than a little hurt. That's how many Americans who are both black and gay sound when they talk about Barack Obama.

What's upsetting them is that the Democratic U.S. senator from Illinois, despite stellar gay-rights positions, sat back and allowed a gospel concert for his presidential campaign to essentially spiral into an anti-gay revival.

How? As part of wooing black evangelicals in high-stakes South Carolina, his campaign gave star-billing at an event to Grammy-winning gospel singer and preacher Donnie McClurkin, a self-identified "ex-gay" claiming to have been saved from "perversion."

Afterward, Obama continued trying to distance himself from McClurkin's views. But the reality is that he gave McClurkin a stage, a microphone, an audience and national media attention. And Obama inadvertently ended up reinforcing two myths unfortunately believed by many religious African-Americans -- that gays are white and being gay is sinful.

Rod McCullom, a popular black gay writer and longtime Obama fan, said the fiasco makes him wonder how hard Obama would push for gay equality as president. "He folded like a deck of cards. If he is going to fold on the campaign trail, why would we not think he'd fold in the Oval Office?"
What I told Deb when she interviewed me for this piece is that the events highlighted the schism between the socially conservative religious black community and black LGBTs. It was a raw, craven political choice for Obama, who is otherwise good LGBT issues generally. It's all about the numbers game.
The Obama team feels "it's no biggie for them to toss us under the bus," Spaulding says. "That is what is painful," she adds, noting the incident will drive black gays "deeper into the closet."
And, as a result, allow the spread of HIV in the black community to continue unabated as denial is affirmed. Read the rest.

 

See video of Obama at the MTV forum, which held just a couple of days  after the concert, after the jump.

Pam Spaulding :: Deb Price on the Obama/McClurkin debacle
This was what he felt was an adequate answer on the recloseted/now-decloseted gospel singer's appearance at that concert in South Carolina. Obama does reiterate his position that gays and lesbians should have all the rights and responsibilities of marriage in the form of civil unions, but it falls flat given the events of that weekend.

"We have to reach out to those who have a different attitude on these issues to try to teach...One of the things we've been doing is trying to reach out into the African American church community and I've spoken out forcefully and clearly to African American ministers and African American denominations saying we've got to get beyond some of the homophobia that still exists in some of these communities. That's part of the job of president is not to tell people want they want to hear, but also telling them what they need to hear."
What teaching might that be? It certainly didn't happen at an event where it would have done a lot of good -- last Sunday's concert.

Hat tip to Andy Towle, who felt the same way:
My problem with Obama's position on McClurkin is that though he says he wants to "teach" people about homophobia, there was clearly no "teaching" that went on at the "Embrace the Change" tour. An "ex-gay" who was allowed to emcee the entire event publicly celebrated his "deliverance from homosexuality" during the event's final hour. Did gays have any chance to rebut McClurkin's remarks to those at the event so they could "learn" about tolerance? To me, "reaching out" to people would be exposing them to an alternative perspective. Is having white gay Reverend Andy Sidden read a prayer at the beginning of the concert a real effort to do that? I don't think so.

NOTE: Diarist Stuffed Animal has an excellent diary with background up now, The Miseducation of Donnie McClurkin.

Related:
* How to blow your campaign, Obama-style
* McClurkin hangs tough at Obama concert
* The Advocate's exclusive interview with Barack Obama
* Mike Signorile interview with Rev. Andy Sidden; Team Obama rejected two gay black pastors
* Team Obama: recruiting a white pastor=bad idea
* 'Ex-gay' McClurkin's alleged lover: I was with him after he prayed away the gay
* HRC to Obama: no place for a homophobe on the stage in SC
* Black media ignores the Obama / anti-gay recloseted McClurkin controversy
* McClurkin bobs and weaves, Team Obama scrambles as HRC lowers the boom
* Why is Obama touring with 'ex-gay' homophobe Donnie McClurkin?
* Obama won't back down from SC concert with homobigot ex-gay Donnie McClurkin
* Donnie McClurkin isn't the only homophobe on the bill with Obama
* Audio from my appearance on the Michelangelo Signorile show on Sirius Out Q discussing the dustup.

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Spot on
Great post, Pam.  I adore Deb Price.  Her writing and reporting go straight for the truth, without being shrill.  Apart from referring to George W. Bush in a column before he was elected as a "moderate," I'd say Deb Price is flawless.  She's a goddess.

In the wayback days, W campaigned as a moderate.


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Deb Price Was Awesome Before Awesome was Cool

I remember Deb Price in the dark ages back when the only time people talked about gay issues in mainstream press was in stories about tragedy and violence.  She was brilliant then, always speaking about us as though we're real people, with fully realized voices and beliefs, reflecting the diversity of belief and opinion. 

She's brilliant, awesome, and I'm always glad to see her writing.



I'm only a click away.

very true
i remember my supervisor at work pointing out her articles to me way back in the 80s.  this was in the midwest - not an especially gay-friendly time/place.  it was his way of showing me his support without having to speak too directly.  her column was a lone voice in our state at that time, and it meant a lot that it was there.

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Obama is a coward.

He's pathetic, spineless and wretched. The less we have to see of him and his sad, pandering campaign, the better.

 



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Definitely Spot On... this Obama supporter..
has decided that though I'm still reserving my vote (might vote for him in the primary, just maybe),

I have definitely suspended my financial and volunteer support (which had been substantial to this point) for Obama until after the convention. If he wins the nomination, I'll support him financially and otherwise (NO Republican contender is even close to him), but this fiasco has made me pull support from him...

and from all of them. ::sigh::

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What a waste

There were so many ways he could have finessed this, not that that would have been ideal, but it would have been better than this.

Bringing a black gay or ally minister, then Obama personally saying - you might agree with Rev. Fill-In-The-Blank (Monroe, for prefs), or with Donnie McClurkin, but one thing is for sure - lgbt black people exist, they are our sons and daughters, and we have to acknowledge their existence.

Piss off both sides, but not a lot. 



Unless he does something substantial between now and primary day...

...Obama will lose more than black gay voters.  He will lose non-black gays, and many straight liberals who are already saddened by the position held on this issue by many of the black churches.

The anti-homosexuality position of most Christian churches is pure and unadulterated bigotry, reflecting the preconceptions of its members and not the words of Christ.  This message could be brought home by a genuine, charismatic reformer.



OBAMA LOSES!
You are absolutely correct.  There is only negative here for wishy-washy Obama.
I was hoping as were many that he truly was ethical, not just political,
but as they say you love by doing not by saying. The GOLDEN RULE went down the tank here.

I gave up on him after the YouTube debate.... anyway.  He needs to grow up some more.

Very proud to be STRAIGHT BUT NOT NARROW.
(And I was proud to be an HRC member, having a slight rethink today.)

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Now on the side of Hollywood writers on strike
Both he and Hillary, but then they get before the holier than thou evangelicals and claim to be against Hollywood.

Make alot of noise. Life is short.

Leadership means leading

I've spoken out forcefully and clearly to African American ministers and African American denominations saying we've got to get beyond some of the homophobia that still exists in some of these communities.

A true leader leads by example.  Nothing would have sent a stronger message that intolerance is unacceptable than to have removed McClurkin from the agenda.  Saying one thing, then doing another only teaches the rest of your community that it's okay to speak out of both sides of your mouth.  But that's what the faith community has been doing for so long anyway:  we love you but hate that you love differently from us.  The Black church and black community is no better.  They love their gay family members and friends but preach hate against them in church.

Obama blew his chance to do something significant here.  Nothing he can say now will erase it.

Personally, my vote will go for Kucinich in the primary.  It's my conscience I gotta live with.  In the end when the actual election comes, I'll vote for whoever is left.  Now I hope it's not Obama.



More than disappointed now

I was really disappointed about the MuClurkin fiasco.  But I decided to give Obama a chance to repond/clarify/spin. So I kept checking Obama's official website. Check it out for yourself: http://www.barackobama.com - there are no LGBT issues in his Issues folder, but there are such things as "Reconciling Faith and Politics" and "Strengthening Family and Community." 

Under People," he does include LGBT among various others, but there has been no post since 10/22.  It's been almost 10 days since McClurkin sang and preached, and his campaign knows how pissed off most of us were.  But still no response. Instead the sidebar includes news on how Obama went to North Carolina and talked about schools - and how he went to South Carolina and talked about civil rights (but not about us or our rights).

Maybe his campaign thinks we'll just forget about it if he ignores it all together. Or maybe they've just written us off entirely.  Meanwhile, I'm getting emails from his campaign about an upcoming appearance in San Francisco. Maybe he's saving any comment about LGBT issues for an LGBT audience,

I don't know how much of the McClurkin episode was calculated and how much was just incompetence.  But I don't feel very good about his leadership, courage, or political acumen.

One good thing did come out of this:  I found this website.  Great!



Is Obama really selling out?

I don't think Obama is selling out simply by hanging around these anti/ex-gay folks. Yes, the ex-gay movement is one of the most damaging thing to hit our kids, but simply hanging around people who love the movement doesn't threaten Obama's views or stance

Surely, the mere proximity and exchange of friendly words is no recipe, in and of itself, for backsliding into bigotry.

But know that my ears are well open, because I know this has been a contentious issue. 

 

 



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