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New Hampshire primary open thread - AP calls it for Hillary, McCain pulls it off

by: Pam Spaulding

Tue Jan 08, 2008 at 19:48:19 PM EST


(UPDATE, 10:35: with 66% in, AP calls it for Hillary.) 

These grids are from the WaPo front page, (Also: check out WMUR's coverage from NH).

N.H. Democratic Primary  
CandidateVotes%
Red Checkmark Hillary Clinton 110,550 39
Barack Obama 102,883 36
John Edwards 47,803 17
Bill Richardson 12,987 5
Other 8,111 3
Key: Red Checkmark Winner
Precincts: 96% | Updated: 2:04 AM ET | Source: AP

11:50: Oh, I just heard NBC’s Brian Williams bring up “The Bradley effect,” (aka the Wilder effect).

a phenomenon which has led to inaccurate voter opinion polls in some American political campaigns between a white candidate and a non-white candidate.[1][2][3] Specifically, there have been instances in which statistically significant numbers of white voters tell pollsters in advance of an election that they are either genuinely undecided, or likely to vote for the non-white candidate, but those voters exhibit a different behavior when actually casting their ballots. White voters who said that they were undecided break in statistically large numbers toward the white candidate, and many of the white voters who said that they were likely to vote for the black candidate ultimately cast their ballot for the white candidate. This reluctance to give accurate polling answers has sometimes extended to post-election exit polls as well.

Researchers who have studied the issue theorize that some white voters give inaccurate responses to polling questions because of a fear that they might appear to others to be racially prejudiced. Some research has suggested that the race of the pollster conducting the interview may factor into that concern. At least one prominent researcher has suggested that with regard to pre-election polls, the discrepancy can be traced in part by the polls’ failure to account for general conservative political leanings among late-deciding voters.

I’m not sure that it applies here, given the complicating factor of gender bias, and what we can now call “The Tweety Effect,” where the misogyny of a talking head in the MSM so enrages a demographic that they go out and vote in a manner that will put egg on the face of the talking head. [I wonder if "The Tweety Effect" will catch fire; Digby cited me.] 

Brad Friedman of the BradBlog thinks something is not quite right about the results; the optical voting machines in the state are the same machines that were featured in the HBO doc Hacking Democracy. There could be voting machine monkey business, or it could be The Tweety Effect. I just hope it's not the Bradley effect. Only time will tell.

11:06: Hillary is speaking now, and looks relieved and says she "found her own voice." Not sure what that means exactly, though she does reference speaking from her heart (is this referring to her "emotional moment" in the diner?). 

10:55: Obama is giving another of his rousing speeches, I haven't heard a concession yet.

10:14: Edwards, still in 3rd, is speaking. He's not getting out of the race, despite Tweety calling for his exit. 9:40: It's obviously going to be very, very close.

9:30: Boy, Obama is closing in after Hillary Clinton holding a steady 4-5 point lead up until now. The college towns haven't reported in yet, and those are expected to go to Obama, though the high turnout of women has broken for Hillary Clinton. Very interesting.


It's has already been called for McCain (around 8:30) and Romney and Huckabee have called and conceded. Romney's campaign is in a world of hurt now. CNN has Fred Thompson at 2%; he only manages to fall into the pitiful "Other" designation here. What will the Freepers do?

N.H. Republican Primary  
CandidateVotes%
Red Checkmark John McCain 86,802 37
Mitt Romney 73,806 32
Mike Huckabee 26,035 11
Rudy Giuliani 20,054 9
Other 26,683 11
Key: Red Checkmark Winner
Precincts: 96% | Updated: 2:04 AM ET | Source: AP

Also, as mentioned in the comments, Rudy Giuliani pulled in a poor showing; he's at 9%, neck and neck with Ron Paul (8%). That's pathetic.

Will you be part of the process that determines who's nominated? I won't, since NC's primary is May 6. The list of primary dates is after the jump.

Pam Spaulding :: New Hampshire primary open thread - AP calls it for Hillary, McCain pulls it off

Here is the rest of the primary lineup.

JANUARY 2008
January 3: Iowa (Winners: Obama, Huckabee)
January 5: Wyoming (R)
(Winner: Romney)
January 8: New Hampshire (Winners: Clinton, McCain)
January 15: Michigan
January 19: Nevada, South Carolina (R)
January 26: South Carolina (D)
January 29: Florida

FEBRUARY 2008
February 1: Maine (R)
February 5: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho (D), Illinois, Kansas (D), Massachusetts, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico (D), New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Utah
February 9: Louisiana, Kansas (R)
February 10: Maine (D)
February 12: District of Columbia, Maryland, Virginia
February 19: Hawaii (D)*, Washington, Wisconsin

MARCH 2008
March 4: Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont
March 8: Wyoming (D)
March 11: Mississippi

APRIL 2008
April 22: Pennsylvania

MAY 2008
May 6: Indiana, North Carolina
May 13: Nebraska, West Virginia
May 20: Kentucky, Oregon
May 27: Idaho (R)

JUNE 2008
June 3: Montana, New Mexico (R), South Dakota

(I moved the new info on possible Clinton shakeups to the prior related thread to give this thread more room for NH updates)

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Edwards called for 3rd
The tightness of the numbers as of 8;30 PM has to be heartening for Camp Hillary. I don't know when they'll be able to call it. CNN has gone ahead and projected that Edwards will come in third.

Can anyone tell me
Why CNN has that fraud "Christian" Ralph Reed on the air?

Almost
Almost changed the channel when I saw his baby face.  What in hell did they have in mind when they picked him as a commentator??

[ Parent ]
BAHH!!!!
Come on, Big O, catch up!!!

I'm relieved its not a foregpne conclusion...
I don't necessarily want Clinton to win in November...or anyone for that matter....I just don't want it to be determined in January...more states have to participate before it is a done deal...and they all need to sweat much more.

for tonight - GO Clinton!

tomorrow the deal is off.


I just want to be part of the process, but NC is May 6
It's all over by then.

[ Parent ]
A lottery would be nice
instead of the manipulation I feel influenced the primary schedule this year.  Super Duper Tuesday seems likely to be the determining day...although it could continue afterward.

Im glued to the tube.


[ Parent ]
MSNBC numbers 9:08pm
John McCain17,84937%0
Mitt Romney13,52528%0 
Mike Huckabee5,78312%0 
Rudy Giuliani4,3189%0 
Ron Paul4,036
8%0 
Fred Thompson6281%0 
Duncan Hunter2671%0 
29% of precincts reporting
 
Rudy, meet Ron. You're firmly in his territory. Bwahaha.

Electricity's for light bulbs!

oh and Joe Scarborough
was on MSNBC yelping that tonight's a great victory for Giuliani.

Electricity's for light bulbs!

[ Parent ]
WTF? ROTFLOL
What was Joe smoking?

[ Parent ]
OMG
Olberman just said that Rudy is saying that he's lulling his opponents int a false sense of security.

Meanwhile, Tweety Chris Matthews is questioning why Edwards would stay in the race! My head is about to explode.

Electricity's for light bulbs!


[ Parent ]
OMFG part II
Are you sh*tting me? ROTFLOL! Rudy thinks he's going to deal his opponents a body blow?

And these calls for Edwards to get out are ridiculous, given how close the top 2 are.  


[ Parent ]
Yeah, Keith
chuckled as he said it.  I really wish they had given a clip of it. It didn't seem like a joke though.


Electricity's for light bulbs!

[ Parent ]
found a source for it
It looks like Rudy really did try to spin it that way :)

"This race is a wide-open race!" he said. He noted that he's been tested by crises in the past.

Then he came up with a novel spin on his weak finish.

"Maybe we've lulled our opponents into a false sense of confidence now."



Electricity's for light bulbs!

[ Parent ]
John McCain is really old
and so is his speech...zzzzzz

he really looks tired
the difference in McCain's energy level and appearance between 2000 and 2008 is pretty stark.

[ Parent ]
and he seems annoyed with the interruptions
does he think he won the race?  this speech isn't ending...

no, god bless YOU.


[ Parent ]
Has anyone seen
Ron Paul and Lyndon LaRouche in the same room at the same time?

Hudson NH
Hudson has predicted the outcome of the NH primary for the last 50 years. Here are the results:

Clinton 1,997 46% 100%
reporting
Obama 1,353 31%
Edwards 798 18%
Richardson 130 3%
Kucinich 31 1%
Biden 11 0%
Gravel 6 0%
Dodd 2 0%

My household went Clinton 4/Edwards 1  All the women voted for Clinton, the lone man me voted for Edwards. One daughter did not vote ("All politicians are crooks").


interesting, Herb
It's a big gap there, do you anticipate that large a gap overall, or just that Hudson is a predictor of the outcome only?

[ Parent ]
Yes
The southern part of the state where all the population is usually votes the same.  Alot of these towns have not reported yet so I would assume Clinton's lead is going to hold and widen.  It looks like alot of independents spit to the Republicans for McCain

[ Parent ]
One very important thing
One very important thing to not - its the Democrats who seem to be the ones who have the fire.  They voted, I believe, at a level of 30% greater than 2004. I think this is a good start on "throwing the bums out" in November.

[ Parent ]
Also
The four Clinton supporters in this house are giving me a hard time.  Are all you women such poor winners....

[ Parent ]
Primary called for Hillary
MSNBC just called the NH Democratic primary for Hillary.  With 66% of the votes counted, she received 39% and Obama received 36%.

It's still a horse race.


So did the Associated Press


[ Parent ]
Aaaaaand there off!
Ohio (my state) doesn't have it's primary until the first week of March.  Maybe Obama, Clinton and Edwards can keep things volatile until then.

I would love for my primary vote to mean something.


[ Parent ]
March
I live in NH but I personally believe that the first primary in the country should be a rotating group of 2 or 3 states so that everyone has a chance to be first and have their votes count.

[ Parent ]
It was interesting to see
Rachel Maddow and Pat Buchanan on MSBNC. She really was great.  

Electricity's for light bulbs!

on the split
screen with each other that is.

Electricity's for light bulbs!

[ Parent ]
rousing without saying anything
"Obama is giving another of his rousing speeches"
See that's my problem with Obama.  I agree he gives rousing speeches, I just don't hear that he says anything....
The only concrete promise he made was ending the war in Iraq and bring the troops home..

hey, I didn't say it was successful
Only rousing. If you saw at McCain's ponderous speech, you'd see the hilarious comparison.

[ Parent ]
At this particular time and place...
a rousting speech is appropriate.  A laundry list speech that a policy wonk would love would not only lower the energy in the room, it would put them to sleep and discourage them at the same time.

Sometimes you need to have the minutia spelled out in exacting detail.  Here, however, Obama needed to let his supporters know that they did well, that he appreciated their efforts, and to remind them of the common dream they all hold.  

"Follow me to the mountain top" speeches tend to inspire people to throw their hearts and souls into the campaign.  And I think he will need this type of energy for a while


[ Parent ]
At lest he doesn't promise everything and the kitchen sink
I don't trust Hillary to keep any of her promises.

<3 Sam

[ Parent ]
What I'm loving
I'm loving the complete desperation of the GOP field:

* Total GOP vote counts for any of the top tier are far less than the number of Dem votes for that top tier.

* Romney eating dirt again (as he blows his sons' inheritance)

* McCain's pondering, pathetic victory speech. He looks tired and ill (look at video from 2000 vs. today)

* the wheels coming off of Fred "1%" Thompson's campaign.

* Rudy making such a big splash in NH that he and Ron Paul are holding hands at 9%.

* Huckabee at third (he'll easily take SC, but after that, the Dominionist should start swirling the bowl)


Voting
As others have said, I just want my vote to mean something.  In California, this should be a real test of GOTV in a huge state with a real diverse population.  My former Governor should be dropping out any second now.

Let this conversation continue.


Sorry
I also have to say the commentators were dumber than a box of rocks. They are just now figuring out there is a gender gap in the country???

Go Hillary!
NH resident here.  96% of the vote in and Hillary's lead is still at 3%.  It was 3-4% all night.  It will be interesting to see the pollsters squirm trying to explain how they were soooo wrong.

A popular morning drive time radio talk show host didn't help Obabma this morning with his misogynistic statements about not voting for a woman.  It really pissed me off and I emailed the station.  It was good to hear his female co-host call him on his sh*t on air.

As far as how the primary season is structured here's my idea: New Hampshire, Iowa, Nevada and South Carolina, representing 4 different regions, all vote on the same day, around April 15th.  Trying to shorten the cycle back to a reasonable length.  The candidates then tweak their messages and 6 weeks later (June 1st?) the rest of the country votes-all at once.


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