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Hutcherson's wife: we're being harassed because of Ken's views

by: Pam Spaulding

Fri Feb 08, 2008 at 10:00:00 AM EST


I'd say bring out the tiny violin in most cases of a homophobe being publicly called out, but the family, particularly the children, of an anti-gay media-seeking blowhard like Ken Hutcherson of Antioch Bible Church (near Seattle) do not deserve to be ostracized or called names.

Rev. Hutch's wife Pat went to a school board meeting to express her dismay at the public reaction to her husband's reputation after his appearance on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day at Mount Si High School.  Video and much more are below the fold

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It was standing room only at the school board meeting as Pat discussed the harassment that has followed the couple and their four children since her husband spoke at an assembly at Mount Si High School on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day.

"My family is boldly called names like 'bigot', 'homophobe' and we've been permanently branded in the valley," she said.

The pastor, who is known for his anti-gay stance, was booed and publicly questioned by two teachers during the assembly. The incident has raised numerous concerns and issues, including bad manners and the acceptance of gays and lesbians. Some students are even concerned that teachers are imposing their personal beliefs on the students.

"I have six classes a day. I know the personal beliefs of all six of my teachers and I don't want to," one student said at the meeting.

"I also think that to invite an anti-gay person was sending wrong message to students at Mount Si," another said.

I have no idea what Pat Hutcherson or her children believe; we can make some assumptions of course, but it's irrelevant -- they aren't public figures and should only answer for their views and actions.  I will say, however, that Ken's wife should not be surprised that the appearance of her husband generated negative publicity, given Ken's outspokenness about the evils of homosexuality. And they are activities that are far beyond anything coming from the pulpit.

Here are some of the public activities of Hutcherson:

* For years he's tried to prevent pro-LGBT legislation from passing in Washington state without any success.

* Hutcherson showed up at Microsoft's shareholder meeting last year to announce his plan to "take over" the Redmond-based software giant to punish it for not discriminating against its LGBT employees. His master plan to bring Bill Gates to his knees is for evangelicals buy up enough shares of Microsoft to have a majority vote and run the software giant in the bible-based tradition they believe in - while passing Ken one share of stock for every three they purchase. He has backing by Richard Land of the Southern Baptist Convention and fundie and failed presidential candidate Gary Bauer on this project, and, as Hutch puts it, "a whole host of powerful white people behind me."

* Back in March 2007, Pastor Hutch made headlines because of his claim that the Bush White House's Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives named him "Special Envoy for Adoptions, Family Values, Religious Freedom, and Medical Relief," and he represented himself as such in Latvia. The White House denied this, and Hutch threatened to prove his status by producing video of him being given the "power." (He has yet to produce his evidence.)

* He has consorted over there and stateside with Latvian-based fundamentalist extremists that are fomenting anti-gay thuggery on the West Coast, specifically among Russian and Ukrainian immigrants in the Sacramento Valley. The group calls itself the Watchmen on the Walls, which believes, among other things:

We are against cohabitation, divorce, abortion, adultery and other behaviors that weaken the marriage-based society on which civilization depends. But we are especially focused against homosexuality, because those who practice this self-destructive vice, and have organized themselves into a political movement, are the chief enemies of the natural family.

We view homosexuals like we view alcoholics: unfortunate people trapped in a bad lifestyle. Like alcoholics, they should have the right, if they reject therapy, to enjoy privacy in their own homes. But they should not be allowed to publicly recruit others to their lifestyle. Pubic advocacy of homosexuality should be, like public drunkenness, culturally discouraged to minimize its impact on society.

With a high-profile rep like that, it's no wonder the Mount Si High School teachers were well-aware of the dilemma posed by a school inviting this particular pastor to talk about tolerance and inclusion in celebration of the ideals of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

That the matter has devolved into such incivility shows how raw the emotions are - but his family didn't go on these anti-gay rampages.

Other Hutch Blend posts:

* Hate group Watchmen On the Walls conference with Ken Hutcherson a bust
* When Fundies Fail Fundies
* Pastor Hutch and his 'ex-lesbian' fan
* Anti-gay pastor Hutch in hot water - FBI complaint filed over claim he's a 'special envoy'

Hat tip. Auntie Neo Kawn.

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His kids are going to have enough trouble just being his kids that they don't need to be picked on.  People should have the courage to directly confront Hutch and perhaps his wife as bigots and homophobes.  ON THE OTHER HAND, the school and the Hutchs are really responsible for causing this.  Whose bright idea was it for him to speak at their school? Does he live in such a bubble that he didn't think his talk would cause his kids problems?

I make public statements in the media and am a relatively well-known person in the community on the basis of my sometime controversal work and being openly gay.  I try to keep those things a respectful distance from my kids' education.  It is too important that kids get a good education for parents to try to inject their radical agendas into the school.  I recognize some of my views are extemely liberal for the community; Hutch should recongnize that even in his community he is extreme.


Public Figures
wife and family are public figures because he is.   He sought and achieved public notice and it slops over to cover his family.
 

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I agree
At least in the case of his wife.  She's certainly a (local) public figure if she's giving speeches at school board meetings.

Sorry Mrs. Hutch, but you're married to a superstitious asshole who's made a career of whipping up hatred against his fellow citizens.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto


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"bigot" and "homophobe"
both memes are relatively benign as far as hate speech retorts go.  the Hutches  sound awfully thin-skinned to me, very quick to carefully choreograph their martyr routine.  

and if these bigots' kids are exposed to terms like "bigot" that's just TFB.  in fact it shows remarkable restraint.

   

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I agree with...
the name calling, that is disrespectful and stooping down to the dog poo level that is the Hutch. However, people have the freedom to socialize with whom they like and if people was to ostracize the family then they can do so. The husband is a narrow minded, bigoted throwback to the dark ages and I cannot imagine too many people wanting to be associated with that. If the wife does not like it then she should divorce his ass and get on with her life.

I agree, but...
...maybe Pat Hutcherson needs to attempt to reign in her f-ing crazy husband.  Maybe a little spillover is a good thing.

This makes clear that his words impact more people than who he's trying to hurt.


Take some ownership

Again, wah fuckin' wah on her and the family. I'm not of the viewpoint that they should be targeted directly, but if she stands by her husband's opinions, then own up to the crap that goes with it. What? We're supposed to hug it out now? I don't see them running to our rescue when we're labelled, smeared, targeted, misrepresented, etc.

I say too fuckin' bad for her and her family. 



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Waahh - I was a bigot and people are calling me on it
the persecution these poor christians suffer simply because they feel that stoning gays is god's will.

I think the tiny violin is appropriate


tiny violin appropriate
I'm not saying an eye for an eye but Hutchinson agressively attacks all gay families.  This includes children as well, if not in particular.

Yes, it's a sad compare and contrast...
...with Autumn's thread below about the Maine family with a transgender child and what they are all facing.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

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Condemn harrassment of Hutcherson's children.
I have sympathy for the Hutcherson children. I believe that they ought to be left out of this and that this discourse ought to take place between adults.

My own children experienced a great deal of discomfort caused by others when I was outed nearly a decade ago from people with belief's like Reverend Hutcherson. I would like to think that not only myself but the entire LGBT community can rise above his level of behaviour and condemn harrassment of his children publically.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


Condemn harrassment of Hutcherson's children.
I have sympathy for the Hutcherson children. I believe that they ought to be left out of this and that this discourse ought to take place between adults.

My own children experienced a great deal of discomfort caused by others when I was outed nearly a decade ago from people with belief's like Reverend Hutcherson. I would like to think that not only myself but the entire LGBT community can rise above his level of behaviour and condemn harrassment of his children publically.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


I'll send them a Hallmark card
Now they know how we feel as targets of harassment.

The Husband's an Ass
but the wife was speaking as a mother.  Maybe she should have a chat with her husband about the fall out to his family from his actions, but that is nobody's business but theirs.  There is no excuse, ever, for harrasment and bad manners.  If you claim that no one deserves such abuse, then you have to claim it for all.

And I agree with the lad who doesn't want to know his teachers' beliefs: that's not their job.  Their job is to provide a clear space for him to make up his own mind, and furnish him with the tools to do it.


Simple
Everything this man got at that school, he deserved...and more. It seems that his life revolves around turning our fellow citizens against us. Targeting his children however, is not acceptable.

"The pastor...was...publicly questioned by two teachers during the assembly."
Three cheers for these teachers!  I'm glad that they understood what damage Hutcherson was trying to do to their students, and countered him.  LGBT kids need to know that there are adults who will stand up with them and for them.  It is vital.

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Question, yes...
But I do not agree with booing.  That is just childish.

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i'm not so sure i agree about the booing.
first of all, the audience was full of children, so we shouldn't be surprised if childish things were done.

second, i'm not so sure it was childish.  i am glad that enough kids had the moxie to push back in the only way available to them when faced with such ugliness.  what else could they do in such a setting?  students aren't allowed the freedom to walk out of assemblies.  by booing, they let their fellow lgbt students know that they were not alone, and they let hutcherson know that his message of hate was not welcome there.  we should be proud that that school has produced some kids who think and reason for themselves.

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Note Even the Small Violin
I can't worry at all about any harassment the wife and/or children might be facing. I realize they may not be directly responsible for the views of the "reverend," but the only reason he was invited to the school was because his daughter is a student there, and she introduced him to the crowd. Given the public anti-gay and anti-human stance chosen by Kenny boy, he has to expect negative reactions in public, and he chose to be identified with his daughter. As someone else points out, he attacks gay families, including children, all the time, and would not have had a problem if a LGBT parent were booed in a similar situation. To me it is akin to the woman who helped her daughter post the fake MySpace profile to attack her daughter's former friend and that caused her to commit suicide. The entire family, including the father, are considered pariahs in their community, and should be.

Free speech is guaranteed by the Constitution, but speech without consequences is not. When one takes an anti-social position, and fights for that position by violating every conceivable concept of human compassion, one cedes the right to be treated with any respect or decency, and that includes one's children.  


Evangelical Preacher Family
Evangelical Preacher Families are very much under the microscope of the congregation ... wife and children.  It goes with the territory of being a preacher's wife or a PK ... preacher's kid.  And you can bet dollars to donuts that the wife AND kids of Hutcherson believe lock step with Hutcherson ... else there would be hell to pay.

Frankly I have no problem with calling a homophobe a homophobe ... especially the wife.  I have no problem calling her a hater.  I can understand why she resents it, still, if the shoe fits.  She is used to the respect and honor due to a minister's wife.  Being called out for the hatred and evil of her beliefs is all new to her.  I hope she just hates it!

I say let adults leave the kids alone.  But if other kids confront the kids ... that is just fine with me.  Hutch's kids need a good dose of reality ... of seeing what
Daddy's hatred is really about.

And kudos to the kids who booed and to the teachers who stood up for lgbt kids.  Well done!

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being a PK is really tough
i was a PK, and you are 100% correct that PKs (and wives) are under the church and community microscope for that fact alone.  we should criticize the parents roundly, but leave the kids out of it.  they are already forced to be in the PK goldfish bowl, and already have enough pressure to be perfect all the time.

i don't know how old these kids are, but it may be that they just see him as daddy and have no real understanding of what he is spewing.  if they do understand it and disagree with it, they may be faking agreement because they're terrified of losing their parent's love (much like kids being afraid to come out as gay).  if the latter is the case, it may be unsafe for them to "come out" in opposition to the homophobia until they are financially independent of their parents.  i hope other kids understand this with the same sensitivity that they understand the plight of the closeted gay kid, but i fear that that is not the case.

maybe the children of hutcherson, brian camenker and amy contrada should form Children of Fundigelical Fearmongers (CHAFF) so they can support each other.

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HOMOBIGOT CONFERENCE MARCH 1 IN HOUSTON, TEXAS
Here is a great opportunity to harrass three homobigots in one night folks.  Come on out Houston.

From Homobigot Rev. Rick Scarborough's visionamerica.us website:

A Tribute to Tim and Beverly LaHaye
Saturday, March 01, 2008, 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM

Location: Westin Galleria Hotel, 5060 West Alabama Houston, TX US 77056

For full details and registration materials click here.

To register online click here


News item on station KOMO?, just replace the "K" with an "H"
I love the irony...
Where is the Hutchersons' sympathy for GLBT couples going through the courts and legislatures to gain legal recognition with equality of their long term / lifetime loving relationships? What about J's comandment: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? How does that "fit" into Ken Hutcherson and his family? Ken has a big mouth (tongue is the most dangerous weapon) that get's him into trouble and achieves pay dirt with his hateful efforts. Ken blows smoke at recent MicroSoft stockholder meeting on equality.
What goes around comes around. Sorry Mrs. Hutcherson, your chickens have come home to roost. Change the tone of you & your family, Ken included, then ask and seek forgiveness for all the hatred you've contributed to creating and THEN live your lives according to Jesus's commandment.

Spouses of Public Figures
If you marry a movie star, you get reflected fame, but you expect to have to deal with paparazzi.  

If you marry a politician, you get a reflected social status bump, but you expect to have to deal with reporters.  

If anyone's spouse chooses to be an active participant in the public spotlight, there will be subjectively attractive consequences, as well as subjectively unattractive consequences.

I'm sure this woman has no problem with being the "Queen Bee" of her religious community, the highest lay status is pastor's wife, no?  

But she resents the fact that along with the welcome and unearned adulation from her spiritual micro-community; comes unwelcome and equally unearned infamy as a result of her husband's spouting of retrograde positions in the larger community.

She wants to have her cake and eat it too, she'll 'stand by her man' and defend his positions, but she doesn't want to see herself as responsible for the consequences of those choices. Think of the wife of a Klansman who is being ostracized by her neighbours because she chooses to continue to stand by her husband's violence.  

I think it's about pride.  She's used to a position of social power.  Suddenly she's confronted with a reality that people are no longer afraid to disagree with her, and they won't treat her with the unearned respect she believes she is entitled to.

From her perspective, something valuable has been taken away from her, the right to judge others without being judged in return.


She has a solution at her disposal...
...divorce the bigot.

As long as she embraces a bigot, she's embracing bigotry.

Is David Duke's wife a fine, upstanding citizen?  How about the wife of Fred Phelps?  Eva Braun?


Ironically,
I was having a discussion with my 12-year-old son this morning about free speech.  One of the things we talked about was that part of the price we pay for having that right is having to also accept the consequences of what we say.  Seems like Rev. Ken and wife haven't learned that yet.

it's morning in 2008
  Oh PUH-LEEZE!
 Ken would be at the end of a rope, were this 1948! He's consorting with a white woman and they had kids. Imagine the harrassment and threat and everything that could come from righteous segregtionists.

 The shoe is on the other foot now, Hutchersons, injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. NOW...how does it feel? How does it feel to be on the RECEIVING end of someone's disdain and judgement?

 And you learned nothing but how to whine...
Christ told his flock to love thy neighbor as yourself PRECISELY so that you wouldn't go around doing things that ultimately will be a reflection of your own behavior. And Jesus didn't exclude ANYONE from that commandment.
So, now that the opportunity has come, he and his wife are such coward and candy assed babies, Jesus's lesson in empathy is LOST on them, and when such a lesson is lost on them....anybody here think heaven is likely?

   They get a taste of their own medicine and they can't take it for two seconds. Why am I not surprised?
Oh right, didn't they think that Jesus actually MEANT what he said?


Using winger logic,
  Remove the Children from the rev and his wife.   Their lifestyle puts the Children at risk.  For the safety of the Children, remove them from these parents!!!

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

What harrassment?

Vandalism?  Late night phone calls?  Beat downs?  Lost employment?  Police surveillance?  Probably not.

Maybe I haven't heard the whole story, but it sounds like Mrs. Hutcherson is labeling any and all discussion of their beliefs as "harrassment."  If she has specifics about people bullying her children, she should be down at the principal's office, for sure, like any other parent.


Well That's Whatcha Get
When you pick a fight you better expect a hit or too.

It's typical of these Rightwing"nuts" to expect everyone to listen and except their point of view and demand silence from anyone who disagrees.

Guess he learned the hard way that "If you open your mouth, you might get a foot planted in your ass."

So sorry Momma Hutcherson and the kiddies got their feelings hurt but in the evangelical world the man is the master of his own house and when your married to an asshole.......

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The children certainly don't deserve it...
...That being said, his wife lets it go on and she stays associated with him. Both of the adults in this scenario are putting their own children at risk by saying hateful, bigoted things.  

Pure hypocrisy from Hutcherson...
The children definitely should not be targeted for the "harassment" caused by those against Hutcherson's statements.  However, Hutcherson is exploiting his children for his own gain.

If she's speaking for him...
Then she's entered the public forum, and she shouldn't be surprised when people don't just listen meekly to her acceptance and promotion of hate.

The kids should be left out of it, however.  


spot on!
I was having a discussion with my 12-year-old son this morning about free speech.  One of the things we talked about was that part of the price we pay for having that right is having to also accept the consequences of what we say.  Seems like Rev. Ken and wife haven't learned that yet.
Yea, leave the kids out of it. Mom and Pops? Good, I'm glad your catching hell and I hope there is alot more to come. Bullies get all surprised when people fight back.
Too FN Bad!  

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What goes around....
Cry me a river! These people want to whine about a few weeks of being called names, try an entire LIFETIME!!!!!

People like this deserve no sympathy. They call a group of people names then cry when the favor is returned.  


I have to wonder
Are their kids really being harassed or are they just claiming it for pity points? Frankly the way I look at it, they are responsible for what they have in their lives and if what he and his wife say publicly is having an effect on their children, maybe they might want to take a step back and think about what they're doing. After all isn't that their advice to us when our kids are picked on because they have two moms or two dads? Oh yeah, I forgot. They're "christians." Personal responsibility is only for those who aren't like them.

I find it ironic someone who is hateful and intolerant is invited to speak about acceptance and diversity.  

Never try to train a pig. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.


I have to say...
From the comments in this thread:

Both of the adults in this scenario are putting their own children at risk by saying hateful, bigoted things.

This is no more true than the idea that Medgar Evers put his children at risk for being outspoken about civil rights.  

These parents are probably horrible people in all sorts of ways, but it's not child endangerment to speak one's mind about something that makes one unpopular, no matter whether you're a bigot or fighting against them.  

I'm also reading comments to the effect that the adult Hutchersons deserve whatever happens to them.  I don't know the extent of whatever harassment might have taken place, but the key thing is, they don't deserve any harassment.  They deserve criticism and possibly shunning and social disdain, but they don't deserve to be harassed, no matter how much they've done to foment harassment of others.

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Too much sympathy
All of you are worried about the "Good and Right" Reverend's children. GET OVER IT! I promise you if he could or for that matter if any of these "fundies" had the chance they would put the children of GLBT parents in a sack and throw them in the river right after burning the parents at the stake in the town square.

You better learn quick these people have to have the fight brought as close to home as possible. That mean's no more playing nice. I am personally FED UP with all of them and I'm not gonna take one ounce of bullshit from them any more.

If you use your kids as a shield, they're gonna take the bullet.

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. Hunter S.


No.
All of you are worried about the "Good and Right" Reverend's children. GET OVER IT!

Sorry.  I'm just not enough of an asshole to think that it's okay to do things that harm children.

I'm only a click away.


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