Anti-gay U.K. Anglicans' subtle marketing for new tome

Vvery weak attempt to legitimise homophobia

I find it fscinating that religious opponents of gay rights can only use discredited scientists and clinicians to support their contentions. Nicolsi, for goodness sake? Why not Cameron, whose date Nicolsi relies upon.

Psychiatry and psychology are by and large the only sciences that the church(S) in the 21st century feel free to disregard. Certainly , no other medical disciplines are treated the same. The reason is because both fields debunk the bases of the Church's favourite form of discrimination.

The cover is insulting, the authors cited are disgraced in the world of academe, and the book is likely to be the target of a Parliamentary investigation because of it's intent.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 10:12:17 AM CST

Here, here...

I'm insulted that my representation as a gay-man-in-distress is some mussed-hair sad sack in hobo rags. I'd never be seen going down on a man of the cloth dressed like that, and certainly not while one of his buddies is watching. Asshats.

Curses! My million dollar ideas foiled again: "God Bless Your Brand!" http://www.christvertising.com/

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by: TJ McFisty @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 11:13:19 AM CST

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Parliamentary Investigation

Why on earth would there be an investigation into this?

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

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by: Daimeon @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 14:20:22 PM CST

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Investigated because...

Hate speech and hate writing is illegal.
The matter gets higher profile as this is associated with Anglican scholars.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 18:34:53 PM CST

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God, Gays and Rembrandt?

What dolts!  They chose Rembrandt's "The Return of the Prodigal Son" for the cover?

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by: aerdrie @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 12:53:00 PM CST

The Cover

Unfortunate though it is, I don't think the choice for the cover of this book is sly marketing, or insulting, just a hilariously misconceived marketing ploy, as is Burroway's point.  The painting is Rembrandt's The Return of the Prodigal Son, and is meant to represent the return of sinners, in this instance gays, to the Christian fold.  That to me is more insulting than the rags on the supplicant, or his position in front of his father, but what do you expect from such a source?  Obviously they're clueless.

If it's any consolation, most Anglicans in the U.K. are highly embarressed at the public spectacle the American and African branches of the Communion are making of what is to most a very private matter, their faith and relationship to the Church.  That being said, there are debates that need to be had, and I would only wish Rowan Williams were as brave on the subject of homosexuality and faith as he has been recently on the subject of Sharia in Britain.  But that's the perennial problem when you get people of his intellectual prowess in positions of authority, they become political.  

I will buy this book, then decide where it fits in the debate.

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by: Brian @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 13:01:28 PM CST

apparently british anglicans are also embarressed

of rowan atkinson.  he really put his foot in it recently when he made a statement that the country should entertain sharia law.  i believe what he really meant was where sharia law doesn't conflict with british law, then why not let people follow it.  but he ham-handed the proposition so badly that people though he was condoning a 2-tier legal system: sharia for those who follow it, british codified and common law for those who don't.  gee, did he think in this day and age that people would listen calmly and carefully to his whole discussion, rather than rush to rash conclusions about what he meant?  what a dolt!  

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by: Lurleen @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 13:12:59 PM CST

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Dolt?

Not really.  Naive, perhaps.  He seems to be under the delusion that there are still people out there who can think for themselves without the tabloids doing it for them.  He comes from a different era and mindset when people actually read round the whole subject before making an intelligent and well-informed judgement.  Anybody who read what he actually said would see that you are right, Lurleen, and that he only suggested what already exists, that is Sharia councils arbitrating domestic disputes without resorting to the courts of the land, much as Jewish councils presently do.  But sheeple read Sharia and saw a threat.  Williams just didn't count on the stupidity of the general public.

Rowan Atkinson is a comedian.  Rowan Williams is the Archbishop of Canterbury.

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by: Brian @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 14:44:24 PM CST

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arg, i'm always mixing up the names.

sorry!  

i think that rowan williams has been around a long time, and seen a lot.  if he is still naive, i would be shocked.  maybe the better term is out of touch?  but again, if that is the case given his age, experience and recent events involving the church and world religious movements, it is something between a pathetic and frightening to conclude.  

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by: Lurleen @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 14:57:20 PM CST

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Rowan Williams

has "archbishop-itis", a more aggravated form of the common inability to communicate clearly that seems to involve a significant percentage of bishops.

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by: NancyP @ Wed Feb 13, 2008 at 14:06:41 PM CST

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Interesting

What did you find unclear about his speech?

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by: Brian @ Wed Feb 13, 2008 at 16:27:09 PM CST

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As the tittle shows...

Gayness is next to Godliness, and the church comes in last place.  Not a very well-thought-out title.

If these "religious" put one tenth the effort into helping humanity as they do demonizing GLBT people, we would be living in a paradise that would make Eden look like a slum.

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by: Storm @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 15:22:16 PM CST

"Unexpected consequences: the Sexualisation of Youth"

... unless 'youth' means 'children' (where it usually means 'teens')... since when is sexualization UNEXPECTED in that age group???

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by: CathyG @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 16:34:47 PM CST

Alternate title for that cover:

I Like to Watch

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by: Pollyanna @ Tue Feb 12, 2008 at 17:05:54 PM CST

Advice for Clergy. Philip Pullman was right.

* Pastoral Considerations for Homosexuality: We're not all your flock; stop treating everyone like livestock.
* Post-Gay: The Transforming Power of God: Prove it (you will have a hard embarrassing job and see a LOT of self-hatred).
* Post-Lesbian: My Testimony. Sorry, women flip back and forth more than men; try 'post-sexual'.
* Same Sex Attraction. Is it innate and immutable? Maybe not but sexuality is and since there's not correct sexual expression, the idea of removing or exchanging it is pointless.
* A Faithful Church: The Bible and Same-Sex Sex. Try the Bible on shellfish, slavery or polygamy. Then shut up.
* Civil Partnerships: Advice to UK Parishes and Clergy. Not your business and never should be. Back to your beads.
* Unexpected Consequences: The Sexualisation of Youth. or 'When I was 12, I could get horny pumping up the tyres on my bike." Could someone get these weirdos away from my healthy libido.

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by: steerpike66 @ Wed Feb 13, 2008 at 01:40:33 AM CST