Will the Log Cabin Republicans saddle up with McCain?

Only If He Slaps Their Haunches and Cries "Yippie Ti-Yi-Yay!"

I don't know how to answer your question, though I acknowledge its legitimacy.  My problem with Log Cabin Republicans is that by definition they are gay, and the term, "gay Republican" is, or ought to be, an oxymoron.  Obviously, by use of the log cabin metaphor, they're invoking that greatest of Republican leaders, Mr. A. Lincoln, who, legend has it, was born in such a structure.  And, of course, thanks to C. A. Tripp (The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln), we have some evidence Honest Abe was actually gay (or at least bi).

The problem is, the modern Republican Party is so homophobic that identifying with them would seem at best internalized homophobia; at worst, a form of sadomasochism.  You note that McCain is anti-same sex marriage and pro-Don't Ask Don't Tell.  Hey, McCain is supposed to be a maverick, a moderate, and it's true he's pissed off the right wingnut and theocratic elements in that party.  Some neocon GOPS even threaten to vote for Hillary, which raises another reason why none of the sexual minorities should even speculate on voting Republican: GOP misogyny.

Look at their blonde bimbo pundits (Poltergeist, the Dragon Lady, and Laura Gam), all sex objects, the kind of women Fox Noise loves to flash on background screens during moralistic diatribes by Bill O'Really.  These are the type women who have inflatable shoulder pads sewn into their blouses so they don't harm themselves when they wag their heads and sasy, "I don't know!"  Speaking of misogyny (which isn't a GOP monopoly, as witness Chrissy Matthews), there is no more misogynistic person in media than Lush Rambo.  Not only are all liberated women "feminazis," he once claimed that the only females who belonged to N.O.W. were "lesbians."

An old adage has it that one is known by the company one keeps.  Seems to me the Log Cabin Republicans keep very bad  company indeed.  If you don't believe it, read David Brock's Blinded by the Right.  He was deeply closeted when he went to work as a journalistic attack dog for Richard Mellon Schaife and other neocon right wingnut types, publishing, among other things, a hatchet job on Anita Hill.  When he finally wised up (after researching Hillary and finding no dirt) and came out publicly, his pals in the Republican Party dumped him like the proverbial hot potato.  Party invitations stopped coming.  People quit speaking to him.  

Quaere: Why would anyone want to join an organization that has a long history of homophobia, an organization that shits on them?

Against stupidity, even the angels fight in vain. --Schiller

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by: jmmartin @ Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 19:07:46 PM CST

join an organization that has a long history of homophobia?

"Quaere: Why would anyone want to join an organization that has a long history of homophobia, an organization that shits on them?"

If you follow that rationale, gays would have never joined up with Democrats.  African Americans would not have done so either as the most hardened segregationists were Dems.  Trans people would have certainly never joined predominantly gay organizations. Change starts somewhere.

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by: arsenalchick @ Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 20:20:55 PM CST

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they need to endorse him BIG TIME

they need to don their fluffiest pink pin stripe suits and their gayest wing tips and sing out praises of their john 4 part harmony.  as deb price has outlined, mccain has demonstrated a true measure of gay friendliness.  thus, adulatory, go-johnny-go cheerleading from the log lads is completely believable to anyone, and completely vomitous to the religious right.  so the best thing the cabinettes can do for us all is to loudly and visibly climb aboard mccain's "straight" talk express.

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by: Lurleen @ Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 19:24:31 PM CST

The LRC's will find a way to be good cheerleaders

In 2004, after spending months registering gay and Lesbian voters and writing op-ed about the need for change before Bush et all mired us deeper in Irq and took the stitching out of the economy, I sat in a G/L club to watch the returns. I had to listen to the cheering of the LRC's(all gay men, I've yet to meet a Lesbian LRC, though there are probably a few) dancing around shouting "my guy won" and glorying in the illusion that Bush wold recognize them as separate from those "lefty liberal Lesbians"

They would probably find a way to cheer on Huckabee were he not an economic populist. They will certainly screech in support of McCain

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Sat Feb 16, 2008 at 20:16:37 PM CST

I suspect the LCR

is a much smaller group than it once was.

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by: onthesea @ Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:56:07 AM CST

McCain Supported the failed Arizona

Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

And this year the Republicans have introduced another gay-marriage-ban bill that will probably be on the ballot in November.

I'm sure that McCain will endores it, also.

These phoney "moderate" Republicans (including Ron Paul) are just as much in favor of persecuting gays as the "conservative" ones, they just want the persecution to be done by the State government, not the "federal" government.

Jim Kolbe - the "gay Republican" - is campaigning for Tim Bee, the guy who introduced that gay-marriage-ban bill this year.

The LCR aren't even a joke - they are just pathetic masochists

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by: tiponeill @ Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 10:50:25 AM CST

Not significantly worse than Hillary

Before I go any further, full disclosure: I'm a tentative supporter of Barack Obama...

That being said... How are McCain's antigay policies substantially different from Hillary Clinton's?

1. She explicitly opposes gay marriage.

2. Her husband signed DOMA, and she supports it. She supports "states' rights."

3. Her husband co-authored DADT, and she has neither the passion nor the political and military capital that are required to reverse it.

4. Clinton approved war in Iraq for political reasons despite intelligence to the contrary, and she will not apologize. Nor does she offer a specific or short-term withdrawal plan.

The most that Clinton will offer GLBT people are, possibly, minor expansions of antidiscrimination and hate-crime laws (certainly nothing to protect T people, and possibly with exemptions for religious extremists).

Sadly, Obama seems to be no better than Clinton on gay issues. His #1 asset is his ability as a vocal liberal Christian to discredit the fake Christian values of the religious right and unite the country behind centrist policies. 

The LCR consists of pragmatists who value federal fiscal discipline and small government above all else, and let's be honest, that's what upsets gay progressives. If we're going to criticize McCain, we owe it to ourselves to be honest about Clinton: She's no gay civil-rights hero.

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by: beltwaymike @ Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 11:58:10 AM CST

Completely untrue

Not that Hillary (or Obama) are willing to go all the way and support the rights of gays to marry - but in every other respect the Republicans are virulently anti-gay and the Dems are not.

The Repubs oppose anti-discrimination laws, oppose allowing gays to serve in the military, any form of civil unions and most importantly oppose the Supreme Court decision that prevents gays from being thrown in jail.

One more Republican President appointing a S.C. Justice and Scalia can have his way and overturn Lawrence V. Texas and we can go back to arresting gays in bars - the good old days for "small government" republicans.

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by: tiponeill @ Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 14:19:50 PM CST

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"This Republican Party of Lincoln has become a party of theocracy."

"This Republican Party of Lincoln has become a party of theocracy."
U.S. Representative Christopher Shays, R-CT, (New York Times 3/23/05)

"The Grand Old Party is more religious cult than political organization."
President of the Alamo City Republican Women's club, 1993

http://theocracywatch.org/

The above quotes epitomize what has happened to a major US political party and in large part why we find our country locked in a downward religious fanatic spiral.

While I have a really hard time understanding how any GLBT American can support the Republican Party. A party which has so clearly been hijacked by, what NBA player Charles Barkley recently described as "fake christians", those who would rather gleefully see us roast in the fires of hell than allow us access to our constitutional rights.

To their credit, in the best possible light, I allow myself to see the position of the LCR, I can only assume they are fighting to take back their party from the social conservative taliban like element that has so tragically become the Republican Party. Kudos to them for sticking it out and trying to change their party in that respect.

But even if they do have any arguable positive effect in the area of  equal rights, it will still be a matter of the fiscal conservative mindset and agenda of the Republican Party to hand over our great nation to the "never satisfied", "bleed em dry", "bottom line at all costs" corporate interests. The mindset that has taken us directly down this dark path of war, decreasing access to basic health care, declining education opportunities, lack of affordable housing, increasing vulnerability to terrorism, and so on.

We need change and we need it now!

   

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by: goddesspdx @ Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 14:09:13 PM CST