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Keith Olbermann hits hard on the Ferraro debacle

by: Pam Spaulding

Wed Mar 12, 2008 at 23:00:00 PM EDT


Thank you Keith. He used his Special Comment tonight to address this comment by 1984 VP nominee and former Clinton 2008 finance committee member Geraldine Ferraro:
If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.

I discussed at length why I thought the Clinton campaign's seeming death wish for their candidate and the party here. That campaign is so off the rails, so off message, awash in campaign tactics of yesteryear, the good-old-boy strategies that push buttons that make people jerk to toward that third rail of race -- a place of extreme discomfort for most Americans of any color.

For more background if you haven't watched the whole video, Ferraro went on a barnstorming media tour to defend her remarks, which only resulted in the emergence of past instances of saying much the same thing before (so it wasn't off the cuff), something Keith addresses in full. MSNBC:

Pam Spaulding :: Keith Olbermann hits hard on the Ferraro debacle
After that didn't seem to quell the press attention on the matter, she threw in the towel.
Geraldine Ferraro has stepped down from her role as a member of Hillary Clinton's finance committee.

In a letter to Clinton obtained by CNN's Suzanne Malveaux - who spoke with the former vice presidential candidate shortly after she sent it to Clinton - Ferraro said she is stepping down so, "I can speak for myself and you can continue to speak for yourself about what is at stake in this campaign."

...When asked if she had any regrets about what she said, Ferraro replied, "absolutely not."

Clinton's response:
I said yesterday that I rejected what she said, and I certainly do repudiate it, and regret deeply that it was said. Obviously she doesn't speak from the campaign, she doesn't speak for any of my positions, and she has resigned from being a member of my very large finance committee.
Interestingly, though a lot of this race has been dancing around race card issues, primarily through surrogates, Obama himself hasn't discussed his race much at all -- it seems everyone else is more than willing to use a tattered political playbook that always worked in the past, but seems more divisive and, quite frankly increasingly embarrassing now. He commented on Ferraro's statement:
He said Ferraro's remarks had been "ridiculous" and "divisive," but he also described his own wariness about allegations. (Obama aides said yesterday that Axelrod hadn't meant to refer to a pattern of racially-charged remarks, but just of negative attacks, though many of his examples have been seen as having a racial edge.)

"I don't like to throw out words like 'racist,'" Obama said. "I would defy anybody to look though the rhetoric for the last year-and-a-half or the last year and a couple months to find one instance in which I have said some criticism of me was racially based."

He did, however, accuse the Clinton campaign of slicing up the electorate along racial lines. He noted that Clinton's aides -- notably Mark Penn -- have told reporters on conference calls that part of her strength lies in her ability to win traditional swing-voting groups, working class whites and Hispanics.

Clinton's aides, Obama said, say "there are a set of voters that Obama might not get." He said "that seems to track in a certain racial demographic."

He also joked, as he has before, that he's been challenged as both too black and as not black enough.

"I don't know what exactly [is] the margin of black vote that is the optimal -- not too black, but black enough," he said.

All that said, the reason a lot of this is making people uncomfortable -- and this is particularly hard for progressives to accept -- is that the third rail of race has everyone all tied up in knots and tense. It's complicated by the competing issue of gender bias and outright misogyny rolling off the tongues of talking heads.

Heaven help those of us who are women and of color -- I guess we are expected to pick and choose how to affiliate politically based on putting our fingers in the air).

We are so in need of candid discussion about fear-based campaigning based on the inherent biases we all have about race (and gender). We are manipulated by it, even as we reject the morality of using such tactics openly. We are ashamed that it works, but it is employed because it does.

What makes it difficult is that many white progressives as well as Republicans (for very different reasons) wanted to believe that we are in a "post-racial" society because it is easier to say it and hope we all nod our heads in agreement, a tacit agreement not to discuss what we all know to be an persistent and difficult arena fraught with conflict and discord.

Sadly, it's obvious that we are only playing whack-a-mole.

***

UPDATE: I crossposted this at Pandagon (edited to include Kathy's question and my response), and received some comments there that I'm adding to this post for discussion.

From two Pandagon exchanges:

You'll find no denial of the continuing, but often hidden, racism of the US public from me. I'm a white man but have seen enough to convince me that that racism is all over the place. I'd like to think that what Ferraro said would hurt the Clinton campaign but I am not sure it will- lots of people I talk to seem to agree with her. It may have even been an effective tactic. I guess we will have to wait and see.

My reply:
[F]or those who agree with Ferraro (about an advantage for Obama being black), do you ever think they would consider what I said in my earlier post -

* If Clinton were a black man, Hillary would have been told to drop out of the race after losing 11 contests in a row, after all, John Edwards had to get out after losing only 3.

* If Obama were white, he'd already be the nominee, because it's pretty clear that while there are blacks voting for him because of his race, there are certain demographic groups who didn't vote for him because he's black, and those are the Reagan Democrats that Hillary is chasing.

The real loser here is truth-telling - the inability of Americans to find some way to sanely discuss race when it's not a pot boiling over on the stove.

***

The poll on CNN has had Ferraro questions for the last two days. 55% of respondents agree with her and don't think she should apologize. That tells you all you need to know about why this was done and why this isn't going away.

My reply:
Yep. And that's the third rail no one wants to touch - that there are many out there who do agree, and that Clinton strategists know full well how to use the inherent biases out there that can be leveraged. These folks have been weaned on race-based campaigning because it works.

When the issue of the use of these tactics is questioned, it then raises the spectre of what "racist" is or isn't. Because something works, certainly doesn't make it right, but these are people who make a living based on trying to make their candidate the victor. You know, it's just politics.

The question our society should ask, particularly Democrats who desperately don't want to believe or discuss that their party is capable of such things, is at what cost do we enable this to continue by not examining the root problem of all of this because it makes people queasy.

It's hard to sell the idea of the emergence a "post-racial" era when this stuff crops up, particularly for progressives who think this is only the kind of thing the GOP does.

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Olberman was right on target
I agree with 95% of what he said.

Clinton really needs to hold a press conference on this issue and this issue alone.  And she needs to do it very, very soon.  This is a deal breaker for me, and I'm a Clinton delegate.

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More to ponder...
On a related issue, I was struck by Hardball's number for tonight which said that 24% of Clinton votes in Mississippi came from Republicans.  I was suprised and, not believing everything I see on TV, I did some searching.  Suprisingly, it does appear that 13% of the participants in the Democratic Primary were Republicans and that they overwhelmingly voted for Hillary making up that estimated 24% of her total vote.  Obviously these were not general cross-over votes like other states.

Now there are quite a few things to ponder about this.  First, does that many people buy into the insanity of Rush Limbaugh?  I guess that a rhetorical question.  Second, could you hazard a guess that those Republicans were mostly white?  Hmm...I think that would be a true statement.  If so, where some of those votes racially motivated?  Who knows.  Could be.  Could be just the influence of Rushy though.  Third, does this make the white Democrats less "racially divided"?  Since both Republican and Democrat whites got grouped together by the pundits and I've not seen them break the totals out like this, it would seem like Barack got a more respectable precentage of white Democrat vote than how it is being protrayed in the press.  And finally, just how many delegates would Obama have gotten without the Republican cross-over?  Generally, this wouldn't matter to me because I would think it would all work out evenly in the end for both candidates.  However, this number seems unusually high and something, either Rush or race, had something to do with it.

Just some thoughts to ponder.  But tying it back to the original post, this goes directly against what is being said about Barack only getting black votes.  He is running a good campaign and is getting respectable percentages of votes from white Democrats.  I don't know how much of the black vote is retaliation over some of the things that have come out of the Hillary camp or how much (if not all) is excitement over a black candidate.  So I can concede that he is getting help from the black vote.  But along the same lines, using Ferraro mentality (if that's possible), should Hillary thank Rush or bigoted Republicans for their help in her campaign.  Heck with those turn out numbers she might think of putting Rush on her staff.  Just Kidding.  It wouldn't make sense to me for Hillary to do that, just as Ferraro's comments that he gets help because he is black doesn't make sense to me.

P.S. - I don't like segregating people in groups of black and white, but I had to to make these points.  I've often joked with people (and of course someone will have a snide remark about this but I mean no harm) who comment that he is a black candidate, that I want to claim part of him because, you know, he is half white.  My point being, why can't we all claim him because he is an American.  Just as we should all be able to claim Hillary.  Of course, whoever wants to claim Rush, Bush, Cheney, and the far-right can go right ahead.        


Pam, I have to admit to some serious confusion here
I don't like the race-based or the gender-based attacks I've heard throughout this campaign.  However, from my perspective, it seems that a significant segment of the lefty blogosphere is eager to classify any mention of race as racist, while the nastiest sexist digs are dismissed or rationalized.  Obama is painted as a noble victim while Clinton is painted as a whiner.  (The reverse is certainly going on as well, and there are blogs that do their best to find a balance -- I think yours is one.)

While Obama certainly has overwhelming support in the blogosphere, the real world primary race remains close.  For a long time, every Clinton supporter I came across made it clear they would vote for either candidate in the general election, while there was a contingent of Obama supporters who threatened to take their ball and go home if he was not the nominee.  Now I'm starting to see a shift -- Clinton supporters are getting tired of being told they're too female and/or too old to be taken seriously.  I'm afraid of what will happen in November if the alienation on both sides continues.

Heaven help those of us who are women and of color -- I guess we are expected to pick and choose how to affiliate politically based on putting our fingers in the air).

God, I hate that this is happening.  I was so excited even as recently as Super Tuesday at the knowledge that our nominee, whether Clinton or Obama, would make history and break barriers.  Now I just want to stick my head in the sand until this ordeal is over.

"If the apocalypse comes... beep me." -- Buffy Summers


my long-winded thoughts on the disparity
a significant segment of the lefty blogosphere is eager to classify any mention of race as racist, while the nastiest sexist digs are dismissed or rationalized.

Sorry for the long response, Kathy. Somehow the thoughts came to me...

I can't speak for the lefty blogosphere, but I can tell you that I have been in conversations (on and offline) where there is extreme discomfort when the use of subtle or overt race-based campaign "strategy" is employed, as if the mere mention of it is beyond discussion because of the queasiness of calling out an elephant in the room, or rather, an under-discussed third rail (as I've called it before).

People jump to the conclusion that Obama supporters are oversensitive and see racial attacks in everything (for an example, see the whole "darkening of the ad" flap, which I did NOT blog about because I thought it was ridiculous - the whole ad was edited darker). That in many minds then extends to somehow there's no racially-based attacks going on.

Why? It has little or nothing specifically to do with Obama, in my opinion. As I've blogged ad nauseum here and at Pandagon outside of the topic of this election, I think the reason for that is that it is people do not want to be labeled or perceived as racist. PC society, unfortunately, has seemed to settle on a definition of a "racist" as someone akin to a KKK Knight Rider or Bull Connor, rather defining the term by behaviors exhibited by your average American (of any color) raised in a society where inherent biases have been cultivated and institutionalized.

That's how we get an extreme example of denial like Duane Chapman, aka Dog the Bounty Hunter. He was recorded making excuses to his son why the younger Chapman shouldn't date a black woman because it then means Dog cannot toss the word "nigger" around casually. ("I'm not going to take a chance ever in life for losing everything I've worked for for 30 years because some f**king n**er heard us say n***er and turned us into the Enquirer magazine"). These didn't happen in a vacuum -- both publicly claimed that they aren't racist.

As I said at the time:

It's as if her presence will cause Chapman to blow a gasket because in private, he'd have to watch what he says.  The more pointed question is why does he feel compelled to use "nigger" so casually -- he knows the connotations, the history, the vitriol behind the word. From his statements on the tape, it's clear he isn't using it as a term of endearment (the ludicrous excuse often cited by blacks as justification for tossing the denigrating word around). Dog isn't into self-reflection, it's everyone else that's not with the program.

Dog's dilemma is that he wants to project a public image of tolerance -- he may even have an honest sense that "racism" is wrong.  Remember, as defined in his minds of plenty of good people, when called on their ignorance-based racism, they usually cannot admit to themselves they are racist (see Michael Richards), even though are culture is steeped in it. A racist in their minds wears a Klan sheet, or hangs out in a white supremacist survivalist unit, they are not the person next door. "That couldn't possible be me," they say to soothe themselves.
In turn, that means the more subtle ways racism is employed, such as in this political campaign, can easily be shipped off to the land of denial. Calling it out doesn't mean equivalence of vitriol of a Dog, but that's how many whites feel when caught when their biases are exposed.

That's why the revelation of Ferraro having used this same race-based commentary before was the signal to cut her loose (or, rather for her to step aside) -- it meant the comments now sounded like they came from core beliefs, as opposed to a slip of the tongue.

Now, to address the phenomenon of the misogyny/gender bias that seems to grab much less attention, I think there are other factors at work. One, a very large swath of the country -- men and women -- have bought into and maintain the patriarchy. We're talking about a ship that is going to take a long time to turn around.

It's complicated by the fact that many women, as I said above, inhabit another minority group (racial or ethnic), or as, in my case three -- tossing in sexual minority. The dynamics involved in dealing with multiple levels of institutionalized oppression leads to different perceptions of (and importance of the weight of) gender bias tossed out there.

That diffuses the power of response because the shades of perceived slight range so greatly.

The other matter that seems to receive less focus is the fact that Hillary Clinton is a lightning rod for other issues, because of who she is, that piling on the misogyny often substitutes for the contempt they hold for her as a Clinton and her politics, not a woman.  That she's a woman only makes it easier for offensive comments to fly. I have often thought about whether the reactions in the lefty blogosphere to the misogyny would be different if we weren't talking about Hillary Clinton, but a more progressive, less polarizing figure without her DLC and "Bill baggage."


[ Parent ]
Pam, I'm glad you've brought up these sensitive issues
I liked what Kathy said and your response. As both Obama and Clinton continue to fight and fight, and their supporters push and push, governing issues have been all spoken about and these two "cards" seem to be the only things that will catch the headlines now. Pennsylvania's primary is April 22nd, and the news and print will, I fear, use these two very sensitive personal issues to get headlines at the expense of the Democratic party. For me, it's hard to stay focused on what the candidate's stance is. I just see mudslinging now, and John McCain sitting quietly choosing a VP. I can't help but think that it's hurting the image of the more "liberal" "inclusive" Democratic party to have such a understandably close race, at first, now over time to have this angry devisive one.

[ Parent ]
Pam, thanks for the thoughtful response
It beats the heck out of the feedback I received from a (white male) blogger who told me "we have nothing to talk about".  I'm afraid your response is not typical.  Maybe it doesn't matter here in the blogosphere, where most people seem to be Obama supporters, that Clinton supporters -- or even those who like both candidates -- are often dismissed out of hand.  I hope most Democrats out in the real world (and lots of swing voters) plan to vote for the party's candidate in November no matter who it is.  If not, we are in serious trouble.  

"The other matter that seems to receive less focus is the fact that Hillary Clinton is a lightning rod for other issues, because of who she is, that piling on the misogyny often substitutes for the contempt they hold for her as a Clinton and her politics, not a woman."

And here you put your finger right on the problem by providing an out for the people who make sexist comments about Clinton: it's not about generalized misogyny, it's just a shorthand they use because they don't like her.  I don't find that an acceptable excuse.  I have a preference for Clinton over Obama at this point (much of it based on her more progressive proposal for universal health coverage, among other things), but I would never dream of expressing my support for her and my reservations about him by using racial slurs.  My reservations have nothing to do with his race; however, if I used that kind of language as "shorthand", I would face legitimate accusations of racism.  Why should I give a pass to progressives who take sexist swipes at Clinton while claiming that it isn't her gender that's the problem?

I know full well we are not beyond racism in this country, and I think it's a great thing that progressives call it out.  Is it possible to do that without brushing aside legitimate concerns about sexism?  I'd like to think we could address both in tandem.  Oh well, this isn't the first time I've been guilty of naive idealism.

"If the apocalypse comes... beep me." -- Buffy Summers


[ Parent ]
So true so true
"And here you put your finger right on the problem by providing an out for the people who make sexist comments about Clinton: it's not about generalized misogyny, it's just a shorthand they use because they don't like her."
Sexism is alive and well in the US.
Whether or not it comes from someone in a campaign or not (see Jay comment below.....like sexist remark from Matthews doesn't count because he's not part of a campaign....)

[ Parent ]
Can you give some examples
of the sexist remarks you're referring to?


[ Parent ]
Here are a few that have been public and publicly reported
Jesse Jackson Jr. attributing Clinton's tears (which she didn't actually shed) to concern over her appearance, Obama commenting about her "periodically" feeling blue, Edwards advisor Mudcat Saunders on the Rachel Maddow Show saying she was too weak to face foreign threats because she choked up once in public, Chris Matthews' ongoing condescension, the whole "OMG, she's ambitious!" meme.  You can check out the archives at Shakesville to see documentation of this stuff (along with posts on the racist dogwhistles -- it's another blog that has made a concerted effort at balanced coverage).

"If the apocalypse comes... beep me." -- Buffy Summers

[ Parent ]
Well...
Periodically is sexist?

I can see your point about JJjr though I viewed it as him pointing out that she was a fraud not weak. However, I'm not going to say it wasn't sexist since that's not my place. I'm a black man.

Chris Matthews isn't part of the campaign so I don't think that counts unless we're going to count all of the racist drivel spouted by the pundits. But yes, the white male pundits are threatened by Clinton and they generally hate both Clintons. Or at least some of them do.

Edwards is also not part of the Obama campaign but that's certainly offensive.

Honestly from what you're showing me the stuff attributed to Obama's campaign isn't comparable in volume to the pattern of racist or racially-tinged comments coming out of the Clinton campaign.  


[ Parent ]
yes, "periodically" is sexist
to say a woman periodically gets blue is a direct reference to PMS.  she's on the rage.  she is one with the moon.  use whatever euphemism you want, that is what he meant.  

Lurleen on Twitter

[ Parent ]
Jay, I'm not trying to play "one oppression is worse than the other"
I'm saying they both exist and should both be challenged and called out by progressives.  I've seen a lot of outrage over racism in the progressive blogosphere and a lot of rationalizing away the sexism.  You just provided me with another example.

"If the apocalypse comes... beep me." -- Buffy Summers

[ Parent ]
clinton apologized...for several things
looks like when olbermann was on the air, clinton was already on her way to this forum to apologize for all the race-related mistakes by her campaign.  question is, will it be enough.  her apology could have been stronger, but it was an apology.  i don't think she has any wiggle room for more of these mistakes (if that is what they were).  imo, she is very close to being branded the racist candidate.  that would please part of the electorate, but drive away many more than it would please.

Lurleen on Twitter

Her apology, unfortunately but I'm sure intentionally,
was made in front of an audience that wasn't made up of the Archie Bunker types that she's targeting in PA, KY & WV. So IMO it's not very meaningful.

What she would need to do is go in front of those types and say that you shouldn't vote for me if the only reason is that you're voting against him because of his race.  


[ Parent ]
i see what you're saying, but...
if the injured parties are first and foremost black americans, i think it is entirely appropriate that she apologized to a large gathering of black americans.  but i agree that she needs to do the equivalent of obama taking black christians to task for homophobia in some of his speeches.  that is, she needs to confront racial bias in the white crowds she is addressing.  

Lurleen on Twitter

[ Parent ]
I agree
She should apologize to a gathering of Black Americans for sure. But it'd be nice if she stopped having to apologize. I'm not the forgive and forget type when it happens over and over. They want to treat us like abused family members. Hit ya and then say sorry and then hit ya again and then say sorry.


[ Parent ]
well, they both are having to apologize all the time,
so we all had better get used to it.  or they both need to clean up their act.

Lurleen on Twitter

[ Parent ]
I'd like to point out that in 2006 when asked about this very
issue Ferraro gave a very different take.

"I think it's more realistic for a woman than it is for an African-American," said Ms. Ferraro. "There is a certain amount of racism that exists in the United States - whether it's conscious or not it's true."

"Women are 51 percent of the population," she added.

source

Guess our society has changed a lot in those two years!


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