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Obama's speech on race, religion and reconciling difference

by: Pam Spaulding

Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:30:00 AM EDT


UPDATE: Here is the speech, "A More Perfect Union." The transcript is below the fold.

Barack Obama is in Philadelphia today, where he gave a speech about race, religion, and with it, cultural differences and perceptions. The dustup over the contentious comments by Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of Obama's church, who stepped down from his religion advisor role in  the campaign after inflammatory recorded comments of Wright's sermons surfaced cast a pall over the campaign -- and the Right ran with it.Much more below the fold.

Pam Spaulding :: Obama's speech on race, religion and reconciling difference

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

Barack Obama has to give this speech because he has sold himself as a uniter, a bridge builder and when you have someone like Wright connected to the campaign railing that Hillary Clinton didn't understand what it was like to be black, saying "Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a n-----," you have to cut them loose.

However, the message delivered is not a lie, it's true. She cannot know. Black men are too often bear the brunt of an unequal and unfair criminal justice system. In this case, the fiery, condemning delivery does nothing to address how people can come together in greater understanding and empathy -- I gather that wasn't the point of that particular sermon, but to allow the rage of injustice out from the pulpit to those who understand.

That said, people have to acknowledge part of the reason for the discomfort lies in Wright's delivery of the message. It's so black, isn't it? It sounds militant to tender ears outside the traditional black church. For that matter, it doesn't resemble the delivery of sermons in other denominations of black churches -- I was raised Episopalian, and those folks aren't the hooping and hollering types of congregations. That said, what does that all mean? If the same messages were delivered with a velvet glove, with less inflammatory language, would it generate the same reaction? I doubt it. But what does that mean in the bigger picture. I'm not sure. I think it requires more dialogue. Dialogue too many of us are afraid to engage in.

A message from Trinity United Church (Obama's house of worship), provides some insight on how the commentary about Wright's remarks are viewed on that side of the fence.

This came in my inbox:

Trinity United Church of Christ's ministry is inclusive and global. The following ministries have been developed under Dr. Wright's ministerial tutelage for social justice: assisted living facilities for senior citizens, day care for children, pastoral care and counseling, health care, ministries for persons living with HIV/AIDS, hospice training, prison ministry, scholarships for thousands of students to attend historically black colleges, youth ministries, tutorial and computer programs, a church library, domestic violence programs and scholarships and fellowships for women and men attending seminary.

Moss added, "The African American Church was born out of the crucible of slavery and the legacy of prophetic African American preachers since slavery has been and continues to heal broken marginalized victims of social and economic injustices. This is an attack on the legacy of the African American Church which led and continues to lead the fight for human rights in America and around the world."

Does that excuse conspiratorial remarks about the US government causing AIDS Wright has mentioned in past sermons? No, not really. But Wright wouldn't be the first person making that assertion without proof.

A larger question I have is why either campaign, or the GOP need to bring religion into any of this -- they aren't running to be a spiritual leader. Quite frankly, Democrats have been chasing the religious vote at their own peril -- take a look at the GOP. Its moderate wing was completely silenced by the party's decision to jump in bed with the radical right religious set. Fiery sermons with bigoted hateful remarks against Catholics (Hagee), LGBTs (just about all of the professional "Christian" set) were tolerated, endorsements not turned away. This is what happens when church, state and politics are conflated as essential to political ascent.

This isn't a call to ignore faith communities -- but a plea to put personal faith into proper context. It has no place in governing or politicking because it often has a toxic, misguided effect on people's ability to govern on behalf all citizens of different faiths, no faith at all, sexual orientation or race. Look at what we've seen come out of the mouth of Sally Kern over the last week. Need I say more?

But I want to turn the discussion back to race, because I think this episode with Rev. Wright exposed the whole "scary black revolution" primal fear here.

When I heard Wright, I heard a delivery not unlike the unhinged gay-bashing Rev. Willie Wilson (Wright is actually gay-affirming, btw). The delivery sounds so angry, so harsh to many. You get the feeling, based on the reaction out there, that people are afraid Barack Obama by association, is some sort of Trojan Horse of Black Anger waiting to be unleashed, prepared to exact revenge on white society by pulling their wool over their eyes by appearing friendly, "articulate" and non-threatening. In other words -- not that [Wright] kind of black guy. And it's why Obama had to politically cut him loose, and why he's giving this speech today.

politicalceci @ DKos asked some questions in a thread and precious few took her up on the offer to provide answers. They are questions I've asked in one way or another in various posts on race matters. As an exercise, take a crack at this modified list.

* Do you believe that political consultants use subtle and overt racism to score points because it works, and that the end justifies the means? Is that good for our society, or does it matter?

* Do you think that some white people are uncomfortable when race comes up in the presidential race, from either campaign or surrogates? Why?

* Do you think that the uncomfortability of discussions about racism and implicit bias causes a shutdown of honest dialog about it in the progressive movement?  

* Does the potential defensive reaction of blacks toward broaching the topic of race inhibit at all? What personal incidents inform that judgment - and is it fair to apply that to all black people?

* Does the fear of being perceived as racist or patronizing outweigh the benefits of addressing honest questions we have about the effect of race?

All of these questions, of course, can be applied to gender as well, but for the sake of staying on topic, let's try to stay within the boundaries of race in order to make this more pointed, and less comparative. Doing so makes it more difficult because you have to dig deeper in thinking through answers. It's easy to try to measure our problems with race, gender or sexual orientation against one another as if it's an oppression Olympics. That's not the point of the questions -- it's to reveal how race, in this case, has an impact of its own on all of us.

***

Brent Childers of Faith in America notes how the media has spent much attention on Rev. Wright to the exclusion of many of the same leaders we've seen Bush cozy up to who have delivered caustic messages.

Over and over again, listeners have heard Wright's words; God damns America.  At first it is reasonable to assume most Americans would recoil from such words coming from the pulpit.  The particular interest in this pulpit is that a presidential candidate sits in front of it.

Only in recent memory, consider how many times the Religious Right, from its pulpits, has stated that America is damned because of policies aimed at protecting gay and lesbian Americans from hate crimes and discrimination? How long have Americans, former presidential contenders and presidents sat in front of that pulpit?

It is not mere coincidence that this story was brought to our attention by the Fox News network, a media outlet that is perceived by many to carry water for the Religious Right.  What is indeed shocking is how the mainstream media seemed blindsided by the story by first trying to ignore it and then falling right in line with Fox News in reporting on this as a story that has grave consequences for Obama and the Democrats.

This shows how far out of touch the mainstream media is with mainstream America.  Even more disappointing is how far out of touch the mainstream media is when it comes to confronting the Religious Right's spin machine and thinly veiled bigotry.

As long as religion is used by either side in the political realm to divide --  no matter the message or method of delivery -- we all lose.

***

Here is the full text of Obama's speech:

"We the people, in order to form a more perfect union."

Two hundred and twenty one years ago, in a hall that still stands across the street, a group of men gathered and, with these simple words, launched America's improbable experiment in democracy. Farmers and scholars; statesmen and patriots who had traveled across an ocean to escape tyranny and persecution finally made real their declaration of independence at a Philadelphia convention that lasted through the spring of 1787.

The document they produced was eventually signed but ultimately unfinished. It was stained by this nation's original sin of slavery, a question that divided the colonies and brought the convention to a stalemate until the founders chose to allow the slave trade to continue for at least twenty more years, and to leave any final resolution to future generations.

Of course, the answer to the slavery question was already embedded within our Constitution - a Constitution that had at is very core the ideal of equal citizenship under the law; a Constitution that promised its people liberty, and justice, and a union that could be and should be perfected over time.

And yet words on a parchment would not be enough to deliver slaves from bondage, or provide men and women of every color and creed their full rights and obligations as citizens of the United States. What would be needed were Americans in successive generations who were willing to do their part - through protests and struggle, on the streets and in the courts, through a civil war and civil disobedience and always at great risk - to narrow that gap between the promise of our ideals and the reality of their time.

This was one of the tasks we set forth at the beginning of this campaign - to continue the long march of those who came before us, a march for a more just, more equal, more free, more caring and more prosperous America. I chose to run for the presidency at this moment in history because I believe deeply that we cannot solve the challenges of our time unless we solve them together - unless we perfect our union by understanding that we may have different stories, but we hold common hopes; that we may not look the same and we may not have come from the same place, but we all want to move in the same direction - towards a better future for of children and our grandchildren.

This belief comes from my unyielding faith in the decency and generosity of the American people. But it also comes from my own American story.

I am the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. I was raised with the help of a white grandfather who survived a Depression to serve in Patton's Army during World War II and a white grandmother who worked on a bomber assembly line at Fort Leavenworth while he was overseas. I've gone to some of the best schools in America and lived in one of the world's poorest nations. I am married to a black American who carries within her the blood of slaves and slaveowners - an inheritance we pass on to our two precious daughters. I have brothers, sisters, nieces, nephews, uncles and cousins, of every race and every hue, scattered across three continents, and for as long as I live, I will never forget that in no other country on Earth is my story even possible.

It's a story that hasn't made me the most conventional candidate. But it is a story that has seared into my genetic makeup the idea that this nation is more than the sum of its parts - that out of many, we are truly one.

Throughout the first year of this campaign, against all predictions to the contrary, we saw how hungry the American people were for this message of unity. Despite the temptation to view my candidacy through a purely racial lens, we won commanding victories in states with some of the whitest populations in the country. In South Carolina, where the Confederate Flag still flies, we built a powerful coalition of African Americans and white Americans.

This is not to say that race has not been an issue in the campaign. At various stages in the campaign, some commentators have deemed me either "too black" or "not black enough." We saw racial tensions bubble to the surface during the week before the South Carolina primary. The press has scoured every exit poll for the latest evidence of racial polarization, not just in terms of white and black, but black and brown as well.

And yet, it has only been in the last couple of weeks that the discussion of race in this campaign has taken a particularly divisive turn.

On one end of the spectrum, we've heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it's based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap. On the other end, we've heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation; that rightly offend white and black alike.

I have already condemned, in unequivocal terms, the statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy. For some, nagging questions remain. Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely - just as I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.

But the remarks that have caused this recent firestorm weren't simply controversial. They weren't simply a religious leader's effort to speak out against perceived injustice. Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country - a view that sees white racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful ideologies of radical Islam.

As such, Reverend Wright's comments were not only wrong but divisive, divisive at a time when we need unity; racially charged at a time when we need to come together to solve a set of monumental problems - two wars, a terrorist threat, a falling economy, a chronic health care crisis and potentially devastating climate change; problems that are neither black or white or Latino or Asian, but rather problems that confront us all.

Given my background, my politics, and my professed values and ideals, there will no doubt be those for whom my statements of condemnation are not enough. Why associate myself with Reverend Wright in the first place, they may ask? Why not join another church? And I confess that if all that I knew of Reverend Wright were the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube, or if Trinity United Church of Christ conformed to the caricatures being peddled by some commentators, there is no doubt that I would react in much the same way

But the truth is, that isn't all that I know of the man. The man I met more than twenty years ago is a man who helped introduce me to my Christian faith, a man who spoke to me about our obligations to love one another; to care for the sick and lift up the poor. He is a man who served his country as a U.S. Marine; who has studied and lectured at some of the finest universities and seminaries in the country, and who for over thirty years led a church that serves the community by doing God's work here on Earth - by housing the homeless, ministering to the needy, providing day care services and scholarships and prison ministries, and reaching out to those suffering from HIV/AIDS.

In my first book, Dreams From My Father, I described the experience of my first service at Trinity:

"People began to shout, to rise from their seats and clap and cry out, a forceful wind carrying the reverend's voice up into the rafters....And in that single note - hope! - I heard something else; at the foot of that cross, inside the thousands of churches across the city, I imagined the stories of ordinary black people merging with the stories of David and Goliath, Moses and Pharaoh, the Christians in the lion's den, Ezekiel's field of dry bones. Those stories - of survival, and freedom, and hope - became our story, my story; the blood that had spilled was our blood, the tears our tears; until this black church, on this bright day, seemed once more a vessel carrying the story of a people into future generations and into a larger world. Our trials and triumphs became at once unique and universal, black and more than black; in chronicling our journey, the stories and songs gave us a means to reclaim memories that we didn't need to feel shame about...memories that all people might study and cherish - and with which we could start to rebuild."

That has been my experience at Trinity. Like other predominantly black churches across the country, Trinity embodies the black community in its entirety - the doctor and the welfare mom, the model student and the former gang-banger. Like other black churches, Trinity's services are full of raucous laughter and sometimes bawdy humor. They are full of dancing, clapping, screaming and shouting that may seem jarring to the untrained ear. The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America.

And this helps explain, perhaps, my relationship with Reverend Wright. As imperfect as he may be, he has been like family to me. He strengthened my faith, officiated my wedding, and baptized my children. Not once in my conversations with him have I heard him talk about any ethnic group in derogatory terms, or treat whites with whom he interacted with anything but courtesy and respect. He contains within him the contradictions - the good and the bad - of the community that he has served diligently for so many years.

I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.

These people are a part of me. And they are a part of America, this country that I love.

Some will see this as an attempt to justify or excuse comments that are simply inexcusable. I can assure you it is not. I suppose the politically safe thing would be to move on from this episode and just hope that it fades into the woodwork. We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.

But race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now. We would be making the same mistake that Reverend Wright made in his offending sermons about America - to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality.

The fact is that the comments that have been made and the issues that have surfaced over the last few weeks reflect the complexities of race in this country that we've never really worked through - a part of our union that we have yet to perfect. And if we walk away now, if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like health care, or education, or the need to find good jobs for every American.

Understanding this reality requires a reminder of how we arrived at this point. As William Faulkner once wrote, "The past isn't dead and buried. In fact, it isn't even past." We do not need to recite here the history of racial injustice in this country. But we do need to remind ourselves that so many of the disparities that exist in the African-American community today can be directly traced to inequalities passed on from an earlier generation that suffered under the brutal legacy of slavery and Jim Crow.

Segregated schools were, and are, inferior schools; we still haven't fixed them, fifty years after Brown v. Board of Education, and the inferior education they provided, then and now, helps explain the pervasive achievement gap between today's black and white students.

Legalized discrimination - where blacks were prevented, often through violence, from owning property, or loans were not granted to African-American business owners, or black homeowners could not access FHA mortgages, or blacks were excluded from unions, or the police force, or fire departments - meant that black families could not amass any meaningful wealth to bequeath to future generations. That history helps explain the wealth and income gap between black and white, and the concentrated pockets of poverty that persists in so many of today's urban and rural communities.

A lack of economic opportunity among black men, and the shame and frustration that came from not being able to provide for one's family, contributed to the erosion of black families - a problem that welfare policies for many years may have worsened. And the lack of basic services in so many urban black neighborhoods - parks for kids to play in, police walking the beat, regular garbage pick-up and building code enforcement - all helped create a cycle of violence, blight and neglect that continue to haunt us.

This is the reality in which Reverend Wright and other African-Americans of his generation grew up. They came of age in the late fifties and early sixties, a time when segregation was still the law of the land and opportunity was systematically constricted. What's remarkable is not how many failed in the face of discrimination, but rather how many men and women overcame the odds; how many were able to make a way out of no way for those like me who would come after them.

But for all those who scratched and clawed their way to get a piece of the American Dream, there were many who didn't make it - those who were ultimately defeated, in one way or another, by discrimination. That legacy of defeat was passed on to future generations - those young men and increasingly young women who we see standing on street corners or languishing in our prisons, without hope or prospects for the future. Even for those blacks who did make it, questions of race, and racism, continue to define their worldview in fundamental ways. For the men and women of Reverend Wright's generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years. That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians, to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician's own failings.

And occasionally it finds voice in the church on Sunday morning, in the pulpit and in the pews. The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright's sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning. That anger is not always productive; indeed, all too often it distracts attention from solving real problems; it keeps us from squarely facing our own complicity in our condition, and prevents the African-American community from forging the alliances it needs to bring about real change. But the anger is real; it is powerful; and to simply wish it away, to condemn it without understanding its roots, only serves to widen the chasm of misunderstanding that exists between the races.

In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience - as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time.

Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren't always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism.

Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze - a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns - this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

This is where we are right now. It's a racial stalemate we've been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naïve as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy - particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.

But I have asserted a firm conviction - a conviction rooted in my faith in God and my faith in the American people - that working together we can move beyond some of our old racial wounds, and that in fact we have no choice is we are to continue on the path of a more perfect union.

For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life. But it also means binding our particular grievances - for better health care, and better schools, and better jobs - to the larger aspirations of all Americans -- the white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the white man whose been laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his family. And it means taking full responsibility for own lives - by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny.

Ironically, this quintessentially American - and yes, conservative - notion of self-help found frequent expression in Reverend Wright's sermons. But what my former pastor too often failed to understand is that embarking on a program of self-help also requires a belief that society can change.

The profound mistake of Reverend Wright's sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It's that he spoke as if our society was static; as if no progress has been made; as if this country - a country that has made it possible for one of his own members to run for the highest office in the land and build a coalition of white and black; Latino and Asian, rich and poor, young and old -- is still irrevocably bound to a tragic past. But what we know -- what we have seen - is that America can change. That is true genius of this nation. What we have already achieved gives us hope - the audacity to hope - for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination - and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past - are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds - by investing in our schools and our communities; by enforcing our civil rights laws and ensuring fairness in our criminal justice system; by providing this generation with ladders of opportunity that were unavailable for previous generations. It requires all Americans to realize that your dreams do not have to come at the expense of my dreams; that investing in the health, welfare, and education of black and brown and white children will ultimately help all of America prosper.

In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world's great religions demand - that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother's keeper, Scripture tells us. Let us be our sister's keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well.

For we have a choice in this country. We can accept a politics that breeds division, and conflict, and cynicism. We can tackle race only as spectacle - as we did in the OJ trial - or in the wake of tragedy, as we did in the aftermath of Katrina - or as fodder for the nightly news. We can play Reverend Wright's sermons on every channel, every day and talk about them from now until the election, and make the only question in this campaign whether or not the American people think that I somehow believe or sympathize with his most offensive words. We can pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card, or we can speculate on whether white men will all flock to John McCain in the general election regardless of his policies.

We can do that.

But if we do, I can tell you that in the next election, we'll be talking about some other distraction. And then another one. And then another one. And nothing will change.

That is one option. Or, at this moment, in this election, we can come together and say, "Not this time." This time we want to talk about the crumbling schools that are stealing the future of black children and white children and Asian children and Hispanic children and Native American children. This time we want to reject the cynicism that tells us that these kids can't learn; that those kids who don't look like us are somebody else's problem. The children of America are not those kids, they are our kids, and we will not let them fall behind in a 21st century economy. Not this time.

This time we want to talk about how the lines in the Emergency Room are filled with whites and blacks and Hispanics who do not have health care; who don't have the power on their own to overcome the special interests in Washington, but who can take them on if we do it together.

This time we want to talk about the shuttered mills that once provided a decent life for men and women of every race, and the homes for sale that once belonged to Americans from every religion, every region, every walk of life. This time we want to talk about the fact that the real problem is not that someone who doesn't look like you might take your job; it's that the corporation you work for will ship it overseas for nothing more than a profit.

This time we want to talk about the men and women of every color and creed who serve together, and fight together, and bleed together under the same proud flag. We want to talk about how to bring them home from a war that never should've been authorized and never should've been waged, and we want to talk about how we'll show our patriotism by caring for them, and their families, and giving them the benefits they have earned.

I would not be running for President if I didn't believe with all my heart that this is what the vast majority of Americans want for this country. This union may never be perfect, but generation after generation has shown that it can always be perfected. And today, whenever I find myself feeling doubtful or cynical about this possibility, what gives me the most hope is the next generation - the young people whose attitudes and beliefs and openness to change have already made history in this election.

There is one story in particularly that I'd like to leave you with today - a story I told when I had the great honor of speaking on Dr. King's birthday at his home church, Ebenezer Baptist, in Atlanta.

There is a young, twenty-three year old white woman named Ashley Baia who organized for our campaign in Florence, South Carolina. She had been working to organize a mostly African-American community since the beginning of this campaign, and one day she was at a roundtable discussion where everyone went around telling their story and why they were there.

And Ashley said that when she was nine years old, her mother got cancer. And because she had to miss days of work, she was let go and lost her health care. They had to file for bankruptcy, and that's when Ashley decided that she had to do something to help her mom.

She knew that food was one of their most expensive costs, and so Ashley convinced her mother that what she really liked and really wanted to eat more than anything else was mustard and relish sandwiches. Because that was the cheapest way to eat.

She did this for a year until her mom got better, and she told everyone at the roundtable that the reason she joined our campaign was so that she could help the millions of other children in the country who want and need to help their parents too.

Now Ashley might have made a different choice. Perhaps somebody told her along the way that the source of her mother's problems were blacks who were on welfare and too lazy to work, or Hispanics who were coming into the country illegally. But she didn't. She sought out allies in her fight against injustice.

Anyway, Ashley finishes her story and then goes around the room and asks everyone else why they're supporting the campaign. They all have different stories and reasons. Many bring up a specific issue. And finally they come to this elderly black man who's been sitting there quietly the entire time. And Ashley asks him why he's there. And he does not bring up a specific issue. He does not say health care or the economy. He does not say education or the war. He does not say that he was there because of Barack Obama. He simply says to everyone in the room, "I am here because of Ashley."

"I'm here because of Ashley." By itself, that single moment of recognition between that young white girl and that old black man is not enough. It is not enough to give health care to the sick, or jobs to the jobless, or education to our children.

But it is where we start. It is where our union grows stronger. And as so many generations have come to realize over the course of the two-hundred and twenty one years since a band of patriots signed that document in Philadelphia, that is where the perfection begins.

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Wright is right about a lot of things
What was racist or inflammatory about what Wright said about HC?  It's all true.  And what he said about chickens coming home to roost has been written about extensively by no less esteemed a historian than Chalmers Johnson in his books Blowback, The Sorrows of Empire, and Nemesis.

What frustrates me is the short-term memory and even idiocy of the MSM.  They've already dropped Hagee.  Well, why not compare these ministers side-by-side and see what we can learn?  But that won't happen, because nobody bothers to put things in context, or when they do, it's wrong, as when Nora O'Donnell recently said on MSNBC, "The democrats have always had a problem with questions of keeping a strong defense" (or something close to that).  Always?  As in FDR, Truman, Kennedy, LBJ always?

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


Were we under the bus or just at the back under a blanket?
In this lengthy speech that got him more attention than any in his life; that was broadcast live, in its entirety, on some cable networks, Barack Obama spoke of wanting to

"build a coalition of"

Whites - check
Blacks - check
Hispanics - check
Asians - check
Native Americans - check
Women - check
Young - check
Old - check
Rich - check
Poor - check
Veterans - check
LGBTs - ?
LGBTs - ?
Hello?

Barack Obama chose to "talk about"

Improving race relations - check
Health care - check
Education - check
The economy - check
Jobs - check
Iraq withdrawal - check
Veterans support - check
LGBT equality - ?
Escalating hate crimes - ?
Hello?
Hello?
Hello?


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This was addressing race, commonalities and divisions
LGBTs are another dividing theme that crosses racial lines. Almost everyone wants health care, etc. But, most blacks and whites are against LGBT rights, and a substantial minority of blacks and whites are for LGBT rights. Hard to work it in. And frankly, I don't care, it can wait for another speech.

I live in a highly segregated city, in a transition/ edge neighborhood (by choice), and racism really is the #1 problem of the city, and a boil on the butt of America. And I am white - just think how blacks see the importance of racism.


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Religion and Civil Rights movement
brought solidarity to the civil rights movment, the marches, the protests, and gave hope to milllions of black Americans with metaphores of victory.  MLK's message was not about politics, it was about achieving social justice for all citizens.
Religion should not be mixed up with politics, selecting one candidate over another, if it is, churches should lose their tax free IRS status as non-profit organizations.
It is not fair to judge a race by religious leaders, although I have been guilty of judging Southern Applachian white people by Billy Graham and John Hagee.  Due to examples set by TV evangelists, mega church performers and others that draw crowds, church leaders have gotten more and more outrageous in their message, competing with one another for numbers.
I look forward to Obama's speech today in order to put some reason back into his campaign.

Dr. King did see the connection between race and politics
Dr. King did talk about politics, and would form ties with politicians that made many activists angry.  The tone and route of the March on Washington was changed because the Civil Rights leaders didn't want to anger the president.

Here are some qoutes from MLK Jr. that sound similar to Wright's sermons.  On a side note, let's not forget that when many heard Kings words they labeled them as angry, racially divisive, traiterous, etc.

"Don't let anybody make you think that God chose America as His divine messianic force to be -- a sort of policeman of the whole world. God has a way of standing before the nations with judgment, and it seems that I can hear God saying to America: 'You are too arrogant! If you don't change your ways, I will rise up and break the backbone of your power"

"I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government.... There is something strangely inconsistent about a nation and a press that would praise you when you say, "Be nonviolent toward Jim Clark," but will curse and damn you when you say, "Be nonviolent toward little brown Vietnamese children!" There is something wrong with that press...."

When we ask Negroes to abide by the law, let us also declare that the white man does not abide by law in the ghettos. Day in
and day out he violates welfare laws to deprive the poor of their meager allotments; he flagrantly violates building codes and
regulations; his police make a mockery of law; he violates laws on equal employment and education and the provisions of civil
services. The slums are the handiwork of a vicious system of the white society; Negroes live in them, but they do not make
them, any more than a prisoner makes a prison.

Many of the ugly pages of American history have been obscured and forgotten. A society is always eager to cover misdeeds with a cloak of forgetfulness, but no society can fully repress an ugly past when the ravages persist into the present. America owes a debt of justice which it has only begun to pay. If it loses the will to finish or slackens in its determination, history will recall its crimes and the country that would be great will lack the most element of greatness - justice.


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Wright's style not "so black"
Although that dramatic oratorical style originated on the other side of the Atlantic in England and Northern Ireland centuries past, it became for generations the style of both religious oratory and political oratory among Southern whites and among Southern blacks -- not only in the South but in the Northern ghettos in which Southern blacks settled. It was a style used by Southern white politicians in the era of Jim Crow and later by black civil rights leaders fighting Jim Crow. Martin Luther King's famous speech at the Lincoln Memorial in 1963 was a classic example of that style.

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no big suprise that the 30% segment of american flag-wavers
who still support chimpy and who still insist that invading iraq was a stroke of brilliance and who still lust for the nuclear destruction of the middle east were pissed off by wright's sermons.  however, i would disagree that many of them were shocked by the tone and its "blackness"....evangelical ministers and baptist preachers from rod parsley in the south to mac hammond in the north copy it.  they copy the mannerisms, the pacing, the delivery, all of it with one major exception--they're white and they've NEVER suffered oppression in their lives, and it's a subject that they can't fathom.  when are americans and christians going to stand back and realize the consequences of their actions and their history without getting their feathers ruffled?  people who have suffered from such indignities have the right to be furious, and the reactions to it are absurd.  whites are not oppressed.

the MSM fueled this fire intentionally, without juxtaposing the rabidly bigoted preachers associated with mccain to give a sense of context and balance.  

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Oppression
Indeed they haven't suffered oppression the way real minorities in this culture have, and yet they constantly proclaim that they are prejudiced against, that there is an assault on the very foundations of their belief, etc, etc., etc.  Why play the pity card?  Is it just a tool to raise more funds?  Can they honestly believe they are beleaguered?

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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Yes, it's a (certain type of) Christian thing....
There is a certain type of Christian that glamorizes martyrdom, instead of viewing it as bad luck happening to a person of integrity (respecting integrity to the point of martyrdom). These people can be insecure in their faith and also have high expectations of themselves. These are the people who so fear themselves that they claim vicarious martyrdom to reinforce their insecure faith.

Most of us have no idea whether we would in fact have the courage to be "the good Gentile" - we sure hope we would, but we see too many examples of those who just ran away or closed their eyes to be sure of what we would do when asked to risk our lives for strangers or neighbors. I'd rather acknowledge my capacity for weakness in the hopes that I might indeed step forth if needed. Reality is a stronger lever than self-delusion.


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Still the 1950s
Nobody wants to talk about anything - especially if it might result in a confrontation or might result (god forbid) in reconsidering a long held position.  

Just don't talk about it.  If it makes you uncomfortable, avoid it at all costs.  Don't worry about it.  Have a drink.  

I like what I've heard Jeremiah Wright say.  I won't apologize for it and I don't think Obama should either.  Why can't we think about how history affects our contemporary lives?  What is the harm in examining what we might have done in the past that might be influencing what is going wrong today?

It is ridiculous to think we have never made any errors or that we can do no wrong and that we have played no part in anything bad that has ever happened to us.  To ignore the criticism is like asking for it happen to again.  (Has anyone around here ever heard of the 4th step? - that 4th column is a real bitch...doesn't mean it should be ignored).

And that 4th step also applies to how we deal with race.  Just pretending we are sorry about the past (without saying anything) doesn't compensate for what our predecessors - our parents/grandparents - did or didn't do.  It doesn't mean we get a pass because we don't make the same mistakes and it doesn't mean that we don't make the same mistakes by keeping our mouth shut.

This post is all about race, but if we substitute sexual orientation the same theories apply.  I don't think you have to separate the two or that one is diminished by sharing the philosophy with the other.  

1)  Yes I do think racism is used to attract votes and they always have always used it when they could.   It's only good for our culture when it is discovered, highlighted and criticized at twice the volume that it was delivered, otherwise it adds to the disease.  

2)  Yes whites are uncomfortable because we all think about the differences we are indoctrinated to recognize.  We can't escape the schema and we think we do when we don't talk about it and we think we blame our loved ones by acknowledging the part they played in our indoctrination.

3)  Yes.  Progressives (what ever that means...I really loathe the ridiculous labels that people adopt to avoid being called liberal) will not consider criticism of their favorite politician.  They stick to a candidate like paparazzi to Spears and the real sycophants won't budge.  They ignore.  They spin.  Then they blame someone else.  The progressives are no different than any right wing barnacle, except their positions are not right wing...they are just as rigid.

4)  Defensiveness is just another aspect of the same phenomena.    It doesn't help to make blanket statements about blacks, whites, racists, or people with open minds that try to shun the ignorance and make mistakes while stumbling into revelations about their lack of information.  Generalizations made without nuance or any self awareness are symptoms of ignorance not enlightenment.  

5)  Outweight? - no.  Fear is the price of being human.  If you cant risk being wrong or learning how you are wrong and being open to changing / evolving / examining what you know and why you know it, then you are stagnant and close minded and fearful.  No pain, no gain, as they say. Humility is not respected in our culture and yet we can't survive without it.


I'll Try to Answer these Questions
Do I hear wolves howling at my door? ;-)

* Do you believe that political consultants use subtle and overt racism to score points because it works, and that the end justifies the means? Is that good for our society, or does it matter?
Political consultants definitely use racism (usually subtly) to score points and it does work. I don't believe that the end justifies the means, and I think it's dirty politics. Though it might get their person elected, in the end, I think it hurts our society. It's like picking at an old wound and never letting it heal.

* Do you think that some white people are uncomfortable when race comes up in the presidential race, from either campaign or surrogates? Why?
Yes, I do think whites are uncomfortable talking about race, and I think it goes beyond the presidential race as well. We don't want to be labled as racist and fear that any discussion could lead to that. I'm sure it applies in reverse as well, which causes us to let racially charged problems fester until they explode. This problem with Wright might be a good example of that.

* Do you think that the uncomfortability of discussions about racism and implicit bias causes a shutdown of honest dialog about it in the progressive movement?
Yes, I do. It shouldn't, but it does. And the lack of true discussion (not accusations, or yelling, but discussions) only hurts us all in the end.  

* Does the potential defensive reaction of blacks toward broaching the topic of race inhibit at all? What personal incidents inform that judgment - and is it fair to apply that to all black people?
This is a hard one for me to answer. I've seen both sides react defensively in racial discussions. We all want to be treated fairly by others and everyone has a tendency to react when we feel we are being treated unfairly. It's human nature. Some seem more sensitive than others on both sides. I'm sure other people can answer this one better than me.

* Does the fear of being perceived as racist or patronizing outweigh the benefits of addressing honest questions we have about the effect of race?
I don't think it outweighs the benefits, but I can see it being the cause of a lot of people deciding not to address the honest questions, especially if they are in some kind of public field such as politics. I'm sure that most politicians, black and white must feel like they have just jumped into shark infested waters with a cut foot every time they broach the subject in public. I'm sure that must be the way Obama feels right now as he gets ready to deliver his speech today.

I'm sure others will be able to answer these question better than me, but these are my thoughts anyway.

I do have serious questions about the relationship between Wright and Obama, just as I had serious questions about his seeming to tolerate and aid McClurkin. This is a man that obviously has been grooming himself for the presidency for years. Any politician knows that if you want to succeed in politics, you have to distance yourself from the radicals (unless you are in the Republican party. Then it doesn't matter and may help you). Obama would have to be an idiot not to know that his preacher was saying these things that obviously would be taken as racist by many people (myself included I'm afraid), yet he stayed in that church for twenty years, let this preacher marry him and his wife, and baptise his children. He has denied knowing about these sermons on CNN, and that obviously is not the truth. This concerns me even more. Why would he stay involved with this preacher if he was trying to ready himself for the presidency? He must have known that this would bite him in the rear some day. Is it a lack of judgment? Does he believe the things his preacher said? Was he truly so blind to how the preacher's words would be percieved by the public? I don't know, but it truly bothers me. He is going to have to make the speech of his life today to even begin to repair the damage. I wish him luck, I really do, especially since it does look like I may be voting for him in the general election. I will NOT vote for McCain, and I won't waste my vote on someone else who has no chance to win.
There. I'm finished. Now let me go bar that door before the wolves find a way in. ;-)


What Wright said
in effect, was that white America has a great deal to be ashamed of, not to say feel guilty about, in the way it has always treated black folks.  Though true, this is not permissible.  It treads on too many of our cherished tribal myths.  What he said is quite palpably accurate, but he broke the unstated rule: NEVER suggest, in public discourse, that this is anything less than the greatest country possible.

Notice how often the talking head pundits on the chat shows have to preface any critical remarks--of the government, health care, or whatever--with, "This is the greatest country in the world, but..."  They know better than to suggest otherwise.  Even when you're suggesting that the US isn't paradise, you must be careful to say that it is.  Anyone in the public eye must understand this rule and live by it--or face the wrath of Fox News, NBC, CBS, the New York Times, and all the other "liberal media."  Obama clearly understands this; unfortunately for him, his preacher man didn't.


Cynic, n.  A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.  
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fairly standard liberation theology
Just read the Prophets. Main theme: God let the Babylonians whup Israel's a** because Israel had sinned against the weakest in its community.

Wright's problem was that he got conspiratorial in addition to pointing out that the US has been aggressor more often than victim vis a vis civilian casualties.

I object to the equivalence of Palestinians with black S. Africans. Totally different historical contexts. And the black political talking-head community already has a naive glamorization of the Palestinians as can-do-no-wrong. (Not to say that the current situation in Gaza isn't abominable - the USA has failed to use its power to achieve some sort of equitable humane solution, I don't know if Israel has ever gotten serious threats of non-assistance from the US should Israel follow inflammatory policies).


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Good point about S. Africa & the Palestinians
But this is also a long-standing meme on The Left which can't be unlearned.  It's a kind of knee-jerk response.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

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TPM...
...has a transcript of the speech posted.

It's pretty good.  A politician speaking honestly is rare and refreshing.

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I Agree
I said I thought he would have to make the speech of his life, and I think he did. He did try to answer some of my questions, and I give him credit for that. He did good.

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Great inspiring words
Terrific.  I will vote for him, again.  This election is making me mercurial to say the least.

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Not just pretty good, but terrific!
I listened to the speech and found it honest, powerful, stirring, eloquent.  This is what I admire about Obama: he connects the dots, but not mechanically.  He does so in a way that makes us larger in what we can hope for and in our understanding.  He doesn't lecture, he explains and describes and inspires.

I saw a president at that podium today.  Someone rising above, but not with contempt (as Bush does), with understanding.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


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Agreed...
I got chills...tears...and felt such strong faith and hope for our nation. I am so glad and proud to share a country with this gentleman and hope to help him in November.

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Not just pretty good, but terrific!
I listened to the speech and found it honest, powerful, stirring, eloquent.  This is what I admire about Obama: he connects the dots, but not mechanically.  He does so in a way that makes us larger in what we can hope for and in our understanding.  He doesn't lecture, he explains and describes and inspires.

I saw a president at that podium today.  Someone rising above, but not with contempt (as Bush does), with understanding.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


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Brought Tears to My Eyes
And $50 more to the Obama campaign. In the histrionics of the last few days we have lost the real strength of the Obama campaign - the refusal to play by the set political rules. He is not only building a coalition unparalleled since, probably, FDR, but is addressing the thorny issues in (as I said on Dkos) in an honest, clear and forward-thinking way.

IMHO, he said all the right things in this speech - and we shall have to see how the MSM treats it. The very issues brought up in the comments on this thread - regarding how he could remain loyal to this pastor/church, how he would respond to a right-wing attack message, how he can maintain a hopeful tone and still strike back at attackers - he answered, in spades.

The best part was the frank treatment of both sides of the racial divide. He clearly and sympathetically expressed both sdies, but also why both sides were at least partially wrong (w/out attacking anyone or making either group the villian, which is amazing) and most importantly, how we had to move forward.  


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Brilliant touches
There were sparks of brilliance all the way through, as when he asked who in the audience hadn't disagreed with something a minister, priest or rabbi had said from the pulpit.  Or mentioning that even his white grandmother showed the impress a racist culture had made on her though her beloved grandson was half-black.  There you had the heartbreak of racism and how it perverts even family relationships in one stunning example.

By focusing on these two elements, I don't mean to diss the rest of the address.  I thought it was proof of who he is: totally emotionally real and consonant with his campaign, powerful and uplifting.  These aren't just words, as Clinton has derided him, these are truths.  The man is a masterful orator and you can't be that if your words are disconnected from your feelings and in variance with your very being.

A man like this has the potential to be a great president.  

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


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i have to admit
that it was a cringe point for me when he listed "minister, priest or rabbi", but left imam off the list.  otherwise, i thought the speech was good.  the white grandma moment and the bit about white resentment i think were particularly effective.

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Cringe-worthy
Me, I imagined what people might be feeling who never listened to any religious figure of any kind.  Would they feel left out, annoyed, implicitly dissed.

But he did so much so beautifully in the speech, I figured he couldn't touch all bases.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


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A great analysis
This is from HuffPost:

Today we saw and heard a preview of our brightest possible American future in Senator Barack Obama's glorious speech. This, then, is what it means to be presidential. To be moral. To have a real center. To speak honestly, from the heart, for the benefit of all. If there was any doubt about what we have missed in the anti-intellectual, ruthlessly incurious Bush years, and even the slippery Clinton ones (the years of "what is is"), those doubts were laid to rest by Barack Obama's magisterial speech today. A speech in which he distanced himself from a flawed father figure, Reverend Wright, and did so with almost Shakespearian dignity and honor.

Full text at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...

And sorry for the double post above--my server has been acting weird and not loading the Blend or my email correctly today.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


My partner brought it up on the laptop for me to watch
He did look so presidential today in every way. The flags behind him was a great touch. My favorite part of the speech was comparing Rev Wright to his grandmom. His ability to plant his feet in many worlds gives him an authenticity to talk on so many levels.

I identify with Sen Obama as a Gen X'er. It's funny how many of us, Black/White/Americans from Africa ... that are working for him say it's how we identify. It's the words, even Michelle's faux-pas that we see in our own world views. It's how many times we've been in a meeting controlled by boomer language and ideas. It's all the times when we're told that we're too young, even though we are middle aged ourselves with families, mortgages, control budgets, have real experience ...

It's also how we see identity differently then the older generation. Obama was great when he compared Wright & Ferraro as generational. I've seen so many times how liberal racism & liberal sexism & liberal homophobia have been used to stop progress in its tracks. He never uses the kind of victim language that has been so much a part of the liberal identity politics of the last generation.

I'm also proud that he didn't throw Rev Wright under the bus and just move on. Instead, he spoke on how language works & the limits of Rev Wright's statements. While I understand and agree with much of what Wright said, I'm sure if I was there, I would have told the Rev that not all us in White America thinks like that. I know I type things out of anger on the internets that I would want to erase later or statements that get taken out of context that become the focus of a rebuttal.

When I see the hate coming from all the other sides, though, I hope we can really move on. The issues we face in this country and our world are just too great to get caught up yet again in the culture wars we've all put so much energy into for so long. I've learned over time that there are just things I can agree to dis-agree on with people I work with common issues. I have found that people grow through common effort. Lectures tend to turn them off.

Obama's speech on MLK Day showed me one way to do it. I've discussed marriage, immigration, sexism, ... with people also doing Obama work. The reality is that this campaign has organized so many who don't yet have perfect PC politics, but who are ready to learn. Our county of 850k is as rainbow as it gets, with all the baggage that each represent, yet went almost 80% for Sen Obama.

So, for me, the whole "Change" thing ain't just "a speech". It's a way forward after 40 years in the desert, waiting for the children of the cold war to die.


I Hope People Are Really Listening
He denounced those parts of Wright's position while praising the good the man had done.  He acknowledged the fears and mistrust on all sides and gave them creedence without taking sides.  He showed that it's possible to love and find merit in someone while still disagreeing with them and have both with merit and value. He does what no one in American politcs has the spine to do.  He seeks merit in people lives and concerns rather than condemnation in what he disagrees with and by doing so invites all to be a part of a bigger picture with bigger concerns than most of our petty squabbling and finger-pointing.

He isn't fer us or agin us.  He isn't even for getting elected.  He's for America, and few pols, pundits or media blowhards in my lifetime can claim that.  He's a conservative with a social conscience and a liberal with common sense.  He recognises that race problems are not to be ignored nor railed against but something to be overcome but addressing it as Americans and not as a hyphenated part of society is the way to do it.  

He wants to claim America for Americans but the issue is not is it possible, but who is willing to step up to the plate.  


Very Presidential
I saw Barack leaving the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia today.  He looked very Presidential.  I just hope Barack and Hillary are able to come to some type of middleground so as not to disenfranchise half of the Democratic voters.

I've always been skeptical of Obama
 I was originally a Clinton supporter for several reasons. I saw Obama as virtually unknown on the world stage, having not even been exposed to many social diplomatic situations and these times call for a leader with strong insights into world affairs. While Clinton may not have been involved in many official capacities, a bright person can't be around that kind of thing for most of a decade without picking something up. I had thought that she was better equipped to handle that arena and nothing from either candidate to date has persuaded me otherwise.
That being said, when it came primary time in Texas, I voted for Obama due to Clinton's apparent scorn for the Progressive movement. On the one hand, she is the candidate that I most agree with on social and science issues. What I most dislike about her is her membership in the DLC and I very much condemn her vote to authorize Bush to attack Iraq without cause and I did at the time. I reject Obama's assertion that he was against the war from the beginning as being relevant. So was I. So were millions of Americans but he had no more say in the matter than we did, not being a member of the United States Congress at the time. I am fully aware of and have heard some of his speeches condemning the war but he's been a lot milder in that condemnation than I have been. Another minor problem I have with Obama is that his roots are just as establishment Democratic Party as Clinton.
 The biggest problem I have had and still have with Obama is his religion. He is far too religious for my taste. He's not paying lip service which says a lot about his character, he is genuinely faithful. Though that makes him a better person in my opinion than the hypocritical puritans we're used to, I have a major problem trusting devout people and for good cause. Deeply devout people have a tendency to be overly fatalistic at times. Too many religious folks like to call for prayer as if that is a solution to a real problem. I think that Turkey's constitutionally secular system is far superior in that respect. I'm not suggesting that Obama would behave like Bush in that way but given the choice, I'll pick the least religious person for public office.
I have been questioning whether or not I voted correctly when I selected Obama's name. Until today. I was at work so I wasn't able to watch the speech but after reading the transcript, my issues with Obama have receeded quite a bit. He'll never be my perfect candidate but I no longer question whether he is the very best of this cycle's absolutely wonderful slate of Democrats. NOBODY is ever going to be my perfect candidate but Obama is the best one I have ever supported for the office of POTUS. We are in greater need of a visionary and a unifier to heal the harm that has been inflicted upon us as a nation. Until we are back to the point at which we were when the Bushies started their rape and plunder, we can't move forward. I give Obama a much better chance of inspiring people to change their habits and behaviors than I gove Clinton. We still very much need a strong person in the foriegn affairs department but Obama is the one who can lead us into the future as a coherent society.

Religion Issue Cleared Up for Me as Well
Someone on dkos questioned how Obama's message of hope and change can be so different from his pastor's, if Obama is correct that Wright's mistake was fatalism about the ability of the culture to really change. To me that said that Obama was a "cafeteria Christian" in the best sense - taking what is really good and true from a religious teaching and chucking the more radical or ridiculous stuff. I was raised by a pro-choice, feminist, devout Catholic, so I know the type.

The difference between Obama and Bush is that Bush belongs (or at least claims to) to a segment of Christianity that takes religious teaching, in its entirety, as unquestionable truth. That kind of mindset, IMHO, is dangerous in any leader, and we have seen in the last 8 years the damage wrought when anyone is convinced they know the full and complete truth, reality be damned.  

Obama seems to be practicing a far more pragmatic religious faith, and I can easily see him, and Michelle, for that matter, analyzing one of Wright's sermons to determine where they agreed, disagreed, and why. That kind of critical thinking about religion, about society, is vital in any leader. Hell, we have a President who couldn't think of a single mistake he'd made in his first term versus a candidate who admitted being fallible in a campaign speech. Seems to me that the second is a far better pick for leadership.  


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amazing speech
I thought this speech was amazing. I grew up in Alabama and my family still lives there. I called my mom and asked her if she heard it. She said that she wasn't interested in anything Barack Obama had to say. It makes me angry that people like my family refuse to listen to someone because of the color of their skin.  

ROCK ON OBAMA!
My 70+ year old aunt from Mississippi, who was a staunch Hillary supporter and who I suspect still has a bit of racism just below the surface, called me today to tell me that she is now an Obama supporter because she feels that he is the best chance she's ever seen to fix what's wrong with America.

After I got up off the floor, I welcomed her on  board.  I was convinced that she was calling me to rub in Obama's "scandal".  I'm still in disbelief that she is now an Obamahead.

Rock on Aunt Helen!!!


We'll See...
... but I suspect that today's speech will add more fuel to the fire from conservatives.  The problem here is the attempt to bring religion into the campaign.  Obama (and Clinton, to a lesser degree) have been throwing religion around.  If they would claim fidelity to the constitution as their higher power for campaign purposes and stop pretending religion plays an important role in how they view issues, we'd all be better off.  In this election, it appears McCain (and Clinton, to a lesser degree) is the one who doesn't try to justify his views with religion.  Of course he tries to pander to the religious right, but they-- and everyone-- know he does really mean it.  What a sad thing that has happened to the Democrats.

Yesterday I would have agreed with you
 My doubts about Obama have been somewhat assuaged today. I'm hopeful. As for the republican attack machine; they wouldn't stop if god herself came down and said that Obama is the second coming. I hate having to vote for superstitious people but Obama no longer makes me nervous in that regard. His views are subtle and nuanced, not simplistic like we've come to expect from the fundies.

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I can't believe that any self respecting GLBT person would vote for a right-centrist Democrat like Obama or Clinton or a rightist Republican like McCain.
They jointly support the war. They jointly support NAFTA, union busting, deregulation and cuts in medical and financial aid for the growing numbers of poor people. They jointly stabbed us in the back with DOMA and DADT and by gutting ENDA and then scrapping it and the hate crimes bill. They join in the abuse of immigrant and imported labor or at best turn a cold shoulder to them. Both parties refuse to support laws to raise the minimum wage to trade union levels to even out the racist discrepancies in living standards. Etc.

But given that, we should do all we can to protest and reject race baiting by the Clintons. The election campaign has already produced an increase in anti-GLBT violence, including murders. If Obama wins the nomination the Republicans will pick up where Bill and Hillary left off. (They've already done polling to see what they can get away with.) That'll most likely lead to racist violence as well.

Secondly, Wright seems to have a healthy contempt for racism and its extension into the Middle East which includes the oil piracy in Iraq and US support for the zionist apartheid state. He has a perfect right to his opinions. How could any one object to that?  

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


Funny
You never hear people who use that tired cliché "the Zionist apartheid state" (so 70s leftist) complain about Egypt, do you?  Never.  Yet Egypt also gets billions of dollars of our aid, oppresses and murders Coptic Christians, oppresses and tortures gay men, and is a virtual dictatorship.  It seems Arab countries can do no wrong, and apparently Christians don't matter to anyone (not even the Pope) if they're dark skinned.

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report

An American Speech for the Ages

I support Hilary Clinton for President.  I think Barack Obama's speech in Philadelphia will be ranked among the greatest of American speeches ever delivered.  Right up there among the top ten or even top five.  It was magnificent.  It spoke to the best of the American ideals.  It spoke to the heart of America.  It spoke of racism and religion at a time when we need to speak of racism and religion in America.  Bravo!  Amazing and utterly magnificent speech by an amazing and magnifcent man!

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...

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