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Obama Unflatteringly Describes "Bitter," Small Town Pennsylvania Voters

by: Autumn Sandeen

Fri Apr 11, 2008 at 23:15:00 PM EDT



While giving a speech to a group of his supporters at a San Francisco fund-raiser last weekend, Obama gave this rahter unflattering depiction of Pennsylvania voters:

You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.

(The audio of the speech can be heard on the Huffington Post, which broke the story.)

Sen. Obama's Democratic and Republican opponents are describing Obama as an elitist for those comments -- his comments are easily interpretable that way.

After the fold, Sen. Clinton, Sen. McCain, and other Republicans, and Sen. Obama respond to the Obama quote.

Autumn Sandeen :: Obama Unflatteringly Describes "Bitter," Small Town Pennsylvania Voters

Sen. Clinton:

In Philly, Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, implies that Obama "looks down on" these small town Pennsylvanians.

"I saw in the media it's being reported that my opponent said that the people of Pennsylvania who faced hard times are bitter," Clinton said this afternoon. "Well, that's not my experience. As I travel around Pennsylvania, I meet people who are resilient, who are optimistic, who are positive, who are rolling up their sleeves. They are working hard everyday for a better future, for themselves and their children.

"Pennsylvanians don't need a president who looks down on them, they need a president who stands up for them, who fights for them, who works hard for your futures, your jobs, your families."

Sen. McCain's campaign:

"Barack Obama apparently believes that for Americans less privileged than him, religion is an economic-based and not faith-based condition," Mark Salter, a senior campaign adviser for Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., tells ABC News.

"It is hardly news that Senator Obama's 'new' approach to politics is based on the presumption that voters are easily fooled," Salter continues, "but the arrogance and elitism he shows here is truly astonishing, and very revealing about how he would govern this country."

Salter was reacting to Obama's comments about the "bitterness" of small town Pennsylvanians who then cling to their guns, or religion.

Other Republicans:

Within moments, Republicans had pounced. Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser to Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign told Politico's Jonathan Martin that Obama's comment revealed "an elitism and condescension towards hardworking Americans that is nothing short of breathtaking." Schmidt added: "It is hard to imagine someone running for president who is more out of touch with average Americans."

Within hours, the National Republican Congressional Committee had issued a release pushing Rep. Chris Carney -- a vulnerable freshman Democrat from Pennsylvania -- to condemn Obama's remarks.

"It's time for Congressman Chris Carney to step up and denounce Barack Obama's condescending attitude about families who live in small towns and who hold a viewpoint other than Obama's," said NRCC spokesman Ken Spain.

And, then, of course, came the inevitable Obama's response -- condemning the condemnation. "Senator Obama has said many times in this campaign that Americans are understandably upset with their leaders in Washington for saying anything to win elections while failing to stand up to the special interests and fight for an economic agenda that will bring jobs and opportunity back to struggling communities," said spokesman Tommy Vietor. "And if John McCain wants a debate about who's out of touch with the American people, we can start by talking about the tax breaks for the wealthiest Americans that he once said offended his conscience but now wants to make permanent."

Finally, Sen. Obama:

(The text of Sen. Obama's response to the critism is here.)

The bottom line is that at best the way Sen. Obama initially described small town Pennsylvanians sounds unflattering, and there does seem to be some credence in describing the comments as elitist.

Between former President Clinton apparently talking out of his ass about Sen. Clinton's trip to Bosnia during his presidency, and Sen. Obama making apparently making some condescending sounding comments about small town Pennsylvanians -- not a great day for Democratic, Presidential candidates. And, I sure as hell don't want the Republican candidate to be elected in November.

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The longer the Democratic Primary goes on,
  The worse it is going to get for the Democratic Candidate.

 It wasn't that long ago we were joyful at the way the clown car was going.  Now look, the Democratic Candidates are fueling the McCain Camp.  

 I can say President McCain.  This fight between Clinton and Obama is getting old.  the digs between the two Democrats is getting old.  

 I don't know about the rest of the readers here at PHB, but all I can see is millions of dollars spent by both Democratic Candidates going to waste where the money could go to state representatives and senate campaigns to support those races.  WE, the Democrats are going to get our ASSES KICKED come November, as Democratic Candidates are not getting the cash flow these two are burning threw.

 Talk about the jaws of victory?



If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


November
Don't despair yet Happy.  Months are like centuries in the world of politics.  King George the 1st's approval rating was up in the 90's at the start of 1992 and he ended up losing in November to Bill.  Also, the House Republicans seem to keep dropping like flies.  So, there is room to hope.

[ Parent ]
REBMEVON, seirutnec ekil era shtnom
  OK, Months are like centuries, backwards.

 The yet gats me.  I am not a doom and gloom, but I can see reality.  I will fight for LGBT rights.  Funny how I can convince many to support Marriage Equality than I can for Gender Idenity Equality.

 I guess that is my fault though.  As I live as a woman and my past is unknown to almost everyone.  

 But there is one thing different.  I live in a closet so to speak.  I hide my past but it can be found out.  And I don't feel safe if people know who I am.

 Will the passing of The Matthew Shepard Act (Hate Crimes) and ENDA help me feel more safe?  You bet it would!!!

 Would Hate Crimes Legislation PREVENT another Human Being KILLING another HUMAN BEING?  Hell NO!

 No one here(where I live) knows I am Trans, Woman of surgery, or what ever.  

 But not every Trans is like me.  I am called LUCKY by many people that know me.  "I PASS WELL"  

 See my Diary posted later.

 

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


[ Parent ]
Blood
I just love the way politicians have a way of smelling the slightest bit of blood in the water.  They must be part shark.  All it takes is for a comment to be made and they come out of woodwork to get a piece of their opponent.  I mean, who ever heard of Ken Spain before?

Unfortunately, what Obama said is true.  It's human nature to look for a scapegoat for your problems and that's not just limited to PA small towns.


I lived in a small Pennsylvania town
and Obama is right.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

Probably ...
But politicians aren't allowed to say it. This is America, and we've been told from babyhood that small towns are wellsprings of hard work, common sense, and everything else that is good and decent.

My dad grew up in one, and he couldn't wait till he was finally old enough to get the fuck out.


[ Parent ]
Agreed
People are bitter. And worse- they're scared and don't know what they can do to save their families.

I think the way one interprets what Obama said depends more on how one viewed Obama PRIOR to the statements than by the statement itself.

And because that certainly is true of me as well... at this stage, IMO Hillary would argue against water being wet if Obama said it were so. She will attack him on everything she possibly can, as long as she can.

I hope HappyCat is wrong, but... makes alot of sense to me.  

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."


[ Parent ]
At this point if Obama walked across the Potomac River in the water......
Senator CLinton's supporters would issue a press release saying "Obama Can't Swim."

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

[ Parent ]
What Obama said is 100% TRUE.
I think people are mostly getting hung up on the word "bitter".

Had he used the words "angry and frustrated" I don't think anyone would have been able to challenge him.

It's a fact that people who are hurting financially and socially are very likely to turn to guns, God and scapegoating of vulnerable minorities.  It has happened in every age and in every culture.  Why should the financially stuggling people of Pennsylvania think that they are any diffent?


correct
These were towns that en masse exchanged mainstream Protestantism for fundamentalism as the jobs evaporated, that became increasingly conservative til in some congressional races there are no Democrats running in districts.

Despair seems to breed a kind fo radicalism of the right there, the Catholics become extremely orthodox, the Protestants move toward evangelicalism, the Democrats evaporate.

There are more hate groups in Pa than in any other state.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


[ Parent ]
Clumsy comment, but true.
Insular and suspicious would be a better way to describe us small-town and rural dwellers!  I wish people could see what it is like to have been in "recession" for 25 years and see how cheerful and welcoming you would be!  I am glad I left but I've been protective ever since of my small-town past.  It is easy to idealize but hard to live there.

"North Dakota's chief exports are its children" Kelleyann  


It seems to me
If anyone is being condescending to the voters and people of Pennsylvania, it's the Repugs and Clinton for assuming that they are incapable of understanding as well-reasoned statement because of a single word that might be inflammatory.

25 Years Ago?
Gee 25 years ago Ronnie Reagan , the man Obama claimed to look up to for changing the course of America and ending the excesses of the 1960s and 70s was in power.

Now 10 years ago Bill Clinton was in office and the economy was the best it had been since the 1960s.

No wonder Obama is losing among those of us who remember that silly thing called history.


Everyone probably knows I'm no fan of Mr. Obama, but...
...in this instance I'll be happy to cut him some slack.  I think his comment rings mostly true in this case.  I'd also expand his comment to Ohio and a few other Midwest states.

People are bitter.  I should know, I'm one of them.


I think a shorter list
would be the states or regions that AREN'T bitter at this point.

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

[ Parent ]
The Same Here
I've not been a big supporter of Obama myself, though I think I will probably be voting for him in November the way things look now. He is totally correct in his statement about small towns being bitter. The only thing I question is the fact that he only mentions Pennsylvania towns. You can find towns like this all across the USA. Bitter was probably a poor word choice, but, the longer this Democratic race lasts, the better the chances for both to make mistakes that McCain and his crew will enjoy using later. This race is now starting to hurt the Democrat's chances in the November election. It needs to end, and it needs to end soon, whatever the outcome.

[ Parent ]
No just sounds honest to me.
He's absolutely right and I see nothing "elitist" or condescending about it, it's just the truth.  The "controversy" is just a bunch of spin by those highly motivated to spin it.

Spin & Soundbyte vs. Substance
I grew up in one of Massachusett's "decaying mill towns," one that had lost its jobs to cheap labor South Carolina. Mr. Obama's comments certainly ring true to me. I don't see them as condescending or even unflattering.

He's right. He's absolutely right.

Almost 50 years ago politics in the US entered a new generation when the Kennedy's "sold Jack like soap flakes." That superficial selling of a candidate was perfected by the Republicans in the Reagan and Bush 2 regimes, who used it to attack their opponents with cheap shots and manipulations of their words, or simple lies.

To me, Obama's campaign is almost a laboratory test of whether or not we as a society have evolved enough to be able to have a campaign about ideas and in depth understanding or whether we are going to retreat to the comfort of soundbytes and spin.

The question is are voters in America going to listen to what Obama actually said and think about what it means or just accept the soundbyte because it's easier to do that than actually think for themselves.  


To answer your last
on the behalf of the average American voter, who has the political understanding and patience of a half-grown Golden Retriever...

Wait! Was that a squirrel ??? Oh boy; let's go chase it!

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."


[ Parent ]
Corporate abandoned you

  for:

cheap labor South Carolina

  and now they are abandoning the United States for China, Mexico etc. for cheap labor and what happened to small towns back then in the northeast is "now" happening to all of amerika.

Bye.. Bye... Ms. American Pie, Drove my chevy to the levee but the levee was dry, and good ole boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing this will be the day that I die, this will be the day that I die.

Ten years on our own
generation lost in space...
...  ...  ...
wouldn't dance...

but the church bells all were broken...

and the three men I admire the most,
the father, son, and the holy ghost,
took the last train for the coast,

the day..., the mu...sic, died.....   .....

and they were singin' ...   ...   ...  

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


[ Parent ]
It's too good not to include...

   all the lyricks...and my belief remains the same, Corporate abandons amerika

 (or hijacks)... and we'll "never" get the chance to dance...we're gone for broke.

Writer:Don McLean
Title: American Pie

A long long time ago
I can still remember how that music used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And maybe they'd be happy for a while.

But February made me shiver
With every paper I'd deliver
Bad news on the doorstep
I couldn't take one more step

I can't remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died

So
{Refrain}
Bye-bye, Miss American Pie
Drove my chevy to the levee
But the levee was dry
And them good old boys were drinkin' whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die
This'll be the day that I die

Did you write the Book of Love
And do you have faith in God above
If the Bible tells you so
Do you believe in rock 'n roll
Can music save your mortal soul
And can you teach me how to dance real slow

Well, I know that you're in love with him
'Cause I saw you dancin' in the gym
You both kicked off your shoes
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues

I was a lonely teenage broncin' buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died

I started singin'
{Refrain}

Now for ten years we've been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rollin' stone
But that's not how it used to be
When the jester sang for the King and Queen
In a coat he borrowed from James Dean
And a voice that came from you and me

Oh, and while the King was looking down
The jester stole his thorny crown
The courtroom was adjourned
No verdict was returned
And while Lenin read a book of Marx
The quartet practiced in the park
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died

We were singing
{Refrain}

Helter Skelter in a summer swelter
The Byrds flew off with a fallout shelter
Eight miles high and falling fast
It landed foul out on the grass
The players tried for a forward pass
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the Sergeants played a marching tune
We all got up to dance
Oh, but we never got the chance
'Cause the players tried to take the field
The marching band refused to yield
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died

We started singing
{Refrain}

Oh, and there we were all in one place
A generation Lost in Space
With no time left to start again
So come on, Jack be nimble, Jack be quick
Jack Flash sat on a candlestick
'Cause fire is the Devil's only friend

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in hell
Could break that Satan's spell
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrifical rite
I saw Satan laughing with delight
The day the music died

He was singing
{Refrain}

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the sacred store
Where I'd heard the music years before
But the man there said the music woudn't play

And in the streets the children screamed
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The church bells all were broken
And the three men I admire most
The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died

And they were singing
{Refrain}

They were singing bye-bye, Miss American Pie
Drove my chevy to the levee
But the levee was dry
Them good old boys were drinking whiskey and rye
Singin' this'll be the day that I die



I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


[ Parent ]
One of my very favorite songs
and I have never once thought to read the lyrics as poetry. Thanks, PhyllisMs; this was beautiful!

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

[ Parent ]
armchair psychologizing
he's probably right about some people, and probably wrong about others.  this is why you shouldn't paint with a broad brush, senator.  but anyway, i'm betting what is really sticking in people's craw is that he is armchair psychologizing them.  no one likes that kind of condesention from a stranger, even if the conclusion is true.  but i hope people shake it off and attribute it to his effort to understand their situation, because it's not like he's voting for torture to continue or 100 more years in iraq.  

Lurleen on Twitter

I grew up in Decatur, Illinois, and...
Let's look directly at Senator Obama's response to the attacks on his comments by Senators McCain and Clinton:

I was in San Francisco talking to a group at a fundraiser and somebody asked how're you going to get votes in Pennsylvania? What's going on there? We hear that's its hard for some working class people to get behind you're campaign. I said, "Well look, they're frustrated and for good reason. Because for the last 25 years they've seen jobs shipped overseas. They've seen their economies collapse. They have lost their jobs. They have lost their pensions. They have lost their healthcare.

And for 25, 30 years Democrats and Republicans have come before them and said we're going to make your community better. We're going to make it right and nothing ever happens. And of course they're bitter. Of course they're frustrated. You would be too. In fact many of you are. Because the same thing has happened here in Indiana. The same thing happened across the border in Decatur. The same thing has happened all across the country. Nobody is looking out for you. Nobody is thinking about you. And so people end up- they don't vote on economic issues because they don't expect anybody's going to help them. So people end up, you know, voting on issues like guns, and are they going to have the right to bear arms. They vote on issues like gay marriage. And they take refuge in their faith and their community and their families and things they can count on. But they don't believe they can count on Washington. So I made this statement-- so, here's what rich. Senator Clinton says 'No, I don't think that people are bitter in Pennsylvania. You know, I think Barack's being condescending.' John McCain says, 'Oh, how could he say that? How could he say people are bitter? You know, he's obviously out of touch with people.'

Out of touch? Out of touch? I mean, John McCain--it took him three tries to finally figure out that the home foreclosure crisis was a problem and to come up with a plan for it, and he's saying I'm out of touch? Senator Clinton voted for a credit card-sponsored bankruptcy bill that made it harder for people to get out of debt after taking money from the financial services companies, and she says I'm out of touch? No, I'm in touch. I know exactly what's going on. I know what's going on in Pennsylvania. I know what's going on in Indiana. I know what's going on in Illinois. People are fed-up. They're angry and they're frustrated and they're bitter. And they want to see a change in Washington and that's why I'm running for President of the United States of America.

I added the bold, because that's my hometown, where I spent the 1st 17 years of my life. Barack's dead right. Many large factories in Decatur, a booming industrial town in my childhood, have closed in the past 3 decades. Those that remain have gone to swing shifts, and other family crushing labor acts. The downtown is a ghost town. Violent crime has skyrocketed, where a safe town was until recently. Homes sit vacant, and values were in the toilet long before this current crisis.

Yes, the people there are dispirited and often bitter. They struggle on, but Obama has hit the attitude on the nose. When I go back, which is frequent as I still have family there, it breaks my heart. It's Clinton & McCain who are out of touch with people in these crippled industrial midwestern towns.  


He did hit the nail on the head,
  People are pissed ar what is NOT happening in Washington DC.  People are also to busy trying to make ends meet working not only 40 hours a week but overtime or second jobs.  

 It is amazing how much cash can be spent on a Presidential Campaign in one week that many people will not earn in a lifetime.

 People who have been layed off from companies downsizing know this.  And it started in smaller manufacturing towns. The out sourcing of jobs is now showing the affect in the housing market.  And look who is getting Saved by the Shrub Administration?  And at the same time the US dollar is losing its value in the world.  Which by the way many people are getting to understand.

 But one other point that needs to be hit home.  Back in the 30s and 40s WAR was profitable for the US citizen.  Building aircraft and such as Americans went to work with pride and patriotism.  That has not been the case for 50 years.  And we have an administration that is trying to thrive on it.

 All one has to look at is how the politicians play the armed forces as a toy.  15 month deployments, no real benefits anymore.  

 Most of Americans are willing to work, This I believe, but the pride in doing a great job is lost in many as it is just too much.  And the faith in our government is gone.

 Simple math.  A one dollar an hour pay raise equal 40 bucks a week.  120 a month.  OK,  how long did it take to get that raise and how much did your cost of living go up?
How much did you grocery bill rise, rent, insurance or what ever.  Electric bill, sewer, water, the list goes on.

 and look at the profits these companies made over the last year.

 Yeah, people are pissed off.  I know I am and doing all I can to try to make a difference.  But I don't have the money!!!

 

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


[ Parent ]
I wonder if he got a taste of...
   what I once got when I traveled about with hair down to my shoulders in the very early 1970's up to '75. I learned a lot about little towns and especially their churches because when your on the road for as long as a year, you walk past a lot of churches on Sundays and their folks are practically the only ones out that day and on that two lane road at about noon and won't give you a ride whether sleet, hell, rain or snow. There were a few exceptions, but you can get about the same from the non-churchees too. May God bless the few who handed me burgers or donuts out the back door. amen and selah

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


Let me tell you about small PA towns
I grew up in one.  It was 98% white, predominantly evangelical "born-again" Christian.  Lots of hunters.  Lots of prejudice.  Not a single individual in that town was out, because they were afraid.

I don't want to stereotype and generalize and I don't have to, because I experienced it and I witnessed it.  My town voted for Rick Santorum; let me tell you how proud I am of that.  I'll admit that I'm now a grad student, so maybe I've climbed up the elitist ivory tower of liberalism, but I don't think so.  I think I've learned enough about the world and the people in it that my perspective is different than the people who grew up in a small town. They grew up in with a stagnant economy, MAYBE went to a college less than an hour away, and then came back to the same small town to live out their lives because the connection to that town was the only thing they could cling to or understand about the world.

If you think Obama's elitist, you're either looking for political points or YOU'RE bitter too.  Obama's point was that the past several governments haven't done anything to change or improve these towns.  That's clearly true.

The problem with our country (thanks to the media) is that we get bitter about truth.  Heaven forbid we actually acknowledge we're not perfect.  Heaven forbid a candidate not try to pander.

I'm starting to wonder if the educational divides in this country are just getting so wide that the people NOT getting good educations cannot even fathom the perspectives of people like Obama who can really see things as they are.

Ugh, sorry I got all worked up about this, but let's just say I don't miss my hometown, precisely for the reasons Obama described.  You might even say I'm a little bitter.


The only thing that the PA small-towners like less than
Democrats, do-gooders, shitty jobs, overdue bills, and big-city people, is being told that they are losers in this America. They KNOW deep down that they are losers. No amount of work is going to change that, unless they get out of Dodge, and those with an investment in a house are unlikely to do so, since the housing marker is even worse in the small towns, and they are unlikely to be able to afford anything anywhere else.

As for the guns, hunting is a favorite sport and topic of conversation.


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