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And what about those superdelegates?

by: Pam Spaulding

Wed May 07, 2008 at 06:15:00 AM EDT


Since Hillary isn't going anywhere (yet, though if you read Joe Sudbay, it sounds like Wes Clark called Hil and told her to drop out), it looks like the superdelegates are going to be forced to decide this thing.

Check out the NC superdelegate list and who's uncommitted. It's below the fold.

Pam Spaulding :: And what about those superdelegates?
From the N&O's Under the Dome:
Clinton

Gov. Mike Easley
Susan Burgess, Charlotte Councilwoman

Obama

U.S. Rep. G.K. Butterfield
U.S. Rep. David Price
U.S. Rep. Mel Watt
Everett Ward, former Democratic Party director
Dannie Montgomery, N.C. Democratic Party vice chair
Joyce Brayboy, public policy lobbyist
Jeanette Council, Cumberland County commissioner

Uncommitted
U.S. Rep. Heath Shuler
U.S. Rep. Mike McIntyre
U.S. Rep. Brad Miller
U.S. Rep. Bob Etheridge
Jerry Meek, chairman of state party
Carol Peterson, Buncombe County commissioner
David Parker, Statesville attorney
Dr. Jeanette Council
Muriel K. Offerman
Two delegates to be named at the state convention.

And what about those uncommitteds?  I guess you can classify these folks as the fence-sitters who don't want the responsibility of deciding so they'll just sit it out and hope Hillary drops out. One of them, Rep. Brad Miller, said:
Miller, a Raleigh Democrat, hasn't made an endorsement yet in the presidential race, Barb Barrett reports. He represents a Congressional district that includes some rural areas - the kind that are leaning toward Hillary Clinton - and may be hedging his bets.

In any case, Miller wasn't ready to endorse late Tuesday either - even though Obama won the popular vote in North Carolina.

"I'll probably announce a decision before too much longer," Miller said.

And he hinted that he might wait to see whether the race shakes itself out without his endorsement.

"This may not come down to the superdelegates after all," Miller said.

Ironically, Miller was one of the pols courted to run against Dole and declined (as did Hagan, originally. Miller had the support of the netroots as well.
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emailing superdelegates?
is there any movement on behalf of obama lay people supporters to email superdelegates?  is it even worth our time?  would they listen to our concerns, i dont know.

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I am getting suspicious
Of the superdelegates left uncommitted. What are they waiting for? Promises of cushy jobs? Cabinet appointments? Diplomatic jobs in tropical locales?

Or are they just afraid to throw in with one party or the other and watch others get the goodies when their candidate wins? That's what it is beginning to look like from here. Nobody wants to be the one to tell Hillary that they're going with Obama, but if the rest of the pack pushes him over the top, then they can go without apology and without offense against the Dynasty.

It's bullsh*t.

Stand up for what you believe, folks, and let the chips fall where they may. Don't weasel around waiting for someone else to take the risk so then you can jump on the winning team at the end. I think if the superdelegates from Maine were doing this, and one of them was my elected official, I'd let them know in no uncertain terms what I thought of such wishy-washy-ness.

In New England, we have a tradition of the annual Town Meeting. Registered voters in a town get together to go over, line-by-line, the municipal budget, any big purchases (fire trucks, police cars, new town office, etc.) and any major policy changes. Voters sit together in a large room, usually a school gymnasium, and cast their votes on most of these issues in public. We get a chance to stand up and speak for or against a particular issue, and then we vote. In public. We see how our neighbors vote and they see how we vote. Stuff gets decided. And then we (often) have a potluck dinner.

Sometimes there are hard feelings over issues, but mostly not. We know that we're not all going to agree on everything, but we're all in it because it is the right thing to do, and we respect that, and we can sit down to eat together when it's done.

Why can't the superdelegates do the same thing. Say what you think, support whom you really believe in, and then, when it's all done, we'll sit down together, have a potluck meal and support the D who prevails.

What's so difficult about that?


maybe they don't want to be seen
as trying to influence the voting still to be done in the remaining primaries.  i think that that is very noble.

it is an interesting dichotomy going on.  on the one hand, people are saying "superdels better not vote to overturn the public will".  on the other hand, people are saying "don't sit on the fence, superdels!".  i ask you, is it possible to have it both ways?  if i were a superdel, i might be tempted to remain publicly uncommitted just out of spite for the untenable situation i'm forced into.

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...does superdelegate mean?
They represent the whole state not a specific district? If so then do it and go for Obama.  At least I am sure Obama's camp is smart enough to have a minute to minute list so that when jobs do come up next year the wishy-washies'll all be home.

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It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
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there are no rules as to who superdels represent, other than themselves.
they are free to make up their minds based on whatever factors they personally choose: phase of the moon, popular vote in a geographic area, personal gain, anything.

Lurleen on Twitter

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Exactly...
Spite and pettiness are what the Dem hoi polloi deserve for expecting their leaders to lead. I mean, it's not as if our elected officials ever ran ads on TV promising to be able to make difficult choices.  

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HERE HERE!
Give 'em hell, Dawn- I'll start soaking the beans and whip up some dinner rolls...

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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Don't soak them beans
'till Friday night, deah. You know the rules.

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Ayuh
That'll give me time to find enough red hotdogs for everyone!


"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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