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NC: Obama says he'll partner with Elizabeth Edwards on health care

by: Pam Spaulding

Tue Jun 10, 2008 at 01:00:00 AM EDT


Barack Obama was in Raleigh on Monday, where he gave the kickoff speech for his two-week economic plan tour. That wasn't the big news, however, it was an aside not in his prepared remarks that drew attention.

Thirty minutes into his speech, Obama interrupted his prepared remarks and pointed to the wife of his former Democratic rival to declare his intention of her role.

"I'm going to be partnering up with Elizabeth Edwards - we're going to be figuring all this out," Obama said when addressing his proposed reform to the health care system.

This is great news, as Elizabeth Edwards is a real fighter on this issue. She penned a scorching takedown of John McCain's lame plan earlier this year. It's below the fold.
Pam Spaulding :: NC: Obama says he'll partner with Elizabeth Edwards on health care
Elizabeth Edwards:
[D]espite fuzzy language and feel-good lines in the Senator's proposal, I do understand exactly how devastating it will be to people who have the health conditions with which the Senator and I are confronted (melanoma for him, breast cancer for me) but do not have the financial resources we have. In very unconfusing language: they are left outside the clinic doors.

Senator McCain likes to start speeches with a litany of questions that, presumedly, less plain-spoken politicians would refuse to answer. Well, here are some questions he does not ask but, as that plain-spoken politician, he might want to answer:

   1. Under your plan, Senator McCain, would any health insurer be required to sell you or me (or those like us with pre-existing conditions) a health insurance policy?

  2. You say your plan is going to increase competition to the point that it actually lowers costs. Isn't there competition today among insurance companies? Haven't costs continued to go up despite that competition?

  3. You say that under your plan everyone is going to pay less for health insurance. Nice words, I admit, but they are words we have heard before. You must know when American families calculate the actual cost of health care, they have to include those deductibles and co-pays and not just the cost of the insurance. Are you talking about cheaper overall or just a cheap policy that doesn't kick in until after thousands of dollars of deductibles have been paid?

   4. Isn't the type of competition you are talking about really a rush to the bottom? As long as you allow insurers to underwrite and deny access, you encourage insurers to offer plans that may be cheap, but that get that way by avoiding people with cancer or other high-cost diseases or by limiting benefits and treatments, particularly if the treatment is expensive or might be needed for a long time. We all live in the real world; those of us lucky enough to have health insurance have seen how insurers cut coverage and up co-pays or deny particular treatments. The insurance company makes money when it doesn't have to pay for our health care. (I suspect that if they could, they would write obstetrical-only policies for nuns.) Doesn't your plan really encourage insurers plans to compete to avoid people with cancer or other high-cost diseases? Don't you think that the kind of competition that starts with a decent level of required coverage, that doesn't exclude the care we actually need, would be better?

Obama's a smart man to reach out to EE.
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Hmmmm.....
My first thought upon reading this was "So where does that leave Hillary"?  Many folks have speculated here and elsewhere that if she's not VP, Hillary would be a great administration point person on health care, since that's been her pet project since back in the day.

I thought something similar
"Hmmmm... so much for Hillary being the Healthcare Czar."

It makes me think Obama has no use for Hillary Clinton whatsoever and will simply let her go back to the Senate and say good-bye to her presidential aspirations.

I love how she still couldn't resist playing the gender card in her concession speech talking about not quite breaking the glass ceiling but certainly cracking it. I think if she would have been a bit more forthright and run a cleaner campaign that didn't turn off people she probably would have won. It had nothing to do with her being a woman.

Never try to train a pig. It's a waste of time and it annoys the pig.


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Hopefully...

Edwards can move him a bit more to the left on health care, towards a more genuinely comprehensive program.

Having strongly attacked Hilary Clinton from the right (and having used the same Republican "Big Government" talking points used successfully in 1993), it would be essentially impossible for him to embrace a plan more similar to hers.  Clinton's proposals were strongly influenced by John Edwards'.

Let's hope that partnering with Elizabeth Edwards will give him some cover for a more genuinely comprehensive plan.  

(Hey, a boy can dream, can't he?)

 


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...by which I mean
it would be politically consequential to hand control of the health care initiative to someone whose proposals he'd criticized so strongly.  Edwards may be able to push towards universal care--and towards a plan similar to her husband's, and therefore to Clinton's--in a way that could stave off criticism that he's adopting a policy he'd explicitly rejected.  That's the best case scenario; how likely, I can't say.  Ultimately not that likely, I fear and suspect.  Still, sorry I expressed it so clunkily above.

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Smart choice!
Elizabeth Edwards is an incredibly intelligent and articulate woman who doesn't pull punches.  She's dealing with the health care industry personally.  On the campaign trail, women constantly came up to her to share their own cancer or other health care stories.  She inspires people, particularly women, to not be shy about their challenges with the health care industry.

To me, this choice shows that Obama cares about health care enough to continue to learn from a woman who has first hand experience with the system, extensive legal knowledge, and who is a savvy campaigner.


and Senator Ted Kennedy.

Said that he was going to work for universal health coverage when he is back in the Senate.

Only by removing the PROFIT motive from Health Insurance will it ever be affordable. Stockholders of the Health Ins industry are stealing over 40% of all our Health Care dollars. Put that money back into health care.

See Physicians for a National Health Plan, PNHP. for statistical details.

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Why are AFL-CIO nurses against Obama's "heatlh care plan" for HMO's and Big Pharma?
Barack Obama has released his healthcare plan-and it is a bitter disappointment to patient advocates around the country who hoped that he would 'turn the page' on the broken healthcare system that is causing our nation so much anguish.

There are two basic options for healthcare reform: increase the role of health insurance companies or replace them.  Obama has chosen to give more customers and more public funds to the for-profit insurance corporations. It's an expensive gift and one that allows them to continue meddling in medical decision-making while raking in obscene blood-money profits.

Michael Moore asks "But who do you know who will defend the current method of healthcare delivery, administered by insurance companies whose central task is to minimize cost and maximize shareholder return?"

The answer to this question is: most politicians, including, apparently, Barack Obama

http://www.guaranteedhealthcar...

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  


I knew that...
was Obama's plan but I figure a lot of other people didn't and don't.  He's been touting more silver tongued give aways to HMOs, insurance companies and big pharma,  As John Edwards said....why should be neogiate with HMOs and big pharma...they are the problem not the solution.

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