Actual Freeper Quotes
The man has lost his mind/way. He appears he now worships at the feet of baal.
Just to refresh: it was televangelist Pat Robertson who predicted "earthquakes, tornadoes and possibly even a meteor" would hit Orlando for inviting gays to Disney World, and Rev. John Hagee who blamed Hurricane Katrina on a vengeful God angered over a gay pride parade in New Orleans.
If these things are true (it is the Al Qaeda Times, after all) then it illustrates that people who believe that homosexuality is wrong need to take a different approach. For thousands of years, people have predicted all sorts of calamities if God's will is ignored, and most, if not all, of those predictions turned out to be false. All they did was simply take away credibility from religion.
Sodom and Gomorrah were real cities, with real homosexuals (and heterosexuals) whose depravities condemned them, and a Righteous God annihilated them from the face of the Earth.
Warren and his ilk will be in their pulpits, preaching this false god of liberal situational-ethics, feel-good 'values' when fire and brimstone once again falls from the heavens, and they will join their spiritual brethren in the hereafter, and they'll look around and wonder why there it's so dark and smoky in 'Heaven'.
Guess what Rick? You ain't in Heaven.
One can't help but note that N'awlins was destroyed by a hurricane. exactly at the time the city was to host a huge, in-your-face gay pride march.....
I noticed the "God's punishment!" folks were noticeably absent on the Boy Scout Camp getting hit by a tornado thread.
The area where the parade took place and where decadence occurs continuously, the French Quarter, was barely damaged at all. The areas destroyed were an assortment of suburbs.
On the other hand, small and fairly conservative towns in Mississippi and Louisiana that weren't having gay parades WERE destroyed by Katrina. Same with Hurricane Rita. Your explanation?
Not to mention severe damage to a variety of military bases and important naval shipyards.
If Rev Osteen has opened the doors of his church to homosexuals based upon the above principles, more power to him and his congregation. If, on the other hand, he opened the doors of his church to homosexuals with the idea that he is implying that their sins should be ignored, then he is committing a grave error of, both, judgement and faith.
Well you see these things are God's punishment only when "they" decide they are.
Because it's true. However, there are also a lot of natural disasters that are a consequence of living in a fallen world and the good are affected along with the evil. I cannot tell the difference between natural disasters and God's direct use of them, not being God. I respect both and live in awe of a powerful God.
Natural disasters seem to be caused by physics. And all the natural disasters we experience now were clearly experienced in the world, often on far larger scales, hundreds of millions of years ago, when there were no sentient life-forms on earth to be "fallen" in the first place.
You guys need some reading comprehension lessons, I think. Notice, I merely pointed out the timing of Katrina, and implied that it gives the impression of some correlation. I didn't say that it necessarily was a specific act of God's judgment. It might have been, or it might have been simply another act of nature. However, your arguments are extremely shallow and insufficient, as they stand. Regardless of the status of the French Quarter, the city WAS rendered ineffective (and still is much so), and the FQ is a shadow of its former self to this day. As for other towns around the area, and the military bases - who knows? If it were an act of God's judgment, due to the universality of sin, there was enough going on in even these conservative areas to warrant judgment, so that their "innocence" as "collateral damage" would not actually be so.
So tell me - why do you think the destruction of military bases necessarily negates the possibility of judgment? Do you think the US military is on God's A-list or something?
Warren needs to take care that he is not worshiping a new "Lord", that of the God of PC.
Nice proactive shill piece for Barack Hussein. Oh, did I say Hussein? I'm sorry. That probably cheapens the debate. We shouldn't inject religion, race or ethnicity into our decision. Author manages to mention God, meth, homosexuality and prostitutes in such a way as to make sure Barry can't be hurt at all.
The sin of New Orleans was to live below sea level, with inadequate levees, in a region where a category 3+ hurricane was only a matter of time. The sin of Sichuan Province in China was poor construction (or as engineers like to say, earthquakes don't kill people, buildings kill people). The sin of Europe in 1348 was poor sanitation and rodent control- it may be that the superstitious Europeans fell victim to the Black Death merely because they decided that cats were associated with witchcraft, and got rid of them, allowing a rat population explosion.
Our powerful G-d also loves homosexuals, drug addicts, liars, thieves, tax-collectors, prostitutes, alcoholics, child molesters and murderers. He also loved Hitler, Idi Amin, and Stalin. He loves all of us and is no respecter of persons- so says His word. If he can love all of these people and show forgiveness when they repent from their sin, then we should show all these people love while they are still in their sin. Who are we to judge? I would hope that Rev. Warren advises these homosexual dads that they need to turn from this lifestyle to the Lord and then go and sin no more.
To their credit, some ministers have learned from their fallen fellows of the cloth. Four years ago, Ted Haggard's phone number was on speed dial at the White House, and he regularly boasted of his political clout as head of the 30-million-member National Association of Evangelicals.
