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CNN defends host's use of the word "faggot"

by: Autumn Sandeen

Sat Jan 27, 2007 at 15:11:02 PM EST


(Is it surprising? - promoted by pam)

I know I'm slow to this story, considering how I'm usually all over media portrayals of LGBT people. But this is one of those stories that's better talked about later rather than never.

Americablog has a story up on their site (dated Jan. 24, 2007) entitled CNN defends host's use of the word "faggot" - network slammed by lead gay anti-defamation group. GLAAD has a press release up on the story too.

It seems Glenn Beck, who hosts an opinion show on CNN's Headline News doesn't think the term "faggot" is anything more than a "naughty name." Just so I don't mistate this, let me excerpt the exchange between Beck and a guest, as reported by GLAAD:

Glenn BeckBECK: But anyway, Dave, what is the-what is the controversy? One of the guys called another guy a naughty name.

GLOVER: Yes. Basically you have Isaiah Washington, who's one of the stars of the show, who referred to one of his co-stars during a heated argument as a derogatory term for a gay man that starts with "F", rhymes with maggot. Did it a couple more times after that. And do you like how I did that?

BECK: Yes.

GLOVER: And?

BECK: Do you know that "The New York Times" wouldn't even print-I mean, we can say the word. We're having an adult conversation here. Wouldn't even print the word "faggot."

GLOVER: Right.

BECK: Wouldn't print it. I find that amazing.


John of Americablog reported that...
So CNN is now defending its host, Glenn Beck, and his use of the word "faggot" on the air, AND his suggestion that the word isn't very derogatory. Way to step in it even further, CNN. Faggot is the n-word to gays, and you think it's appropriate? Does CNN permit the n-word on the air? And would they permit their hosts to suggest that it's simply a "naughty name"? CNN has a host who is a loose cannon and who has already slurred Muslims, gays, and more. (Though, interestingly, I doubt CNN would let a host slur blacks or Jews, so apparently free speech has its limits even at CNN.) But rather than apologize, CNN defends their host who thinks the word "faggot" is appropriate for CNN, and who thinks the word "faggot" is simply a "naughty name."

I think CNN is about to see just how the gay community feels about TV networks who think the bigoted slurs are no big deal. Why? Because now GLAAD is involved. They're the gay community's largest anti-defamation group. That elevates the CNN controversy to a whole new level. And the fact that CNN is defending their host's use of the word "faggot," and his attempt to belittle the damage the word causes, is not going to sit well with the non-FOX-news crowd that usually watches CNN.


From GLAAD's press release:
"Beck's obnoxious repetition of the slur -- and his flip dismissal of it as simply a 'naughty name' - speaks volumes about his appalling ignorance of its impact," Giuliano said. "Beck added nothing to the audience's understanding of the issue, except perhaps to demonstrate his juvenile belief that repeating an anti-gay slur makes him an 'adult.'"

On Tuesday, GLAAD reached out to CNN's standards and practices department to discuss the matter. On Wednesday, a CNN spokesperson told GLAAD that Beck wasn't using the word himself, that Beck's show is an "opinion show" and not a news program, and that Beck was expressing an opinion about The New York Times' decision to not use the word.

"The ugliness of Glenn Beck's word choice and his ignorance of its impact really speak for themselves," Giuliano said. "Other CNN personalities have discussed derogatory slurs as part of this story without debasing that discussion. CNN has a responsibility to address Beck's crudeness and require that he adhere to basic standards of respect."


I used the comment section to CNN Headline News to let CNN know I won't watch either of the CNN networks as long as Glenn Beck is employed there; I let show sponsors Best Buy and Office Depot know I won't shop at their stores until they drop sponsorship of Beck's show.

An epithet isn't a "naughty name."  Sometimes folk in and out of the LGBT community need to remind broader society just how ugly a term "faggot" can be. For me, this is one of those times.

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I used the comment section to CNN Headline News to let CNN know I won't watch either of the CNN networks as long as Glenn Beck is employed there; I let show sponsors Best Buy and Office Depot know I won't shop at their stores until they drop sponsorship of Beck's show.

As have I.  Thanks for putting up the links :)

Electricity's for light bulbs!


As we have increasingly seen in the American media
. . .only heterosupremacist white males are allowed to air "opinions" - particularly ones using slurs against groups of other citizens. Of course, ask CNN when they are going to employ an "opinion" commentary to take potshots at straight white males, and you'll get silence.

It never fails to amaze me that these clowns, who always represent the very audience members who created the slur and attach violent attackes to it, who get away with claiming it is just an "opinion" when they bleat it on the airwaves.

Well, I've got a long list of people who I'd like to call some names, CNN - and my "opinion" is just as valid as some ex-drunken, born-again Mormon addictive personalities fantasies. Where the fuck is MY show?


Huh?
Are there more uses of the word you haven't posted here?

Frankly, I don't find his use of the term in the snippet you posted at all offensive.  They were having a discussion on the meaning and usage of a word, not using the word to insult GLBT people.

Do I dislike it when people use the word in a derogatory sense?  Absolutely -- it makes my skin crawl.  But it's quite possible to be just as derogatory and offensive toward gay people without using that word at all.  It's also possible to discuss the word "faggot"--as I am doing--without harboring any ill will whatsoever toward GLBT people.  (I'd hope I don't harbor any; I am one. :p)

A word is a sound, or a collection of visual symbols.  Nothing more.  The meanings we assign to such things are entirely arbitrary.  There is nothing inherently "bad" or "wrong" about words themselves, *no matter how evil the concept they represent may be*.  Mr. Beck was discussing the word itself, not using it for the concept it represents.

Unless there is more to the transcript than you posted, I don't think you have any basis for claiming offense.  If there IS more, I'd like to see it, so I can revise my comments appropriately.

-- Des


Nonsense
This argument below is a standard line of defense which is as empty of meaning as the deconstructionist idea that all texts are really about the inability to make meaning:

"A word is a sound, or a collection of visual symbols.  Nothing more.  The meanings we assign to such things are entirely arbitrary."

Sorry, the meanings might at one time have been arbitrary, but they are now established.  If a world is an insult, and listed as such in dictionaries, widely recognized as such in the culture and classified as such by linguists, then it is derogatory.

While I agree using the word in a report about its use as an insult is not in and of itself derogatory, merely recording a fact, I also can't agree with feckless Beck that it's a "naughty word."

"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant."  The Colbert Report


[ Parent ]
Nice rebuttal, Lev.
To dismiss a word as a sound dismisses what differentiates us from other mammals. 

Even seen a cow give birth?  It's a little lowing and bada-bing-bada-boom, the calf slides out as slick as a kid slides down a water slide.

Now, contrast such an event with cemetaries in places that didn't have high-tech delivery rooms.  Dead young women abound in those cemetaries because of.........speech.

Our crania are relatively huge because of speech.  It's the swollen speech center that rips childbirthing women.  And it's that swollen speech center that makes us a little more than hairless chimps.  We are speech.  Never underestimate the vast value of words.

Oh, yes.  Also never doubt Lev or Kevin.

Kevin, it would be interesting to have a talking head attack straight white males and especially those chickenhawks, like Bush, Cheney, and Limbaugh.  And Kev, I wish you had your own show.  Wouldn't that be Mr. Toad's Wild Ride?


[ Parent ]
You are confusing symbols with concepts.
"Sorry, the meanings might at one time have been arbitrary, but they are now established."

You're getting hung up on my use of the word "arbitrary" (which, in retrospect, wasn't the best choice of words).  The salient point of my argument is that a word is not its definition.  How commonly-accepted (or "established") that definition is is irrelevant.  The word itself is not derogatory; the concept it expresses is.

"If a [word] is an insult ..."

A word is not an insult, a word is a symbol.  An insult is a concept.  We use words (or symbols) to communicate about concepts.  They are not the same thing.

Thus, it doesn't even make sense to talk about "derogatory words", unless you are talking about the concepts to which those words refer.


[ Parent ]
regardless of technical ...
definitions.  With One of the guys called another guy a naughty name. Beck is making light of the use of the word faggot: it's a child calling another child a poopy head, or just a quaint, if misguided, insult. 

As a gay person, being called "faggot" is more than mildly annoying.  It's hate directed right at me for an extremely arbitrary reason. 

If CNN wants to host a serious discussion on the use of slurs against LGBT people, I am all for it.  Beck, with his track record, is no one that that should be moderating or leading such a discussion.

Some of Beck's best are at this Media Matters page:
http://mediamatters....

Electricity's for light bulbs!


[ Parent ]
"The Thinker" Beck Has A History

Mara Keisling blogged on this CNN/Beck story on the NCTE's new T-Equality Blog

Mara adds some insight on Beck as "The Thinker," reminding us of a May 2006 segment about a transgender teen in Indiana.  The teen was barred from a high school prom for wanting to wearing an appropriate prom gown after wearing girl's clothes in school for an entire school year -- Beck called the teenager "Dame Edna" and "freak boy."

I'm with N8NYC -- Beck is the wrong one to initiate a serious discussion of media's use or non-use of the term faggot.  This is especially true when one considers his the tenor of his previous discussion on race and gender, and demonstrated currently in how he minimized the significance of the term faggot.

-----
~~Autumn~~

As if there were safety in stupidity alone.
--Henry David Thoreau


[ Parent ]
Fair enough.
I agree, "faggot" is not a concept to be made light of.  Calling someone a faggot is much more serious than calling someone a poopy-head.

I don't watch CNN (or any TV, for that matter), so I don't have any basis on which to judge Beck's ability to lead such a discussion.  But regardless of his qualifications, he has the right to express his opinion (and CNN has the right to give him a venue in which to do so).

I believe his opinion is misguided.  As I said to Kevin below, I think the NYT made the right choice.  I don't think it would have been appropriate for the NYT to print the word when used in a derogatory context.  I also disagree with Beck's downplaying of the use of the word.

But I have no problem with the way in which he expressed his opinion.  It's fine for him to assert that "faggot" is a "naughty word", and it's fine for us to argue it's much more than that.  That's just "free and open discussion".  What I'm not OK with is the idea that his mere reference to the word is somehow inappropriate or disrespectful.  It's not.


[ Parent ]
Free and open discussion about what?
It isn't a "free and open" discussion...it is a controlled medium. And it isn't as if there hasn't been a discussion about the use of the "symbol." That's an old discussion. There is no one on the program re-explaining the use or non-use of the word in a journalistic sense.

What exactly would be the purpose of, say, a right wing bigotted con-servative "commentator" (whose own credentials for even BEING a commentator are questionable) to wish to lead a "discussion" about using the symbol? A commitment to accurate and full reporting?



[ Parent ]
Kevin, the Right is fighting for the right...
...to say "faggot."  They've been denied the n-word and they don't want to be stripped of another weapon.  The Right is all about weapons: they want more aircraft carriers and they want their slurs.*

*All for the glory of Jesus, of course.


[ Parent ]
...
"It isn't a "free and open" discussion...it is a controlled medium."

And yet it has clearly sparked free and open discussion.  Anyone is free to write a response and throw it online, for readers who care to look.  That meets my criteria for "free and open".

As to Mr. Beck's purpose, I refuse to speculate, and I consider them irrelevant to my objection anyway.  Autumn never touched on his intentions -- as far as I could tell, her objection was to his very use of the word, not the intention with which he used it.

If you have good reason to believe he is ill-intentioned toward the GLBT community (and used the word "faggot" to that end), then by all means, call him on it.  But I don't perceive that's what this post was about.


[ Parent ]
Des:
"Thus, it doesn't even make sense to talk about "derogatory words", unless you are talking about the concepts to which those words refer."

I think I argued something similar when I was 19 and so pleased with my cleverness that I practically pickled my mind.


[ Parent ]
And your point is...?


[ Parent ]
My point is that you're missing the point.
Your cerebral suppleness is winding you around the truth rather than penetrating it.  See my post below.

[ Parent ]
Over time, however,
these sounds have had certain concepts, or connotations, attached to them. Take any racial slur, for example.  The word in question has had such a negative connotation attached to it by the persons it is used to refer to, that even the parsing of the word conjures a visceral reaction.  And I think rightly so.

[ Parent ]
Yup.
But as adults, we have responsibility for our feelings.  We should have the maturity to look at that reaction, recognize and acknowledge it for what it is--an unthinking, conditioned response--and let it go.

[ Parent ]
I highly doubt that is the purpose of Beck's statements
. . .particularly when he represents, and speaks to a specific audience, which wishes to celebrate the assigned derogatory meaning to the word.

[ Parent ]
Des:
"But as adults, we have responsibility for our feelings."

We also have some responsiblity for the feelings of others.  This is called civility.  It is the consciousness of others.  When I lived in the country, I would walk half naked out to my garden and gather raspberries.  Now that I live in the city, I don a shirt before I pick the berries. 

I do not bellow, barechested, "Hear ye, hear ye, neighbors.  You are responsible for your feelings about my semi-nudity.  So, buck up, buckeroos!"


[ Parent ]
Damn you, Holly
Shirt or not, if you have a garden with raspberries, I am insanely jealous.  Rubbing it in my face is not very civil.

:-)


[ Parent ]
Oh, Kona,
I don't merely have berries, but 14 kinds of raspberries and 2 kinds of blueberries and I even have gooseberries.  And yeah, they're wonderful.

And you're welcome to them if you're ever in Wisconsin. 


[ Parent ]
Actually...
We are responsible for our feelings, because nobody else can be.  They're *our* feelings, after all. ;)

What you describe is compassion, not responsibility.  And yes, we do have a responsibility to be compassionate (or considerate of others' feelings).  But that is not the same as being responsible for the feelings themselves.

When I speak of responsibility for a feeling, I speak of three specific things: we must acknowledge our feeling, recognize that it is what it is (no denial, no rationalization, no story-telling), and we must *choose* our response to it (hence "response-ability").  These are things that you, and only you, can do.

As I have said before, Beck may have failed at being compassionate.  But (a) Autumn didn't argue that, as far as I can tell, and (b) without knowing his intentions, I'm not in a position to judge whether he failed or not.  (And no, mere speculation isn't enough.)


[ Parent ]
Apparently Beck understood that it was at least a "naughty word"
and even that decidedly downplayed "meaning" obviously points to the fact the host was well aware of its usage, particularly in connection with violent actions.

His attempt to make the topic of his "opinion" the reluctance of some news organizations to print or broadcast the word is the damaging action here. Beck knows its a naughty word and he damn well knows why and who created and used it in that manner. To pretend that there are no actions accompanying the created meanings of words which can often preciptate verbal and/or physical abuse is ridiculous.

Talk to some of the people who have been beaten by a group of gangbangers just cuz he walked out of a gay bar. Then ask yourself why Glenn Beck, a well-known con-servative, white heterosupremacist whining bigot, would think its important to be able to say and print that word, repeatedly if possible. Then ask yourself what words are used exclusively in conjunction with violent actions against heterosupremacist white males.

When that word falls out of Glenn Beck's mouth, there is a lot more suspect than just his curiosity over the use of a term. He's earned that every day that he spills his spit over the airwaves.


[ Parent ]
You misinterpret what I said.
"and even that decidedly downplayed "meaning" obviously points to the fact the host was well aware of its usage, particularly in connection with violent actions."

I never claimed that he wasn't.

"To pretend that there are no actions accompanying the created meanings of words which can often preciptate verbal and/or physical abuse is ridiculous."

I pretend no such thing.  On the contrary, I implicitly acknowledge this when I say, "... *no matter how evil the concept[s] they represent may be*.".

I've had the good fortune to never have been physically attacked, but I've been called "faggot" to my face before.  I know what that feels like.

"Then ask yourself why Glenn Beck, a well-known con-servative, white heterosupremacist whining bigot, would think its important to be able to say and print that word, repeatedly if possible."

You misinterpret me -- I do not agree with him.  I think the NYT was right in its decision not to print the word when used in a derogatory context.

But I also don't see anything wrong with the way in which he expressed his opinion.  I see nothing to warrant the kind of attack Autumn has made on his use of the word "faggot".  The fact that he is conservative is irrelevant, except perhaps to the content of his opinion itself (which I already stated I disagree with).


[ Parent ]
Not gonna lie....
In this narrow context I would say that it would be less offensive than any of the 3 scenarios I've described here
He's not discussing SSM.  He's not discussing queer folk.  He's discussing the word. 

However, it's obviously in poor taste and he could have gotten away with saying the "f-word".  I'd let'em off with a warning. 


[ Parent ]
My issue with it...
is just this line:

what is the controversy? One of the guys called another guy a naughty name.

What is the controversy?  Is Beck suggesting there was nothing wrong with Washington's negative use of the term?

If so, this is not about a word or a "naughty name."  This is about a network and a host downplaying an incident in which one actor called another a "faggot" as if it was just a poor word choice. 

Honestly though, it's almost as offensive to me to see them dancing around it, calling it the f-word that "rhymes with maggot" and then finally breaking down and just saying it.  That created a bigger adolescent ruckus than if he has just repeated what was said and been done with it.

This was obviously a newsworthy incident or it wouldn't have been reported at all.  Reporting the news like a grown-up, even if it involved repeating what was said, doesn't bother me a bit.  Personally, I want to know who says what so I'll know who to avoid. 

And the NY Times' decision annoys me a bit as well.  A four-letter obscene word associated with fornication is still just a fuckin' word!

I would be just as incensed if someone on the street called out to me, "Hey you little f-word that rhymes with maggot."  Nothing there most papers wouldn't print; offensive all the same.  Just cut the cutesy bullshit.


On a related note...
Faggoty Ass Faggot has expired.

KILLING THE GOOSE THAT LAYS THE GOLDEN EGG
From CNN's Glenn Beck website:

His radio show, The Glenn Beck Program, is heard on over 230 stations and is syndicated by Premiere Radio Networks. It is the third highest-rated national radio talk show among adults ages 25 to 54.

Beck's self-titled topical talk show on CNN Headline News debuted in May 2006 and continues to soar in popularity. Since the launch of Glenn Beck, ratings in all demographics increased double digits versus the same time a year ago. Glenn Beck has seen a 65 percent increase in total viewers and an unprecedented 85 percent jump in the 25-54 demographic.

And you wonder why CNN downplays his use of the F-word? He's their hottest ratings draw at the moment and is scheduled to crossover with Good Morning America soon.

How's does he do it? He's the flaming conservative disguised in moderate's clothing. He has the gift of making even the most implausible ideas seem somehow legitimate because he presents them in such a low-key, "Gee I just thought of this" manner.

He's even more dangerous than the Pat Roberstons of this world.


He's going to cross over to GMA?
Yuck!  And I used to love that show.  Of course, that's when David Hartman was host...

[ Parent ]
John "Pat Roberts Is A Big Girl" Aravosis is a fine one to be commenting about this!
So CNN is now defending its host, Glenn Beck, and his use of the word "faggot" on the air, AND his suggestion that the word isn't very derogatory. Way to step in it even further, CNN. Faggot is the n-word to gays, and you think it's appropriate? Does CNN permit the n-word on the air? And would they permit their hosts to suggest that it's simply a "naughty name"? CNN has a host who is a loose cannon and who has already slurred Muslims, gays, and more. (Though, interestingly, I doubt CNN would let a host slur blacks or Jews, so apparently free speech has its limits even at CNN.) But rather than apologize, CNN defends their host who thinks the word "faggot" is appropriate for CNN, and who thinks the word "faggot" is simply a "naughty name."

Replace "faggot" with "big girl" - remember several months back when John slandered women by calling Sen. Pat Roberts a "big girl?"  Many women responded with exactly the above points, and John responded with exactly the same statements that CNN and Beck are now using in defending using the word "faggot".  In the process, he banned hundreds of commenters, including myself.

Way to go, John --- get your back up when it's your group being slandered, but slander women with a misogynist statement when it's convenient for you to do so.

Social outrage is power protecting itself; it is not morality. -- Andrea Dworkin


Allies
Yes.

Apparently John Aravosis has not gotten the memo about why ally behavior is important yet.

Pity.


[ Parent ]
Pam, this is off-topic, but...
...I don't know how you do what you do.  Some hatemongerers have targeted you through their blogs, but you retain your decency and lucidity and you keep posting.  You are one cool cat.

thanks, Holly
The Blenders have my back, so I'm ok. :) You all are great.

[ Parent ]
Let's be honest....
Of course we have your back Pam. 

[ Parent ]
Oh no...
What's happening?  And where?

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

[ Parent ]
Weird day
I have been watching a video tape of some Canadian shows and one of them was a discussion about stupidity.  I couldn't watch the whole thing because it was, as fate would have it, too stupid to bother with but I did check out the stuff about Bush.  One of the things that this narrator was talking about is how Bush might actually be smart (see what I meant about it being stupid?) and acting dumb because that's what it takes to get ahead nowadays.  Beck having a show that *anyone* watches just amazes me, let alone that it's high in the ratings.  The stuff that comes out of his mouth makes Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh look sane!  At first I thought that this was another parody act due to his interview with Rep. Ellison but I now think that he is going for the Coulter crowd.

My America includes LGBT families.

Beck having a show that *anyone* watches just amazes me
That's  pretty much all I can add to this discussion.

[ Parent ]
I'm happy to help try to get Glenn Beck off the air
But I'm afraid I'm not honestly outraged about this particular incident.  Yeah, he's homophobic, but we knew that already.  And he's a complete frickin' blowhard.  And f*cktard.  Let's punish him for that.

I think the uproar over Isaiah Washington is... interesting--and good, I guess.  It's amazing to me and, overall, a positive sign that he has to go to rehab because he said "the f-word".  But, honestly, it's weird to me how, instead of substantively dealing with homophobia in society--like for instance the fact that we're prevented by law from properly taking care of our partners--we (America, I mean) come up with rules of etiquette instead.  You can hate all you want as long as you smile and don't say the taboo words.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto


CNN defends host's use of the word "faggot"
I don't know Mr. Beck, and I don't watch CNN because I prefer to watch the news, but I did see the video snippet in question, and it didn't seem that offensive, indeed it seemed forthright and adult.  Certainly the word is offensive when it's meant to be offensive and "Faggot" often is, but I don't think this was one of those times.  If a coherent, adult conversation is to be had on the topic, then resorting to PC prudishness by not saying "faggot" reduces the discourse to the the ridiculousness of the Fawlty Towers episode, "Don't Mention The War." Faggot also means a bundle of sticks for kindling and a kind of traditional English meatball. I'm with Des on this one; words only have the baggage we foist on them. 

Having said that, I love the expression on my American colleagues' faces when I take a smoke break and say I'm stepping outside to suck on a fag.  But then I'm naughty.


Brian, what you and Des are missing is that "faggot" was the final...
...word for many folks. 

Many homobigotted murderers have bellowed "Faggot!" as they took life from a homosexual citizen, brother, mother, father, sister, daughter, and son.  And as one rape ripples through a community's women, making them all afraid, "faggot" works in much the same way.  When a homosexual citizen steps out onto the street and hears, "Faggot!", that person doesn't know if it's a precursor to physical violence or a reminder of heterosupremism. 

Again, "Faggot!" is a declaration of death for some and so it can never merely be a naughty word.

"Poopyhead" is a naughty word for no one dies or has ever died hearing "Poopyhead!"


[ Parent ]
amen
Amen Holly. 

Electricity's for light bulbs!

[ Parent ]
What Brian's missing
Yes, Holly, I am missing that, because that was never part of the incident under discussion.  That piece was loaded onto the baggage cart after it left down this particular road.  People are assigning meaning to the exchange with Beck on CNN that doesn't belong there, just as they did to that lame joke Kerry told about being uneducated and in Iraq.  I do get the point as you will have seen in my previous post.  Where I disagree is in perspective.  Bush thinks Karl Rove is just wonderful and calls him turd-blossom; I loathe Rove and think he's an absolute shit.  Both of us call Rove virtually the same thing.  The perspective is somewhat divergent. 

I agree with you that we have to be sensitive to the feelings of others in a civilised society but political debates, and this is one, rarely adhere to that.  It is, in any case, absurd to have a conversation about use of the word faggot without using the word faggot.


[ Parent ]
Not Defending anyone but...
Where are the panties in a twist over the airing of photos and videos of the Westboro Baptist Church and the signs they wear with "God hates fags" and "Fag Church" and their use of the word on television interviews?  Why aren't people scrambling to have them censored on TV?

Yes I know the argument because it makes them seem that much further out there. But why is that not true for Glen Beck then?  Why doesn't it make him seem like he's just another fringe right-winger?

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -- Thomas Jefferson


CNN defends
One reader commented that it was just a word that meant funeral pyre.  yes, that's true.  gay men were used as kindling for witches' pyres in the middle ages.  its not just a naughty word, its a vicious, dismissive term often used as a prelude to violence and bigotry. 

basically....
...glenn beck has declared that "faggot" is just a naughty name and that the american public should be free to use it openly as they wish, and to illustrate his point, he uses it. 

when discussing it in the abstract, as in "isaiah washington called t.r. knight a faggot", i would agree.  that IS what happened on the set of grey's anatomy.  re-stating the unedited version of another person's comments should not offend, because it is general reporting.

but glenn beck devalued the term faggot as a preface to his comments, when we all know what it means and to whom it refers, and the consequences it carries.  a gay slur could be queen, or fairy, or any other number of others, but faggot (or its counterpart, dyke) debases a human being and opens the door for inflicted violence.  as holly pointed out, no one calls a man (gay or straight) a queen as he's getting the shit kicked out of him. 

this is something that comes up in freeperland all the time when it comes to the subject of name-calling and they don't get it: no one gets killed or subjected to second class citizenship over being a fatass or a nerd.  and christian slurs don't even exist.  glenn beck and the freepers have things in common, it seems. 

The gays stole my lunch money


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