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Poll: 70 Percent In Jamaica Oppose Any Rights For Gays

by: theantidesi101

Sun Jun 22, 2008 at 21:50:48 PM EDT


( - promoted by Pam Spaulding)

cross posted on Daily Kos

Let's be perfectly clear. As a person of Caribbean descent, the LAST thing I want to be in this post is condescending. I admit very upfront that I do not know much about Caribbean culture- or Jamaican culture in particular- however coming from a Guyanese family, with family members scattered throughout the Caribbean, I have a vague, but proud, connection to the region.

This connection, as I continue to discover and nurture it throughout my life, encourages me to speak out against the ills existing in my ancestral homeland. As progressives, we show our love and pride for our roots by always seeking out the better in those very things which give us meaning and comfort. As I explore the highly emotional details of rampant homophobia in Jamaica in this post, I do it out of love for the Caribbean region, which has thrived despite a history of colonialism, natural disasters, slavery and the shackles of contemporary neo-liberalism.  

theantidesi101 :: Poll: 70 Percent In Jamaica Oppose Any Rights For Gays
The details of some of the more recent attacks in Jamaica are gruesome at best, too much to read at worst:

One of the most recent attacks occurred on January 29 when  a group of men approached a house where four males lived in the central Jamaican town of Mandeville, and demanded that they leave the community because they were gay, according to Jamaican human rights activists who spoke with the victims.

The beginning of this account is a clear example of majoritarian tyranny in its purest form. The following account makes me angry beyond belief, and at the same time infinitely grateful to live in the time and place that I do.

Later that evening, a mob returned and surrounded the house. The four men inside called the police when they saw the crowd gathering. The mob started to attack the house, shouting and throwing bottles.

The authorities are theoretically part of an elaborate check in fair societies to keep the tyranny of majoritarian rule at bay. The signs of societal decay are most apparent when these protections are nonexistant.

Those in the house called police again and were told that the police were on the way. Approximately half an hour later, 15-20 men broke down the door and began beating and slashing the inhabitants.

The absense of protections for minority groups is not conservatism in action, it is anarchy.

Human Rights Watch, quoting local activists said that police did not arrive until a half hour after the mob had broken into the house - 90 minutes after the men first called for help.

The feeling of helplessness and isolation must have been horrifying for those men in their moment of need. In that crucial time, their community, their society, their government and their culture failed them. They were truly, in every sense of the term, alone.

I have no sweeping critique or indictment of homophobia, gender stereotypes or otherwise. I only have a strong sense of faith in the future and the inevitability of generational change and cross-cultural exchange.

The poll told us that 70% of Jamaicans opposed any civil equality for LGBT people. It also told us that 30% believe in some form of civil, cultural and political equality for LGBT people, or at least are open to form a favorable opinion.

Thirty-four percent of women would support pro-gay legislation... 20 percent of men would.

In that segment of society lies the hope for change, and as in any community, true progressives only need that small bit of hope to exist in order to commit to preserve and grow it.

One of the victims managed to flee with the mob pursuing. A Jamaican newspaper reported that blood was found at the mouth of a nearby pit, suggesting he had fallen inside or may have been killed nearby.

The police escorted the three other victims away from the scene; two of them were taken to the hospital. One of the men had his left ear severed, his arm broken in two places, and his spine reportedly damaged.

There have been no arrests.

The hope is bittersweet, since lives every day are interrupted by the societal prejudices which exist. Homophobia, gender inequality, economic injustic and global disparities are interconnected.

Those human rights activists who decry gender inequality, homophobia and other societal ills without linking them to the global disparity in wealth lack a comprehensive understanding of the issues.

Additionally, those "third world" activists whom claim that "quaint Western concepts" like womens' rights and LGBT equality must be put on hold until economic issues are addressed insult people in developing nations everywhere. People understand the basic right to human dignity. No education, wealth or status teaches such an inherent trait. Along the path of life some people are treated in ways that make them forget that basic fact of human conciousness.

Furthermore, more people than not understand women's rights or LGBT rights in their own way, not in the jargon of political or academic thought. They understand that a women working as hard as a man yes still being paid less hurts the family she is trying to support. They know that physical violence against some people somewhere makes everyone insecure everywhere. Such rights are INHERENTLY economic issues, just as basic levels of economic stability can be defended as a human right.

The tragic attacks against LGBT people in Jamaica should remind us here in the states about just how far we've come, but not to forget that in any part of the country this could still happen to one of us at any given time. We must also remember not just our solidarity with the LGBT population in Jamaica, but also our responsibility to LGBT people all over the world to push U.S. foreign policy in a way that respects all forms of human rights, including LGBT rights.

On the 5th of September in 1995, then First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton made a speech that ranks as arguably the greatest speech of her political career:

I believe that, on the eve of a new millennium, it is time to break our silence. It is time for us to say here in Beijing, and the world to hear, that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights.

A decade into the new millenium, it is time once again to broaden the discussion, and proclaim in front of the world that indeed, LGBT rights can no longer be seperated from human rights. Our rights deserve worldwide recognition and our strength will be joined by the women, indigenous, economically disadvantaged and others worldwide to continue the infinite struggle for equality.

To quote on of our brightest thinkers:

The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
     - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

From Pico in comments:

"[JFLAG- Jamaican forum for lesbians, all sexuals and gays, is] doing yeoman's work in trying to change the social atmosphere towards queer people in Jamaica... If there are people around with some spare change, I'm sure they could always use the help."

Visit J-Flag Here.

Letter to Bruce Golding, Prime Minister of Jamaica
February 27, 2008  

The Most Honorable Bruce Golding  
Prime Minister  
Jamaica House  
Kingston 6  
Jamaica  
Sent by facsimile  

Dear Prime Minister Golding:  

Letter from Bruce Golding, Prime Minister of Jamaica
Letter, February 28, 2008

We write on behalf of Human Rights Watch to express our concern that Jamaican police have again failed to protect individuals from homophobic violence and to investigate recent abuses against men suspected of being gay by members of the Jamaican community...

Human Rights Watch has documented an atmosphere of homophobic intolerance and violence in Jamaica in the past, as well as a pattern of indifference or reluctance on the part of the police to investigate such violence. This latest Incident confirms that serious gaps in protection of members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community remain. It is also clear that the conditions for violence continue to fester. Active investigation of such violence and prosecution of the perpetrators is essential to send a message at home and to the international community that all Jamaicans are equal and enjoy equal rights.  

The Jamaican Constitution recognizes the right to life as a fundamental right. Jamaica has also ratified international and regional instruments that enshrine this protection, including the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the American Convention on Human Rights (ACHR). In the 1994 case of Toonen v. Australia, the U.N. Human Rights Committee held that sexual orientation is a status protected from discrimination under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).  

We urge you to ensure a full and impartial investigation of this case and the disappearance of XXXXXXX, and that any persons responsible are brought to justice. We urge you to speak publicly and strongly against violence and in support of diversity and equality. We urge you as well to work closely with groups representing lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people in Jamaica, both in pursuing investigations of possible homophobic violence and abuse, and in building relationships of trust with their communities.  
Thank you for your attention. We look forward to your reply.  

Sincerely,  

Rebecca Schleifer  
Advocate  
HIV/AIDS and Human Rights Program  

Scott Long  
Director  
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Rights Program  

Cc: Hon. Dorothy Lightbourne, Minister of Justice  
R. Admiral Hardy Lewin, Commissioner of Police  
Mark Shields, Deputy Commissioner of Police  

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Author's Note: My name is Travis Ballie. My area of activism centers particularly around queer activism. My goal is to write diaries on DailyKos as a regular update concerning issues facing the queer community. I sincerely hope to gain a readership base of committed LGBT activists and our supporters. Such a base will only enhance DailyKos and provoke greater thought. Just as a note, I may use terms like gay, lesbian, bisexual transgender (GLBT) or queer (a substitute for GLBT).



Related Blend posts on Jamaica:
* A bashing in Jamaica
* Jamaican government - tourism first; violence against LGBTs A-OK
* Minister: Jamaica's homophobia is the fault of Brit slaveowners
* LGBT-affirming church in Jamaica faces violence
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Gareth Henry in today's Globe and Mail
'It was a total nightmare'
He is only 30, but already 13 of Gareth Henry's friends have been murdered. Now, far from homophobic mobs in Jamaica, the gay activist says he no longer looks over his shoulder
GERALD HANNON

From Monday's Globe and Mail

June 23, 2008 at 8:57 AM EDT

http://www.theglobeandmail.com...


boycott
Boycott everything and anything Jamaican!

This includes Red Stripe Beer, fabrics, and EVERYTHING else.  Do not go to Jamaica, They are murdering LGBT folks.  

Since it's not possible (nor moral) to kill nine for every one of us  --  the legal alternative is BOYCOTT.

Unless we can hurt them in a way they can FEEL, nothing will change.  

This is not about "attitudes", this is not about education.  It is a matter of "faith", and gov't policy.  

The fact the Police "whisked him away" actually shows a change  --  possibly caused by bad publicity.  At other times they stood around and watched while the mob did its "work".

If the "culture" includes killing homosexuals as one of its main features  --  let it go.

There is no future to a culture of murder.


I'm not a fan of boycotts
on the International level in this case. The model many people think of when advocating boycotting a nation are the famed South African boycotts of the late 20th century. Jamaica is a different scenario, and I am certain that any boycott, even if successful, would only stir up nationalist anger and cause even more hurt towards Jamaica's already battered LGBT community.  

Leonard Matlovich: He served for 12 years in the US Air Force, received exemplary ratings, won a Bronze Star and Purple Heart. His tombstone reads: "Here lies a man who was given a medal for killing two men and a discharge for loving one."

I'm not either
but I do believe that no gay person should go there.  It's too dangerous, period.  Besides, if the authorities can't be bothered to do their jobs, anything can happen with customs or local law enforcement.  

My America includes LGBT families.

[ Parent ]
Jamaica - highest murder rate in the world (straights included)
and is unsafe for straight travelers who step away from their cruise ships or hotels.

Just don't go. There are other places that are safer.


[ Parent ]
Remember these ads?
I don't think that they are from 1978, unless they ran it for a long time otherwise I wouldn't remember them very well.

They were trying to get away from that most-dangerous-vacation-spot-in-the-world notoriety even back then.  I remember jokes about "we won't kill you on the beach any more", etc.  I have a friend (who is gay) who did go there in the late 80's and he didn't like it much.  Not because he had issues due to being gay, just because once you get out of the tourist areas the amount of poverty is just incredible.  It's kind of sad, but poverty and crime does go hand in hand.  What gays are facing is that rage combined with hate.  You're right though, we should all stay home.  Boycotting goods though is just not going to be the answer.

My America includes LGBT families.

[ Parent ]
Totally agree
and it pains me that I cannot be open in many of the palces my  family lived or currently live in the Caribbean. But it is what it is, not safe

Leonard Matlovich: He served for 12 years in the US Air Force, received exemplary ratings, won a Bronze Star and Purple Heart. His tombstone reads: "Here lies a man who was given a medal for killing two men and a discharge for loving one."

F*ck Jamaica.
Mon.

Seriously, they can go to hell.
I will never visit the country, or buy anything Jamaican.

This is a stain on their soul.

Unbelievable that this can happen in the 21st Century!

More power to J-Flag, but the best thing would be to apply for amnesty in the US, just as soon as the regime changes.


I would honestly support the boycott
Any nation whose music enshirnes and incites violence against us(where Reggae singers who call for killing us have performed, violence against us has followed) and whose routine practices include murdering us ought to be isolated as being outside of acceptable civilization.

This sort of behaviour was practiced by Germany against the Jews.

Reggae singers who call for our deaths ought to be denied visas and the UN ought to condemn the nation as a rogue state

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


[ Parent ]
Boycotts of reggae/ska artists who incite violence against LGBTs
These boycotts have been successful in preventing the musicians from playing at large venues, and have caused their record labels to try to persuade them, not necessarily successfully, to stop writing and performing such songs. I don't know if protest has actually resulted in a drop in record sales.

[ Parent ]
Jamaican Activism
A lesbian in Jamaica and a Jamaiacan gay in Canada have started a website for Carribean lgbt's.  The site is on my blog http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...  I posted about it yesterday, Sunday June 21st.  I think I got the lead from Pink News out of the UK.

I agree whole heartedly about the horror that is going on in Jamaica.  I will take my lead as to response from Jamaican activists on the ground and from Amnesty International, and the IGLA, and the other international LGBT organizations.  In the meantime, you won't catch me traveling there!

The fight for full LGBT Equality is NOT over.  Be strong and be ready to really fight!  And read my blog in your spare time! http://ravenhurst-ravenhurst.b...


Islands in the sea...
Islands, even big ones, even with travel what it is today, can be very insular places.  The vast majority of the people on Jamaica cannot afford to travel, and don't get much of a view of other cultures.  This is a situation that could not be better designed to stultify social progress.

We can really thank the British for the present situation, it was their common-law that started this mess since homosexuality was not considered a crime before their arrival.

Now, Britain and all of Europe have moved on, but that original importation of old European culture has festered into a wound that may very well never heal.

This, my friends, is why imperialism is not a good idea, it co-ops and crushes native cultures and the result is always painful and never ending.


A Boycott WILL Be Effective
The same 'it won't work' arguments were made about the South African boycott and divestiture.  We all saw how that turned out.  

It's time to do SOMETHING to support our Jamaican brothers nd sisters since the Jamaican government isn't backing down or doing anything to protect them.

The Jamaican tourism industry earns 2 billion a year.  If they aren't going to change, then take away their pocket change.  

Boycott anything and everything Jamaican.


They do better in bobsledding than they do tolerance.
1. This island is filled with a whole lot of stepping razors (thugs).

2. Most of contemporary Jamaican music sucks anyway.  I missed the days of Bob Marley and Peter Tosh.


why not?
So, it appears that some say we should not boycott  --  but, you wouldn't catch any of those folks even consider going to Jamaica.  

"I will not go there  --  it's not safe, but don't boycott."

Does that make any sense?  

When 70% of the folks say LGBT people should have NO RIGHTS.  

When the status of women is also very low.  

When a simple misunderstanding can lead to your murder.  

When some of their most popular music glorifies the killing of LGBT people   ---   what possible redeeming value is there?

Boycott is not enough  --  How about a quarantine?


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