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Editorial: Republicans are fixated on gay sex

by: Pam Spaulding

Mon Jan 29, 2007 at 10:00:00 AM EST


Last week I posted about the unfortunate state representative in New Mexico Gloria Vaughn, who has submitted a marriage amendment bill to the legislature, spouting this bible-based nonsense:

"I just feel that it's the right thing to do, and maybe children would grow up with both parents and know who they are, and not come up against two ladies or two gentlemen. Although I'm sure that they make wonderful parents. But, I feel, according to the Bible, it strongly suggests that's why God created Adam and Eve."
--  Rep. Gloria Vaughn (Rethug), spouting her faith as a reason to discriminate
Jeff Stevens is the assistant editor of the Alamogordo Daily News, and he had quite a bit to say on the paper's editorial page. In a piece entitled Republicans: Stop thinking about gay sex, he doesn't hold back on calling out the bigoted lawmakers who have their priorities on nether regions of homos instead of taking care of the many needs in the state. 

Read after the flip, as well as how tactics shape amendment fights -- and what it might mean in North Carolina.

Pam Spaulding :: Editorial: Republicans are fixated on gay sex
It seems to me Republicans spend more time thinking about gay sex than any other group of people in the known world even more so than gay people trying to find other gay people with whom to have sex.

Of course, I'm talking about our very own esteemed state representative Gloria Vaughn. In case you missed the latest, Vaughn has proposed we amend the New Mexico State Constitution to define marriage as a union between a man and a woman.

Now I could criticize this move from so many angles that frankly my mind fizzles and goes blank, making it hard to choose from which direction to attack.

Nevertheless, I'll give it my best.

How about: It's is a colossal waste of time.

Evidently, every New Mexican makes a decent living wage. No child will go to bed tonight with an empty stomach, because they are all well fed. For that matter, no child will go to bed with an empty mind because our education system is tops in the world.

Evidently our streets are free of drugs. Every New Mexican has a job and can feed their families with a $5.15 minimum wage. Our roads are the best in the nation. Everyone in the state has access to affordable health care.

We can only assume such is the case, because Vaughn isn't seeking to amend the Constitution to solve any of those problems. No. The most important item on her agenda is to make sure that gay people can't marry one another in the state of New Mexico.

...So please Mrs. Vaughn, and any other Republican who supports this, let's work on some issues that might actually improve the lives of New Mexicans. After all, time is short. There's only 60 days in the session and while you all were arguing about legislative initiatives to ban gay marriage last year, you failed to pass any laws to improve the minimum wage.

In other words, some poor mom will cry herself to sleep tonight because her kids went to bed hungry. She's trying to figure out how to make ends meet on $5.15 an hour . She doesn't give a tinker's damn about who's sleeping with who.

Responses like the above are what I hope will appear in NC newspaper editorials and op-eds if the proposed marriage bill actually makes it out of committee (see my earlier post, At the NC Democratic Party Bloggers Conference, for possible awful developments in this area).

You've got the shaming tactic above, as well as the fairness argument, the civil rights doled out/taken away by the public argument, the faux Christian vs. inclusive Christian perspective, poison pill bills that point out the hypocrisy (banning divorce, limiting marriage to couples capable of procreating), etc.

The whole arsenal has to come out when fighting an amendment, as many equality groups have seen, and sometimes you still don't win if the bill gets to the ballot box.

The reality is that the defeat of a marriage amendment in Arizona occurred because the issue was framed as harming straight, single seniors who are cohabitating.

Look at the breakdown of the vote in Arizona:

Against the amendment:
* moderates
* college grads
* white men
* white women
* voters earning over $50K
* younger voters
* city dwellers

Split:
* Hispanics

For the amendment:
* majority of blacks
* seniors
* conservative Republicans
* folks in the stix

The appeal to people's sense of fairness to the state's gay citizens was purposely avoided -- sad but true. It also probably helped that the state is more libertarian in nature.

I can see similar splits here in NC, but the numbers of folks in the "For the amendment" bloc will certainly outnumber the others. A News & Observer poll in 2005 found that 61 percent of North Carolina voters would vote for an amendment.

The horror of an amendment being placed on the ballot is two-fold -- 1) civil rights should never be determined at the polls and 2) to add insult to injury, since so few people actually vote,  you could have a small slice of an entire state's population determining the civil rights of 100% of a state's gay population. That's tragic.

Blender Callie noted this is what happened in her state of Tennessee -- last November a quarter of that state's voters approved an amendment by a landslide -- 80% to 20%.

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Thanks for the props, Pam!
It is unfortunate to think that when it comes to these amendments we only have a fraction of the population actually voting on them. 

The fundies outnumber us.  Maybe not by much but they still do and sometimes it depends on where you live.  The margin will be bigger in the South because there's many more fundies in the South (at least tend to be).  Then there is a huge portion of the state in the middle that don't see the relevance or importance of these amendments so they don't vote either way.

As mentioned above, those middle folks don't give a "tinker's damn" about it either way.  They're trying to pay their bills and feed their kids.  If it doesn't affect them, they bypass it.  It's human nature.

If who I marry is such a national crisis that we waste precious time and energy with pushing amendments through committee, then why not require at least a majority of an entire state's voting population to approve such measures?  Sometimes all it takes is a majority of those who cast a vote and as we know not every single citizen votes.


Just to be a little snarky. . .
I'd like someone to explain to me what God says about bad hair dye jobs? Does Gloria really believe God intended her to color her hair and paint her face as a testament of social deception?

Kevin,
Mother Teresa basically founded hospice centers.  Folks went to her to die. 

And she irked a lot of folks in the Catholic Church because she was soooo needy when it came to her vow of poverty.  If she visited a place, her lodging would have to be stripped of carpeting and other comforts, which was wasteful, time-consuming, and expensive.  BUT WHEN SHE WAS DYING, she took a private jet to a chichi healthcare facility in Cali. 

"She deserved it," some say.

But that's not the point.  Tipping into the grave, she panicked.  She did not submit to God's will, which Catholics believe permeates their lives.  She resisted God's will.  And so does every face-painting woman, who does not present herself as God designed.  So too with botox and plastic surgery and waist-cinching garments.  So too with hair-cutting and shaving and hair-coloring.  But most of all, so too with swallowing pills and undergoing surgeries to live another day, which deny the natural decay of our bodies and death.  For all the chittering on the Right about what's natural and God's will, most people go out like Mother Teresa, seemingly not believing in God by submitting to God's will.  On average, 65% of all healthcare expenditures are spent in the last 2 months of a person's life.  This would seem to oppose God's will and nature's order.

Of course, the fundies and other folks would argue that the docs and nurses are performing God's will.  But considering that tens of thousands and often hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent for a few more weeks of life, is it God or people who choose a few more breaths for an old man in his death bed?  And, of course, those few more breaths come at the cost of a lifetime of breathing for a starving village in the Sudan, whose village could be fed for decades with the money poured into a dying body.


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Golden rule:
Alleged Christians were told by the Christ to shelve all other divine commandments treat others as they'd like to be treated, too many alleged Christians treat their gay neighbors very, very differently than they prefer to be treated.  Their innate selfishness emerges in a desire for preferential treatment.  Now, we all want to feel superior and special, but when superiority is codified, those people who voted for that are neither protectors of the Constitution or following in Jesus's footsteps.

Amen
well said Holly!!!

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Adam and Eve
I would have to check, but I don't think the Bible says that Adam and Eve were created to have children.  Adam was created first and then God decided that Adam was lonely.  If the sole purpose were pro-creation, wouldn't God have created them Adam and Eve simultaneously, as he apparently did with animals?

Good thought, but...
...you are trying to use logic and reason against a mindset that is essentially lllogical. 

It's amazing how much magical thinking is evident in the ultra-fundamentalist/Dominionist worldview.


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Good point
And if I remember my Bible correctly, the children (i.e. the sex) didn't come until after the Fall from Grace.  I always thought that God created the Garden of Eden for his two perfect creations who were unaware of their and the other's nakedness until the temptation.  It wasn't until they fell and were aware of their and the other's nakedness that they did the hokey pokey.  All that means for het sex and het procreation is that it's a manifestation of our first carnal desires (one we brought on ourselves, btw).  I don't remember Adam and Eve saying let's get married and have babies.  I just remember them covering themselves from each other but eventually giving into their desire.

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Shameless Plug
What happens when Old Testament characters are forced to live with each other in front of cameras 24/7?  Do yourself a favor and rent "The Real Old Testament" by Paul & Curtis Hannum on DVD (it's like MTV's reality show "The Real World", but with Adam & Eve, Cain & Abel, Abraham & Isaac, Lot & his daughters, etc.)

(The film is by the guy who I competed against in the talk radio contest.  I promised I'd shamelessly plug it whenever I get the chance.  It's all improv and one of the guys in the film [Abraham] plays a recurring character on "Scrubs".)

"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson


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WAIT WAIT WAIT......
ok, wasn't it Eve who first took the bite from the apple and Adam followed. This was temptation that Satan offered and because they took that bite they were punished by fig leaves and children. So in essannce, we wouldn't be here if it weren't for the devil? Or else Adam and Eve would still be alive and well roaming the earth with each other alone had they not taken a bite of the apple?

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Yup, we're Satan's fault
Between Satan and some incest (where did Cain & Abel's kids come from?), that's what led to us.  Satan -> apple -> Eve -> naughtiness -> sex -> kids -> some gay kids -> gay marriage!  See, gay marriage is the work of Satan!  Had Eve not eaten that apple, there'd be just one heterosexual marriage, period.  And no divorce or remarriage or adultery, either.  (Well, I suppose Adam could divorce Eve and remarry her, but why?)

"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson

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QUEERING THE BIBLE
Maybe Cain killing Abel was really a lover's quarrel - there not being any women around to satisfy those nasty carnal needs passed down by Mommy, Daddy and Mom's Apple Pie (and who hasn't heard that euphemism for female genitalia?)

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IT'S A PARABLE PEOPLE
Firstly, Eve was not the first woman created as company for Adam. She was preceded by Lillith. What happened to here and where she went I'm sure someone in the Blend can tell us.

Secondly, there are two other scenarios (take your pick):
  A) Adam and Eve were not the only people in the Garden Of Eden. Otherwise, as indicated elsewhere we are all descended from incest. (Which is also true when you fast forward to Noah's Flood and the repopulation of the planet with the offspring of one family - inbreeding actually, not quite incest). This is also predicated on the births of Cain and Abel occurring prior to the expulsion. That however is not in my memories of what I know about the Bible.

  B) The Garden Of Eden (which archaeologists feel they have identified as an actual earthly location) was just one place where there were humans on the planet. Upon their expulsion Adam & Eve joined these other humans and all that begatting in Genesis began.

When Eve ate the forbidden fruit, the knowledge of their nakedness and the shame that came with it was what they were being shielded from. This is the genesis of original sin - the nakedness we are all born with. Thus they were expelled from the Garden.


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Republican fixation on gay sex parallels Nazi Germany in the 30s.
The Treaty of Versailles in 1919 heaped crushing conditions on Germany.  It lost its coal producing valley and was saddled with reparations.  Germans suffered and sought a scapegoat in their Jewish neighbors.

America's neocons have saddled us with an equivalent of reparations.  The national debt has doubled in the last 6 years.  BushCo gave Paris Hilton and her ilk 5 tax cuts and increased spending.  China and Japan now own us, much as your bank owns your house.  And due to our profligate ways (big houses/big cars), we broke the Earth.  Its thermostat is reset to "slow bake." 

But rather than face the debt and global warming, fundies face gay citizens and blame them for the slow collapse of America. 

True story: I was in a restaurant once and I heard a guy say, "We should do to the queers what the Nazis did to the Jews."

If there is a Heaven and God, then God will have some sort of divine light that he'll shine on the hands of the recently deceased.  This light will reveal bloodstains, however indirect.  And the hands of people like Gloria Vaughn won't pass the test.  For homobigots who bash with their fists follow the lead of homobigots who bash with their tongues. 


From my own father . . .
. . . I grew up hearing that gay people should be lined up against the wall and shot.  He changed his tune significantly when he learned I was gay, but hearing that from my dad's mouth while I grew up was crushing to my soul.  It inspired within me a generalized anxiety that just beneath the "civilized" veneer of my neighbors lies a bubbling, churning hatred that is waiting for a cause to erupt.

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Yup...
...and its about two missed paychecks away from erupting.

"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson

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And that's why ....
if and when it comes to that, we keep a rather large arsenal for crowd control that includes medium- and large-caliber handguns, shotguns, assault rifles (all of which are kept clean and well-stocked with high-powered ammunition), combat knives, and a large, slavishly loyal, hyperaggressive Catahoula/German Shepherd mix.  Bring the fundies on.  To paraphrase some of the anti-Islamic fundamentalist sentiments voiced after 9/11: The American Taliban have a burning desire to meet their God.  If they want to come to our home, we'll happily volunteer to arrange the meeting.

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Man, that's tough, Josh.
I'm sorry you had to hear that. 

You're probably right about the peril and the fear.  We are the same species that hosted the Inquisition, the Holocaust, and slavery.  We're the same animal that once packed a picnic and took the family to lynchings, where the kids would smile and pose for a pic beside the castrated corpse.  And I think violence often begins with words.


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Damn Josh!
I heard some shitty things, but not like that!  I agree that I lived with that fear too, but from others you expect it.  The last place you expect it is from family, but if family can feel that way, what stops your neighbor, your coworker, etc?  Nothing.  They're even more disconnected from us and more capable, I think, of releasing their pent up fears and hatred on us.  After a lifetime of hearing such nonsense in your home and in your church, it's bound to roll over into your life.  Like was said above, just two paychecks away from looking for a scapegoat for all of the ills in your life.

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I've said in other threads that hard times are coming.
The Bush administration has impoverished America.  And tens of millions of Americans have impoverished themselves, by buying electronics, cars, and houses that they can't afford.  I urge all of you to brace yourselves for what's coming.  Live simply and eliminate debt. 

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Thanks, everyone.
The funny thing is Dad did a total 180 when he found out I am gay.  he is very tolerant, and even asks after my ex (after we broke up for four years!).  It is crazy. 

When he was saying those things, I don't think he was even thinking of the human ramifications of what he was suggesting.  He was simply parroting a socially instilled line.  He never thought to question it until he realized he had a gay son. 

I don't think my Dad is an aberration.  To think that such malice can be held without so much as a question to its validity is terrifying.  People ask all the time why ordinary Germans so easily buckled under the Nazis, informed on their neighbors, and let the Jewish people be rounded up in cattle cars.  For centuries, tensions existed between the Jews and the Christians.  The Nazis didn't invent anti-Semitism. It was there all along for them to exploit.

Likewise, the AFA, Porno Pete, Christian Coalition, Focus on Your Family did not invent homophobia, but they sure as hell make a living off it.


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NOT QUITE A COMPARISON
The prewar conditions in Germany were actually fairly gay-friendly. In fact the majority of Hitler's original inner circle were gays.  Then, as protection for his own (rumored) closet when other high military officials complained about the gay men Hitler associated with, came the night of the long knives in which these men were dispatched back to their maker.

Let's not also forget that the new wave of anti-gay oppression came in response to the end of the Cold War when Queers become the new Commies so that the mercenary mnisters had to new enemy to help them raise money.


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Factually incorrect.
The prewar conditions in Germany were actually fairly gay-friendly. In fact the majority of Hitler's original inner circle were gays.  Then, as protection for his own (rumored) closet when other high military officials complained about the gay men Hitler associated with, came the night of the long knives in which these men were dispatched back to their maker.

It is true that Germany, particularly Berlin, was gay friendly during the Weimar Republic, which lasted from around 1920 to 1933, when the Nazis took over.  But it was not true after the Nazis took over.

It is also incorrect that a majority of Hitler's original inner circle were gays.  The only one who can be confirmed to have been homosexual was Ernst Roehm ("oe" is "o" with Umlaut, the two little dots over the "o") who was with the Nazi party and Hitler (Hitler did not start the Nazi party) from fairly early on until Hitler assassinated him in June 1934.  Roehm had been a German army officer during WWI, and after he joined the Nazi party he was head of its SturmAbteilung (the SA, the "brownshirts," not to be confused with the "blackshirts," the SS), essentially their version of a private militia that had been organized long before the party took power in 1933.  There is no credible evidence that Htler had assassinated Roehm in 1934 because Roehm was homosexual, as protection for his (Hitler's) rumored homosexuality, or because high military officials complained about Roehm's homosexuality.  The reason that Hitler assassinated Roehm in 1934 it much simpler than that: Roehm was pushing to have the SA supplant the regular German army, the Reichswehr, Hitler decided that he needed the regular army more than he needed the SA, and he needed to get rid of the SA and the most efficient way to disband the SA was to get rid of its leadership.  The night that Hitler assassinated Roehm, he also had much of the upper levels of the SA assassinated; some were homosexual, many were not.

I don't know where you got the idea that the majority of Hitler's original inner circle were homosexual.  It sounds like a parroting of the claim made by Scott Lively in his anti-gay libel The Pink Swastika.  Scott Lively and others peddle the book to religious right operations in an attempt to smear gay people.  That book is about as bad a libel to homosexuals as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is to Jews.  The claims that Lively made in his book have been refuted in The Pink Swastika Annotated; copies are (or have been) available on-line--do a google search.

If you would like some more information on the Nazi terror against homosexuals, take a look at Homosexuals and the Third Reich


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An argument I never hear....
One argument that I never hear to counter the "Bible Based" one man - one woman marriage advocates: How many wives did King David have, how about Solomon?

Really?
Then you don't read the comments here very often.

In fact, "one man one woman" is the exception throughout history, borne only of an industrialized agricultural society that can support a family (barely, these days) without needing all the extra familial labor to tend the fields.

"If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be in as sorry a state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny." -- Thomas Jefferson


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Sorry
I'm new here <>

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That's OK, searod
You have a good point.  Unfortunately, fundies aren't big on studying history or understanding biblical context.

"If the apocalypse comes... beep me." -- Buffy Summers

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AMEN!
I would love to see that editorial in Oklahoma's newspapers, as well.

Hey, if anyone is in Oklahoma or nearby:

"Don't Ask/Don't Tell Panel" at Oklahoma State University!


Rather than fuss overmuch about persecution
I respectfullly suggest you remember this quote:

First they ignore you.
Then they laught at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.

- Mohandas Ghandi

It's far, far, far better now than it was when I was a teenager in the 1970's or before I was born (in 1960).

I can see the difference.


WOW!
What a wonderful quote!

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Thanks!
I think so, also.  I often think of it when I read of persecution, or even more so the advocated persecution the religious right wishes it could carry out.

Gandhi was a very wise man, although ultimately he was not able to overcome Hindu fundamentalism and was assassinated by it.


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