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"a leading source of radical homosexual propaganda, anti-Christian bigotry, and radical transgender advocacy."

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Ex-gay "Christian" activist James Hartline on Pam:
"I have been mocked over and over again by ungodly and unprincipled anti-christian lesbians."
(from "Six Years In Sodom: From The Journal Of James Hartline," 9/4/2006, written from the "homosexual stronghold" of Hillcrest in San Diego).

"Pam is a 'twisted lesbian sister' and an 'embittered lesbian' of the 'self-imposed gutteral experiences of the gay ghetto.'" -- 9/5/2008



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"A nutty lesbian blogger."
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BLogCabin & The Blend

by: davidhart

Tue Jul 01, 2008 at 14:52:31 PM EDT


(NOTE FROM PAM: I'm glad that David wrote this; it gives us a chance to have an open conversation about what  the current battle for the soul of the GOP is about and how high a price does the LGBT community have to pay for continuing to enable John McCain's candidacy by promoting the glad-handing with the LCRs as anything other than a condescending pat on the head as he goes on to publicly embarrass the group by openly supporting a discriminatory state marriage amendment.  I sincerely hope the LCRs see that an endorsement of this man is akin to endorsing the strategy he is employing by choice.  My full response is below the fold as opposed to in the comments. - promoted by Pam Spaulding)

"Things always taste sour over at Pam's House Blend.  But lately, all Pam is serving up over there is a "blend" of ignorance and name-calling.

Pam absolutely loathes Log Cabin Republicans...and that's fine.  We understand that.  We're okay with that.  We're big boys and girls.

But, like many angry Democrats who refuse to understand where Log Cabin Republicans are coming from or what we do on a daily basis, Pam resorts to the same familiar lines about Log Cabin when her steam runs out-and that's often."

http://www.blogcabin.net/?p=158



Caveat: Here in NYC, we see the GOP a bit differently. There was a time when Mayor Rudy was actually sane - I voted for him at least once, possibly twice. I voted for Bloomberg. I voted for, contributed to and supported Bill Green (R) when he was my congress critter (I have also voted for Hillary twice and Chuck Schumer at least twice).

It seems to me that - if we want respect - we need to give it. Gratuitous argumentum ad hominem is disrespectful. It is fair to attack the GOP on issues; They have created an unmitigated disaster. However, it seems unfair to attack a Republican who happens to be gay for being, well, a gay Republican. Notwithstanding the contradiction in terms with some Dobson and Perkins - and a dash of Bauer for good measure, these are people who are trying to change their party. They are doing so in a spectacularly hostile environment. I give them credit for courage while I would question their judgment on the issues. My advice: Keep it civil and attack the argument in contrast to the arguer.

davidhart :: BLogCabin & The Blend

My response:

Pam absolutely loathes Log Cabin Republicans.

I do NOT loathe the LCRs, though others here might.

Fighting for our rights would be a heck of a lot easier if we had both parties vying for our vote. The fact of the matter is that despite how many years of trying to work from the inside, the LCRs continue to embrace and endorse candidates who have ZERO interest in actually acting on ANY civil equality issues. How is that helpful?

I was actually proud that the LCRs sat out 2004 rather than reinforce GWB and his crew of closet enablers. I was glad to see Mitt Romney earn the LCR ire for his flip flopping pandering to the right.

I fail to see how one can interpret anything other than laughable the fact that the LCR made a declaration that it was going to educate the LGBT community about the real (purportedly fair) John McCain. I didn't say it, the organization did. I'm still waiting for that education that will show us why he deserves our votes.

But alas, as was easily predictable, John McCain met (in private), commiserated with and whispered into the ears of the LCR -- which didn't bother issuing any public information about any progress made with the Arizona senator regarding civil rights issues.

The LCR was quick, however, to issue an APB about the SCOTUS ruling on gun control laws. I took that lightning flash response as an indication that the lack of publicity about the McCain meeting had little to do with a lack of time to churn out a press release and more to do with a lack of movement on any issues by the senator.

On the other hand, John McCain has spent a great deal of time in public and on his official schedule, kowtowing to the right-wing extremists in the same old GOP strategic playbook, and went out of his way to endorse the marriage amendment initiative in California. He has stated that he's going to take SCOTUS in a rightward direction, another key matter that weighs heavily on our rights.

Quite frankly, I don't know how the organization addresses the quandry John McCain has left the LCRs in -- that level of disrespect for the group is indicative of how deeply sick that party is in terms of inattention to the fact that it is on the wrong side of history.

The far-right is already touting the marriage issue as a winner for the GOP (it is obviously a party bankrupt of new ideas if the best they can offer is McSame). See Gary Bauer's "Can gay marriage save the GOP again?" citing selective information to bring the reader to the conclusion that gay-baiting is the way to go in 2008 because it "worked" in 2004:

A little-discussed academic paper titled "Did Gay Marriage Elect George W. Bush?" - presented at the 2005 State Politics and Policy Conference in East Lansing, Mich. - illuminates precisely how much of an impact the issue had. Using national and state-level survey data, a team of university professors employed logistical regression analysis and made some fascinating discoveries. For instance, the direct priming effects of the marriage amendments led to a 9 percent increase in the probability that a voter would pull the lever for Bush, even after accounting for constant partisanship, religion, and other salient issues (Iraq, economy and terrorism) and demographic factors. The increased probability of voting for Bush grew to 20 percent among voters who felt strongly about the marriage issue.
The LCR's Patrick Sammon knows this, calls Bauer out, and urges the party to stop politically gay-bashing in "Republicans beware of marriage politics". This is spot-on:
Matthew Dowd, Bush's chief strategist in 2004, says the marriage issue was not the reason Bush won reelection. The New York Times quotes Dowd as saying, "At best, it doesn't move voters, and at worst for Republicans, it moves them against them. Not so much on the issue, but it becomes, 'Why are we having a discussion on this issue when we should be talking about things that matter, like the economy, or health care or the war?'"

Even so, Bauer's argument doesn't hold water, because 2008 is not 2004. The politics surrounding marriage are changing quickly.

In 2006, the five Republicans who used marriage most prominently as a wedge issue all lost. Sens. Rick Santorum (Pa.) and George Allen (Va.), Reps. John Hostetler (Ind.) and Anne Northup (Ky.), and Ken Blackwell (in his race for Ohio governor) tried to win with anti-gay campaign tactics. They didn't necessarily lose because of their tactics, but these tactics didn't prevent them from losing, as they might have a decade ago.

Support for marriage equality is growing. Pew Forum polling shows a 6 percent increase in support for marriage equality in the past four years. A recent Field poll in California showed 54 percent of respondents opposing an anti-marriage constitutional amendment that will be on the ballot in November - an initiative Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger opposes. And many who oppose marriage equality support civil unions - nationwide, combined support for allowing marriage or civil unions for gay and lesbian couples approaches 60 percent. It's only a matter of time before the law treats all families equally.

Acceptance of loving, committed gay and lesbian couples is on the rise and, consequently, the marriage debate does not have the same heat it used to. Republicans who try exploiting the issue for political gain this November will fail. And they'll further alienate the young people who are already leaving the GOP in droves.

Patrick is absolutely right. Perhaps the GOP needs to stop being enabled and it must be allowed to fail. The Log Cabin Republicans need to take a principled stand in 2008 - that while McCain may be appealing on the issues you may take to heart -  less government, low taxes, etc. -- he has abandoned any pretense of fairness when it comes to our community and should not be rewarded with an endorsement from a group of gay Republicans. He knows full well that words matter -- he is energizing the base, and the base is not the LGBT community.

He could have run a campaign remodeling himself as an advocate of privacy, equal protection under the law -- heck, that was the old Rudy Giuliani you referenced. The bottom line is that McCain had enough gravitas to take that retooling of the party; instead he took the LCRs for a ride when he could have moved the party away from the fundamentalist faux Christian set.  So no -- not all Republicans are 100% wrong on LGBT rights issues, as much as you'd like to portray my view of the GOP that way, but none of the candidates running in 2008 dared to challenge the strangle hold of the religious right. They all pandered. And now at the finish line, McCain's openly contemptuous of LGBTs by supporting the CA amendment. He could have said nothing.

BTW, it goes without saying that the Democrats have done the same to progressives time and again. It's not easy to think of how betrayed the LGBT community felt by the Clinton administration on some of its decisions. That said, in 2008 one cannot ignore that our rights will never move forward under a McCain administration - he's already spelled it out for the LCRs and for us.

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GOOD Points.

Quite a fine pas de deux LCR's have to dance to support McCain.  Oh well, if all you feel is important is OIL Corporat OIL Corporate money. Then you've really got a winner.

I actually appeciate the way JH and Good As You takes the time to disuess attacks on the gay community with educational correction and terms. Since almost ever attitude can have an equal by opposite 'reattitude'...well I like his way too. There are no actual discussions by commenters as here, don't need to be really he 'handles' each piece well himself. 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


Now, let's be fair
Pam only has a disdain for the Log Cabins; she does not loathe you. She just regards you with pitying contempt

Now, as for me, I not only loathe you all, I consider you poseurs, declasse and tiresome.

As for ignorance, in my experience the better educated it is that a Lesbian is, the lower she places the LCR's in her reconing.

I am, it goes without saying, well educated.


I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


Republicans
I've thought long and hard about this. Most of my family is still staunch Republican, and I was raised Republican. I can only say that anyone who is still a Republican after all that's gone on is either willfully blind or evil. There doesn't seem to be a third option. And yes, that includes the members of my family. I love them. Most of them. But the ones who aren't deluded by fantasies they want to make real are, well, evil. Evil-tempered, evil-minded, just evil.

A gay Republican... Oh, what can I say? I've heard the mantra about "change from within", but at some point a person has got to realize that change isn't possible and to continue only demonstrates your deep masochism or self-loathing. Even Andrew Sullivan finally woke up and smelled the coffee. The GOP sold its soul to the Talibaptists and now it's become a mutually parasitic relationship. One can't exist without the other. If they both got sick and died, the world would be a much better place. And then I guess the LCRs would have to invent a party that hates fags and worships money as much as they do. Maybe they could all go join Fred's church.

Cause any fool knows, a dog needs a home; a shelter from pigs on the wing


I loathe you
and Rudy was NEVER sane.

Why bother loathing them...
...when they so obviously loathe themselves? I vote for contemptuous pity.

[ Parent ]
I don't loathe you
I feel sorry for you. It must be hard to hate yourself that much. I imagine it's what being a black Republican must be like--and I feel sorry for them too.

LCR and Gun Control
Please keep in mind that I was not defending LCR; I am just trying to change the tone. For the record, I am a strong and proud Obama supporter (having previously supported Senator Clinton).

Gun control is a uniquely personal issue for me. I was seriously injured by a handgun when some maniac tried to murder me. I was deeply disappointed with the result in Heller v DC and so informed LC.

I agree with Pam that their triumphant reaction to the Supreme Court was misguided - at best.

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com


Funny Repigs in the last 8 years changed my gun stance too
I once supported keeping assault weapons out of the hands of individual citizens...my new stance, after repigs in 2004 amped up the hatred of gays/lesbians in 13 states...is feet planted firmly and spread apart, then, LOCK and LOAD.

Pink Pistols
   http://www.pinkpistols.org/

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Yeah, I'm there too
I had a pistol when I was growing up and gave it away 20+ years ago. Haven't worried about it. Then Katrina, and the government's response to Katrina, made my other half and I rethink things. We had long conversations about it, and we now own a .45 that we keep in the house. I'm also looking for a good shotgun.

I live in an earthquake zone, it isn't a matter of if, but when a disaster strikes. I won't allow my family to become another statistic the way so many in New Orleans did.

Cause any fool knows, a dog needs a home; a shelter from pigs on the wing


[ Parent ]
We saw Katrina up close
Being just outside Baton Rouge we had 8 friends who migrated to our place after the storm and levee breaking.
We also did work in two god-awful FEMA trailor parks, which NEWS channels and other photographers were barred from entering, yeah it was THAT bad. We stood on endless lines with friends who lost everything, people were so angry they wouldn't even say Bush's name...they's seeth through clenched teeth, "him or he"
We have a shotgun in our home, and an ex Navy marksman who knows how to use it...nobody messes with us.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
"...the current battle for the soul of the GOP..."
That's extremely generous to your guest, Pam.  That battle ended (disastrously) quite a while ago now, and what most of us have against LCR is that since then they have been selling out our community and undermining its (already limited) political power.

The battle could become current again, perhaps, but only if Arnold actively engages against Prop. 8 in California and only if we then go on to defeat it.  If that happens the entire anti-gay industry, including the GOP, would be thrown into turmoil.

I'm happy to see that Log Cabin in California is part of the Eq4All coalition.  I hope they're putting significant resources (dollars, sweat, and tears) into the fight.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto


An awesome thing
when you're claiming that someone is attacking you, loathing you, or engaging in "argumentum ad hominem" is to provide evidence, kind of like Pam did in responding to your accusations.

Pam was also very nice in leaving off the full subtitle of your post at BlogCabin.net.

Electricity's for light bulbs!


notice no comments function
BlogCabin.net should allow me to post my response to this diary on its site as a rebuttal to the sadly limp attack.

I guess so majorly sucks to be sh*t on by your candidate, that all they can do is yelp out at the Blend to deflect attention from the terrible choice the LCRs are going to have to make re: McCain.


[ Parent ]
It is difficult to have respect for people who stay in an abusive relationship
I understand the desire to wrest the Republican Party away from the Talibangelicals, but you have to admit: the efforts come awfully close to an abused spouse's desire to fix her marriage. Your party takes an overt, active stance against your very existence, much less your rights, and has for going on three decades. This stance has hardened over the years, not softened; you are targeted and abused far worse now than at any time in the past. Things are getting worse with no sign of getting better, and yet you still insist that if you could just sit down and talk your problems out, the beatings will stop and love will blossom.

I'm sorry, but it just doesn't work that way.

Do I loathe Log Cabin Republicans? No. I pity you, in the same way I pity any victim who keeps returning again and again to an abuser. I will admit that my pity is laced with a bit of contempt, because unlike far too many battered partners, you do have alternatives, but you refuse to consider them. My pity is also mixed with a good deal of understanding, because I've been there myself. I know that the beatings and the name-calling and the death threats are familiar, and better the familiar pain than something that is different and scary.

Despite your opinion of Pam and others here at the Blend, I have no doubt that when the LCR hits bottom in their devotion to the GOP -- and with the increasingly overt and fanatical religiosity in the Republican Party, it is guaranteed that a crash will come and probably sooner than latter -- we will be there to help you put the pieces back together. I just hope that there is still something left of you to repair.  

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même merde.


What's interesting to me here
This David Tucker guy is so incredibly, contemptuously upset that Pam would imply of the LCRs that "We're Republicans because we like low taxes". He describes such a charge as "the same familiar lines", "intellectually lazy", and equivalent to calling someone a "jew for hitler".

But... he doesn't really give us any indication what LCRs do stand for, or explain why we should take him at his emphatic word that LCRs are something more than allowing economic self-interest to overtake personal self-interest. He spends a lot of space indicating how upset it makes him someone would imply such a thing, but doesn't really explain why it's wrong or what it is that is right.

He does extend an offer explain such things, but technically only to Pam and only if she'll travel to DC to have lunch with him. Hm.


It's Scott Tucker
I am DAVID Hart. I just posted the link with a bit of commentary. I swear that I am not married to Scott Tucker (I have my own partner of 28 years).

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com


[ Parent ]
Yikes!
So sorry about that. My comment was in reference to Scott Tucker's post at blogcabin only. I guess I got the names confused... _;

[ Parent ]
boo-f*ckin-hoo for the LCR
You expect some "sympathy" from other queers that you are trying to change the Repig Party...after Alito, after Katrina, after Roberts, after thirteen battle ground states amped up their hatred of us in 2004 to re-elect Cheney.,....oh, f*ck me hard!

I forgot you ALREADY DID.

How about you sniveling tax break-grubbing old hags, shut the HELL up for this CENTURY.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Sure glad that I made my point . . .
about attacking the argument rather than the arguer. ;-)

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com


[ Parent ]
You do not have an argument David.

You have an EXCUSE ..and abuse.  Very perceptive of those above that all of you accept and dote on any crumbs heaped on you from the Party. What a Party, I surely do not see anyone celebrating or enjoying what the Republican Party has done to this county... oh wait I live in California not Texas! I do not make a 6 figure income so my taxes are up not down.

When McCain .... he is a senator from ARIZONA right?  They don't have much oil but they have lots and lots and lots of sunshine right? was aked what he would do about the OIL Crisis he's right spot on with the "Duh I'm an old fuddy duddy I don't know or the  drill more drill more answer. What about SUNSHINE! knucklebrain? It comes up everyday, it could produce 20% of this countries building and manufatcturing energy use within a decade... if it had subsidies as OIL OIL OIL does. 

Now I can see why LCR's might like the drill drill drill  scenario, they are used to getting it from everybody.  But whereas, I like it from my spouse I surely don't want it from anyone else.  You all seem to gleefully accept it. 

Rememer it will be 2027 before we see the 3-4 cent drop in gas prices from totally demolishing ANWR.  It would not be until 2015 we could see another 3 cent drop from raping our coasts.  But your friends make their money from OIL so go right ahead, and let them be your Masters..I hope you have a good contract! 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Let McSame sell offshore drilling in Florida, South Carolina, MS, AL,CA
Ever heard of NOT in my back yard?

Any resort or high priced coastal region will absolutely forbid drilling off THEIR coast. Florida will be the most dangerous place for McSame to talk about the risk of damaging their coasts...the whole state is either coast or protected everglades, or citrus fields.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Huh?
One more time. I am NOT a Republican and I SUPPORT Obama. You are attacking the messenger. Try to read the thread first, please.

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com


[ Parent ]
loathe or disdain...BOTH


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


BTW, Let's Talk About Taxes!
Every time that I hear Senator McCain speak of taxes,
I get angrier. As far as i am concerned, my inflated
grocery, fuel and electric costs are a form of taxation
courtesy of the GOP.

It should be noted that these are disproportionate levies. The wealthy may expend a minuscule percentage of their income on grocery, fuel and electric costs. On the other hand, those same expenses might consume MORE than 100% of the income of someone trying to support a family working at WallMart. Moderate income families are getting deeper and deeper in debt as a result of Bush-onomics and McCain promises more of the same.

No matter who our next President is, things are likely to get worse. Eventually, we are going to have to start servicing the enormous debt that we have accumulated to fund the pointless war in Iraq. I am guessing that Title IV could be at risk (PAM) although they will do it stealthily by manipulating the family contribution numbers.

Needless to say, I am deeply concerned about the future of our nation. Unless you are in the oil or defense industries, we all got screwed.

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com


A queer person voting Republican
is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

They make their money by targeting us. They drum up hate and fury at us in order to turn out the loonies on election day. What will it take for LCRs to see that they are unwelcome in their political party? Will the Repugs have to come up with a platform plank that advocates for the "cleansing" of America by shipping all glbt people to "re-education camps" in Wyoming? Or will they have to spend a year in the camps to finally admit it?

My family of origin does not like that I am queer. I was insulted, abused and generally made unwelcome. I DON'T GO THERE ANY MORE. I haven't got time in my life for anyone who won't treat me with respect, and if that includes my father or the Republican party, then so be it. They are missing out on all that we could offer. They have made it painfully obvious that they do not want us in their membership.

Would a person of African lineage demand inclusion in the Klan? Would a Catholic? Why do they insist on joining a group that loathes and abhors them? I think their energies would be better spent trying to change the economic policies of the Democratic party (which honestly are not so different from the Repugs some days). At least in the democratic caucus they would not have to worry about being lynched on the way to the car after the meeting. The Republicans are working to eradicate us. They cannot be changed from the inside. To give them money is to work against the interests of our community.

Do I loathe the LCRs? I don't think loathe is a strong enough word. Anyone who aids and abets an organization bent on making my life hell is my enemy. I have no use for them, I do not value the things they value, and, like the writer above, I have no respect for someone who willfully stays in, nay, demands inclusion in, a relationship that abusive and self-destructive. Get some therapy, find a 12-step meeting or something, and then maybe we can talk. Until then, I prefer to spend my energy working toward positive goals that will benefit me and my community as opposed to listening to why health care and social security should be privatized.


I took a look at his blog
they are proud to endorse Gordon Smith even though he supports the anti-gay marriage amendment.

Because they care about low taxes.

Why should they be expected to be cut any slack just because they are gay, and therefor "Log Cabin" republicans ?

I would loathe any such Republicans, gay or not - it is just that they stand out as especially selfish and evil because one would expect them to have a little more compassion for their fellow gays than the typical straight Repub.


how bad?
Well, how about a black, gay, trans, woman's-studies teaching, FtM, LCR  ---  with a convicted, sex offender boyfriend  --  who happens to favor "White Power"?

In reality, is that any worse than a regular LCR?

Not really  --  after all, once you've maxed out on self-hatred, anything more is just a pose.

Loathe?  No!  Pity is more like it.

By the way, with all the gay-baiting going on, I suggest we all think about our safety, about self defense.  


Spot On
Well Said Pam.  I don't loathe Gay republicans at all - in fact I dated one for three years many years back.  I do find them irrelevant within the republican party because they are largely ignored and completely taken advantage of.  It's akin to a person who returns to their abusive spouse over and over again thinking "they might change."

Why any gay person who cares at all about securing civil rights for the LGBT community would ever vote for a president that is going to appoint conservative justices to the supreme court FOR LIFE (!!!!!) is beyond me and borders on insane, frankly.

I mean really - I hope you enjoy your small government and fiscal responsibility when you aren't able to visit your dying partner in a hospital or your partner who isn't a legal citizen is shipped off because you can't marry.  


When money is the most important thing in your life...
...those other things don't really matter.

[ Parent ]
And..
There in lies the problem with Gay repulicans.  

[ Parent ]
how about gay republicans being as ignored as gays, by LGBTs...
How about gay republicans being as ignored as gays by LGBTs,as they are ignored as republicans by the GOP?

maybe they'll get the hint....nobody wants your sorry a$$es

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


I can understand some indiviudal gay people actually VOTING Republican
Some people, for whatever reason, feel that Republicans are better at stuff like national defense.  I don't agree with it, but there are people who think that.  And if someone takes the viewpoint that given the external threats facing the country, a stronger military is a must have and DP benefits are a "nice to have" - well, I can see that, but again, don't agree with the choice.

What I can't understand is forming a PAC and issuing endorsements that deny the utter lack of respect for gay people the party has.  And to feign happiness with the crumbs thrown by people like McCain rather than calling him out on the fact that the reason he isn't more supportive is simply that there are more evangelicals than gay people is a little too "Thank you sir may I have another" for my taste.  

OTOH, the recent trend of calling them Repiglicans just makes us look unpleasant.  It certainly doesn't win over people on the fence, and that's what we need to be doing right now.


How about my personal choice, RePuritan?
Kinda catches their Holier than thou essence, a tad less nasty. Although the Puritans were real jerks, when you read history closely...

And their stupid malovelent mispronunciation of the adjectival form of the word Democrat when referring to the party or its members (Democrat Party rather than Democratic party) just shows what rubes the Repuritans have become.


[ Parent ]
The only legitimate reason to act as a gay republican
To get undeniable proof of tapes and photos of the Repig closet cases, (ie, Condi, Patrick McHenry, Mitch McConnell, Karl Rove, Lindsey Graham, Charlie Crist, Ken Mehlman, Mark Foley, Dennis Hastert, Missouri's governor and Larry Craig.) Then expose them as HYPOCRITES.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Do LCR members even want marriage?
Marriage implies obligation that may turn unpleasant. I imagine there are some gays who consider the lack of marriage to mean that they don't have to go to the trouble of getting a prenuptial agreement.

should I add a new endorsement - from the LCRs?
Who votes for this addition to the endorsement sidebar with The Peter, James Hartline and Mike Hein/Mike Heath?

John McCain-loving Scott Tucker, communications director of the Log Cabin Republicans, thinks the Blend service up Grade A rancid fare:

FDA Recall -- "Pam's House Blend": 'Always Steamin' Because It's Made from Toxic, Old Crap, (BlogCabin, 6/30/2008)



Perfect!
I say go for it.

[ Parent ]
of course i have to fix the typo
serves up Grade A rancid fare.

[ Parent ]
Fix the typo...

...and add the endorcement endorsement. :P

-----
~~Autumn~~

As if there were safety in stupidity alone.
--Henry David Thoreau


[ Parent ]
A LCR
would NEVER marry without a pre-nup. Money trumps love.

...and under MCCain they surely never will.
This from Randy Thomasson of CCF (as reported and evaluated, in his own inimitable style, by JH today.)
"Despite his claims that he believes marriage is only for a man and a woman, Barack Obama is promising to destroy marriage protection in our nation and to oppose protecting marriage licenses for a man and a woman in California," said CCF President Randy Thomasson, a registered independent. "Obama, who appears quite comfortable saying one thing and doing another, will lose votes in California due to his pandering to sexual extremists in San Francisco. The May 21 Los Angeles Times Poll found that 54 percent of voters support Proposition 8, the California Marriage Amendment, and only 35 percent oppose it. Most Californians know deep in their hearts that the homosexual 'marriages' parading in the streets are not real marriages."

"Americans are learning there are significant differences between John McCain and Barack Obama on home defense and marriage defense," said Thomasson. "McCain supports and Obama opposes the constitutional right of law-abiding citizens to own a gun to defend their home. McCain supports and Obama opposes preserving marriage licenses for a man and a woman in California. In recent days, their positions for or against the mainstream values of American voters have become much more clear."

So sorry David, I guess its 28 years and counting and counting.

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


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Patriotic Americans Vote For MCCAIN
It's really sad that the best candidate the Democrats can  put forth and nominate for President is the most least experienced candidate in the history of our country.  

Those of you who are voting for Obama are selfish, because you are only voting for Obama because you think he's going to let us marry, end DADT, improve the enconomy, end the war immediately, and finally end gay discrimation. The Democraps have been in control of congress for two years and haven't delivered shit. The real truth is Obama doesn't believe that gays and lesbians are equal enough to marry.  He considers you a second class citizen. Shame Shame on all of you.

Sen. McCain is an American hero. Obama is just a Socialist wimpy ass racist crybaby Democrat. Obama and his beast of a wife can both kiss my gay white Republican cracker ass.

Vote for McCain an American Hero not a "0"bama  


"proudGayAmerican" like I mentioned before
LGBTs IGNORE gay repigs as gays, just as the GOP ignores them as republicans.

You demonstrated you are racist and sexist, and as interesting to me a G*D DAMN Roy Cohen with flesh eating crabs.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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a = as


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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Proud gay Cracker
after 8 years of Cheney

SHUT da F*CK UP!

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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Rollin' on the floor laughin' my ass off
Sen. McCain is an American hero. Obama is just a Socialist wimpy ass racist crybaby Democrat. Obama and his beast of a wife can both kiss my gay white Republican cracker ass.

Ahem, in all your excitement you forgot to call Obama a faggot!  :LOL

I love the LCRs, they're so fuckin' ludicrous.  

You may not be gay, but you may be next.


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"the most least experienced"?
Apparently there is more than one reason why the Rs want English to be the official language of the US. That way they can take the free remedial courses in night school.

Methinks this post is a prime (albeit pathetic) example of "ratfuckery" as practiced by Republican dirty tricksters for the last four decades. There is a nice piece on the history and methodology here: http://ourfuture.org/blog-entr...  


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Proud?
Proud to support a man who sucked up to the same folks who push-polled that he fathered a black baby out of wedlock?

Proud to support a man who called his current wife a cunt?

Proud to support a man who cheated on his previous wife in order to marry someone younger who could bankroll his career?  

And you dare to call Michelle Obama a "beast"?

Proud to support a man who is actively supporting an amendment to assure that you will never have the asme rights as he has?

If you are gay and proud to vote for McCain, then you clearly have some self-hated that you may want to work on some day.  Good luck with that.


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mccain is just mcsame
McCain is not a maverick or a centrist, he's McSame. McSame is an accurate description of McCain. Voters are looking for change and we will not find it with McCain.

We saw it in 2004 where Bush ended up endorsing the FMA and stating we do not really want the LGBT vote. I just do not want to be bamboozled again in 2008. I would like to see a Reagan 1984 result for Obama so McCain and other Republican leaders would realize the same old story will not pay for the party.

25% of the LGBT population is Republican, yes we can still be Republicans, but in 2008 we need to leave our ballots blank, vote third party or even Obama. It will take a massive loss for McCain to realize that the party needs change.

McCain does not really want our votes, and if Log Cabin wants to be taken seriously in the LGBT community a no-endorsement would be recommended.

I did not want to be a single issue voter in 2004 where I voted for Bush because I thought national security would be better under his control. However a Bush administration is the hemorrhoid we need to remove where people like Scott Bloch, and electing Obama would be integral.

However, IF the Democrats do not deliver with Obama as president. I WILL vote Republican blindly until they do in 2010 and beyond.  


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This is your HERO???
  McSame, the proud owner of the double talk express

 If you say so.  And you are a Proud Gay American who must have his head up his own A$$ or a fellow Republican's A$$.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


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Fighting for Social Justice, not the lack their of it
Obama had years of fighting for social justice in Chicago before he was ever a politician. I put more value in this then years in Washington. A real hero in my mind is not only those who fight with guns for questionable wars.  A real hero is also a person who is willing to fight for the community they live in, and sacrifice a potential six figure salary doing so.

McCain had his service with a gun.
Obama put his service to this country in a different way, that is just as relevant, if not more so.  He fought for the people with a lack of a voice and gave them one.  American citizens.  Without shedding a drop of blood.

It is like comparing Martin Luther King to Bob Dole.  An American Saint versus another politician with a war record.

I would not say Obama has a lack of experience. He has plenty of experience, as a real reformer, not some cardboard cut out one. He was the key politician for political reform and death penalty reform in Illinois.   It is just not what is seen as experience from a particular Washington perspective.  King had a lack of experience too...but he is the closest thing to a Saint this country has.

Oh if I remember right...Lincoln had just about as much experience as Obama too.  Experience is overrated.  Most GREAT Americans lacked experience.  Rosa Parks, King, Lincoln.  People who fought for freedom WITHIN this country, instead of reinforcing the mechanisms of oppression (like McCain has throughout his political career).  

Obama is already a transformative as Lincoln or King, he changed American history.    McCain is just another typical politician with a war record.  War hero's with poor policy positions and records of oppression are dime a dozen, transformative figures...are much more extraordinary.  Obama already changed politics in the US.  He shattered the color barrier, and for the first time let us see a more perfect union as something possible.



ProudGayAmerican
You're a waste of air.

Good post.
David: You say "it seems unfair to attack a Republican who happens to be gay for being, well, a gay Republican." I'm not sure I understand why. Do you think they can't help being Republican?

Pam: I admire your patience, and I note that you were gracious enough not to point out that Tucker took care to insult you more than once while complaining that you insulted the LCR. I don't think I'd have been so gracious.  


Tucker's unfortunate LCR post
Apparently wrote his post in anguish resulting from being sh*t on by McCain, which of course, isn't the fault of me or any gay Dem.

This is a smokescreen to divert attention from the piss-poor and embarrassing position the LCRs are in, courtesy of their presumed party nominee who met with them privately on one day, then publicly crapped on the organization right after the news leaked out about said meeting by coddling the right on the marriage amendment.  

Obviously it's easier to inaccurately lash out at me or the Blend as opposed to making a case as to why my actual positions on the LCRs and McCain are wrong.

Remember, I'm open to being "educated" on how my view of McCain on LGBT issues is incorrect -- and why my vote should be cast for him in Nov. However, I've not received any of the LCR-promised facts to support that he'd give us a fair shake,when it comes to our rights or SCOTUS. In fact, he's increasingly shown the opposite view in every public opportunity where he could have broken with the fringe right on these issues. He's willing to be a tool of the far right, and all signals are the LCR plans to be the doormat enabler and is seriously considering endorsing the Arizona senator.  


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Studies by Paul Cameron
Have shown that people do not choose to live the Republican lifestyle, they are born Republican.

There are subtle changes in the neo-cortex in the brains of Republicans that may be genetically determined.

Medicine has resisted Cameron's theory that Republicans represent a normal variant of human behaviour, and have declined to remove "Republican" or the subgroup "LCR with psychosis" from the DSM.

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


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"Fairness" was the wrong construction on my part
The answer to your question, though, is that I am predisposed (hard wired in fact) to making valid arguments with specificity. For example, as I previously posted, "lower taxes" is a mirage. I simply prefer to confine a meaningful debate to the issues. In addition to GLBT rights, they include the bumper stickers of "small government" and "national security." I am very concerned about the integrity of the constitution and civil liberties. Frankly, "I am as mad as hell" but that's not going to accomplish anything.

For years, we have seen both the GOP and the religious right make personal attacks, appeal to both ignorance and their unchallengeable interpretation of God's will, employ selective observation and intentionally miscorrelate cause and effect.

We are better than that. You might want to take a look at:
http://www.tips-q.com/content/... (our site is still in preview and a bit slow).

"Neither Lifestyle nor Agenda"

http://tips-q.com


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I fully support Pam engaging the LCR on the issues.
That is her choice.  I think she does well in so doing.  Far better than the LCR characterization of her.

But the problem with the post is the a-priori assumption that a "discussion" with the LCR is desirable or would yield anything useful with respect to all or most gay liberals and Democrats.  That's a mighty big set of cojones on the part of the LCR -- to assume that all or many of us want to talk with them.

The Republican Party is all about war of all kinds -- real war, and political war.  They don't want bipartisanship or true compromise with Democrats with the recognition that we're here and not going away.  They want to beat us and to the greatest extent make sure that liberals have as little political power and influence as possible.

That's fair -- but then, the Republican Party, by its own image of itself, is the enemy.

So, with this in mind, the only time I would want to discuss anything with an LCR member is if they're considering abandoning the Republican Party for good.

Otherwise I think it's completely fair to simply mop the floor with 'em, politically speaking.

You know they'd do (and try to do continuously) the same ;)


firefly
"That's a mighty big set of cojones on the part of the LCR -- to assume that all or many of us want to talk with them."

I think some of these vaccuous LCRs haven't an INKLING exactly how motherf*ckingly ANGRY 80% of Americans are at the Repig Party...after 8 years of Cheney.

Repigs are very lucky this is happening after Homeland security...or there would be cities burning all over this country.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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image of a battering ram comes to mind
One of those big heavy battering rams the cops knock down a door with. Think of 80% of Americans swinging this ram back in a high arc for eight years, and November 2nd we unleash all that force. It'll knock the G*D DAMN house off it's foundation, and the G*D DAMN senate off it's foundation too.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


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A question for Scott Tucker
Over the years, we've received much smarter insults than the ones you use when you're too intellectually lazy to argue on the merits of the issue at hand.  I'd be happy to share them with you so your audience doesn't have to suffer through the "tax cut" bit again.

Please share them, as now would be a good time.

The issues we see are nondiscrimination legislation, hate crimes legislation, and marriage equality, to name a few. What would you consider issues? ...as the Republicans do not see these as important.

I have been on your website, and I have to say I am glad to see you try to converse with people one on one. It is always helpful to our cause to be able to make a human connection in that way. But I feel you could do more than pander to the people. Do you not feel yourself worthy of equality? Do you have no passion? Aren't you angry? I am. Why aren't you?

The LGBT community needs to be recognized in terms of equality, and no amount of 'pizza pandering' will achieve this. The GOP is unified in their stance. They do not support the LGBT community. And you call yourself a member? How can you vote away your equality? Our equality?

Everytime you vote, every time you speak, every time you write or every meeting you attend you represent me. You represent all of us, millions of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender citizens of this country.

I personally, do not appreciate your spinelessness. I would never present myself, or my community, like I begged to be a part of a group who would not accept me. I would stand tall. I would speak out, loudly, proudly, and if I have to, I'd make a scene. You are living on your knees, where we live on our feet. As much as I respect your attempt, I cannot condone your decision to be a doormat to society. I will not give up my integrity to be accepted. If acceptance is even what you think you might achieve.

One question, the merits of the issues involved, how does it feel to sell yourself out? Or maybe you have achieved something we just don't know about? Please share your successes....please share anything you have achieved...because to us, you have achieved nothing.  


Any LCRs I know are ex-LCRs,
  It wasn't hard to convince them to switch for one simple reason.  There was nothing there on the Republican side to make them want to stay.

 As long as there are still voices (Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel) to name a few, the Democratic Party gives me a reason to stay,  But with the crap that has been happening in the last few months, Me thinks they are trying to run me out as well.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


Trying to change the Repbulican party from within is like
joining the Army to end war...

joining the KKK to help end racism...

going to work at Exxon to help end global warming...

or giving bj's in an airport bathroom to encourage "family values"...


Ok, I pop onto here for a second to peek from Gibraltar....
and want to make a few points before I head off to the beach...

David, great article to select and good points.

Yes, attack the argument, but I have a visceral reaction to those who, insulated by priviledge, undercut the mass of the LGBT community that lacks it.

A few years ago, in New York City, I sat having coffee with another Lesbian friend, a wealthy individual, and she and I were discussing the fact that the most effective thing buffering us from blatant discrimination and harrassment was our wealth or education/positions; that the larger part of the LGBT community did not have that kind of insularity born out of that kind of priviledge. I came up the hard way, black sheep of a family of priviledge and left to my own devices to make my way, which I did.

I was lucky.
And I never forgot that journey.

The LCR's have the kind of priviledge that I spoke of. Being in the Harvard or wherever in the Ivy League Gay Straight alliance is not the same as being in the one at WVU or other state schools in unfriendly areas.

In 2004, having worked hard to register gays and Lesbians for the election, election eve was a huge disappointment while in the same room that I was sorrowing in some LCR's were gloating that "their guy won" and that they had no problems with discrimination and did not care about marriage.

The working class Lesbians, discriminated against and scraping to get by, let them escape alive.

So yes, I am afraid that I not only attack their arguments but attck them, since their positions are born out of an elitist, neo-mattachinistic, priviledged life so very removed from the majority of LGBT's as to act as a narcotic on their perceptions of a broader world.

Their philosophy might be summed up as "I got mine, too bad about you"

I've said my piece now. I am going to be selfish and head off to the beach...

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid


LCRs in a real pickle
Check out my latest post: Bush 'Austin 12' divided about supporting McCain. The LCRs are really getting backed into a corner.

Anyway I can get this to Dave Hart? LEARNING TO THINK REPUBLICAN.

This is a LTE in our local paper. LOVE IT ! Sending it to everyone who wants to beat the Republicans in the FALL, that I have emails of. Please forward to anyone you can think of too.

 

Letter: Learning to think Republican

Article Launched: 07/02/2008 12:00:00 AM PDT

I've been feeling pretty stressed when I read some of the newspaper headlines, so I went to some of my Republican friends and asked for their help. I'm feeling so much better now and wanted to pass this along to any other readers who may be struggling in the same way.
Ice caps melting? Biggest floods in history in the Midwest? Worst fires in history in California? No problem. Just close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and repeat: "Climate change is all a liberal hoax. It's not happening."
Biggest federal deficit in history? Value of the dollar at an all-time low? State budget in collapse? Schools cutting programs left and right? Not enough resources to fight those fires? No problem. Same maneuver, but this time repeat: "No new taxes. No New taxes."
Most expensive war in history, all financed with debt and based on lies? U.S. prestige at an all time low? U.S. known as the land of torture instead of the land of liberty? President illegally intercepting millions of Americans' phone calls? New reports that most of the people rotting in Guantanamo were never guilty of anything? No problem! Just do the same thing, but this time repeat: "War on Terror. War on Terror."
There. Isn't that easy? Don't you feel better now? Me neither.

And we need to add a paragraph for LGBT issues too. Vounteer anyone. I'm too busy sending this out.

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


Easy
Ice caps melting? Biggest floods in history in the Midwest? Worst fires in history in California? No problem. Just close your eyes, put your fingers in your ears and repeat: "Climate change is all a liberal hoax. It's not happening."
Biggest federal deficit in history? Value of the dollar at an all-time low? State budget in collapse? Schools cutting programs left and right? Not enough resources to fight those fires? No problem. Same maneuver, but this time repeat: "No new taxes. No New taxes."
Most expensive war in history, all financed with debt and based on lies? U.S. prestige at an all time low? U.S. known as the land of torture instead of the land of liberty? President illegally intercepting millions of Americans' phone calls? New reports that most of the people rotting in Guantanamo were never guilty of anything? No problem! Just do the same thing, but this time repeat: "War on Terror. War on Terror."

Can't afford to fill up your car? Can't afford groceries? Job outsourced to India? Fed up after reading that article about your ex-CEO's multi-million dollar "golden parachute"? No problem! Just do the same thing, but this time repeat: "Preserving one-man-one-woman marriage is our highest priority."

It just writes itself.

Cause any fool knows, a dog needs a home; a shelter from pigs on the wing


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