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Bye, Jesse, you left quite a legacy

by: Pam Spaulding

Fri Jul 04, 2008 at 13:00:00 PM EDT


Jesse Helms has died. As a native and current resident of North Carolina, even today many people I run into outside of this state who know little about it -- recognize the name Jesse Helms. He leaves a long, dark trail of professional racial bigotry (he opposed the MLK national holiday, and civil rights legislation) and homophobia (that list is so long, you don't know where to begin).
Former U.S. Sen. Jesse A. Helms, the son of a Monroe police chief who rose to national prominence as one of the leading lions of the American right, died early this morning. He was 86.

During a political career that began with his election to the Raleigh City Council in the late 1950s and included 30 years in the U.S. Senate, Jesse Alexander Helms endeared himself to conservatives throughout the country.

Helms became known as "Senator No" for his constant battles against everything from increased government spending to civil rights legislation to communism to the National Endowment for the Arts.

I viewed the late Senator many a time when he was a  commentator on WRAL. For me, as a young child of color, his blunt, unforgiving, unacceptable views were distressing and surreal to watch.

Here are some quaint quotes from the former U.S. Senator, collected by the Raleigh N&O, which also has a timeline of his career:

"Unless our Negro citizens submit more easily than we predict they will, North Carolina does not have the simple choice between segregated schools and integrated schools. Our only choice is between integrated public schools and free-choice private schools. ... The decision will have been made by a very small minority of people who are hell-bent on forced integration.""

"To rob the Negro of his reputation of thinking through a problem in his own fashion is about the same as trying to pretend that he doesn't have a natural instinct for rhythm and for singing and dancing."
- Helms responding in 1956 to criticism that a fictional black character in his newspaper column was offensive.

"I shall always remember the shady streets, the quiet Sundays, the cotton wagons, the Fourth of July parades, the New Year's Eve firecrackers. I shall never forget the stream of school kids marching uptown to place flowers on the Courthouse Square monument on Confederate Memorial Day."
- Helms writing in 1956 on life in his hometown of Monroe, N.C.

Additional nuggets:

His infamous "Hands" ad, which he ran during his re-election bid in 1990 against Charlotte mayor Harvey Gantt, (who is black); Gantt led in the polls until this aired:


Jesse Helms' infamous thirty second commercial showing a pair of white hands crumpling a job rejection letter as a narrator says: "You needed that job, and you were the best qualified, but they had to give it to a minority, because of a racial quota. Is that really fair? Harvey Gantt says it is. Gantt supports Ted Kennedy's racial quota law that makes the color of your skin more important than your qualifications. Your vote on this issue next Tuesday. For racial quotas, Harvey Gantt. Against racial quotas, Jesse Helms." More classics below the fold.

Pam Spaulding :: Bye, Jesse, you left quite a legacy
"The New York Times and Washington Post are both infested with homosexuals themselves. Just about every person down there is a homosexual or lesbian."
-- 1995

"The University of Negroes and Communists"
-- Reference to the University of North Carolina devised by Mr. Helms when he worked for Willis Smith's 1950 U.S. Senate campaign.

"Your tax dollars are being used to pay for grade-school classes that teach our children that CANNIBALISM, WIFE-SWAPPING and MURDER of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior."
-- Fund raising mailer, 1996

"All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."
-- After Mexicans protested his visit in 1986

"Homosexuals are weak, morally sick wretches."
-- 1995 radio broadcast

"She's a damn lesbian. I am not going to put a lesbian in a position like that. If you want to call me a bigot, fine."
-- Explaining why he was opposing the appointment of a woman for a cabinet post.

"They should ask their parents if it would be all right for their son or daughter to marry a Negro."
-- In response to Duke University students holding a vigil after Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated, 1968

This bill attempts to make sure that President Clinton is not allowed to do by Executive Order what Congress has declined to enact in the past two congressional sessions namely, to treat homosexuals as a special class protected under various titles of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
-- introducing an anti-gay bill in January, 1999, quoted from Rhonda Smith, "Jesse Helms Introduces Anti-Gay Bill, " The Washington Blade, February 26, 1999

***

I will take this opportunity, as I've simply let the Helms record speak for itself, to say a positive comment about the late Senator - he and his office excelled at constituent services, with prompt, specific responses to every query regardless if whether you had his support on a particular issue. He showed up frequently to meet with and take care of his constituents, and he was rewarded by winning re-election time and again. Those acts  do matter; sadly, that personal touch and responsiveness enabled him to continue fomenting bigotry in the name of the state of North Carolina that did not -- and certainly does not now -- reflect the beliefs of most residents of this state.

My condolences go out to the Helms family for their loss.

It should be noted that he campaigned openly for his granddaughter Jennifer Knox, who is now District Court Judge at State of North Carolina (in Wake County). Knox's sexual orientation came to light during that campaign.

In 1993, when then-President Bill Clinton sought confirmation for an openly homosexual assistant secretary at the Department of Housing and Urban Development, Helms registered his disgust.

"I'm not going to put a lesbian in a position like that," he said in a newspaper interview at the time. "If you want to call me a bigot, fine." Helms' granddaughter, Jennifer Knox, is a lesbian and currently elected to public office, a judge in North Carolina -- elected as a Republican.

He did not, however, apologize for any of his anti-gay positions. His one small acknowledgment (late, after how many perished of AIDS) came in the publication of his memoirs, "Here's Where I Stand":
It had been my feeling that AIDS was a disease largely spread by reckless and voluntary sexual and drug-abusing behavior, and that it would probably be confined to those in high risk populations. I was wrong."
***

UPDATE (6:30 PM): I've been through a rollercoaster of emotions about Helms's death; the Helms who brought out celebratory emotion among some LGBTs and progressives today (who couldn't see that coming, given the record) built his career on fomenting prejudice and bigotry - but I just keep coming back to thoughts about what does it all mean in terms of today's political landscape? I thought about how blogging about it in some sort of a celebratory manner would have done little to make anyone think deeply about how his legacy would be analyzed by the MSM and the conservative movement.

What does conservatism mean today, as people look back at Helms? Forcing conservatives to publicly own the whole of Helms's record would be the best way to expose that, even today, a shocking number of those occupying the conservative elements of the GOP would not find much fault with what Helms stood for.

I would hope more progressives pressure the media and the Democrats at the national level -- particularly those who will go on the Sunday talk shows with conservatives -- to frame any discussion of Helms from the perspective of cultural history, civil rights and where both parties have evolved on his issues -- I think it will lay bare to the public which party is ready to move forward, not romanticize and thus reinforce bigotry of the past.

I am of course, well aware of the symbolic nature of his passing as "turning the page" in a painful book of our history. I'm not sure why I'm not feeling very celebratory, given the GOP I still see out there today. Not too many lessons learned.

I am also well aware of how Jesse Helms's reputation was used to denigrate all of the residents of North Carolina as backward, ignorant, racist and homophobic. Regional bigotry was allowed to flower against my state because of Helms -- and Blue State Dems who basically said "F*ck the South", as if there weren't deep blue pockets of voters working for change. Jesse's NC isn't the one I live in today. You wouldn't know that based on what many people who don't live here still think about the state and the region.

Anyway, it's obviously more complex than simply pissing on the grave of a hateful, dangerous and powerful politician who passed on.

UPDATE 2: Read my followup post, Conservatism in the wake of Jesse Helms.

Related:
*  Jesse Helms memoirs: race matters

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Helms is DEAD
Helms is Dead

"if you don't have anything good to say about the deceased, don't say anything at all"

Helms is dead...GOOD!

paraphrased from Bette Davis

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


You watch
the GOP go on and on about the timing of his death, as both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson also died on July 4th. Same year, too- 1826- the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence.

I predict alot of jingoistic praising the next week... bleah.

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It has already started.
Storm's link for one, the Yahoo story is another:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200...
A few gems from this:

"It's just incredible that he would die on July 4, the same day of the Declaration of Independence and the same day that Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died, and he certainly is a patriot in the mold of those great men," said former North Carolina GOP Rep. Bill Cobey, the chairman of The Jesse Helms Center at Wingate University.

Putting the "wing" in Wingate apparently.

"America lost a great public servant and true patriot today," White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said.

Bush probably added "He did a heckava job."

Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said few senators could match Helms' reputation.
"Today we lost a Senator whose stature in Congress had few equals. Senator Jesse Helms was a leading voice and courageous champion for the many causes he believed in," McConnell said in a statement.

Does it sound like he's trying to say something nice about him but just couldn't find anything not controversial so he came up with this?  This guy is a leading gooper, I suspect that it could be taken either as a good thing or a bad thing.  

My America includes LGBT families.


[ Parent ]
I can think of a few, Mitch....
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said few senators could match Helms' reputation.

John Calhoun, Jefferson Davis, James Eastland, Strom Thurmond. The Senate has had a lot of vile racists that could match Helm's reputation.


[ Parent ]
Or...
Bush probably added "He done a heckava job."

[ Parent ]
Bye Jesse
As I explained to a relative, he has the blood of HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS on his hands because of his bigoted stance on AIDS (funding for medicine, basic research, etc). Since he was sooooo fixated on "homosexuals," (and African Americans, and "immoral" white women), he'd rather that AMERICANS DIE that get treatment, get care, get tested, or get critical information. He's killed far more Americans than Bin Laden....

Yes, indeed, with bigot' Helms' passing, today is TRULY Independence Day, for MOST Americans.


And Don't Forget...
...the blood of countless thousands of Central Americans and South Americans and Africans who died at the hands of death squads and soldiers whose weapons and training you and I paid for.

Mr. Helms never met a right-wing dictator he didn't love. He may have been opposed to foreign aid — after all, who would want to spend money feeding lazy brown-skinned people? — but he never met a right-wing dictator he didn't want to lavish money on.


[ Parent ]
Yep
The White House is calling Helms a "true patriot".  Just like Pinochet (toward whom Helms acted as a patron, supporter, and protector) was a "true patriot" of Chile.

Pinochet was able to force the authoritarian vision on the Chilean people that Helms always dreamed of forcing on America.  (A significant portion of the GOP still believes in that vision.)

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto


[ Parent ]
A true patriot
[Patriotism] ...is a word which always commemorates a robbery. There isn't a foot of land in the world which doesn't represent the ousting and re-ousting of a longline of successive "owners" who each in turn, as "patriots" with proud swelling hearts defended it against the next gang of "robbers" who came to steal it and did--and became swelling-hearted patriots in their turn.
- Mark Twain's Notebook

Yes, in this sense he was a true patriot.


[ Parent ]
Why?
Why, though, didn't Mr. Helms have enough altruism in him to die many years ago, when it would have done mankind some good?

condom ACT UP stretched over Helm's house
seems like only yesterday

   http://www.markallencam.com/He...

heaven must be having a cicuit party tonight, with all the angels we lost before Helm's CROAKED.

dan, mark, paul, both davids, steffen, roger, allen....REJOICE!

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


circuit...typo


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


He didn't die years ago
because God didn't want him polluting the "afterlife". Poor God.

Jesse.....
...I wont cut fresh flowers for your funeral.

And Jesse...
I hope they bury you wearing those Klan sheets, I do.

[ Parent ]
I have some
rotting flowers left over after I trimmed the roses. I placed them in the compost pile.....about a week ago......

So I have something to place on his grave.

(BTW, where do they send people that both heaven and hell don't want?)

nothing new at this time.....


[ Parent ]
Best comment so far from
calipygian over at the Big Orange:
Jesse Helms is dead.

There will be celebrations and fireworks today.

These statements may or may not be related.



Remember what FDR said, "I agree with you, I want to do it, now make me do it." Have you written/called a congress-critter today? 8.25, 6.21

YES! ... and by G** we've got a NEW TRAIN goin.

Helms once said his job was to derail the freight train of liberalism 

Weill I would just like to say we've got a new train a goin'.

But this time it is a PASSENGER TRAIN and it's Engineer is OBAMA!

It's gonna roll right out of Sprinfield, Illinois, just like that other one did.

And it's gonna roll, roll, roll all over this land. from sea to shining sea. 

HAPPY FOURTH EVERYONE! We have a lot to Declare today. 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
...I know.

Springfield.. Heck i lived there. My daughter was born there. Her godfather was up from Tupelo, MISS. He had never crossed the Mason-Dixon line before, but did it for her... and I took him to LINCOLN's house!  What a trooper!

He did do this. He commissioned an artist friend of his to paint a picture for my daughters birth present. It is of two doves landing on a blooming dogwood branch, titled 'Spring Flight for L***'.. Yes, I'm cryng now looking at it. 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Correspondence Between Jesse and a Mother who Lost her son to AIDS
On June 5, 1995, a Raleigh grandmother by the name of Patsy Clarke wrote United States Senator Jesse Helms a poignant letter describing the death of her son of AIDS. The intent of her letter was to clarify with the senator various misconceptions that Clarke believed he had on homosexuality and AIDS. She wrote: "Harry (her deceased husband and a political friend of Helms') and I had a son, Mark...he was gay. On March 9, 1994, exactly seven years to the day that his father died, Mark followed him - a victim of AIDS...I'd like to ask your support for AIDS research; it is not to accept a lifestyle which is abhorrent to you; it is rather to ask you not to pass judgment on other human beings as 'deserving what they get.' No one deserves that. AIDS is not a disgrace, it is a TRAGEDY."

Two weeks later, Clarke received a response from Helms. He wrote: "As for homosexuality, the Bible judges it, I do not...I understand the militant homosexuals and they understand me...As for Mark, I wish he had not played Russian roulette with his sexual activity."

Family values at its finest.  

"I like your Christ, but do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." ~Gandhi


I've tried real hard to not make any bad comments about Helm's death...
but after reading this, I'd be very glad to pass a turd on his grave!

[ Parent ]
He was indeed mean-spirited.
And that is putting it lightly. I wrote my senior thesis in college on Helms. I had just come out and in a way, it was therapy for me, as I got to confront every single demon of my past. I grew up about 30 minutes from his hometown, and he was somewhat a folk hero in my own hometown. Granted, he never did anything for the poor white people who voted for him a day in his life. But every six years, he would come from behind with his dirty tricks.

I truly believe that Jesse Helms is the soul of the Republican Party. And I mean that as no compliment. The thing is, we hear these right-wingers talking about "family values," "activist judges," and "special rights for gays," and "protecting homosexuals." Those terms are just snake oil. Jesse just out and said what they all were thinking.

He is a terrible legacy on this state. North Carolina has so much to be proud of - from the coast to the mountains, we are indeed a truly beautiful state. I myself wondered what Jesse would have said had he known that Barack Obama carried this state by 14 points in the recent Democratic primary. We have beautiful liberal Asheville, Chapel Hill (Jesse once referred to it as the People's Republic of Chapel Hill), the emerging Metrolina of Charloote, RTP, the list goes on. Why we sent this spawn of evil to the United States Senate for many years will be our own cross to bear.  

"I like your Christ, but do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." ~Gandhi


[ Parent ]
What an utter and complete bastard he was.
If I had been that mother, I would have demanded his immediate resignation from office (followed by his immediate public flogging, but that's just me).

GAH!  


[ Parent ]
Actually...
she and another mother, Eloise Vaughn (who also lost her son to AIDS), founded a political action group known as MAJIC (Mothers Against Jesse in Congress). The group opposed him in his 1996 re-election for Senate. By the time Election Day rolled around, Jesse and his cronies had designated them the third biggest threat to his re-election (and that is a compliment).  

"I like your Christ, but do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." ~Gandhi


[ Parent ]
Bring it on, FoxNews!!
Let the lovefest begin...

No matter his positions, colleagues said he was always a gentleman.

"America has lost a great public servant and true patriot today," a White House spokesman said, after learning of Helms' death.

"Today we lost a senator whose stature in Congress had few equals," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a statement. "Senator Jesse Helms was a leading voice and courageous champion for the many causes he believed in."

"He's just a good, honest, decent man," former Kansas Sen. Bob Dole told FOX News.

Here's the rest:  http://www.foxnews.com/story/0...

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"Gentleman"? Pfft! They must have meant assh*le
A story from back when Carol Moseley-Braun was in the Senate serving with Helms:

Moseley-Braun tells a story of Helms later getting on a Senate elevator and singing Dixie, vowing to keep it up ''until she cries.'' Moseley-Braun said she replied: ''Sen. Helms, your singing would make me cry if you sang Rock of Ages.'' It was a clever response to a Senate anachronism whose ideas belong alongside those of the Flat Earth Society. (Source)

That and the exchange of letters with Patsy Clarke reveal how truly reprehensible an individual that worthless POS was. May he rot in agony.


[ Parent ]
Gratuitously offensive, bigoted ass
Another famously ugly incident: he sang 'Dixie' to Senator Carol Moseley-Braun in an elevator in one of the Senate office buildings, specifically, he said, to taunt her, to "make her cry".

The spiritual ancestor of Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Savage, and all the other angry white blowhards.  Good riddance, 40 years too late.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto


GO GUYS. This is great.
I'm gonna save this WHOLE thread..

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


EVERY reich wing site is also saving Our comments
and I couldn't give a flying f*ck if they do

JOY...unspeakable joy
since you did not give it
you can not take it away

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
Time to go to Youtube and revisit Bill Hicks' Helms schtick
"...and after he's dead, they'll find the dried skins of hundreds of children hangin' in his attic and his wife will say 'I always wondered about Jesse's collection of lil' shoes...'"

From Joe S over on Americablog
a rather scathing post!

http://www.americablog.com/200...

But that's not to say that I don't agree with every bit of it...

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AIDS fundraiser
it involves a twenty dollar turnstyle for the millions of folks wanting to step up and P*SS on his headstone.

hey hey hey....no pushing, or shoving...everyone will get their turn

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


lol
all I can say......I nearly choked laughing so hard

nothing new at this time.....

[ Parent ]
To me, all Helms' death signifies is a very good reminder that
we are all fighting (mostly) the same people.  That is, all of us who are in a position to be discriminated against and marginalized.

Any chance
of Pat Robertson giving us a "two for" today??? Or hell, a trifecta with Karl Rove, choking on his own bile?  

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Louise i like your idea, but think BIGGER
At the news of Jesse Helm's death Dick Cheney was Heart BROKEN.
Barbara Bush in uncontrolable sobbing, drown in her tears she never shed for Katrina.
Fred Phelps while printing his protest sign for Helm's funeral, died of a nasty paper cut.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Jesse heard Charlie Crist was marrying a woman
and died LAUGHING

A second AIDS fundraiser came to mind.
A Jesse Helms pinata filled with condoms and dental dams.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Oh I get it.
That was just a joke...and here I was looking all over the news outlets for the report on Charle Crist marrying a woman!   No wonder I couldn't find it.  OOOOH Should we start a rumor thread?

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
getting to the heart of what Helms's death means
Getting a cheap thrill from dancing on his grave for me isn't exactly what I personally need out of this event, though I understand why the sentiment is out there.

It would be nice to see a real analysis of the senator's statements and record. A useful exercise would be to confront the conservatives talking heads who are currently lionizing him.  If the senator was a great elected official, what can they point to as a justification for his long history of anti-minority and anti-gay views through the lens of modern politics? Is that something to be lauded for?

Helms's death provides an opportunity, if the MSM chose to do so, to show how far this country (and of course NC) has come since his reign of legislative terror when it comes to race relations and gay rights.

Do today's conservatives disagree with Helms's views today? If so, what has changed culturally to put those views in the dustbin of history? If they do still cleave to those views, they should be prepared to own those views and defend them if asked for a statement about how great Helms was.

We've discussed all through the primary season how our country continues to have difficulty confronting race matters -- Helms represented the worst aspects of white privilege, heterosupremacy, and is that in fact what the makes him a conservative icon.

My question -- is that something the GOP and all the conservative talking heads are willing to openly embrace when reminiscing about Helms? To avoid that discussion and dialogue would be a purposeful and egregious omission, a skirting of that opportunity to hold the current iteration of the GOP accountable for the evolution of its cultural conservatism.

The fact is that there have been so many missed opportunities to assess where we have been as a society and where we want to go -- the passing of Helms can be seen as the end of a sick, sad era only if people are willing to confront what motivated the man, his supporters and his detractors in that time. Without doing so we cannot learn anything about ourselves and our future.


The MSM will do the same as when Falwell Died
  Say he was a good man, but give no reasons why, and than the right wingers will focus on the left saying how hateful we are.

 People who celebrate the passing of these people need to be asked why we are glad.  It didn't happen when Falwell assumed room temp.  It wont happen with a Senator. Look at the  over 100 year old Thurman.

 The right wing saw an (R) by his name and assume he was great without looking at his track record.

 Bye Jesse, As the religous people believe that god will judge you I hope the punisjment fits the crime.



If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


[ Parent ]
I think, I will be most interested ... to hear OBAMA
To hear a full speech from Senator/preNominee Barack Obama. Delivered seated at a desk...talking to us about what this means to him and should mean to the whole country.  A most appropriate time for him to take the reins, or wheel, or joystick or whatever he would use to help us heal from all of this and forge us into a nation again. His challenge isn't quite that of Lincoln's but he needs to bear down and work just as hard to accomplish his big task.

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Good points, Pam...
...the handling of his death in MSM could certainly be a litmus test for this nation. But as so few in the GOP denounced him in life, I am not hopeful that they will now.

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[ Parent ]
Nudge nudge, wink wink from the MSM?
"Jesse Helms was a great man, if ya *know what I mean!  Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more."

They do this all the time.  They did it with Falwell, they did it with Reagan, now they'll do it with Helms.


[ Parent ]
No cheap thrill...we paid DEARLY to dance on that mo'fo's grave
" Getting a cheap thrill from dancing on his grave for me isn't exactly what I personally need out of this event, though I understand why the sentiment is out there. "

For those we loved/lost due to Helm's funding cuts, we survivors OWE this celebration.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
we'll call it a wake....yeah a wake
no matter what I'm dinking cuz he's dead, lucky I didn't insist on a stake through the heart to make sure he stays dead.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
drinking...fruedian slip or typo


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
freudian
another vodka stinger...I'll drink to that

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
On such a day.
SKOAL!

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
So he's been reclaimed on Independence Day...
I feel much more independent as a result.  :)


Hate stops a beating heart.

That's strange.
I thought he had died years ago.  I guess I was thinking about his brain and his body just now caught up with it.

I'm sad Jesse died on July 4th
the proper time for him to have kicked the bucket would have been January 21st, 2009 -- so he could have lived long enough to see Obama's inauguration.

Quite.
KUDOS

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Indeed
The best thing about the local coverage of Helms' death in North Carolina was when they went to commercial break, a Barack Obama ad came on.

The juxtaposition was awesome.


[ Parent ]
TRUE and there are Red Donate button ads.
On every major newsite I have looked at today. LARGE ones. Oh the $$$. But worth it if they breed more $$.

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Constituent Service
Pam, I'll tell you why his constituent service was always so Fabulous -- because a whole bunch of self-hating North Carolina gays worked in his Senate office, running it like we run anything we gays put our minds to: incredibly efficient, ruthlessly organized, prompt, personalized.

Yet, in their case, utterly without moral compass, unfortunately.


Dole has them too
And unlike Helms's homos, Liddy Dole's crew (she promised she wouldn't fire if they were outed by Mike Rogers), they stink at constituent services.

[ Parent ]
Let's hope, Pam..
and all other North Carolinians out there, that Liddy's terrible constituent services will send her packing in November!!!

"I like your Christ, but do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." ~Gandhi


[ Parent ]
Good Riddance
He was a hateful bigot.  Good riddance.

Newton, Massachusetts

The Guardian has the full and horrible lowdown on this slimy little shit
While Yahoo has a craven river of white-wash:

'one of the most powerful and baleful influences on American foreign policy, repeatedly preventing his country paying its UN contributions, voting against virtually all arms control measures, opposing international aid programmes as "pouring money down foreign rat holes", and avidly supporting military juntas in Latin America and minority white regimes in Southern Africa.'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl...


Good Riddance to Bad Trash
He was a repulsive racist, homophobic excuse for a human being who left the world a worse place for having existed. He's death is a nice birthday present to the country. Happy 4th of July all.

Charlie Black
I was just reading at Ben Smith's Politico blog that Charlie Black, McCain's chief strategist, was also Helms' chief strategist during his ugliest race-based campaigns.

I wonder if this was the reason he was chosen to run McCain's campaign against Obama.  


There must have been a gay technitian in the studio...
I was just watching a segue from a CBS-8 Las Vegas story about the death of Jesse Helms as the announcing crawl below his picture remained in place as his picture was removed and the flickering flames of the next story about grilling hazards faded in. The crawl still announcing Jesse Helms dead at 86 under the flames. It only lasted a second, but it HAD to have been on purpose.

HILARIOUS!  


I agree.
Hope someone caught it and can get if off the tape!

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


[ Parent ]
Pam, could I suggest
regarding your excellent question of:

...what does it all mean in terms of today's political landscape?

... that perhaps this in itself would be a worthy follow-up post/ debate?

Now that the news is over 8 hours old, I'm having more serious thoughts regarding the era that was Jesse Helms' direct doing and whether or not we're digging ourselves away from it or even deeper into the quagmire. I'm really not sure which way we're going, and that's very disturbing.

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interesting thought, Louise
One of the changes in our political landscape today is the constant refusal of many to admit the continued existence of overt racism, for instance, something that Jesse Helms had no qualms about sharing in public. PC culture has only driven those with the same feelings underground (perhaps only patting themselves on the back for being less crude).

[ Parent ]
Sadly
it seems SOMETHING has to be shoved into a closet, doesn't it? :(

And whenever that occurs, it allows the problems to be ignored instead of openly discussed, delaying or bypassing any real debate/ action. I get this now...

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I lived in NC from 1975-1983
I do not believe in speaking ill of the dead.  I believe that the dead should be spoken of in the manner in which they lived their life.  

Jacob Marley carried chains.  For Jesse Helms, he will carry piles of shit as big as the moon.  Because he spent his life EARNING the piles of shit.

He was a repulsive toad of a piece of crap.  Of all politicians in America at that time, he had the least of positive qualities.  His political career was based on racist hatred.  That's how he came to power.  He maintained power by running some of the most despicable campaigns in US history.  The "white hands" commercial especially stands out.

Of all politicians in US history, he is right up there is the list of evil guys.  Nixon is at the top, but Nixon opened China. Helms did nothing.  Helms is really as evil as McCarthy, and did much to continue the racist hatred of the 40s and 50s into the 70s.

Any day that a guy like Helms dies is a good day.  He spent a lifetime hating others.  He hated gays.  He hated liberals.  He hated blacks.  He hated everybody except white crackers.  And the white crackers in NC loved him because they also hate blacks, gays, and liberals.  The backwoods small towns of NC are filled with nasty people.  I went to Thanksgiving dinner at my then-girlfriend's house.  I was not welcome.  I was in a sub-version of "Guess who's coming to dinner?"  Liberals and blacks were equally unwelcome. Especially uppity liberals who were well-educated.

It's a good day.  A very evil person has died.  


Yeah, well, that "nil nisi" crap never flies with me
Especially when the "mortuis" in question was directly responsible for a whole HELL of a lot of "mortus" due to his policies and procedures.

He's dead, and the air we breathe is just a little bit less polluted as a result.


[ Parent ]
Understated
"He leaves a long, dark trail of professional racial bigotry (he opposed the MLK national holiday, and civil rights legislation) and homophobia (that list is so long, you don't know where to begin)."

Helms was such a poor excuse for a human being that even that is an understatement.

There aren't all that many people who I feel it is truly and demonstrably impossible to say anything good about (I can even say something nice about Daddy Bush: I like his policy on broccoli), but Helms is one - and, while he was still undeservedly using air, he may have been at the top of the list, even above Dubya.

To bastardize 'Joe the Georgian,' an Al Stewart a late-30s historical song sung from the point of view of former cohorts of Stalin - who are all in Hell awaiting their former boss's arrival - Jesse, I hope you like the next few million years.

Kat

>^..^<


Some idiots call him a "patriot".
Over a week ago, we (the open freethinkers) lost a controversial figure.  Now the homophobic racists lost one of their own.

Jesse Helms = Roy Cohen's ugly straight uncle


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


The End of a Bigot
I think columnist Andrew Sullivan summed it up best today with this headline: "The End of a Bigot"

To quote from Shakespeare
The evil that men do lives after them. The good is oft interred with their bones.

Speaking as a conservative, there's precious little good to bury. Some, but not much.

The evil though - let's get rid of that. There's enough of it that it will take quite a while. Starting with his amendments to the Americans with Disabilities Act, that so disadvantaged Intersexed and Transsexual people, and led to the need for an inclusive ENDA.  

There is no situation so complex it can't get even worse


Another of his legacies still on the books is the HIV ban.
It has long been known (probably for some fifteen years or so now) that the blanket prohibition on any HIV foreigner being allowed in the country is utterly without any public health benefit.  Indeed, it most likely actively harms the public health by preventing researchers, policy makers, and activists from doing their best work here.  

Yet still the Helms amendment lingers, thanks to a Congress unwilling to reverse the irrational bigotry of this one man.


[ Parent ]
Joke of Charlie Crist's marriage
bride = joke

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


to Jennifer Helm-Knox (closeted grandaughter)
You worked for that hateful B*STARD and you are a lesbian
in the words of Dick Cheney..."Go F*CK YOURSELF!"

    http://www.blogactive.com/

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Haters Everywhere
Indeed, Helms did leave quite a legacy. Just look at this page. The hate you're all spewing is more toxic than anything he ever said.

 


What hate are we spewing?
  We are celebrateing the passing of a heartless man that has caused more harm to other citizens in the US.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

[ Parent ]
Come On
Hate is hate, and in so "celebrateing" (your spelling) a man's passing you're no better than he was. But, of course, hating a hater makes you right, right?

How sad.


[ Parent ]
again, were is the hate we are spewing?
  Being joyful that the person in question is at room temp is hating.   Being glad that a person was so open and honest about how he felt about blacks,  and about LGBT people.  Seeing a leader of all his wrong doings that affected so many people, raised the level of discrimination against so many people,  I hate the things he stood for and believed to be true.  I am glad he is at room temp.  and I will celebrate his death, because he can nolonger spew his garbage.



If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


[ Parent ]
Kindly spare us the false piety
When a person dies, it is fitting and proper to celebrate his death in the manner that he/she earned by their life.

Helms lived a life hating others.  He hated gays.  He hated blacks.  

His life was a waste of protein.  He did nothing positive.

I celebrate his death in the fitting manner that he lived.

He was a piece of shit.  I'm glad he's dead.  I only wish that he had suffered.


[ Parent ]
Crash27
You created your new account TODAY and came here for the sole purpose of exhibiting typical troll behavior.

Do you really think we don't KNOW THIS???

Helms is dead. All of his choices in life were his own and are available to history. He never once recanted his decisions or opinions regarding race or homosexuality; he remained a bigotted racist to the end.

But what about your choices?

What does it say about YOU that you are up at 3am, scanning about and creating new IDs as to scold those who denounce the past actions of an elected official? Look in the mirror... who DOES that???

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Crash has his work cut out for him
While obituary writers and journalists seem to be air-brushing away the reality of Helms' career for the most part, commenters everywhere I've looked are nearly unanimous in their harsh condemnations.

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto

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I feel sorry for you.
Geez, Louise. You're just full of anger, aren't you? I'll pray for you, and not with false piety; with honest sadness for the legacy you're proudly carrying on, and with hope in my heart that you and others here will learn to grow up and be charitable to others in death, regardless of how nasty they were in life.

And, by the way, I wasn't up at 3 a.m. scolding. Time zones are different around the world.


[ Parent ]
You are still
a troll who came a'calling to scold all us sinners. STFU.

And said with a happy smile on my face!!  

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"I'll pray for you"

I have often thought that this particular form of guilt trip should receive the reply "Why thank you, I'll masturbate for you!"

Both are activities which are solo in nature and ought not be discussed in polite society.  (but at least one is fun)

Question:  What does an atheist do when they fall to the floor and start "speaking in tongues"?

Answer: Get a CAT scan.


[ Parent ]
Nice try
Accurately assessing someone is not - and can never be - hate.

Saying that the world is better off with out evil (evil things, evil specific persons) is not - and can never be - hate.

Nice try, Crash.

Kat

>^..^<


[ Parent ]
An obit for Jesse from the UK
This, from the Guardian, is about as exhaustive a catalog of the man's offenses as I can imagine: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl... The second line is:
To echo this newspaper's memorable comment on the death of William Randolph Hearst, it is hard even now to think of him with charity.

And then they're off and running.

crash27
crash27,

kindly position yourself in front of Jesse Helm's headstone to deflect the hatred..and I can p*ss on both of you without a second stream.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


Jesse Helms STILL DEAD
smiles

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


[ Parent ]
given the GOP I still see out there today. Not too many lessons learned.
That's no surprise.  Today's GOP, especially in the South, is run by the same people who voted for George Wallace in '68 and still take pride in the legacy of Nathan Bedford Forrest.  

If after almost a century and a half they still celebrate the founder of the KKK why do you think they'd change now?


Mr. Lincoln's Army
   Let us not forget Senator Trent Lott, an admitted Jesse Helms supporter. How bigotry survives in the Senate is a testament to what we still have to overcome in this nation since the civil rights act of 1964 and 1991, as we continue to struggle for equality for all, as we still struggling in Mr. Lincoln's army.  

I'd rather be a lion for one day, than a sheep for my entire life.


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