The RNC platform: sorry LCRs, the homophobia is alive and well

Does Anyone Honestly Expect LCR to Listen Though?

We're told by the right time and time again our relationships are worthless. We're told they defile the marriage of heterosexual. The Republican party platform directly insults their ability to be parents as well.

Republicans tank bills specifically designed to help gays in one way or another because it might "infringe" on their supposed religious beliefs. Even anti-bullying laws that protect children from being harassed because people think they're gay or because other kids just happen to use that as an avenue of attack. But no, kids can't have those protections.

Their whole "change from within" is just the lie they tell themselves to avoid having to face the reality they are aligned with people who pretty much as sworn to keep them as second class citizens.


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by: TheAngryFag @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 05:22:56 AM CDT

Silly Republicans!

Marriage is for both homosexual and heterosexual ADULTS- not a cover for pregnant heterosexual teen children of embarrassed vice-presidential candidates!  

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by: Louise @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 06:03:28 AM CDT

To quote their own propoganda...

The two-parent family still provides the best environment of stability, discipline, responsibility, and character. Children in homes without fathers are more likely to commit a crime, drop out of school, become violent, become teen parents, use illegal drugs, become mired in poverty, or have emotional or behavioral problems.

Irony- U R doin it rite, repugs!

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by: Louise @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 06:06:44 AM CDT

I guess that the Palin family had some issues?

Sad, that they were probably NOT a two parent family because of her career and look what it led to.

If only ALL women stayed home all of the time to raise their children, wore pearls to do the dishes, and kept a glass pitcher of milk in the fridge....

"Ward, talk to the Beaver.."

I tell you Chica that no greater abomination exists than women denying their spirit of sisterhood and instead becoming the oppressor. -Rebeca, Universidad Complutense de Madrid

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by: MauraHennessey @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 12:18:25 PM CDT

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I like this part you put in bold,

  This part right here

We also encourage states to review their marriage and divorce laws in order to strengthen marriage.

 What part of Divorce Laws do they want to review?  Are they finally getting the message that Divorce is the biggest and only real threat to Marriage?  But for some strange reason they still need to keep Loving and Committed Same-Sex Couples from Marrying?

 But than while I was surfing the net, I came accross this from one news now and it looks like they are loosing,

But the bad news, adds Staver, is that the decision could change the next time a challenge to DOMA or a state law goes to court. "Now, we still have the federal Defense of Marriage Act intact, but frankly, we should not have to continually hold our breath every time this issue goes before a judge - wondering whether a judge, with the stroke of a pen, will undermine and rewrite the definition of marriage," the attorney contends.

The use of Activist Judge wasn't used.  Maybe they have realized that these Judges are just doing their jobs?  Do they see that if Prop 8 in California doesn't pass that states that have DOMAs in place are weak and will not stand.  And as if that isn't a kick to the head of the Fundies.

 I read this as well on onenewsnow about the bufferzones to which these jerks can harrass a woman walking into an abortion clinic,

A Massachusetts judge has rejected a challenge of the state's new buffer zone law.
Massachusetts enacted a 35-foot buffer zone for protestors and sidewalk counselors at abortion facilities in November 2007, and it was challenged. But the court said it is not an unconstitutional infringement on First Amendment rights.

 And what are they argueing about going from 15 foot to 35 foot bufferzone?

According to the attorney, pro-life counselors can hardly hand out leaflets at a distance of 35-feet, let alone converse with incoming abortion patients.

 Now I don't know how many of you (the readers) have gone to one of these clinics, but when a bunch of the prolifers are basically blocking the entrance, spewing their garbage and handing out their pamphlets, you don't want to have a conversarion with them.  Trust me, I have helped escort a few women to the clinic before they had bufferzones.  It was like watching Scabs crossing a union picket line only worse.  

 Any hoo, I love this last para graph,

"Well, the fact of the matter is, if this particular case is not overturned and other states decide to adopt 35-foot buffer zones around abortion clinics, it seems to me that the pro-life movement essentially will come to an end,"

 Only if a 35 foot bufferzone would kill the pro-life movement.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.

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by: HappyCat @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 06:32:47 AM CDT

Divorce

Yep, I harp on it all the time, but we need to keep pressing the issue.  If they want to thump their bibles about gays, they need to also look at the more numerous prohibitions on divorce.  And if they think being gay is a choice, they certainly must admit that getting divorce is a choice.  Even if the government acknowledges divorce, churches don't have to.

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by: scioto @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:21:23 AM CDT

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So right about divorce - now market the idea

I love the idea of a counter/satire group like The Seventh Commandment Brigade.  Anytime an anti-gay marriage rally/protest happens, respond with...

THE SEVENTH* COMMANDMENT BRIGADE

(*or Sixth Commandment if you choose the Roman Catholic or Lutheran lifestyle, because even all Christian religions can't agree on how to number the commandments given to Moses for JEWISH law)

The new group's statement of principles:

Heterosexual hypocrisy is ruining the institution of marriage!

Our Congress/legislature is not allowing us to vote on increasing the punishment for adulterers and divorcers.

Because all laws must be based on the Bible, we must do more to enact protections based on the Seventh Commandment (Exodus 20:14 and Deuteronomy 5:18).

While adulterers, divorces, and second/third/fourth marriages are an abomination, those who profit from these actions are even more despicable.

We should not accept co-sponsors to the Defense of Marriage Amendment that are adulterers (Sen. David Vitter R-Louisiana) or divorcers (Sen John McCain R-Arizona).

Special Note for gift acceptance policy: So-called "family" lawyers like NC state Rep. Tim Moore make money off the failure of marriages and child custody cases. How can he call himself "pro-family?" No donations from "family" lawyers like these hypocrites are to be accepted.

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by: HunterC @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:50:22 AM CDT

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Wasted Time & Effort

I don't understand why they just didn't adopt the Fascist Research Council's 25 point manifesto as their platform since they're essentially the same.  

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by: Jon Michaels @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 07:07:46 AM CDT

The LCRs

I've come to understand that the Republican gays simply have different priorities.  Ones I don't agree with, but they put it plainly.

They truly believe McCain's lackluster military record makes him the winner.  Barack and Biden have not served, so apparently a man who graduated almost at the bottom (790 out of 795) at the naval academy, had an astounding 20-hours of combat the whole war, never lead a combat or peactime mission, but spent years as a POW (and may suffer a lifelong mental disorder because of it) is the winner.  Because, as one gay republican put it, defense trumps everything.  They're not electing a president:  they're electing a Commander in Chief.  So to them, everything else can wait.  I was told that until the left produces another Kennedy, there's no reason to vote for a Democrat.

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by: PunkZanyJ @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 07:30:12 AM CDT

I agree

They're convinced, for whatever reason, that the Republicans will lower their taxes, giving them more money.  All evidence to the contrary, they can't give that up.  

It's like doing a math problem and trying to explain over and over that 2+2=4, even if you want it to be 3.

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by: MileHighDawg @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:14:00 AM CDT

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Pam, you are trying to convert fanatics

After a quarter of a century of increasing bigotry and intolerance only hard-core, willfully ignorant and deliberately blinkered GLBT folk could follow the GOP. I think your energies would be better directed elsewhere.

Mind you, though, I have no problem with you pointing out to them their willful ignorance and deliberate blinkers. There are worse (and less fun) hobbies to have.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même merde.

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by: TechBear @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 08:56:46 AM CDT

Is there an LCR Outreach Program?

Isn't there a certain level of delusion - upon reaching which an intervention is required?

On C-SPAN this morning, one of the callers asked if by selecting Gov. Palin, had McCain lost the steam behind his "experience" argument against Sen. Obama.  LCR President Patrick Sammons began repeating the Republican talking point of "Obama began running for President as soon as he came to Washington and that with Gov. Palin on the ticket, the Republicans have more combined executive experience than the entire Democratic ticket."

This is, of course, a delusional statement and one has to think that while ordinary delusion coming from Republicans has been the norm since Nixon, the LCR claim to be a different kind of Republican can only be weakened by spouting the same tall tales.

Obama was elected in November 2004 and sworn in to office in January 2005, his presidential campaign began in January 2007.  During years in the Senate, he has served on the Foreign Affair committee and also chaired his own subcommittee.  From this position, he has been given access to secured national government briefings on either planned or adopted policy - and has even established a back channel relationship with our current Secretary of State- Condoleezza Rice - such that he conferred with her before his most recent overseas trip through Asia and Europe - during which he met with our troops as well as our allies.  I think there was something on that trip about a speech before almost a quarter-million Germans, but I will have to check my records on that.

And that is just a review of some actions he has done - with a focus on this year - in the midst of running a campaign for the highest office in the land.

Gov. Palin has - as the commander-in-chief of the Alaskan National Guard - turned them over to the Secretary of Defense for deployment overseas.

These are the facts.  It does a disservice to everyone to obscure these facts.  One would think the LCR could establish more credibility through a simple acknowledgement of the facts.

Without struggle, there can be no progress.

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by: jericho4119 @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 09:15:43 AM CDT

At least heterosexist

They're sure that their heterosexual lives are better than our homosexual ones.  It gets creepy when they're against government involvement in their lives, but completely fine with government involvement in other people's.

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by: MileHighDawg @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 10:11:37 AM CDT

The Republicans are about as bad as you can get, and voting for them is truly insane.

But there's another party that really is as bad as you can get. It's the Democratic (sic) Party. They voted overwhelmingly for DOMA and DADT and refuse to repeal them. Bill Clinton, like Barak Obama, has made a career of pandering to bigots. After DOMA passed he used your donations (if you were dumb enough to send the Democrats money) to pay of radio ads boasting about his signature on DOMA, and to add insult to injury those ads appeared on rancid redneck religious stations in the South.

It's the same party whose DNC Chief of Staff is being sued for antigay discrimination by none other than the DNC's former GLBT affairs director. You're donations will go a long way towards paying for Dean and Daughtry's hefty legal bills and the large settlement they'll have to pay.

And keep in mind that this is the same party ruled by the Chamber of Commerce that shredded ENDA to please them. Then, after it'd pass both Houses of Congress they simply tossed the Mathew Shepard Hate Crimes bill in the garbage. They opposed same sex marriage and have the same solution to our agenda - States Rights - that and earlier Democrat, George Wallace proposed to deal with civil rights legislation. And they learned their lesson from Rove. Now it's the Democrats who've mastered the art of pandering to bigots. They're very good at it.

Voting for Democrats makes us politically impotent and we're paying a heavy price for our helplessness: Katrina, poverty, the blight of bigotry, a crash and burn economy and unending wars. It's not just unprincipled; it's reckless to waste our time, money or votes on either Democrats or Republicans. We should be building mass movements to end their rule and get us out of the last closet, the political closet inhabited by Stonewall Democrats and Log Cabin Republicans.

On November 4th vote for the union led and financed US Labor Party (if it makes it past the Democrat's (sic) roadblocks). If not vote for socialist or communist candidates as a protest or join the scores of millions who sit it out because they're smart enough to refuse to vote for the lesser bigot, the lesser warmonger or the lesser evil.

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  

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by: donal1944 @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 11:12:13 AM CDT

I agree with you in spirit

but there is no way I'm throwing away my vote on a 3rd, 4th, or 5th party candidate.  Nor am I staying home either, all of those options simply hands the office to McCain.

what I don't think you realize is that not enough people on both sides of the fence agree with you on this one.  Certainly not enough to actually do anything useful. The majority of people who believe this way are liberals, so this does nothing more than pull votes from Obama -- making McCain the winner.  Until you can find someone, or something that appeals to enough people to pull a significant amount of votes from both sides, this is pointless.  Until a viable 3rd party candidate enters the ring this is simply a good idea with no legs.  I realize the idea is to bring forth a 3rd candidate who can really pull sway and votes away from the Dems and Reps, but really, that's not what's happening.  Instead of dividing up two parties into 3rds, you're simply dividing the democrat voters in half  --assuring victory for the Reps, and defeat for the Dems and 3rd party.

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by: PunkZanyJ @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 12:18:56 PM CDT

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PunkZany, Your vote isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

The Democrats will continue to engineer their own defeats by consistently betraying their constituents. That is the only reason they lost in 2000 and 2004.

On the war - the Democrats are going to continue the slaughter and Obama dementedly wants to add a nuclear power, Pakistan, to the list of nations to be invaded. The war will go on until the US is defeated like it was in Vietnam.  

On the economy - the Democrats are for NAFTA and other union busting laws, always vote for tax cuts for the one groups that never needs it - the rich - and always votes to reregulate predatory corporations. Salmonella, anyone?

On bigotry - the Democrats are now better at it, or worse from out point of view, than the Republicans. Karl Rove's time is up, now it's Obama's turn.  

The time when they can lie and get away with will soon be over. The process of relieving them of their power and wealth will undoubtedly have an electoral component, but what will ultimately do the trick is the creation of militant mass movements that won't take no for an answer.

Really, on the face of it, relying on rigged elections to accomplish change is part delusion, part suicide.

The looter rich much prefer working with Democrats like Obama and the Clintons - they're greedier, they fool more people and they're able to get away with a lot more than Republicans.  

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by: donal1944 @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 13:13:15 PM CDT

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Republican decency hierarchy...

I respect the determined efforts of single parents, too -- it takes a lot of dedication and toughness to hoe that row -- but I'm not so sure the GOP is being honest about its supposed recognition of this fact.  Look at their past policy history (what's the last time they did a DAMN thing for, say, daycare or affordable housing), plus the party's infamous, so-called-"moral" buffoonery surrounding anything even implicitly connected to sex (single parenthood included)... and it starts to look more like they're just throwing this in as a jab.  ("See, queers are even below single parents on our food chain!")  

It's absolutely confounding to me that the GOP thinks this way.  One would think that if a dedicated, loving single parent is awesome (which s/he is!), TWO dedicated, loving parents would be double-awesome (having twice the chronological and emotional resources at their disposal).  In terms of loving caregivers, one would think "the more the merrier" regardless of gender; the fact that the Republicans apparently don't is something the Democrats could REALLY make political hay out of...

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by: CubPaws2008 @ Tue Sep 02, 2008 at 15:52:03 PM CDT

Marriage is not

Marriage is not a game. Recently, Marie Douglas-David, a member of royalty, previously successful investment banker and soon to be ex wife of George David, former CEO of United Technologies, is subject to a lot of debate.  She is also Swedish.  Marie Douglas David is asking for at lot more money than she seems to be entitled to, as the post nuptial agreement she signed leaves her with an already determined amount.  She won't be hurting for a payday loan - she stands to get about $43 million.  It seems difficult to summon sympathy for her, despite allegations of abuse, abandonment and affairs (on both parts), from a woman that blatantly married a man for his money, Marie Douglas-David.

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by: Forrest @ Tue Mar 31, 2009 at 03:35:23 AM CDT