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CA: pro-Prop 8 ad is released; NYT calls for measure's defeat

by: Pam Spaulding

Mon Sep 29, 2008 at 09:15:00 AM EDT


Here it is, the volley from the "Yes on Prop. 8" bigots who want to roll back the legal right of same sex couples to marry in the Golden State:

Jeremy at Good As You has a more entertaining offering. The NYT weighed in on the ballot measure with an editorial, Preserving California's Constitution. It is below the fold.

Pam Spaulding :: CA: pro-Prop 8 ad is released; NYT calls for measure's defeat
California voters will have a chance in November to protect the rights of gay men and women, and to preserve the state's Constitution. They should vote against Proposition 8, which seeks to amend that Constitution to prevent people of the same sex from marrying.

The measure would overturn a firmly grounded State Supreme Court decision that said everyone has a basic right "to establish a legally recognized family with the person of one's choice." It said the state's strong domestic partnership statute was inadequate, making California the second state to end the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage. Massachusetts did so in 2004.

Whether this important civil rights victory endures is now up to California voters. Opponents of giving gay couples the protections, dignity and respect that come with marriage are working furiously to try to overturn the court ruling through Proposition 8. It is our fervent hope that Californians will reject this mean-spirited attempt to embed second-class treatment of one group of citizens in the State Constitution.

If passed, Proposition 8 would add language to the State Constitution stating that "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California." Supporters of the amendment complain about the "activist" judges who wrote the court decision. But the majority in the 4-to-3 ruling was acting to protect a vulnerable group from unfair treatment. Enforcing the state's guarantee of equal protection is a job assigned to judges.

It is true that in 2000 California voters approved a ballot measure recognizing only heterosexual marriages as valid. But since then, the public has grown more comfortable with idea of marriage equality. The California Legislature passed a measure to let gay couples marry in 2005, and another in 2007. Both were vetoed by the Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, who took the wrong position - that the change had to come either from the courts or through a ballot initiative.

To his credit, Mr. Schwarzenegger is now among those opposing Proposition 8. To his discredit, John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, is in favor of restoring marriage discrimination. Barack Obama opposes the initiative, as do California's senators, Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein, both Democrats.

The proponents of Proposition 8 make the familiar claim that legalizing same-sex marriage undercuts marriage between men and women. But thousands of gay and lesbian couples have been married in California since the May ruling and marriage remains intact.

Similar discriminatory measures are on the ballot in Arizona and Florida. They also should be rejected.

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I think Pepperdine should take a look at Richard Peterson
Regardless of his personal and political beliefs for him to intentionally imply that refusal of religious institutions to perform or accept gay marriages will lead to loss of tax-exempt status is a bold faced lie.  If one of their professors is mis-stating law in an ad, they have to wonder if he is accurate in what he teaches to their law students.

Why Newsom?
I can understand that ad working outside of California, where people are afraid of San Francisco.

But, Gavin Newsom is widely popular here in California. He has something like a 75% favorable rating. Most people here love Gavin Newsom. He's like a real celebrity.

The ad was obviously made by outsiders who don't understand us. It isn't going to win many votes.

Weird.



When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.


not with the church people though


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They try to use this against Newsom, too
Doesn't work. He's just magnificent. He's handsome, articulate, and just enough of a a bad boy to make people take him seriously.

They should use Newsom in all their print ads, too.

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.


I thought Newsome was divorced
and on marriage #2.  

FYI - the Catholic church does not advocate a position that the bible is the complete and inerrant word of G-d.

The old testament also advocates a punishment of death for mixing fabrics (it's somewhere in Leviticus)  


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Church vs. State
I think it's odd that Pastor MacArthur is asking Newsom about personal religious beliefs in terms of his advocacy as Mayor. Newsom's initial answer along the lines of "my personal beliefs aren't important to this topic" was right on. It's his responsibility to run the city in a way that brings its whole population together, not as a theocratic microcosm.

While I think Newsom could have answered more effectively by also stressing the religious point that acceptance of homosexuality within congregations varies by church, I do think he did a good job of stressing how embracing the whole population has helped San Francisco become an economic powerhouse of the West coast. I would have liked to see him say something about SF not being only a city of Christians, but one of Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists, and a broad array of other faiths. I'd say he could have rebutted the inerrancy doctrine the pastor was pushing, but as a Catholic it may not have been obvious that was the direction of his question.


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Thankfully, the ad sucked. Hard.
Frank Schubert, who months ago waxed eloquent about pursuing the "mushy middle" vote, is now touting an ad that juxtaposes a happy crowd (cheering Gavin on) with a dour Pepperdine prof. who comes off like a used car salesman.

To quote Frank, "stick a fork in it" ...

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it really did, didn't it?
if i were uninformed on the issue, i'd come away from that more confused.  maybe their strategy is only to motivate already entrenched haters, not convert fence-sitters.  but then again, the ad failed since it didn't tell people go get busy.

it is also interesting to contrast the feel of this ad with the first VOTE NO ON PROP 8 ad.  The NO ad is warm and loving and shot in soft light.  The YES ad is cold, mocking, and fear-mongering in broken framed shots and using a dark color scheme.  which will the average fence-sitter want ot identify with?

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typical, so typical
 The pastor shoots a question to Newsome that is a matter of PERSONAL belief. One's religious faith isn't enforceable by civil law, nor is freedom to express it about controlling the lives of your fellow citizens who do not choose or share your belief.

 The pastor is making a religious argument for a civil law. Atheists, non believers, criminals and adulterers can all marry once and again, period. And one can marry someone and should, of their SAME SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

     Larry King has been married eight times, and the pastor didn't refuse to be on the show. Gavin Newsome, unfortunately, proved to be a terrible representative of exemplery sexual behavior or marital behavior.

  The point is, churches are leading the charge in support of Prop 8. They are lying about the effects of marriage equality (which haven't happened at all) and they are lying about the protective or defining abilities of the amendment.

   And they are being destructive with regard to the intents and purposes of state and federal Constitutions, which are anti discrimination and anti exclusion. So they are NOT protecting one tradition in favor of destroying another.

 This ad's text is saying that the judges ignored 4 million voters. No, the voters shouldn't have had the decision in the first place and shouldn't now. If anything is representative of a tyranny of the majority on a minority, this is it.
  And if nothing else, the justices were obligated to protect THAT right that gay people should have from such tyranny, let alone the ability to marry.

  The opposition to marriage had no case, no good case law and no good argument against gay couples and the right to marry.

   Once the public is well educated and informed on exactly what's going on, they understand that the opposition is using fear tactics and lying, whereas...us proponents, are not.


Richard Peterson
It's time to let Pepperdine University know about Peterson's lies (for those that don't know, Pepperdine is a Christian university, but never mentions that in its advertising, etc.)

Here's Richard Peterson's bio:

http://law.pepperdine.edu/acad...

Here's his email address:

richard.peterson@pepperdine.edu

Here's the dean's email address (yes, it's THAT Ken Starr):

ken.starr@pepperdine.edu

Finally, here's the President of Pepperdine:

andrew.benton@pepperdine.edu

The main campus phone number is:

(310) 506-4000.  Ask for the President's office.


I didn't know Pepperdine was a religious university
Since it's a Christian University, I fully expect them to ignore any complaints but maybe I'm wrong.

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Hey remember that Kmiec guy touring with Obama?
Also from Peperdine.....
That school has been on the forefront of bigotry for awhile...

Douglas W. Kmiec, who holds the Caruso Family Chair in Constitutional Law at Pepperdine, was a featured speaker on NPR's On Point show about the legal and political implications of the ruling. The showed aired on Tuesday, May 20.

Professor Kmiec was also featured in The Christian Post on the same day, explaining that the court's decision on gay marriage will have more impact than the similar decision by the Supreme Court of Massachusetts to legalize gay marriage in 2004 b



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Their school newspaper is called
the Christian Chronicle (at least Seaver College part).

SoulForce made a stop there last year...

mostly because Pepperdine won't recognize the GLBT organization now unoffically referred to as Malibu GLEE.


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