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That debate wasn't about Joe the Plumber

by: Pam Spaulding

Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 05:01:33 AM EDT


(BTW, Joe the Plumber isn't registered to vote.)

Despite being mentioned 27 times during Wednesday's debate, Joe The Plumber Wurzelbacher wasn't the big news of the head-to-head between Barack Obama and John McCain. IMHO, it was the final, no-mistakes-about-it repudiation of the presidency of George W. Bush by the man topping the ticket of the Republican party in 2008:

MCCAIN: Senator Obama, I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run four years ago. I'm going to give a new direction to this economy in this country.

...OBAMA: Even FOX News disputes it, and that doesn't happen very often when it comes to accusations about me. So the fact of the matter is that if I occasionally have mistaken your policies for George Bush's policies, it's because on the core economic issues that matter to the American people, on tax policy, on energy policy, on spending priorities, you have been a vigorous supporter of President Bush.

The man who voted with the current president 90% of the time just undermined his candidacy and illuminated why John McCain can't close the deal.  And the Obama campaign capitalized on it with this new ad:

McCAIN:  Senator Obama, I am not President Bush.
ANNC:  True...but you did vote with Bush 90% of the time.
ANNC: Tax breaks for big corporations and the wealthy
ANNC: But almost nothing for the middle class - same as Bush.
ANNC: Keep spending ten billion a month in Iraq while our own economy struggles - same as Bush.
ANNC: You may not be George Bush, but...
MCCAIN: I voted with the President over 90% of the time...higher than a lot of my even Republican colleagues.
Even McCain, by his own statements during the debate, has had enough of Republican rule. Unfortunately, his campaign and party represents Einstein's definition of insanity: McCain and the GOP plan to do the same thing over and over again -- lower taxes, deregulate -- and expect different results.

The country is coming to the realization that they have been pickpocketed by the party of its own prosperity, and now it's being led not by the jocular frat boy you want to have a beer with, but an angry, nasty, erratic man of many mansions who is out of touch with the economic reality being experienced out there.

There were several other nuggets in the debate that were meaningful of course. More below the fold.

Pam Spaulding :: That debate wasn't about Joe the Plumber
* McCain won't take responsibility for the hate-filled rhetoric fomented by his negative campaigning. He claimed that he's repudiated all of those infamous incidents we've seen out there, but hey -- his supporters are patriotic.
MCCAIN: Let me just say categorically I'm proud of the people that come to our rallies. Whenever you get a large rally of 10,000, 15,000, 20,000 people, you're going to have some fringe peoples. You know that. And I've -- and we've always said that that's not appropriate.

But to somehow say that group of young women who said "Military wives for McCain" are somehow saying anything derogatory about you, but anything -- and those veterans that wear those hats that say "World War II, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq," I'm not going to stand for people saying that the people that come to my rallies are anything but the most dedicated, patriotic men and women that are in this nation and they're great citizens.

He tried to divert attention from the bigotry of his supporters to hide behind a man McCain formerly considered a hero, Congressman John Lewis. Obama smacked the senator down hard.
OBAMA: I mean, look, if we want to talk about Congressman Lewis, who is an American hero, he, unprompted by my campaign, without my campaign's awareness, made a statement that he was troubled with what he was hearing at some of the rallies that your running mate was holding, in which all the Republican reports indicated were shouting, when my name came up, things like "terrorist" and "kill him," and that you're running mate didn't mention, didn't stop, didn't say "Hold on a second, that's kind of out of line."

And I think Congressman Lewis' point was that we have to be careful about how we deal with our supporters.

* Reproductive freedom: McCain believes in state womb control, and that it is a matter that should be left to the states to recriminalize, Obama believes a woman has the right to choose.
SCHIEFFER: But you don't want Roe v. Wade to be overturned?

MCCAIN: I thought it was a bad decision. I think there were a lot of decisions that were bad. I think that decisions should rest in the hands of the states...I would consider anyone in their qualifications. I do not believe that someone who has supported Roe v. Wade that would be part of those qualifications. But I certainly would not impose any litmus test.

...OBAMA: Now I would not provide a litmus test. But I am somebody who believes that Roe versus Wade was rightly decided. I think that abortion is a very difficult issue and it is a moral issue and one that I think good people on both sides can disagree on. But what ultimately I believe is that women in consultation with their families, their doctors, their religious advisers, are in the best position to make this decision. And I think that the Constitution has a right to privacy in it that shouldn't be subject to state referendum, any more than our First Amendment rights are subject to state referendum, any more than many of the other rights that we have should be subject to popular vote.

* We learned last night that McCain thinks Sarah Palin is a role model who is a "Bresh of freth air." The man who has as his slogan "Country First" clearly didn't have that in mind when he chose the wholly unprepared Alaska governor as his running mate.

("Fresh air" remark  2:49 in.)

MCCAIN: Well, Americans have gotten to know Sarah Palin. They know that she's a role model to women and other -- and reformers all over America. She's a reformer. She is -- she took on a governor who was a member of her own party when she ran for governor. When she was the head of their energy and natural resources board, she saw corruption, she resigned and said, "This can't go on."

She's given money back to the taxpayers. She's cut the size of government. She negotiated with the oil companies and faced them down, a $40 billion pipeline of natural gas that's going to relieve the energy needs of the United -- of what they call the lower 48.

She's a reformer through and through. And it's time we had that bresh of freth air (sic) -- breath of fresh air coming into our nation's capital and sweep out the old-boy network and the cronyism that's been so much a part of it that I've fought against for all these years.

He didn't go on to state how she's qualified to be president, either. And reform corruption? Hell, she's part of the problem up in her home state. And it's hard to sell this ticket as reform oriented with little matters like this...whoops!
Early in 2007, just as her husband launched his presidential bid, Cindy McCain decided to resolve an old problem -- the lack of cellular telephone coverage on her remote 15-acre ranch near Sedona, nestled deep in a tree-lined canyon called Hidden Valley. By the time Sen. John McCain's presidential bid was in full swing this summer, the ranch had wireless coverage from the two cellular companies most often used by campaign staff -- Verizon Wireless and AT&T.
Even Joe the Plumber can't distract anyone from the debacle we saw last night.
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debacle

It was a debacle for McCain. You'd have to be a committed twenty-percenter not to have felt McCain's seething rage and desperation.

And just what great evil is McCain trying to scare up votes with? That Joe Wurzelbacher's tax rate could go from 36% to 39%? On $250K, that's $7500. That's going to keep small businesses from hiring and hurt Joe six-pack? Please John. How many people are going to weep for a man that has rounded up enough cash to buy a business that will earn him more than $250K/year (over $7500 no less!)? Not me.

Last night the contrast between McCain's desperation and Obama's levelheadedness was clear and on display for all to take in. Even a focus group at Fox news experienced people switching to Obama (from ThinkProgress):

10:40: A “clear majority” of Frank Luntz’s focus group on Fox News said Obama won. (Ambinder: “Four members of Frank Luntz’s 23-person focus group switched to Obama. None switched to McCain. Brit Hume did not seem happy to learn that.”)



Electricity's for light bulbs!

It's progressive
The tax (as Obama proposed it) is progressive, so the 39% band only kicks in on earnings beyond the initial $250K. That means on $300K, Joe Plumber's tax would be $90K on the initial $250K, plus 19.5K on the next £50K. If it was 36% across the board he'd be paying $108K tax - so he'll be paying a whopping $1.5K extra in taxes on $300K - that's a 0.5% increase compared to earnings. If his company earns $500K, the tax is $187.5K increase is $7.5K, or 1.5%.

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Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.


[ Parent ]
even less to complain about
You're right!  So, Joe has even less to complain about (especially if you add in Rupi's thoughts below).

Electricity's for light bulbs!

[ Parent ]
Doesn't matter
It sort of doesn't matter if the debate was about Joe, because good old Joe with his quarter million dollar profit plumbing business isn't registered to vote.

He doesn't make a quarter million dollars profit either, so he'll get a tax cut under Obama's plan.

Odd that he would be so interested in meeting the candidate, well, except his dad is apparently big Republican donor.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/...


And...
We learned last night that McCain thinks Sarah Palin is a role model who is a "Bresh of freth air."
And we also learned that McBush has no cogent argument in favor of her being regarded as fit to be president.  The whole 'reformer' thing now has more holes in it than most early exiters from The Sopranos.  So what was left?  

Special needs kids?

That's what qualifies someone to run the United States government?

I don't think even Palin herself believes that - which, ironically, probably makes her more qualified to be president than McBush.

>^..^<


From Politico..
They're claiming the plumber isn't registered to vote.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/...

Tax basics - explained ;-)
There is a difference between taxable income and revenue.  If Joe Wurzelbacher's plumbing business (btw.: his last name sounds like a real bad joke: in Germany, where this name obviously comes from, you would think of a Hillbilly to the n-th degree if you hear that name) has a revenue of $250,000 and he'd hire three employees for $50,000 each, his revenue would remain $250,000, but his income would be $100,000 minus other cost that are tax-deductible.

We pay income taxes based on income in this country (hence the name), not on revenue.  If Joe W. has an actual income of $250,000 then he is doing pretty well and most likely capable of paying an additional 3% taxes.

Maybe in the end it makes it tough for Joe W. to run his business, because he doesn't understand the difference between revenue and income?  If he really doesn't, this would be a very likely reason for entrepreneurial failure.  

Maybe the same lack of financial understanding would make it rather tough for McCain to run the country as well?


This occurred to me as well
He wants to buy a business that is worth 280k; that has nothing to do with the income, which is probably much lower, hence he will not have any tax increase.

oh, and...


any more than many of the other rights that we have should be subject to popular vote.

**coughcoughcough**

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BUSINESS "WORTH" is based solely on ASSET VALUE.

....and has nothing to do with the INCOME stream, and Expense stream used to figure the Income/Profit tax at the end of the year. We pay taxes on INCOME not on WORTH. If he is that ignorant about business I certainly wouldn't want to work for him!  Imagine him trying to estimate job costs! and add in a profit margin and calculate probable expense ratios!!!  HOOT.

Heck the man can't even register to vote??? and wants to talk to candidates??? why. 



It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


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GREAT AD!!!
Run it, run it, run it!!!!

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.


I don't understand...
McCain: Now, I know the criticism of this.

'Well, what about the citizen that stayed in their homes? That paid their mortgage payments?' It doesn't help that person in their home if the next door neighbor's house is abandoned. And so we've got to reverse this. We ought to put the homeowners first.

I may be missing something, but how is my neighbor staying in her house going to help me pay my mortgage?

I was very outraged that McCain just dismissed the issue of his supporters threatening to kill Obama. He was so flippant about it. Every day Palin reminds me more of Gaston from Beauty and the Beast, especially the scene where he whips the villagers into a frenzy to attack the Beast.

My partner kept asking me what was wrong with McCain's face. I kept expecting McCain to bust out a very Bush-esque "Gotcha! Heh heh, score one point for me. heh heh" (Naturally oblivious of the fact that he (McCain) missed the point entirely)


watashi no yomeiri wa doko desu ka


I think he was talking about home values
Which drop faster when there are foreclosures and abandoned properties. But if the government buys up the bad mortgages, let's the lender off for the original loan, and renegotiates it at the new lower value, they are still lowering property values in the neighborhood.

What Obama missed the opportunity to point out during that portion was that when FDR had a similar program, the government got a stake in the house, so the taxpayers got $$ back when the house was sold. McCain's proposal doesn't do that, it's basically a giveaway to the banking industry.  


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Temporary towers
"By the time Sen. John McCain's presidential bid was in full swing this summer, the ranch had wireless coverage from the two cellular companies most often used by campaign staff -- Verizon Wireless and AT&T."

These two companies put up "temporary" towers. Telling, isn't it?


Tell me it aint so, Joe
Joe the Plumber made it a point to go to an Obama gathering and succeeded in talking to him.

Joe the Plumber neglected to register, so he wont be able to vote. Hmm...


Not Bush?
MCCAIN: "Senator Obama, I am not President Bush. If you wanted to run against President Bush, you should have run four years ago."

OBAMA: "Well then, if you're such a maverick, why didn't you run against him yourself? You fully supported his proposals and policies instead."


JOE THE PUMBER IS CHARLES KEATING'S SON-IN LAW!!!!!
Women are WHACKING the air quotes around HEALTH of the mother
Being dismissive of a woman's health is REAL big mistake.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


loved this cartoon
   http://www.boston.com/bostongl...

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner


With honor
-- and those veterans that wear those hats that say "World War II, Vietnam, Korea, Iraq,"

Well, like McCain, I'm a Vietnam veteran, a combat pilot and a graduate of one of our nation's military academies. At the far end of the terrazzo at the Air Force Academy, engraved in the granite wall near the Arnold Hall cadet recreation center is the cadet code of honor: "I will not lie, cheat or steal or tolerate among us anyone who does."

Sad to say, Sen McCain has abandon the honor represented in this code, as he and his running mate have presented the most egregious lies, distortions and misrepresentation of his opponent in the presidential race, as if winning is more important to him than telling the truth.

This is disrespect for his fellow academy graduates like me, and others who fraught in the wars he mentions and have lived honorable lives on return when these wars were done.

He ought to be ashamed of himself.


MSNBC is on it
Very funny:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27...

Joe Dumbass has:
- no plumbing license (which might cause some trouble with the state of OH - they are looking into it)
- most likely not the money to buy his boss' business - he makes $40k a year
- no plumbing business worth $250k to buy - his boss' business made a total yearly revenue of $100,000
- finally nothing to fear tax-wise, since he doesn't have a high income

But again: people beware - don't do business with Joe - he doesn't seem to have the financial part of it under control.


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