8 Against 8 launches to fight Prop 8

BRAVA for this promotion

Your generosity of giving your advertising space for this cause is very supportive of OUR community. We may not live in CA, but it is a big chunk of our people, when they have a break through victory, we ALL WIN.

I hope a HUGE push is put on get out the vorte in CA, with the race for president almost surely decided when VA is announced, many CA voters might be tempted to stay home. The Repigs should be the MOST demoralized when mcLoser goes down in flames, giving NO on Prop 8 a virtual boost.

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 08:54:34 AM CDT

Good point petey.....

Course they limit election coverage here until the polls close. And I believe over 25% of Californians now vote absentee. That could go either way. 

Thanks Pam and Mike for the help. ..... It's frustrating to need so much, but we do.

I have to agree with whoever said it, but the NO on 8 ADS are AWFUL!!! There must be some gay geeks who could have done a better job.  Ah well. I still hope for some celebrity support. 

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:36:11 AM CDT

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And don't forget efforts in Florida and Arizona

And don't forget these efforts in Florida and Arizona:

 

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 09:13:45 AM CDT

So Pam, Here's what JH had to say....about your Feminine Wiles!

8 out lesbloggers work to out 8
Lesbiatopia ?Grace The Spot ?Hahn At Home ?The Lesbian Lifestyle ?Dorothy Surrenders ?Pam's House Blend ?Sugarbutch Chronicles ?This Girl Called Automatic Win

The above eight blogs all have a few things in common. For one, they are all lesbian-themed sites. For another, none of them have fewer than three syllables in their brand names. Oh, and by virtue of their common roles as media-aware Sapphic sisters putting out a creative product in the first decade of the 21st century, they all are required by lesbi-law to have a love/hate relationship with "The L Word." So yea, similarities abound.

But while common threads are not hard to come by (hard. come. teehee), these eight bloggy power dykes are now teaming up for a cause even more near and dear to their gal-loving hearts. Namely, they are joining forces to defeat Proposition 8, that nasty, cruel, un-American initiative that's currently tarnishing California with its brazen desire to use tyrannical majority rule to rob a minority suspect class of their constitutional right to equality. And since, conveniently, there are eight of them, the Sapphic sites have snatched (uhm..no, not gonna touch that one) up the name "8 Against 8," using that shared identity to pool donations in opposition of the gross marriage ban.
Check out their handiwork/ MAKE A DONATION at the link:
www.8against8.com

So very G-A-Y!!!!

It's the Hammer of JUSTICE,
It's the Bell of FREEDOM,
It's the Song about LOVE between,
my Brothers and my Sisters
...All over this Land.

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by: Orion45 @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 10:15:40 AM CDT

lots of strategy go to around

I know you're a Californian, Orion45, so I don't want to presume you haven't seen more of the No on 8 material.  And I don't know what other commentary you've given here on the subject.

But for others, I do want to make clear that No on 8 is busting its organizational ass.  I know, because I work with these ass-busters.  There are phone banks up and down the state (click to see lists here, in case any Californians are interested), and house parties are proliferating up and down the state, too, at which consciousness and GOTV work is being done (in addition to the fundraising).  No on 8 speakers and rabble rousers are basically booked round-the-clock doing old fashioned face-to-face organizing.

The Take Action page at No on 8 directs people to every conceivable action.  Or at least, dozens.

The thing is, those 11% undecided folk are hugely influenced by the ads they're seeing.  And as you know, between the Mormon Church & the Knights of Columbus (and the 59,998 other donors), they've got enough $$ to buy 24hrs/day worth of time to spread the lies.  So as limited as it seems, and certainly as regrettable, in this case the money buys the ad time which gets to those folks.

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by: Polly @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 12:39:12 PM CDT

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OOOPS.

So this is a reply, erm, to Patrick's comment, below.

Fortunately, he's also a Californian, so if we neatly switch "Patrick" for where I put "Orion45," everything else works.

1,000 apologies.  Prop 8 is making me not just crazy, but also unable to read web pages clearly.

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by: Polly @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 12:41:56 PM CDT

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Thanks Pam

Well I now know that Sugar Butch along with Kenethinthe212 are both blocked by WarnerBros bec content "may be inappropriate for the workplace"....What boys in underwear?  Never see women in underwear do we?  

Will contribute again and thanks for pointing me towards these blogs and websites.  

Too bad money seems to be the primary strategy to defeat this travesty called Prop 8....shouldn't there be upraisings and outrage....besides my own that is.  

Ck out Patrick's diary at http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...

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by: Karen in Kalifornia @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 11:52:38 AM CDT

Check out my diary about Salinas

I went to a counter demonstration of a huge Yes on Prop. 8 rally in Salinas yesterday:

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/...

If the Yes on Prop. 8 folks are getting this kind of support across the state, it could win by a fair margin.

So, I'm going to be doing everything I can to make a diference.  

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.

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by: Fritz @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 12:25:47 PM CDT

I'm front paging your diary

It will go up this evening.

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by: Pam Spaulding @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 14:52:03 PM CDT

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Thanks, I just wrote the following letter to my local paper

Editor, Monterey County Herald,

Yesterday, I attended a counter demonstration for a "traditional family values" parade in Salinas. While I would like to write about the importance of voting "no" on Prop. 8, what I witnessed in Salinas involves a more important issue.

As I stood watching the parade, I noticed several young people who were marching in it making gang signs with their hands. I was shocked that a parade supposedly about traditional family values would allow participants to openly display their involvement with criminal street gangs. Gangs may be a Salinas tradition, but they are not what I consider to be a family value.

Why is it that church groups in Salinas have spent so much time and money to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry while ignoring the real threat to Salinas families? Gangs kill people. They corrupt children.

It appears that gangs are so entrenched in Salinas that they can't even be excluded from what is supposed to be a family values parade. I have to admit that I was frightened by what I saw. Salinas is a dangerous place with gangs so emboldened they flash their hand signs from within a public parade.

I urge all citizens of Salinas to donate to anti-gang programs rather than the Yes on 8 campaign. Put your money where it is most needed.

Fritz Liess
Monterey, CA

Note to Editor: Here is a link to a photo of a young man "throwing up" or "stacking" gang signs from the parade:

http://flickr.com/photos/fritz...

I witnessed this at least ten times during the parade. So did several others.  

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.

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by: Fritz @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 15:08:13 PM CDT

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THANK YOU SISTER

The political ramifications of this vote couldn't be more far-reaching.  As a California lesbian,  with two kids I didn't give birth to, the legal and fiscal security my family gets with bona fide marriage is phenomenally close to my heart.  Maybe more like my gut.  

But there's also no question in anyone's minds -- thanks in part to your coverage on the issue -- how this will set the pace/direction for LGBT civil rights work to follow, nationally.  Your home state would be in line, not too far in the distant future, for marriage.  If Prop 8 is defeated.  Which it can be, if and only if we galvanize ourselves and others.  

If Prop 8 passes, what I find nearly as chilling as the setback to LGBT rights work is that the Christian Right will surely look at other extant rights to roll back by propositional fiat.  Think of it.   I'm guessing women's reproductive freedoms would be next in their sights, frankly.  

Last thing: an appallingly small # of individual donors have supported this campaign so far (more, for certain, in recent weeks, after the $10 million fundraising discrepancy became clear).  Yes on 8, as I know you've reported here, pulled in 60,000 individual donations, at last count, to No n 8's 30,000.  

Thank you for urging your readers, wherever they live, to be among those who step up.  

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by: Polly @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 12:27:19 PM CDT

Immigration rights next

If Prop. 8 passes, the next amendment to California's constitution will be about limiting the rights of immigrant workers.

- No government services
- No private services from churches or other charties
- No hospital care
- Mandatory reporting of illegal immigrants

With the huge numbers of hispanics voting yes on Prop. 8, I don't know why this isn't being advertised.

The message should be "Who is next? Immigrant workers!"

When you look for the bad in mankind, expecting to find it, you surely will.

- Abraham Lincoln.

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by: Fritz @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 12:41:40 PM CDT

Couldn't agree more

Have I seen you make this insight elsewhere?  I think maybe at Kos?  But I am in total agreement.  The Christian Right steamroller is just now tanking up right now.  

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by: Polly @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 12:43:49 PM CDT

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I think a funny ad would serve two purposes

Equal Marriage and Dumping closet case Miss David Dreier out of office.

Open the commercial with "POLITICIANS in CA deserve equal marriage rights"....then show David Dreier's photo and have his "Chief of Staff's salary highlighted as the HIGHEST PAID Congressional "aide"

Let the audience connect the dots.


"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 13:20:59 PM CDT

speaking of closet cases

Charlie Crist has decided NOT to spend FL state funds for McCain's campaign, they are holding a reserve for the NEXT election.....ouch
VA is also bailing out on McLOSER....hehehehe

"race, taste. and History finally overcome....and you ain't there"
by Tony Kushner

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by: peteyPornpig @ Mon Oct 20, 2008 at 13:27:20 PM CDT