Racism hits home - literally!

no words

Damn.

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 12:49:28 PM CDT

ENOUGH!

I've been using my talents today and I"M P*SSED

here's my Limbaugh image
  http://img.villagephotos.com/p...

I'm now going for the McCain PA communication directors face

What have you done today, to make ya feel PROUD?


~Heather Small

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by: peteyPornpig @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 13:52:29 PM CDT

it hits close to home

When it's other gays venting this racist cr*p.
Two of my friends in NOLA are a racially mixed couple, fortunately one is a wealthy lawyer and his lover has become a designer, they have the money to avoid most of this garbage, and they both won body building medals at the Gay Games in Canada,,,so physically they are IMPOSING.
The lawyer before I met him, had been brutally GAY BASHED and had to have his face almost completely restored with a few plastic surgeries.
They still get some this cr*p.

What have you done today, to make ya feel PROUD?


~Heather Small

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by: peteyPornpig @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:03:04 PM CDT

gay AND racist?

is it really that naive of me to have thought that gays (of the non self-hating variety) are, by default, pretty darned tolerant when it comes to race or religion and stuff?

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by: ol cranky @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:09:57 PM CDT

Sorry, but yeah

Racism comes from people of all sexual orientations.  I've witness more gay, bisexual, and transgender racists than anything else, so hearing this story is no surprise on my part.  

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by: jaleo23 @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:20:58 PM CDT

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Good or bad

People really are people...gender and identity don't change that.

For the most part, the LGBTQ folks I have known have been pretty terrific folks. But not all- I had one neighbor who was the rudest, snottiest person imagineable. And he delighted in being that way; I always felt he was almost taunting us (the young newly married couple next door) to say something so he could pounce and was pissed to high heaven that we didn't! It really confused me at the time; now I understand his hostility and where it came from.

His husband, btw, was an absolute doll and a terrific neighbor.

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:26:14 PM CDT

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I'll bring the pincones, Louise!!!!

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by: GraciesDaddy @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 15:57:35 PM CDT

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Yes, I'm afraid it is naive

Just try bringing a black friend to any gay bar in Pittsburgh and see what happens.

One of the reasons I broke up with my ex was the bitter, sometimes almost vitriolic fights we used to have about his cheerful, frequent use of the N word.  And he is not at all atypical.  If it's like that in Pittsburgh, just imagine conditions in Indiana, say, or Missouri, much less the Deep South.

The real genius of the people who own this country is the way they keep us fighting against each other (by "us" I mean the people) instead of banding together to fight them.  

If that gay community and the black community could learn to work together, we could wield enormous power and influence in this country.  But it won't happen.  There's too much racism in the gay community and too much homophobia in the black community.  This country is an unfolding, ongoing tragedy.

I am not interested in picking up crumbs of compassion thrown from the table of someone who considers himself my master. I want the full menu of rights.  -Archbishop Desmond Tutu

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by: QScribe @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:28:11 PM CDT

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Not surprising

You'd expect a little tolerance, but everyone has some sort of prejudice. I love New York City folks, but if a Staten Islander were to run for president, I would question their qualifications...

...Ready to Go!!

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by: Fired Up @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:41:14 PM CDT

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I understand everyone has their predjudice

it's just how they act on them that makes the difference.  I have my own and I'll be the first to admit it. . .when a less than appropriate thought pops in my head I just try to bat it right out.  In saying this, I'm not saying I show no signs of whatever my dormant (at least I hope they're dormant) prejudices are. There are other things that I've just come to realize make everything worse when people focus on a word or phrase offered with no intent to offend and yet, when folks go looking for it lo and behold, they're offended.  I've commented as such here when I think we give the haters exactly what they want - I'm sure that offends the hell out of some people and makes others think I'm a troll.  I just think it's extra sad when someone who is or has been oppressed pretty much becomes an oppressor themselves.

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by: ol cranky @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 17:02:27 PM CDT

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Yup

for the rest of my life, I WILL HATE THE BANGOR RAMS!!! Go, Brewer Witches!!!

That said, I cannot imagine ever committing an act of vandalism or being verbally abusive. And if someone from Bangor had a flat tire out in the rain... I would carefully swerve away as not to splash them. Much.

Maybe a little, though. ;)

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 19:37:54 PM CDT

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Yep

Very naive, cranky.

Some gay men in South Carolina made it a point to tell me that they won't get involved in our pride center simply because I am board member there. Me, the only African-American board member, I should point out.

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by: Alvin McEwen @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 15:34:41 PM CDT

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Racism

Racism is a big problem in the British gay community, often in reaction to the religious homophobia common in most ethnic minorities. There need not necessarily be any underlying racism at first - the initial problem is often fear, but that can become racism with time.

Within the scene itself, LGBT south Asians in particular tend to be shunned because of the risks associated with having one as a partner: Sharia law still holds sway over a lot of Pakistani and Bangladeshi families, and honour-killings do happen here occasionally.

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Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.

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by: tavdy79 @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 15:37:16 PM CDT

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Unfortunately, it's far too common.

While queer people are counted among the most committed advocates of civil rights and racial harmony, some of the most appalling racists I've ever had the displeasure of meeting have been gay. Consider the late Austrian ultranationalist politician Jorg Haider -- a racist, xenophobic, Nazi-lover who was revealed as a big ol' closet case after his recent death. Actually, I've been hoping for a Blend post on this story.  

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by: johnbinpt @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:20:21 PM CDT

Me too

It's big news over here.

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by: Brian @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:42:20 PM CDT

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Haider wasn't the only one.

Pim Fortuyn, The openly-gay Dutch politician who was assassinated several years ago, was known for his racist and (in particular) Islamophobic views.

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Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.

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by: tavdy79 @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 16:01:43 PM CDT

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Tony began repeating some of the racist propaganda

What did Tony say?

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by: Brian @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 14:41:19 PM CDT

I was very upset back in the 90's...

...when the leader of the Martin Luther King Citywide Celebration in Anchorage, Alaska (Reverend Patterson) passionately spoke against any kind of equal rights for gays and lesbians.  There was an Ordinance before the Anchorage Assembly to protect gays from discrimination within the ranks of municipal employees regarding hirings and firings.

That was when the books by Anne Wilson Schaef made sense...she talked about how some people in "minority" cultures warred with other minority cultures as well as within their own because it was easier than confronting the "dominant" culture.    

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by: CelticDiva @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 15:16:40 PM CDT

That explains a lot, Linda.

The upshot of this is that WHEN we get our rights -- to marry, serve in the military, to WORK [ENDA] -- that we continue to realize that, while it may be fun, Payback is not always a good thing.

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by: GraciesDaddy @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 16:08:19 PM CDT

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Wow Fritz

that sucks. Isn't your man afraid it will happen again? I'm with you...I'd want them to go away. Men are too brutal. Now...if they were girls fighting...that may be popcorn time!--just kiddin' :)

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by: juicyjuice @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 16:08:26 PM CDT

My reaction

probably would have been directed more at Tony than at Mike -- I don't approve of racist work environments, especially when they're also my home.

I'm also not quite sure I'd have the same objection to "fraternizing with the help"...or is that just me?

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by: M @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 16:17:40 PM CDT

Drinking and Shooting the Breeze

I'm surprised nobody picked up on the alcohol in this story. That's the key. Drinking makes people act like assholes.

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by: myroro @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 16:24:31 PM CDT

Does It Ever!

I used to work as a police dispatcher and I can guarantee that in at least 90-95 percent of the fight and domestic dispute calls, alcohol was involved in the mix.

People do and say things they'd never dream of saying sober (most of the time).  However, it's a good stimulus to bring hidden feelings to the surface.  

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by: Jon Michaels @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 20:26:49 PM CDT

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I'm of an age where racist crap is stuck in my head, that will NEVER leave

As a toddler I was read Little Black Sambo by my mother.
My grandmother sewed a Mammy Doll toaster cover doll from a pattern in the newspaper
Learned the eany meany minney mo, and people even making racist crap about pennies.
I recall the common use of racist epitaths of WHITE FAGS using rice-queen, and dinge-queen, these terms even made their way into a book called the QUEEN'S ENGLISH.

I HATE I know this crap, and I'll ALWAYS know this crap.

What have you done today, to make ya feel PROUD?


~Heather Small

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by: peteyPornpig @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 16:32:37 PM CDT

Had a paperback "LBS" as a small child

that went along with a little .78 record- there was a pocket in the front of the book for the record to go for storage. I can still hear the song where he sings about being "dressed in the prettiest clothes".

What alcoholic drink removes these brain cells? Does anyone know?

"It goes on one at a time, it starts when you care to act, it starts when you do it again after they said no, it starts when you say We and know who you mean, and each day you mean one more."

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by: Louise @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 19:44:33 PM CDT

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boyfriend?

what are you trying to say?

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by: dards4444 @ Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 19:40:56 PM CDT