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Meanwhile, 5 Years Later In Massachusetts...

by: Louise

Mon Nov 17, 2008 at 07:05:12 AM EST


...the world has not come crashing to an end, men are not marrying their dogs, and heterosexual marriages haven't been changed one whit.

Funny how that worked out, huh?

When the Supreme Judicial Court handed down its landmark decision five years ago tomorrow allowing same-sex couples to wed in Massachusetts, opponents warned that traditional marriage would be endangered, while supporters envisioned an equality movement that would spread across the nation.

Over 11,000 same-sex marriages later, neither has happened.

More below...

Louise :: Meanwhile, 5 Years Later In Massachusetts...
OMG!!! But... but... what happened? Where is the fire and brimstone, the mass panic, and for the love of Gawd won't SOMEONE think of teh childrun???

Guess all the panic, squealing and hand-wringing was all for naught.

Massachusetts has yet to become, as former governor Mitt Romney predicted, the "Las Vegas of same-sex marriage." Gay marriage rates leveled off at about 1,500 a year - about 4 percent of all state marriages - in 2006 and 2007. The divorce rate in Massachusetts has remained the same - and the lowest in the country.

And only one other state now allows same-sex marriage; 30 states have a ban against it.

Wait a minute- the LOWEST divorce rate?? How can that be?? Weren't we all promised that heterosexual marriages would be toast if gay marriage was allowed? I'm so confused...

So what IS DIFFERENT, then?

What's really changed is more subtle than cosmic, more about the everyday lives of gay couples in Massachusetts than about a national transformation. Gay and lesbian couples here said they are attracting fewer startled looks when they rent cars, less consternation when they hold hands, fewer awkward questions when they visit spouses in hospital rooms.

"When we're out together as a couple, it really doesn't come up; we're never challenged anymore," said David Wilson, one of the plaintiffs in the 2003 SJC case and the current chairman of MassEquality, a gay-rights advocacy group. "It's now considered normal."

Maureen Brodoff and Ellen Wade, who were among the first gay and lesbian couples to wed here, have noticed the decrease in embarrassed double takes when they introduce themselves as wife and wife.

"The sky didn't fall," Brodoff said Wednesday, as she and Wade sat with their English setters Diana and Joey in the living room of their tidy Colonial in Newton Centre. "The newness of it has eased. It's just another marriage."

But...but...

Groups that oppose gay marriage say the state is trying to force people to accept behavior they believe is unnatural and unacceptable. But there are signs that the number of people opposed to same-sex marriage is waning in Massachusetts. In February 2004, a survey of 400 voters found that 42 percent were in favor of same-sex marriage and 44 percent opposed it. In a similar survey completed this August, approval sprang to 59 percent and opposition sank to 37 percent, said David Paleologos, director of the Suffolk University Political Research Center, which conducted the polls.

Representative Paul J. Kujawski, a Democrat who represents a district in southern Worcester County, also changed his vote. "I looked at it from a standpoint of my personal life and my family and it didn't affect me at all," he said. "It really became an issue where we would be taking happiness away from people's lives."

"HAPPINESS?" Where is it written in our Constitution that Americans have a right to THAT?

Let's see if the MA legislature will "nip this in the bud"...

Gay marriage opponents had vowed to elect a Legislature that supported their agenda. On Election Day, the opposite took place. Out of its 200 members, the Legislature now has 158 lawmakers who Marc Solomon, executive director of MassEquality, believes support his cause, an increase of three legislators.

Where is the resistance? SHOW ME THE RESISTAAAAANCE!

Brian Camenker of the group MassResistance, which opposes gay marriage, said he believes that most people cannot accept the idea of gays and lesbians as a group whose rights need special protection.

"The concept is so ridiculous and absurd," he said.

Camenker contends that gay marriage will never take root in the United States, where, he said, "in most people's minds, the concept of gay marriage doesn't exist and never will exist."

Well, THERE.

Um... but where's the disaster, Brian? Not one example of how heterosexual lives have been sullied or ruined over the past 5 years? Makes me wonder- maybe you are WRONG about this?

Off to volunteer for EqualityMaine... have a great day, everyone!

 

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Iowa ...
is next.

And we actually we lead the nation in marriages and
in the least number of divorces.

so the gays really aren't threatening hetero marriages after all

:-)


But I thought...
Hmm, funny.  I could have sworn that after Connecticut, God was just going to break New England off of the US and sink it in the Atlantic.

Oh, wait.  That's California and the Pacific.

I do find something a little strange, though.  People are ALWAYS talking about Massachusetts when they talk about gay marriage (not counting all of this CA H8 stuff), but I rarely here anyone mention Connecticut.  If we're going to be hating on marriage equality, shouldn't we be hating all marriage equality equally (pun!)?  Connecticut seems to slip under the radar much of the time; I guess the knowledge of Mass. same-sex marriage is just better known.

Play in the rain. Dance in the sun.


[ Parent ]
Well...
Marriage equality has been in Connecticut for five days and in Massachusetts for five years (although really four-and-a-half years since they hit the pause button for 180 days...), so there are legitimate reasons to always talk about Massachusetts: (a) there is more to talk about and (b) until relatively recently it was the only show in town.

That said, let's say it again: Yippee for Connecticut!


[ Parent ]
True enough.
Well, yes, I acknowledge that.  But I still find it a little strange.  People often jump at something new that they disagree with to draw attention to it to head it off; something like "Don't let Connecticut continue the same was as Massachusetts!"  There's also the possibility that because Connecticut is in New England (as opposed to the West Coast), same-sex marriage there doesn't have quite as much shock value.  It's almost like "Oh, Connecticut and gay marriage; well, Massachusetts already has that."  Guilty by association (or proximity, I guess) in something akin to normalization.

But that's probably just wishful thinking.

Play in the rain. Dance in the sun.


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Quite.
Connecticut is Massachusetts Lite.

"More than half of modern culture depends on what one shouldn't read." -- Oscar Wilde, The Importance of Being Earnest

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Just happened
During all of the ugly, ugly Prop 8 ads (I'm not from Calif, but was out there the week before the election), marriage still wasn't legal in Conn. yet, and so it couldn't really be used as a "test case".

Also, I suspect a lot of folks don't even know about CT....it made a much smaller splash in the media, perhaps due to the continued focus on Prop 8, or perhaps because it's not the first state, whatever.

Anyway, congratulations to Connecticut!


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Never Say Never Brian!
Camenker contends that gay marriage will never take root in the United States, where, he said, 'in most people's minds, the concept of gay marriage doesn't exist and never will exist.'

It may take a while, maybe decades or even a century for it to be nationwide.  But, it will come.  

Some people only accept change kicking and screaming and after the change has been in effect for awhile, like in Mass, they can't figure out what the fuss was all about.


Actually, there HAS BEEN a downside to "gay" marriage in MA.
In the spring and summer, there is occasionally a wait in the Public Garden here in Boston to have your wedding photos taken at the more scenic spots, what with all those gay and lesbian couples getting married and all.

As an aside, the most touching wedding photo I have ever witnessed was on the other side of the Boston Common.

Two black women, in their wedding finery, in front of the Robert Gould Shaw/Mass 54th memorial across from the State House and very near the church where abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison spoke out against slavery.


Sigh... I wouldn't put it beyond the marriage foes...
to use that as an argument.   After the uproar of PartyA&B in Calif, I wouldn't be surprised to hear... "see!?? we told you!!!  Now heterosexuals have to WAIT to get a photo session... their rights have been impinged!

[ Parent ]
On 7/7/07
My 12 year old daughter and her dad were walking through Boston Common (her first trip there); she later called me to tell me about how beautiful, joyful and happy some of the pairs of brides were!

She still gets choked up talking about it- a very moving experience for her that she'll never forget.

I think I remember hearing that there were about 300 couples who got married in the Common that day!



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California will be next again,
  That is my gut feeling anyway.  Any other ruling would have to mean that marriage is not a civil right. If marriage is not a civil right, than all rights that come with marriage will have to go away.  Every US Citizen has the right to be treated Equally under the law.

 But besides California, I would say Iowa.  Their state constitution is written insimiliar language as California's Constitution.

If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


I just wanted to add...
When I was born, my parents were told I'd be hurt in school -- the other kids would be mean to me.

When I was born, I was told I'd never amount to anything, ever.

when I was five, I was told nobody will ever accept a freak like me, white and black and god knows what other heathen crap.

when I was nine, I was told that it wasn't that bad.

When I was 15, I was recognized for being different in a good way.  I blended races in a an environment where I was the dark one (go figure).

When I was in my 30's I married a hispanic and had my son.

Never isn't forever.  Its only for the time it takes to live a life.

http://www.dyssonance.com  Breaking all the rules...


Illinois....
Arguably the bluest state in the country that has NOTHING!  We've had a Democratic governor and Democratic-controlled legislature for years now, and we don't even have civil unions!  It's beyond pathetic.

Not That Blue
I lived in Illinois for 10 years and I can say that Illinois, outside of Chicago, is mostly RED.  I lived about 25 miles west of you, out in cornfield country.  Illinois may be liberal compared to some of it's neighbors, but it's conservative compared to New England (born & raised here, moved back 6 years ago).

[ Parent ]
Actually,
it's changed a LOT since you lived here.  Sounds like you lived in Kane or Kendall County.  That was Dennis Hastert country, where Democrat Bill Foster won the special election when Hastert "retired", and was just relected to that seat that was previously one of the most reliable Republican seats in the COUNTRY.

I'm in DuPage County, another longtime Republican stronghold.  It went overwhelmingly Democratic in the last two elections.

Yes, downstate is still red, but as a whole Illinois is BLUE.


[ Parent ]
DeKalb County
Well actually our subdivision was in the northeast corner of LaSalle county, but just outside Sandwich (DeKalb county).  I remember seeing "Denny" Hastert in the parades on the 4th of July.  GLAD to hear things are changing, the collar counties used to be solid red.

Go Blue!


[ Parent ]
New Jersey
I'm surprised New Jersey has so few votes.  They already have civil unions, Garden State Equality is VERY organized and Corzine has already said he'd sign a marriage equality bill in 2009.

I hope NY will be next
But I think you're right, Jersey is very likely to beat the supposedly liberal "bluest of the blue" state of NY.

I also think the Supremes are going to reverse Prop 8 in CA, and that will be a mess, but hopefully end the question there as well.

M


[ Parent ]
view from city hall plaza
I went to the rally at City Hall Plaza last Saturday. I have been to a lot of marriage equality rallies throughout the process of gaining and defending marriage rights here in MA for the last few years. This one was fabulous. There were so many people. So  many young people, it really gave me hope. The mood was elated and positive. Yes, there was lots of anger against the bigots in CA and against the religious conservatives who targeted our rights, but it was a very positive mood in general.
There may have been in excess of four thousand people in attendance. There were also a dozen  counter protesters from Mass Resistance. They still had their "Let the People Vote" signs, which seemed a bit off point. There were some of us who were arguing with John Russo, who leads the anti-gay marriage cause here in MA. Well, being the big mouth that I am, I just couldn't resist getting involved. I asked him what effect four and a half years of gay marriage had on his own marriage. He started to tell me about his children having to learn about anal sex in school. I asked him what school his kids attended!!!! He confessed they were aged 45 and 30. Mr. Russo, did, after all have white hair. I asked him about his own marriage again and again, and I never got an answer. I suspect nobody has ever gotten an answer to that question.
And in response to Brian Camenker, who thinks that gay people aren't subjected to discrimination, I would love to see him put on a gay pride tee shirt, and walk through his local mall holding hands with another man on a busy Saturday afternoon.  

You know Mitt was just steaming that he couldn't have more wives
and, actually, if we're talking competent adults who freely enter into such a relationship (unlike some of the FLDS folks), it wouldn't bother me at all.

If straights get to have sole proprietorships and partnerships, they ought to be able to form partnerships with more than two partners. And gay and Lesbian people should have access to more than just sole proprietorships too. This is about legal constructs of households - and the legal term is marriage.

Religious organizations have refused to recognize marriage for centuries. If you weren't married in the Catholic church, the church says you're not married. Some protestant churches still refuse to recognize marriages between people of different races. Many churches refuse to recognize interfaith marriages.

This is not about forcing churches to accept marriage equality (that's a job for members of the church). This is about the governments of the United States of America, states, counties and parishes, townships, cities, villages, and towns, etc. recognizing families without using a religious definition.

And Mitt, I don't care if you have another wife or three. Get Ann to sign off on it first.




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Frankly
The argument "the sky hasn't fallen since Marriage Equality started in Mass" is a lame argument.

Since Marriage Equality started more families are stronger and protected. All couples are equal in the eyes of the law.  that is the argument.  Same sex couples getting married has only strengthened the opposite sex couples marriages.  Many of them had taken the marriage for granted and it has shown them how important a "silly" thing like taking vows in front of a witness(es) means.


New York or New Jersey
Whichever one is next, I say the other will follow within two years.

I am the lizard queen!

MA continues to be...
...the strongest argument to undercut the unfounded claims of our opponents.  They are horrified at the way life goes on normally.  And yet they STILL found a way to use Massachusetts against gay marriage in California, by claiming that parents would have no control in their children being taught about it ("You think it won't happen--it's already happened!").  Now that the the country is politically bluer in general, maybe gay marriage in MA will be seen for the positive example that it is rather than (as it was under the Republicans) a fringe practice in a not-quite-American state.  And over time, I hope CT provides a similar example and more support for the case of marriage equality.

I hate to be flippant...
but where is New Hampster?  Is the capital in the city of Gerbil?  Is it coloquially referred to as the rodent state?  Anyways, in all seriousness, liberty in this country always comes from Massachusetts, which may or may not border New Hampster.

Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes


Me being silly
Had cousins in New Hampshire; it's been a running joke in my family and honestly, I think I gotta cure THAT one! ;)

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[ Parent ]
Ha
My family has inside jokes, too.  Unfortunately they usually revolve around alcohol and less than appropriate amounts of clothing.  Keep up the good fight in Maine :)

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[ Parent ]
See my new diary! :)
Hey, we fought the first revolution here in New England; we can do it again with words and laws instead of muskets!

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