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(from "Six Years In Sodom: From The Journal Of James Hartline," 9/4/2006, written from the "homosexual stronghold" of Hillcrest in San Diego).

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"A nutty lesbian blogger."
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GLAAD/Harris post-election survey: Americans favor adoption and partner rights for same-sex couples

by: Pam Spaulding

Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 09:30:00 AM EST


And they support inclusive hate crimes laws and the ability of gays and lesbians to openly serve in the military. The voters in California, Florida and Arkansas clearly aren't on the same page as most Americans when it comes to extending rights to gay couples.

A national survey conducted in November, "The Pulse of Equality" by Harris Interactive that was commissioned by the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) is out today. The survey is the first national snapshot after election day to poll U.S. adults' overall attitudes towards LGBTs on several key issues. Among its findings:

   *  Three-quarters of U.S. adults (75%) favor either marriage or domestic partnerships/civil unions for gay and lesbian couples.  Only about two in 10 (22%) say gay and lesbian couples should have no legal recognition. (Gay and lesbian couples are able to marry in two states, and comprehensive civil union or domestic partnership laws exist in only five others and the District of Columbia.)

   * U.S. adults are now about evenly divided on whether they support allowing gay and lesbian couples to legally marry (47% favor to 49% oppose).

   * Almost two-thirds (64%) of U.S. adults favor allowing openly gay military personnel to serve in the armed forces. (The current "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" law bans military service by openly gay personnel.)

   * About six in 10 (63%) U.S. adults favor expanding hate crime laws to cover gay and transgender people. (Hate crimes laws cover gay and transgender people in 11 states and the District of Columbia, and an additional - 20 states' laws cover sexual orientation but not gender identity.)

   * A slight majority of U.S. adults (51%) favor protecting gay and transgender people under existing laws that prohibit discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodations. (Existing non-discrimination laws cover gay and transgender people in only 12 states and the District of Columbia, and eight other states' laws cover sexual orientation but not gender identity.)

   * Nearly seven out of 10 U.S. adults (69%) oppose laws that would ban qualified gay and lesbian couples from adopting children. (In several states, gay and lesbian couples are banned from adopting.)

Here are the full results PDF. As usual, one of the usual fundie suspects was quick to comment.
Mathew Staver, founder of the Liberty Counsel, an Orlando-based conservative organization, said the survey was flawed because it was commissioned by a homosexual advocacy group and "is flat wrong on same-sex marriage."
To show how opinions have evolved so quickly on this issue, the Sun-Sentinel compared the 2008 findings to a February 2005 CBS/New York Times poll:

* only 23 percent of those surveyed said gays should be allowed to marry;
* 41 percent said there should be no legal recognition of any kind for gay couples.

GLAAD's statement is below the fold.

Pam Spaulding :: GLAAD/Harris post-election survey: Americans favor adoption and partner rights for same-sex couples
GLAAD:
"In the Pulse of Equality survey, we observed a positive relationship between knowing a gay or transgender person and one's attitudes toward them and the policy issues that affect their lives," said Laura Light, Vice President of Public Relations Research for Harris Interactive. "Based on other surveys we have conducted on attitudes toward LGBT people and issues, the results of this survey suggest that public sentiment in the U.S. is trending toward greater acceptance of gay- and transgender-related policy issues."

Across the LGBT-related policy proposals, there were statistically significant differences in support with respect to age, gender, race/ethnicity and religion.  People under 65, and especially those 18-34, were more supportive than people over 65.  Women were generally more supportive than men, with women age 18-34 often being more supportive than other segments.  Hispanics were more supportive than Whites and African-Americans in showing strong support for allowing openly gay military personnel to serve in the armed forces. African Americans were more strongly supportive than Whites and Hispanics of expanding existing hate crimes laws to cover gay and transgender people. Mainline Christians (a category that includes, among other denominations, Lutherans, Methodists, Presbyterians and Episcopalians) and Catholics were more supportive than Evangelical Christians, and Mainline Christians were often among the more supportive segments on a variety of issues.

The survey also revealed that there has been greater acceptance of gay and lesbian Americans over the last five years.  Approximately two in 10 Americans (19%) reported that their feelings toward gay and lesbian people have become more favorable over the past five years, with contributing factors including:  knowing someone who is gay or lesbian (79%), the fact that laws have been passed that protect gay and lesbian people (50%), opinions of family or friends (45%) and religious leaders (21%), news coverage of gay and lesbian issues (41%), and seeing gay or lesbian characters on television (34%) and in movies (29%).   Nearly three out of four Americans (73%) personally know or work with a gay or transgender person, and half of those who know or work with someone who is gay or transgender know five or more gay or transgender people.

"The visibility of the past several years, and the intense conversations of the past few weeks, seem to have galvanized a majority of Americans' support of equality for gay and transgender Americans," said GLAAD President Neil G. Giuliano.  "While this expression of support is encouraging, particularly after the setbacks we experienced on Election Day, it's not something we can rest on. There is a lot of work to be done.  We must all do what we can to sustain and expand this emerging wave of grassroots activism so that it leads to laws and policies that extend full equality under the law to all Americans - lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and straight."

Giuliano suggested that one of the crucial issues facing LGBT people is that many Americans aren't aware of the injustices that they face.

"Majorities of Americans clearly favor equality for gay and transgender people," Giuliano added, "but we've seen that too many still mistakenly believe that the intolerance and injustices we face are things of the past.  So it's more vital than ever that we tell our stories, illustrate the injustices we face, and remind people of the common ground we share."

FYI, about the Harris survey:
The total sample includes 2,008 U.S. adults ages 18+, surveyed from November 13 to November 17, 2008. Interviewing was conducted by telephone using random digit dialing (RDD). Results were weighted as needed using age, sex, race/ethnicity, education, region, number in household, and household income to be representative of the U.S. population of adults age 18 and over.
Fundies, you are losing the culture war. I hope the Dominionists shoot their entire wad trying to pass amendments. They are all going to go down one day.
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So... when an advocacy group (such as Liberty Counsel) commissions a poll, it is inherently flawed as a result?
Oh, my, I am so looking forward to quoting this man when the American Family Association or the Family Research Council publishes poll results.

(Insert evil cackle here.)

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même merde.


Staver really stepped into a pile on that one
So the commissioning group just makes sh*t up for the polling org, is that what he's saying? Why bother with the survey and spending all those buxxx? Good grief.

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Ok, what the hell?
Do fundies try to choose the most disingenuous words possible or does it just happen?

"Let's see, we oppose rights for gays in all forms, think women should be barefoot and pregnant, and want to end affirmative action. Why don't we call ourselves something like 'The Institute for Family Policy?'"


But "barefoot and pregnant" and "smear the queers" ARE family policies!
Policies that I strongly oppose because they are sexist, bigoted and just plain evil, but policies nonetheless.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même merde.

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The results of the elections were on Nov. 5, 2008
  A survey 10 days after when protests took place leaning positive in our direction is a great thing.  Prop 8 was in the news and on talk shows all over the channels on TV.

 Box Turtle Bulletin has an article Minority Groups Fear Prop 8's Implications  This is eye opening stuff when you put a minority's rights up to a popular vote.

 Between that LGBT rights have been discussed honestly, we have made in roads. The lies of the "Yes on Hate" are being discovered to be just what they are, LIES.

 I still believe we need to have a Meet our Families Day but something similiar did take place over the Thanksgiving Holiday weekend.  I found this over at The Peter's place, Happy 'Thanksgiving Gay' from the Homosexual Task Force So we are getting more out in public, and it is driving the Fundies more nutty.  Marriage is about makin' babies only,

Challenge to homosexual activists: prove 'gay marriages' are 'equal' to the real deal.

 ALL GAY, ALL THE TIME: National Gay and Lesbian Task Force leader Rea Carey urged fellow homosexuals to promote "gay marriage" to family and friends over the Thanksgiving holiday. Carey is wrong: homosexual unions are NOT equal to real marriage - as proven by the fact that homosexual couples cannot produce children without help from heterosexuality.

 Marriage must not be about LOVE.  Marriage must not be about COMMITMENT. Marriage must not be about all that goes with it.  But if it is only about makin' babies, why the hell do they spend so much time, money and effort to keep Gays and Lesbians from Marrying?



If I make sense? it was quite by accident.


Good lord, these people are nutz.
Okay, so we're not equal because no matter how often or at what time of the month we do the nasty, neither of us gets pregnant? I'm not going to stop trying.

So does that same logic apply to the many infertile straight couples I know through adoption?

And finally--oh how I wish this could be the last word on the topic--does it follow from that logic that those of us who have kids get an exemption to our inferiority? Are we the Hetero-Sex Clean-Up Team, eligible for an upgrade on the basis that we're raising the results of someone's reproduction?

What a bunch of maroons, in the inimitable words of Bugs Bunny.

But wait, there's more!


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51%
That number looks awful.  Lower than support for relationship recognition?  Statistically equivalent to support for marriage equality?

It looks down significantly from previous years.  Is that because the issue hasn't been getting much attention lately?  (In the mainstream, I mean, relative to the marriage fight.)

"Our Liberties We Prize and Our Rights We Will Maintain" -- Iowa state motto


It's a battle over framing
All it proves is, how people respond to these questions depends entirely on how they're framed.  A "homosexual advocacy group" might ask straight-out how people feel about two men or two women getting marriage rights, or GLBTs being protected at their jobs, or what have you.  But when the Traditional Family Council asks about the same issues, they phrase it as "Are you in favor of protecting marriage?" or "Do you want to keep your first-grader from learning about anal sex?"

The success of Prop. 8 had nothing to do with the people of California being overwhelmingly bigoted, homophobic, or hateful - it had everything to do with the Yes on H8ers successfully framing the question as a vague, abstract "Do you want to protect the traditional definition of marriage?" instead of "Here are these happy couples - do you want to tell them they have no rights as a couple any more?"

I can't tell you how many "nice" people voted for Prop. 8, not out of hatred or animosity toward GLBTs in general, but because they were only thinking of us in the abstract.  "Protecting marriage" seems like a good idea, right?  I'm in favor of marriage.  "Promoting liberty and freedom around the world" sounds great, too - "let's go kill a bunch of Iraqis and grab their oil" sounds less palatable.

As Harvey Milk said, we lose when people are able to think of gays as "someone over there," someone they don't know, someone they're able to think about only vaguely, in the abstract.  When we make ourselves visible, as real people affected by these policies - as their brothers and sisters, their neighbors and families - then people are able to see the real impact of "protecting the traditional definition of marriage."


Seems like they are on the same page

[...]The voters in California, Florida and Arkansas clearly aren't on the same page as most Americans when it comes to extending rights to gay couples. [...]

* U.S. adults are now about evenly divided on whether they support allowing gay and lesbian couples to legally marry (47% favor to 49% oppose).

Seems pretty close to the California result.



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